Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-31 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 30 August 2003 10:51 pm, Ernie Schroder wrote:

>
> Thanks much, that seems to have done the trick! the script is
> building a file list now. Providing the backup is successful, I will
> post it to the list for archive purposes.

the backup was successful. here is my script, I hope others can take 
advantage of it.

It performs a backup via rsync and ssh from the local machine to a 
dedicated disk on a remote machine.
You will need to establish passwordless ssh between the root accounts of 
both machines in order for it to run unattended as in a cron job.
see: http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/keygen.html for a good howto.

the script:
#==
#! /bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
###
# Backup Script
###

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/backup   #path to backup disk
EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude#list of files and 
#directories to be excluded

echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
sudo mount /boot -o ro
echo
echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] <

Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-31 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 30 August 2003 10:28 pm, Jussi Sirpoma wrote:
> On 31.8.2003 5:09 Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > Jussi,
> > Thanks for your help. It seems to be working, except for the rsync
> > itself.
> > Probably due to my own stupidity, the host name of the remote
> > machine is Ernie.schroder.com. This may be my problem. when I try
> > to run the script, I get:
>
> 
>
> >Performing backup...
> >
> > Ernie.schroder.com: Connection refused
> > rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes read so far)
> > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at
> > io.c(165)
>
> 
>
> > Is this a syntax error or due to my hostname?
> > Suggestions?
>
> I havn't used rsync that much but check out rsyn's man page and
> especially the --rsh parameter. You should propably add someting like
> --rsh="ssh" to the rsync command.
>
> Jussi Sirpoma
>
>
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Thanks much, that seems to have done the trick! the script is building a 
file list now. Providing the backup is successful, I will post it to 
the list for archive purposes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-31 Thread Jussi Sirpoma
On 31.8.2003 5:09 Ernie Schroder wrote:

Jussi,
Thanks for your help. It seems to be working, except for the rsync 
itself.
	Probably due to my own stupidity, the host name of the remote machine 
is Ernie.schroder.com. This may be my problem. when I try to run the 
script, I get:


   Performing backup...

Ernie.schroder.com: Connection refused
rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes read so far)
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(165)

Is this a syntax error or due to my hostname?
Suggestions?
I havn't used rsync that much but check out rsyn's man page and 
especially the --rsh parameter. You should propably add someting like 
--rsh="ssh" to the rsync command.

Jussi Sirpoma

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-31 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 30 August 2003 09:02 pm, Jussi Sirpoma wrote:
> On 31.8.2003 2:38 Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > sleep 5
> > mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup
> > exit
>
> You should change this to:
>
> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] < sleep 5
> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup
> END
>
> > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > sleep 5
> > umount /mnt/backup
> >
> > echo
> > echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> > /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk
> > exit
>
> And this similarly to:
>
> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] < sleep 5
> umount /mnt/backup
>
> echo
> echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk
> END
>
> Regards,
> Jussi Sirpoma
>
>
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Jussi,
Thanks for your help. It seems to be working, except for the rsync 
itself.
Probably due to my own stupidity, the host name of the remote machine 
is Ernie.schroder.com. This may be my problem. when I try to run the 
script, I get:

# my-rsync
   Mounting boot partition...

   Mounting backup disk...
Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.

   Performing backup...

Ernie.schroder.com: Connection refused
rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes read so far)
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(165)

   Unmounting boot and backup partitions...
Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.

   Spinning down backup disk...

