[gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
Got a dual athlon machine with a SMP kernel and have MAKEOPTS=-j 3 in my
make.conf

when I emerge something and the source is compiling I am only ever using
100% of a single CPU while the other sits idle. If I have the ksim CPU usage
meters running while its cooking you can watch the load being switched from
one to the other evertime gcc starts with a fresh file.

Any ideas on what I should be doing to get it using both CPU's 100% at the
same time?

Rick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
Got a dual athlon machine with a SMP kernel and have MAKEOPTS=-j 3 in my
make.conf
Get rid of the space. Make is MAKEOPTS=-j3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
 Got a dual athlon machine with a SMP kernel and have MAKEOPTS=-j 3
 in my make.conf

 Get rid of the space. Make is MAKEOPTS=-j3

Thats how I had it before I noticed it wasnt using both CPU's at the same
time, so I put a space in (to no effect)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Rick [Kitty5] wrote:

Got a dual athlon machine with a SMP kernel and have MAKEOPTS=-j 3
in my make.conf
Get rid of the space. Make is MAKEOPTS=-j3


Thats how I had it before I noticed it wasnt using both CPU's at the same
time, so I put a space in (to no effect)
Try kicking it up a bit more. Try MAKEOPTS=-j6. It can't hurt anything.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Joe Stone
Hi !

I have a dual celeron and it works. 
Some packages will only compile on one CPU (then the -j3 is replaced by -j1 in 
the ebuild MAKEOPTS=${MAKEOPTS} -j1) 
I remember some kde-packages which do this: arts, kdelibs :-( and so on

Do you have your 1-CPU problem with every package?
I don't know ksim, but the programm top uses a cumulative mode. 
You have to press 1 to get each CPU seperate.

Some other questions only for my interest:
Which board do you use? Have you XP or MP?

joe


On Wednesday 24 September 2003 19:15, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
 Got a dual athlon machine with a SMP kernel and have MAKEOPTS=-j 3 in my
 make.conf

 when I emerge something and the source is compiling I am only ever using
 100% of a single CPU while the other sits idle. If I have the ksim CPU
 usage meters running while its cooking you can watch the load being
 switched from one to the other evertime gcc starts with a fresh file.

 Any ideas on what I should be doing to get it using both CPU's 100% at the
 same time?

 Rick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
Joe Stone wrote:
 I have a dual celeron and it works.
 Some packages will only compile on one CPU (then the -j3 is replaced
 by -j1 in the ebuild MAKEOPTS=${MAKEOPTS} -j1)
 I remember some kde-packages which do this: arts, kdelibs :-( and so
 on

well i only noticed it last night while installing some kde stuff so that
might be it, will have a play and see

 Some other questions only for my interest:
 Which board do you use? Have you XP or MP?

Gigabyte 7DPXDW
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Server/Products/Products_GA-7DPXDW-P.htm

With 2x athlon 2200+ MP and 1GB of ECC ram. Water-cooled with 1/2 tubing,
danger den waterblocks and a whopping ehiem pump - fan noise was driving me
mad :)

Thought about modding some XP's but didn't feel brave enough, metallic paint
would make it tricky to RMA them should I need to.

Very happy with it actually, makes for a kicking workstation. Cannot see me
going back to a single CPU machine ever again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 20:39, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
 Joe Stone wrote:
  I have a dual celeron and it works.
  Some packages will only compile on one CPU (then the -j3 is replaced
  by -j1 in the ebuild MAKEOPTS=${MAKEOPTS} -j1)
  I remember some kde-packages which do this: arts, kdelibs :-( and so
  on

 well i only noticed it last night while installing some kde stuff so that
 might be it, will have a play and see

  Some other questions only for my interest:
  Which board do you use? Have you XP or MP?

 Gigabyte 7DPXDW
 http://tw.giga-byte.com/Server/Products/Products_GA-7DPXDW-P.htm

 With 2x athlon 2200+ MP and 1GB of ECC ram. Water-cooled with 1/2 tubing,
 danger den waterblocks and a whopping ehiem pump - fan noise was driving me
 mad :)

 Thought about modding some XP's but didn't feel brave enough, metallic
 paint would make it tricky to RMA them should I need to.

 Very happy with it actually, makes for a kicking workstation. Cannot see me
 going back to a single CPU machine ever again.



I second that.  I have a pair of 2400 MP's (also too scared for metalic 
paint).  I also have fans due to the expense of liquid cooling - my tower 
hovers about 2 inches off the ground :-)

I have noticed that many compiles override the MAKEOPTS, which I guess is fair 
enough if the authors believe that it wont compile using multiple jobs.  My 
understand is:

  Two files:
a.cpp   - creates shared object a.so
b.cpp   - creates executable b, but requires a.so to link

Therefore if the two jobs of compiling a.cpp and b.cpp start simultaneously, 
linking of b.cpp will fail.
My specifics will probably be a little off there, but I believe it is the 
correct jist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Dan McCombs
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 16:13, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 September 2003 20:39, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
  Thought about modding some XP's but didn't feel brave enough, metallic
  paint would make it tricky to RMA them should I need to.
 
  Very happy with it actually, makes for a kicking workstation. Cannot see me
  going back to a single CPU machine ever again.

 I second that.  I have a pair of 2400 MP's (also too scared for metalic 
 paint).  I also have fans due to the expense of liquid cooling - my tower 
 hovers about 2 inches off the ground :-)

I have dual 1700 XP's with the metallic paint mod on a tyan mpx
motherboard, works like a charm :) -Dan



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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Scharf Yuval
What is metallic paint mod?

Yuval Scharf


On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dan McCombs wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 16:13, Tom Wesley wrote:
  On Wednesday 24 September 2003 20:39, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
   Thought about modding some XP's but didn't feel brave enough, metallic
   paint would make it tricky to RMA them should I need to.
  
  Very happy with it actually, makes for a kicking workstation. Cannot see me
   going back to a single CPU machine ever again.

  I second that.I have a pair of 2400 MP's (also too scared for metalic
  paint).I also have fans due to the expense of liquid cooling - my tower
  hovers about 2 inches off the ground :-)

 I have dual 1700 XP's with the metallic paint mod on a tyan mpx
 motherboard, works like a charm :) -Dan



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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling on SMP machine?

2003-09-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:55:11 +0300 (IDT) Scharf Yuval
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| What is metallic paint mod?

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/articles.hwz?cid=2aid=393page=1

A great way to trash two CPUs in an attempt to save small amounts of
money. But if you don't want stability or a warranty...

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