[gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Kathy Wills
I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware 
for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in 
kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report 
#39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde 
and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it 
working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with 
Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Kathy Wills
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

Is it an issue with Gentoo or KDE.  Reading the bug it appears KDE didn't 
want to include support in their builds.   That was last year so maybe it 
works now?

On Saturday 15 November 2003 15:44, you wrote:
 

I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware
for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in
kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report
#39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde
and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it
working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with
Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine.
   

Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets 
disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to 
gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will 
build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a 
message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build 
or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I 
just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with 
alsa support disabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Kathy Wills
Dave Naylor wrote:

URL: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml 


This was the guide that I used to set alsa up. So I knew about this 
guide and have it printed out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I'm not a KDE user anymore so I've exhausted all my resources.  
On Saturday 15 November 2003 16:08, you wrote:
 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 Is it an issue with Gentoo or KDE.  Reading the bug it appears KDE didn't
 want to include support in their builds.   That was last year so maybe it
 works now?
 
 On Saturday 15 November 2003 15:44, you wrote:
 I just switched to gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using Slackware
 for several months. The explanation for not including alsa support in
 kdemultimedia with gentoo is bug reports #2324 and #39574. Bug report
 #39574 does not even exist. Alsa was working just fine for me with kde
 and Slackware. My question is why can they Slackware developers get it
 working when there are all sorts of problems getting it working with
 Gentoo? I have a soundblaster live card and everything works just fine.

 Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets
 disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to
 gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will
 build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a
 message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build
 or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I
 just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with
 alsa support disabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 15 November 2003 21:43, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below
 alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign).  Basically this does
 not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags.
 However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation.  Did
 you merge alsa-oss?  If so and if all your modules load then you can use
 the oss part of alsa.  The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the start. 
 From what I see it's a KDE problem.  Maybe you can bug them as to why it's
 not fixed - or maybe it is in the betas?

Aye, the comment in the ebuild when the alsa configure flags are commented out 
says:
# alsa 0.9 not supported

IIRC the problem is with kmidi, and the fact it's not being maintained.
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39574

Perhaps slackware uses the old, depreciated alsa 0.5.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Kathy Wills
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below 
alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign).  Basically this does 
not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags.  
However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation.  Did you 
merge alsa-oss?  If so and if all your modules load then you can use the oss 
part of alsa.  The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the start.  From what 
I see it's a KDE problem.  Maybe you can bug them as to why it's not fixed - 
or maybe it is in the betas?

 

I followed the gentoo alsa guide when I set up alsa. I have emerged 
everything alsa related except for the alsamixergui and  alsa player. 
Alsa itself is working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Why not merge the multimedia and see what happens.  In the system I have that 
has KDE 2.2.x it allows you to let it autodetect the sound service or you can 
select oss and something else.   

On Saturday 15 November 2003 16:47, you wrote:
 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I'm not a KDE user anymore but looking at the ebuild there is a line below
 alsa not supported that is commented out (the # sign).  Basically this
  does not allow alsa support to be built in no matter what your use flags.
  However, the comment at the end indicates you can use oss emulation.  Did
  you merge alsa-oss?  If so and if all your modules load then you can use
  the oss part of alsa.  The ebuild sets myaudio to enable oss at the
  start.  From what I see it's a KDE problem.  Maybe you can bug them as to
  why it's not fixed - or maybe it is in the betas?

 I followed the gentoo alsa guide when I set up alsa. I have emerged
 everything alsa related except for the alsamixergui and  alsa player.
 Alsa itself is working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Kathy Wills
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

Why not merge the multimedia and see what happens.  In the system I have that 
has KDE 2.2.x it allows you to let it autodetect the sound service or you can 
select oss and something else.   
 

It has been merged that is how I found out that it disables alsa via a post-install message. Doing further research the bug #39574 it mentions is not a bug number with bugs.gentoo.org but is a bug number with bugs.kde.org. It seems the problem is with kmidi and kmidi has been removed from the 3.2 version of kde so maybe when 3.2 becomes considered stable this will be resolved.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Azhdeen
On Saturday 15 November 2003 23:22, Kathy Wills wrote:
 It has been merged that is how I found out that it disables alsa via a
 post-install message. Doing further research the bug #39574 it mentions is
 not a bug number with bugs.gentoo.org but is a bug number with
 bugs.kde.org. It seems the problem is with kmidi and kmidi has been removed
 from the 3.2 version of kde so maybe when 3.2 becomes considered stable
 this will be resolved.

I found both bugs with 'RESOLVED' status, so maybe the ebuild can be modified 
to re-enable alsa (only 2-3 # to remove), but I got a small prob with kde 
compiles ATM, so i can't test it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 16 November 2003 06:08, Kathy Wills wrote:
 Yes, I noticed that the bug reports were old. But, still alsa gets
 disabled in the ebuild for kdemultimedia-3.1.4r1. Since I'm so new to
 gentoo, I'm not sure just how to change the ebuild to see if it will
 build alsa support into kdemultimedia. What I did try, resulted in a
 message that there were no unmasked versions of kdemultimedia to build
 or something to that affect. I didn't write the error message down. I
 just changed it back to the default ebuild and it built just fine with
 alsa support disabled.

Here's a patch to kdemultimedia-3.1.4-r1.ebuild that enables alsa support. 
Don't know if it will compile or not. Might still get stuck on kmidi. I 
haven't tested it as I'm running kde3.2 and aren't using alsa anyway due to 
terrible sound quality. Let us how it goes if you decide to use it.

# patch  kdemm-alsa.diff
can't find file to patch at input line 1
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
File to patch: /path/to/kdemultimedia-3.1.4-r1.ebuild

Jason
22c22,23
 	=media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta10
---
 	=media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta10
 	alsa? ( =media-libs/alsa-lib )
24d24
 #	alsa? ( =media-libs/alsa-lib-0.5.9 )
46c46
 #use alsa	 myconf=$myconf --with-alsa --with-arts-alsa  myaudio=$myaudio,alsa || myconf=$myconf --without-alsa --disable-alsa
---
 use alsa	 myconf=$myconf --with-alsa --with-arts-alsa  myaudio=$myaudio,alsa || myconf=$myconf --without-alsa --disable-alsa
72,79d71
 
 pkg_postinst() {
 	if [ -n `use alsa` ]; then
 	einfo WARNING: alsa support has been removed becuase of a bug in kdemm sources.
 For further information see bug #2324 on bugs.gentoo.org and bug #39574 on bugs.kde.org.
 Meanwhile, you can use the alsa oss emulation.
 	fi
 }

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Kdemultimedia

2003-11-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:07, Kathy Wills wrote:
 Jason Stubbs wrote:
 Don't know if it will compile or not. Might still get stuck on kmidi. I
 haven't tested it as I'm running kde3.2 and aren't using alsa anyway due
  to terrible sound quality. Let us how it goes if you decide to use it.
 
 Jason

 I decided to wait until KDE 3.2 is considered stable and just go ahead
 with 3.1.4 until then. Thanks anyway.

Hmmm... Just checked out kdemultimedia-3.2.0-beta1.ebuild. The commented 
depend on alsa-lib has been completely removed, yet the alsa use flag is 
checked and the configure parameters updated accordingly. i.e. if this is the 
first emerged package to use alsa, it will die.

I have the alsa use flag set and already had alsa-lib installed, however, and 
the build went fine and is showing ALSA in the control panel so I guess all 
is well. The ebuild bug should be fixed before it is unmasked.

Jason

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