/dev/hdb:
 issuing standby command

Is this a syntax error or due to my hostname?
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-31 Thread Jussi Sirpoma
On 31.8.2003 2:38 Ernie Schroder wrote:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sleep 5
mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup
exit
You should change this to:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sleep 5
umount /mnt/backup
echo
echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk
exit
And this similarly to:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
echo
echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk
END
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-30 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 29 August 2003 02:09 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Friday 29 Aug 2003 18:08, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > On Friday 29 August 2003 06:21 am, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > > I obviously didn't make myself clear enough.
>
> 
>
> > Peter,
> > Your script looks like it might do the trick for me. I do have a
> > couple of questions though. How would I adapt it for a remote
> > backup location? /mnt/backup is a normally unmounted disk on my
> > secondary Gentoo box. I have configured passwordless ssh between
> > USER with sudo privledges on the machine to be backed up, to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way to ssh in to the remote box, mount
> > /mnt/backup and then do the rsync eludes me. I wonder if you might
> > steer me in the right direction.
>
> Sounds like a good idea Ernie.  I'm afraid I've never done anything
> like that though, so I can't offer any advice.  I suppose you could
> use NFS, with an fstab entry like:
> remotebox:/mnt/backup  /mnt/remote/mnt/backup nfs
> user,noauto,rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nolock 0 0
> (all one line)
> ...and an entry in the remote box's /etc/exports like:
> /mnt/backup
> 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(sync,insecure,no_root_squash,rw)
>
> Then you wouldn't need to use ssh.  (man exports(5))
>
> > The second question is about the rsync command in your script.
> > What does the --delete option do? Does it delete old backups?
> > Forgive me for being a bit dense here, but I'm rather new at
> > scripting.
>
> The script makes a mirror of your system.  If you delete any files,
> the rsync "--delete" flag deletes those files on the backup next time
> it's run; otherwise the backup would continually grow (man rsync). 
> Downside of this is that you only have the opportunity to recover
> accidentally deleted files (one of the main reasons for having a
> backup, after all) up to the next backup run.  This isn't a problem
> for me because I have another backup strategy using tar.  I suppose
> you could alter the script so that it only does the delete thing once
> a week, say.
>
> if it's Sunday; then
>   rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
>$BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> else
>   rsync --progress -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
>$BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> fi
>
> Pter

I may just have to go that rout but I did try my hand at scripting a 
remote rsync using Peter's script as a model. 
The script should mount the local /boot and then ssh into 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mount the backup disk after waiting long enough to open 
the connection.  After exiting the ssh session, it should perform the 
backup and delete any files that have been deleted from the local box. 
It excludes files listed in /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude. After 
completing the backup, it should unmount /boot, ssh back into 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and unmount /mnt/backup, spin the disk down  and exit ssh
I have made it executable and tried it out. It gets as far as 
mounting /boot and ssh'ing into [EMAIL PROTECTED] where it stops. Would 
someone with some scripting knowledge take a look at it and see if you 
can figure out why it aint working?

#==
#! /bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
###
# Backup Script
###

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/backup
EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude

echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
sudo mount /boot -o ro
echo
echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sleep 5
mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup
exit

sleep 4
echo
echo "   Performing backup..."
echo
rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
$BACKUP_TO/rsync/

echo
echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."

/bin/umount -l /boot
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sleep 5
umount /mnt/backup

echo
echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdb# spin down disk
exit

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 18:08, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> On Friday 29 August 2003 06:21 am, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > I obviously didn't make myself clear enough.

> Peter,
>   Your script looks like it might do the trick for me. I do have a
> couple of questions though. How would I adapt it for a remote backup
> location? /mnt/backup is a normally unmounted disk on my secondary
> Gentoo box. I have configured passwordless ssh between USER with sudo
> privledges on the machine to be backed up, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way
> to ssh in to the remote box, mount /mnt/backup and then do the rsync
> eludes me. I wonder if you might steer me in the right direction.

Sounds like a good idea Ernie.  I'm afraid I've never done anything like 
that though, so I can't offer any advice.  I suppose you could use NFS, 
with an fstab entry like:
remotebox:/mnt/backup  /mnt/remote/mnt/backup nfs 
user,noauto,rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,nolock 0 0
(all one line)
...and an entry in the remote box's /etc/exports like:
/mnt/backup 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(sync,insecure,no_root_squash,rw)

Then you wouldn't need to use ssh.  (man exports(5))


>   The second question is about the rsync command in your script. What
> does the --delete option do? Does it delete old backups? Forgive me
> for being a bit dense here, but I'm rather new at scripting.

The script makes a mirror of your system.  If you delete any files, the 
rsync "--delete" flag deletes those files on the backup next time it's 
run; otherwise the backup would continually grow (man rsync).  Downside 
of this is that you only have the opportunity to recover accidentally 
deleted files (one of the main reasons for having a backup, after all) 
up to the next backup run.  This isn't a problem for me because I have 
another backup strategy using tar.  I suppose you could alter the 
script so that it only does the delete thing once a week, say.

if it's Sunday; then
  rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
   $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
else
  rsync --progress -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
   $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
fi

