[gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report #39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.kathywillsfamily.com + + + + Summit Group Web Site: http://www.tsginfo.com/index.php?rc=VW4374 + + -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Is it an issue with Gentoo or KDE. Reading the bug it appears KDE didn't want to include support in their builds. That was last year so maybe it works now? On Saturday 15 November 2003 15:44, you wrote: I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report #39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine. Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with alsa support disabled. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.kathywillsfamily.com + + + + Summit Group Web Site: http://www.tsginfo.com/index.php?rc=VW4374 + + -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
Dave Naylor wrote: URL: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml This was the guide that I used to set alsa up. So I knew about this guide and have it printed out. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.kathywillsfamily.com + + + + Summit Group Web Site: http://www.tsginfo.com/index.php?rc=VW4374 + + -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
I'm not a KDE user anymore so I've exhausted all my resources. On Saturday 15 November 2003 16:08, you wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Is it an issue with Gentoo or KDE. Reading the bug it appears KDE didn't want to include support in their builds. That was last year so maybe it works now? On Saturday 15 November 2003 15:44, you wrote: I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report #39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine. Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with alsa support disabled. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 November 2003 21:43, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign). Basically this does not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags. However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation. Did you merge alsa-oss? If so and if all your modules load then you can use the oss part of alsa. The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the start. From what I see it's a KDE problem. Maybe you can bug them as to why it's not fixed - or maybe it is in the betas? Aye, the comment in the ebuild when the alsa configure flags are commented out says: # alsa 0.9 not supported IIRC the problem is with kmidi, and the fact it's not being maintained. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39574 Perhaps slackware uses the old, depreciated alsa 0.5. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tp7wInuLMrk7bIwRAnAQAJ9yQNUUhk3iz/ucPtpzrGsQ22O4LACgqF84 jsObnJf0gG4SUKMMR3iWwCQ= =TbOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign). Basically this does not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags. However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation. Did you merge alsa-oss? If so and if all your modules load then you can use the oss part of alsa. The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the start. From what I see it's a KDE problem. Maybe you can bug them as to why it's not fixed - or maybe it is in the betas? I followed the gentoo alsa guide when I set up alsa. I have emerged everything alsa related except for the alsamixergui and alsa player. Alsa itself is working. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.kathywillsfamily.com + + + + Summit Group Web Site: http://www.tsginfo.com/index.php?rc=VW4374 + + -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
Why not merge the multimedia and see what happens. In the system I have that has KDE 2.2.x it allows you to let it autodetect the sound service or you can select oss and something else. On Saturday 15 November 2003 16:47, you wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign). Basically this does not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags. However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation. Did you merge alsa-oss? If so and if all your modules load then you can use the oss part of alsa. The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the start. From what I see it's a KDE problem. Maybe you can bug them as to why it's not fixed - or maybe it is in the betas? I followed the gentoo alsa guide when I set up alsa. I have emerged everything alsa related except for the alsamixergui and alsa player. Alsa itself is working. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Why not merge the multimedia and see what happens. In the system I have that has KDE 2.2.x it allows you to let it autodetect the sound service or you can select oss and something else. It has been merged that is how I found out that it disables alsa via a post-install message. Doing further research the bug #39574 it mentions is not a bug number with bugs.gentoo.org but is a bug number with bugs.kde.org. It seems the problem is with kmidi and kmidi has been removed from the 3.2 version of kde so maybe when 3.2 becomes considered stable this will be resolved. -- Kathy Wills + + Genealogy Web Site: http://www.kathywillsfamily.com + + + + Summit Group Web Site: http://www.tsginfo.com/index.php?rc=VW4374 + + -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
On Saturday 15 November 2003 23:22, Kathy Wills wrote: It has been merged that is how I found out that it disables alsa via a post-install message. Doing further research the bug #39574 it mentions is not a bug number with bugs.gentoo.org but is a bug number with bugs.kde.org. It seems the problem is with kmidi and kmidi has been removed from the 3.2 version of kde so maybe when 3.2 becomes considered stable this will be resolved. I found both bugs with 'RESOLVED' status, so maybe the ebuild can be modified to re-enable alsa (only 2-3 # to remove), but I got a small prob with kde compiles ATM, so i can't test it. Azhdeen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:08, Kathy Wills wrote: Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with alsa support disabled. Here's a patch to kdemultimedia-3.1.4-r1.ebuild that enables alsa support. Don't know if it will compile or not. Might still get stuck on kmidi. I haven't tested it as I'm running kde3.2 and aren't using alsa anyway due to terrible sound quality. Let us how it goes if you decide to use it. # patch kdemm-alsa.diff can't find file to patch at input line 1 Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option? File to patch: /path/to/kdemultimedia-3.1.4-r1.ebuild Jason 22c22,23 =media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta10 --- =media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta10 alsa? ( =media-libs/alsa-lib ) 24d24 # alsa? ( =media-libs/alsa-lib-0.5.9 ) 46c46 #use alsa myconf=$myconf --with-alsa --with-arts-alsa myaudio=$myaudio,alsa || myconf=$myconf --without-alsa --disable-alsa --- use alsa myconf=$myconf --with-alsa --with-arts-alsa myaudio=$myaudio,alsa || myconf=$myconf --without-alsa --disable-alsa 72,79d71 pkg_postinst() { if [ -n `use alsa` ]; then einfo WARNING: alsa support has been removed becuase of a bug in kdemm sources. For further information see bug #2324 on bugs.gentoo.org and bug #39574 on bugs.kde.org. Meanwhile, you can use the alsa oss emulation. fi } -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia
On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:07, Kathy Wills wrote: Jason Stubbs wrote: Don't know if it will compile or not. Might still get stuck on kmidi. I haven't tested it as I'm running kde3.2 and aren't using alsa anyway due to terrible sound quality. Let us how it goes if you decide to use it. Jason I decided to wait until KDE 3.2 is considered stable and just go ahead with 3.1.4 until then. Thanks anyway. Hmmm... Just checked out kdemultimedia-3.2.0-beta1.ebuild. The commented depend on alsa-lib has been completely removed, yet the alsa use flag is checked and the configure parameters updated accordingly. i.e. if this is the first emerged package to use alsa, it will die. I have the alsa use flag set and already had alsa-lib installed, however, and the build went fine and is showing ALSA in the control panel so I guess all is well. The ebuild bug should be fixed before it is unmasked. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list