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Friday 29 August 2003 06:21 am, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I obviously didn't make myself clear enough.
>
> I have one disk dedicated to backups.
>
> This is the backup script my-rsync, which I put in /usr/local/bin:
> #
>== #! /bin/bash
> # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> ###
> # Backup Script
> ###
>
> BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
>
> echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> mount /boot -o ro
> echo
> echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> mount $BACKUP_TO
> sleep 4
> echo
> echo "   Performing backup..."
> echo
> rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
>   $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
>
> echo
> echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
>
> /bin/umount -l /boot
> /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
>
> echo
> echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc# spin down disk
> #
>==
>
> As root, I did:
> chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> ...to make the script executable
>
> In the script you'll see "EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude". 
> This means that you list all the files you want to exclude from the
> backup in a file you create (I called mine rsync-exclude and put it
> in /usr/local/bin).  See `man rsync` for more information.
>
> My /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude looks like this:
> #
>== - /tmp/
> - /var/lib/init.d/
> - /mnt/backup/
> - /mnt/cdrom/
> - /mnt/floppy/
> - /proc/
> - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> - /root/.ccache/
> - /home/peter/.ccache/
> #
>==
>
> As Andrew Farmer suggested, you can use /etc/cron.daily to have it
> run automatically.  Before you do so, run it manually to make sure it
> works for you, altering the mountpoint ($BACKUP_TO) and /dev/hdc in
> the "spin down disk" part to suit your installation.  My /etc/fstab
> entry for $BACKUP_TO reads:
> /dev/hdc1 /mnt/backup ext3 noauto,noatime,users 0 0
> ...so, like /boot, it's only mounted when needed.
>
> When you are ready to add the backup script to cron.daily, become
> root and do:
> cp /usr/local/bin/my-rsync /etc/cron.daily/
>
> Hope this helps you.
>
> Peter


Peter,
Your script looks like it might do the trick for me. I do have a couple 
of questions though. How would I adapt it for a remote backup location? 
/mnt/backup is a normally unmounted disk on my secondary Gentoo box. I 
have configured passwordless ssh between USER with sudo privledges on 
the machine to be backed up, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way to ssh in to 
the remote box, mount /mnt/backup and then do the rsync eludes me. I 
wonder if you might steer me in the right direction.
The second question is about the rsync command in your script. What 
does the --delete option do? Does it delete old backups? Forgive me for 
being a bit dense here, but I'm rather new at scripting.
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Ruskin
Hi Stephen,

I obviously didn't make myself clear enough.

I have one disk dedicated to backups.

This is the backup script my-rsync, which I put in /usr/local/bin:
#==
#! /bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
###
# Backup Script
###

BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude

echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
mount /boot -o ro
echo
echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
mount $BACKUP_TO
sleep 4
echo
echo "   Performing backup..."
echo
rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / \
$BACKUP_TO/rsync/

echo
echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."

/bin/umount -l /boot
/bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO

echo
echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc# spin down disk
#==

As root, I did:
chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
...to make the script executable

In the script you'll see "EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude".  This 
means that you list all the files you want to exclude from the backup 
in a file you create (I called mine rsync-exclude and put it in 
/usr/local/bin).  See `man rsync` for more information.

My /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude looks like this:
#==
- /tmp/
- /var/lib/init.d/
- /mnt/backup/
- /mnt/cdrom/
- /mnt/floppy/
- /proc/
- /usr/portage/distfiles/
- /root/.ccache/
- /home/peter/.ccache/
#==

As Andrew Farmer suggested, you can use /etc/cron.daily to have it run 
automatically.  Before you do so, run it manually to make sure it works 
for you, altering the mountpoint ($BACKUP_TO) and /dev/hdc in the "spin 
down disk" part to suit your installation.  My /etc/fstab entry for 
$BACKUP_TO reads:
/dev/hdc1 /mnt/backup ext3 noauto,noatime,users 0 0
...so, like /boot, it's only mounted when needed.

When you are ready to add the backup script to cron.daily, become root 
and do:
cp /usr/local/bin/my-rsync /etc/cron.daily/

Hope this helps you.

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Van Vlaenderen

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Stephen Liu wrote:

> Date: 29 Aug 2003 11:57:47 +0800
> From: Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up
> 
> Hi Andrew
> 
> On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 11:35, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> - snip -
> > > 
> > > $ locate rsync-exclude
> > > could not find this file
> > 
> > Create this file yourself and populate it.
> 
> What will be the standard content of
> 
> "rsync-exclude"
> 
> other than adding following
> 
> MAILTO=root
> # do rsync backup nightly
> 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> 
> What shall I change "my-rsync" to?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> B.R.
> Stephen
> 
I guess "my-rsync" is just the backupscript you put in /usr/local/bin/
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Andrew

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 11:35, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
- snip -
> > 
> > $ locate rsync-exclude
> > could not find this file
> 
> Create this file yourself and populate it.

What will be the standard content of

"rsync-exclude"

other than adding following

MAILTO=root
# do rsync backup nightly
0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync

What shall I change "my-rsync" to?

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
Stephen



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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your advice.

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 10:21, Andrew Farmer wrote:
> > 
> > $ cat /etc/crontab
> > SHELL=/bin/bash
> > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> > MAILTO=root
> > HOME=/
> > 
> > # run-parts
> > 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> > 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> > 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
> > 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
> >  
> > Shall I retain the above and add
> > 
> > MAILTO=
> > # do rsync backup nightly
> > 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > 
> No. Use /etc/cron.daily.
> 
> (Look in the directory; any files set +x will be run daily. Root's
> crontab should not be modified, really.)

# ls /etc/cron.daily/
00-logwatch  logrotaterpm   tetex.cron
0anacron makewhatis.cron  slocate.cron  tmpwatch

# cat /etc/cron.daily/0anacron
#!/bin/sh
#
# anacron's cron script
#
# This script updates anacron time stamps. It is called through
run-parts
# either by anacron itself or by cron.
#
# The script is called "0anacron" to assure that it will be executed
# _before_ all other scripts.

anacron -u cron.daily


I could not discover "any files set +x"

Thanks

B.Regards
Stephen


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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Stephen Liu wrote:
Hi Pupeno,

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 10:25, Pupeno wrote:


Remember to have /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude with the list of 
files/directories to exclude.


$ ls /usr/local/bin/
cdrwtool  mkudffs   scalc  simpress  spadmin  tkfax
installwatch  pktsetup  sdraw  smath swriter  tkscan
scalc, simpress, sdraw, smath are symbolic links.  "rsync-exclude" is
not there
$ which rsync
/usr/bin/rsync
$ locate rsync-exclude
could not find this file
Create this file yourself and populate it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Pupeno,

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 10:25, Pupeno wrote:

> Remember to have /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude with the list of 
> files/directories to exclude.

$ ls /usr/local/bin/
cdrwtool  mkudffs   scalc  simpress  spadmin  tkfax
installwatch  pktsetup  sdraw  smath swriter  tkscan

scalc, simpress, sdraw, smath are symbolic links.  "rsync-exclude" is
not there

$ which rsync
/usr/bin/rsync

$ locate rsync-exclude
could not find this file

B.Regards
Stephen



> El Jueves Agosto 28 2003 22:45, Stephen Liu escribió:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Thanks for your advice.
> >
> > $ cat /etc/crontab
> > SHELL=/bin/bash
> > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> > MAILTO=root
> > HOME=/
> >
> > # run-parts
> > 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> > 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> > 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
> > 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
> >
> >
> > Shall I retain the above and add
> >
> > MAILTO=
> > # do rsync backup nightly
> > 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> >
> > Kindly advise.  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > B.R.
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 09:03, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > On Friday 29 Aug 2003 01:53, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > > > Hi Peter,
> > > >
> > > > Could you please advise how to use your script to start backup.  Also
> > > > can backup start automatically at scheduled time?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > B.Regards
> > > > Stephen Liu
> > >
> > > # chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > > ...then edit root's crontab:
> > > # crontab -e
> > > and add these lines:
> > >
> > > MAILTO=
> > > # do rsync backup nightly
> > > 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > >
> > > then it will run at 1 o'clock every morning
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 06:26, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > > > > > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > > > > > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an
> > > > > > 80 GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what
> > > > > > method of backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast
> > > > > > to recover being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ?
> > > > > > Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > #==
> > > > > #! /bin/bash
> > > > > # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > > > > ###
> > > > > # Backup Script
> > > > > ###
> > > > >
> > > > > BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> > > > > EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
> > > > >
> > > > > echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> > > > > mount /boot -o ro
> > > > > echo
> > > > > echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> > > > > mount $BACKUP_TO
> > > > > sleep 4
> > > > > echo
> > > > > echo "   Performing backup..."
> > > > > echo
> > > > > rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE /
> > > > > $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> > > > >
> > > > > echo
> > > > > echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
> > > > >
> > > > > /bin/umount -l /boot
> > > > > /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
> > > > >
> > > > > echo
> > > > > echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> > > > > /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc  # spin down disk
> > > > > #==
> > > > > # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> > > > > - /tmp/
> > > > > - /var/lib/init.d/
> > > > > - /mnt/backup/
> > > > > - /mnt/cdrom/
> > > > > - /mnt/floppy/
> > > > > - /proc/
> > > > > - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> > > > > - /root/.ccache/
> > > > > - /home/peter/.ccache/
> > > > > #==
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter


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Remember to have /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude with the list of 
files/directories to exclude.

El Jueves Agosto 28 2003 22:45, Stephen Liu escribió:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks for your advice.
>
> $ cat /etc/crontab
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> MAILTO=root
> HOME=/
>
> # run-parts
> 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
> 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
>
>
> Shall I retain the above and add
>
> MAILTO=
> # do rsync backup nightly
> 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
>
> Kindly advise.  Thanks in advance.
>
> B.R.
> Stephen
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 09:03, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Friday 29 Aug 2003 01:53, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > Could you please advise how to use your script to start backup.  Also
> > > can backup start automatically at scheduled time?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > B.Regards
> > > Stephen Liu
> >
> > # chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > ...then edit root's crontab:
> > # crontab -e
> > and add these lines:
> >
> > MAILTO=
> > # do rsync backup nightly
> > 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> >
> > then it will run at 1 o'clock every morning
> >
> > > On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 06:26, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > > > > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > > > > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an
> > > > > 80 GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what
> > > > > method of backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast
> > > > > to recover being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ?
> > > > > Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > #==
> > > > #! /bin/bash
> > > > # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > > > ###
> > > > # Backup Script
> > > > ###
> > > >
> > > > BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> > > > EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
> > > >
> > > > echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> > > > mount /boot -o ro
> > > > echo
> > > > echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> > > > mount $BACKUP_TO
> > > > sleep 4
> > > > echo
> > > > echo "   Performing backup..."
> > > > echo
> > > > rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE /
> > > > $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> > > >
> > > > echo
> > > > echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
> > > >
> > > > /bin/umount -l /boot
> > > > /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
> > > >
> > > > echo
> > > > echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> > > > /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc# spin down disk
> > > > #==
> > > > # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> > > > - /tmp/
> > > > - /var/lib/init.d/
> > > > - /mnt/backup/
> > > > - /mnt/cdrom/
> > > > - /mnt/floppy/
> > > > - /proc/
> > > > - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> > > > - /root/.ccache/
> > > > - /home/peter/.ccache/
> > > > #==
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Andrew Farmer
At 29 August, 2003 Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thanks for your advice.
> 
> $ cat /etc/crontab
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> MAILTO=root
> HOME=/
> 
> # run-parts
> 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> 02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> 22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
> 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
> 
> 
> Shall I retain the above and add
> 
> MAILTO=
> # do rsync backup nightly
> 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> 
> Kindly advise.  Thanks in advance.

No. Use /etc/cron.daily.

(Look in the directory; any files set +x will be run daily. Root's
crontab should not be modified, really.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Peter,

Thanks for your advice.

$ cat /etc/crontab
SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=root
HOME=/

# run-parts
01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly


Shall I retain the above and add

MAILTO=
# do rsync backup nightly
0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync

Kindly advise.  Thanks in advance.

B.R.
Stephen



On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 09:03, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Friday 29 Aug 2003 01:53, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Could you please advise how to use your script to start backup.  Also
> > can backup start automatically at scheduled time?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > B.Regards
> > Stephen Liu
> 
> # chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> ...then edit root's crontab:
> # crontab -e
> and add these lines:
> 
> MAILTO=
> # do rsync backup nightly
> 0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> 
> then it will run at 1 o'clock every morning
> 
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 06:26, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > > > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > > > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an
> > > > 80 GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what
> > > > method of backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast
> > > > to recover being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ?
> > > > Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > #==
> > > #! /bin/bash
> > > # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > > ###
> > > # Backup Script
> > > ###
> > >
> > > BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> > > EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
> > >
> > > echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> > > mount /boot -o ro
> > > echo
> > > echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> > > mount $BACKUP_TO
> > > sleep 4
> > > echo
> > > echo "   Performing backup..."
> > > echo
> > > rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE /
> > > $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> > >
> > > echo
> > > echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
> > >
> > > /bin/umount -l /boot
> > > /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
> > >
> > > echo
> > > echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> > > /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc  # spin down disk
> > > #==
> > > # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> > > - /tmp/
> > > - /var/lib/init.d/
> > > - /mnt/backup/
> > > - /mnt/cdrom/
> > > - /mnt/floppy/
> > > - /proc/
> > > - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> > > - /root/.ccache/
> > > - /home/peter/.ccache/
> > > #==
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter


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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 01:53, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Could you please advise how to use your script to start backup.  Also
> can backup start automatically at scheduled time?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> B.Regards
> Stephen Liu

# chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
...then edit root's crontab:
# crontab -e
and add these lines:

MAILTO=
# do rsync backup nightly
0 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/my-rsync

then it will run at 1 o'clock every morning

>
> On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 06:26, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an
> > > 80 GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what
> > > method of backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast
> > > to recover being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ?
> > > Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > #==
> > #! /bin/bash
> > # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> > ###
> > # Backup Script
> > ###
> >
> > BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> > EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
> >
> > echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> > mount /boot -o ro
> > echo
> > echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> > mount $BACKUP_TO
> > sleep 4
> > echo
> > echo "   Performing backup..."
> > echo
> > rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE /
> > $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> >
> > echo
> > echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
> >
> > /bin/umount -l /boot
> > /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
> >
> > echo
> > echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> > /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc# spin down disk
> > #==
> > # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> > - /tmp/
> > - /var/lib/init.d/
> > - /mnt/backup/
> > - /mnt/cdrom/
> > - /mnt/floppy/
> > - /proc/
> > - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> > - /root/.ccache/
> > - /home/peter/.ccache/
> > #==
> >
> >
> > Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Pupeno
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El Jueves Agosto 28 2003 21:46, Stephen Liu escribió:
> Hi Pupeno,
>
> Are you connecting the backup hard drive as Master to secondary IDE or
> as SLAVE to Primary IDE
The HD I'm using is primary master, the back up HD is primary slave. this 
may not be optimal, but I have a DVD-ROM as secondary master and a CD-RW as 
secondary slave.
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Peter,

Could you please advise how to use your script to start backup.  Also
can backup start automatically at scheduled time?

Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen Liu


On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 06:26, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80
> > GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of
> > backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover
> > being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ? Something that is
> > faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > Thank you.
> 
> #==
> #! /bin/bash
> # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> ###
> # Backup Script
> ###
> 
> BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
> 
> echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> mount /boot -o ro
> echo
> echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> mount $BACKUP_TO
> sleep 4
> echo
> echo "   Performing backup..."
> echo
> rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / 
> $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
> 
> echo
> echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
> 
> /bin/umount -l /boot
> /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
> 
> echo
> echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc  # spin down disk
> #==
> # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> - /tmp/
> - /var/lib/init.d/
> - /mnt/backup/
> - /mnt/cdrom/
> - /mnt/floppy/
> - /proc/
> - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> - /root/.ccache/
> - /home/peter/.ccache/
> #==
> 
> Peter


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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Pupeno,

Are you connecting the backup hard drive as Master to secondary IDE or
as SLAVE to Primary IDE

Kindly advise.  Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen Liu

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> Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux swap, 
> the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I have 
> another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you 
> recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole HD 
> to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every 
> night ?
> Thank you.
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2003-08-29 Thread Pupeno
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What I did, diferent to you... is create exactly the same partitions in the 
second disk and I mount them with exactly the same hierachy as the root, but 
in /mnt/backup and the, rsync the whole root to /mnt/backup, so, everything 
should end up in it's own partition automatically, right ?
Thanks.

El Jueves Agosto 28 2003 21:10, Peter Ruskin escribió:
> On Friday 29 Aug 2003 00:40, Pupeno wrote:
> > first of all, thank you... this script was very useful.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> > I'm modifying it for my own uses... may I ask why the "sleep 4" after
> > the mount ?
>
> The last line of the script:
>   /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc
> spins the disk down.  This disk is only used for backups, so it is spun
> down at the end, to reduce power and noise.  The sleep is to allow time
> for it to spin up again.  It may not be needed but it does no harm.
>
> I run this daily as a cron job.  After the first day it's very quick,
> and it's the fastest way I've found to restore yesterday's stuff.
>
> Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 00:40, Pupeno wrote:
> first of all, thank you... this script was very useful.

You're welcome.

> I'm modifying it for my own uses... may I ask why the "sleep 4" after
> the mount ?

The last line of the script:
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc
spins the disk down.  This disk is only used for backups, so it is spun 
down at the end, to reduce power and noise.  The sleep is to allow time 
for it to spin up again.  It may not be needed but it does no harm.

I run this daily as a cron job.  After the first day it's very quick, 
and it's the fastest way I've found to restore yesterday's stuff.

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2003-08-28 Thread Pupeno
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first of all, thank you... this script was very useful.
I'm modifying it for my own uses... may I ask why the "sleep 4" after the 
mount ?
Thanks.
El Jueves Agosto 28 2003 19:26, Peter Ruskin escribió:
> On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> > Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> > linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80
> > GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of
> > backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover
> > being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ? Something that is
> > faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> > Thank you.
>
> #==
> #! /bin/bash
> # /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
> ###
> # Backup Script
> ###
>
> BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
> EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude
>
> echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
> mount /boot -o ro
> echo
> echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
> mount $BACKUP_TO
> sleep 4
> echo
> echo "   Performing backup..."
> echo
> rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE /
> $BACKUP_TO/rsync/
>
> echo
> echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."
>
> /bin/umount -l /boot
> /bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO
>
> echo
> echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
> /sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc  # spin down disk
> #==
> # /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
> - /tmp/
> - /var/lib/init.d/
> - /mnt/backup/
> - /mnt/cdrom/
> - /mnt/floppy/
> - /proc/
> - /usr/portage/distfiles/
> - /root/.ccache/
> - /home/peter/.ccache/
> #==
>
> Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the
> linux swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80
> GB HD... I have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of
> backing up do you recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover
> being that I have a whole HD to do the back up ? Something that is
> faster than doing a whole 'copy' every night ?
> Thank you.

#==
#! /bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/my-rsync
###
# Backup Script
###

BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
EXCLUDE=/usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude

echo "   Mounting boot partition..."
mount /boot -o ro
echo
echo "   Mounting backup disk..."
mount $BACKUP_TO
sleep 4
echo
echo "   Performing backup..."
echo
rsync --progress --delete -av --exclude-from=$EXCLUDE / 
$BACKUP_TO/rsync/

echo
echo "   Unmounting boot and backup partitions..."

/bin/umount -l /boot
/bin/umount -l $BACKUP_TO

echo
echo "   Spinning down backup disk..."
/sbin/hdparm -y /dev/hdc# spin down disk
#==
# /usr/local/bin/rsync-exclude:
- /tmp/
- /var/lib/init.d/
- /mnt/backup/
- /mnt/cdrom/
- /mnt/floppy/
- /proc/
- /usr/portage/distfiles/
- /root/.ccache/
- /home/peter/.ccache/
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Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread John-Paul Andrusky
On Aug 28, 2003 [18:06] -0300, Pupeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux swap, 
> the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I have 
> another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you 
> recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole HD 
> to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every 
> night ?
> Thank you.
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Are you planing on backing up the NTFS as well, cause if so you'll need to do
raw data back up (ie. dump the whole partition). The last time I check NTFS
didn't have write support under linux. Depending on your linux file systems as
well, you might consider using 'dump'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 28 August 2003 21:06, Pupeno wrote:
> Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux
> swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I
> have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you
> recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole
> HD to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy'
> every night ?
> Thank you.

I would do a complete tape-backup and then regularly incremental backups on 
tape too.

Glück Auf
Volker

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Re: [gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread Mike Williams
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On Thursday 28 August 2003 22:06, Pupeno wrote:
> Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux
> swap, the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I
> have another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you
> recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole
> HD to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy'
> every night ?
> Thank you.

I'd say your best bet is rsync.
Something possibly as simple as 'rsync -xlpogt --delete-after / /mnt/backup'.
Never really managed to get my head round rsync properly :o)

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[gentoo-user] HD back up

2003-08-28 Thread Pupeno
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Hello... I have one HD with a various partitions (10 GB NTFS, the linux swap, 
the /boot partition and my main partition), it is an 80 GB HD... I have 
another 80 GB HD to make back ups... what method of backing up do you 
recomend me ? Something that is fast to recover being that I have a whole HD 
to do the back up ? Something that is faster than doing a whole 'copy' every 
night ?
Thank you.
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