Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread Stephen Clowater
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Kevin Reichhart wrote:
| dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX will write zeros to every byte in your
| partition, effectively deleting everything there.
yes, _never_ do this, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda is a much better
way of accelerating preformance in windows machines.
|
| Due to the malicious intent of the sender, I would like to see the sender
| removed from the list.  However, since I'm not the list admin, it's
not my
| call.
Oh come on, have a sense of humor. If you execute commands you read on a
mailing list from someone whom you don't know without at least reading
the first 3 lines of the man page, well, you needed to learn the hard way.
Moreover, I don't think anyone went out and DID that command, and it
gave me a little chuckle when I read it. Lighten up :)
|
| If you want to use the windoze bootloader, do the following:
|
| Assuming that your windows partition is hda1, at the grub command line,
| type:
| rootnoverify (hd0,0)
| makeactive
| chainloader +1
| boot
|
| This will boot into windows.  Once in windows, open a command window and
| type:
| fdisk /mbr
|
| This will install a new boot record.
|
|
| If you want to use grub as your bootloader, add the following to your
| grub.conf:
|
| title Windows
|   rootnoverify (hd0,0)
|   chainloader +1
|
|
|
| On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
|
|
|Please dont post suggestions like this without a more detailed
|explanation - newbies have been known to blindly follow such suggestions
|with the predictable results.
|
|Also, the language is a bit ... objectionable ... for a public list.
|
|Please no flames
|
|BillK
|
|On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:50, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
|
|Thomas Buntrock wrote:
|
|Hi there,
|
|I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
|grub reinstall it.
|
|The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
|it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
|so there is no effect.
|
|Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling
xp?
|
|I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
|which will prevent such troubles forever:
|
|
|dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX
|
|hdXX is micro$hit partition
|
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread jkw
On 2004/01/08, at 23:23, Stephen Clowater wrote:

Oh come on, have a sense of humor. If you execute commands you read on 
a
mailing list from someone whom you don't know without at least reading
the first 3 lines of the man page, well, you needed to learn the hard 
way.
learn what? in sixth grade i told some kid about the really cool NEW 
command
after he'd spent an hour typing in his basic program. of course i was 
in sixth grade
so i was a dork... what grade are you in?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Kevin Reichhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you want to use the windoze bootloader, do the following:

 Assuming that your windows partition is hda1, at the grub command line, 
 type:
 rootnoverify (hd0,0)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1
 boot

 This will boot into windows.  Once in windows, open a command window and 
 type:
 fdisk /mbr

 This will install a new boot record.

The OP had installed Windows XP. XP has no fdisk, as far as I know.

To install a new mbr under Windows XP: boot from the Windows CD, select
Recovery Console and run fixmbr.
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread Thomas Buntrock
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:51:08PM -0600, Rainer Sigwald wrote:
  I don't have a winxp boot floppy, only a cdrom. Will a 98 disk do?
 
 Boot from XP CD, run 'recovery console', log in to the right windows installation.
 
 Then run 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' . . . will obliterate GRUB, but should boot windows.

Thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for. It worked perfecly. 

 
 Then fix Linux.

done .

Looking at the rest of this thread, I wonder: What have I done... ;-)

Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:01:16 +0100
Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking at the rest of this thread, I wonder: What have I done... ;-)
 
 Thomas
 

Not much other than ask a few pertinent questions, but there are always a few dorks 
lurking on any list, and the topic of Windows is guaranteed to bring them out in 
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-09 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Boot the XP disk.  Let setup go until you can get a prompt (fixit).

Then use the fixboot and fixmbr utility.  After that, boot back to linux and
setup grub correctly.

Tom Veldhouse

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From: Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

Hi there,

I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
grub reinstall it.

The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
so there is no effect.

Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp?

Thanks, Thomas


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[gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Thomas Buntrock
Hi there,

I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
grub reinstall it.

The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
so there is no effect.

Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 

Thanks, Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Barry Marler
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:59:30 +0100
Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
 grub reinstall it.
 
 The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0),
 write it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on
 a hdb, so there is no effect.
 
 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling
 xp? 

Boot with a Windows boot floppy.  From the command line, execute fdisk /mbr, to 
write the master boot record to the hard disk without altering partition table 
information.
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Christopher Fisk
Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 

Boot with a win9x bootdisk.  use fdisk to mark the windows XP disk as the 
active partition.  Then use the command: fdisk /mbr

That will return the MBR To windows XP bootable.  Marking the XP partition 
active may or may not be neccesary, but it won't hurt.  When you are done 
just unmark it as active in fdisk, and try to boot.


After this you'll want to reinstall grub like you did previously, except 
to the MBR instead of to the first partition on hda

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Thomas Buntrock
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Barry Marler wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:59:30 +0100
 Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi there,
  
  I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
  grub reinstall it.
  
  The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0),
  write it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on
  a hdb, so there is no effect.
  
  Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling
  xp? 
 
 Boot with a Windows boot floppy.  From the command line, execute
 fdisk /mbr, to write the master boot record to the hard disk without
 altering partition table information. 

I don't have a winxp boot floppy, only a cdrom. Will a 98 disk do?
However, that will only fix the mbr, what about the boot sector in the
first partition?

Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Thomas Buntrock
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 03:21:13PM -0500, Christopher Fisk wrote:
 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
 
 Boot with a win9x bootdisk.  use fdisk to mark the windows XP disk as the 
 active partition.  Then use the command: fdisk /mbr

done, but no effect. 

the problem is not the mbr. It's the boot sector of the first partition
and grub is still in there. 

Thomas


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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Manuel Pérez López
El Jueves, 8 de Enero de 2004 20:59, Thomas Buntrock escribió:

 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp?


Are you sure this is the forum for your question?
This's a Linux-Gentoo forum, I think.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Rainer Sigwald
 I don't have a winxp boot floppy, only a cdrom. Will a 98 disk do?

Boot from XP CD, run 'recovery console', log in to the right windows installation.

Then run 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' . . . will obliterate GRUB, but should boot windows.

Then fix Linux.

That's what I do when I mis-install grub or lilo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Ben Sutton
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 19:59, Thomas Buntrock wrote:
 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
 
 Thanks, Thomas

If you would like to restore the original XP bootloader this can be
achieved by booting the Windows XP cdrom and starting a 'Recovery
Console' session.  The following url should be of use:

http://www.compulink.co.uk/~davedorn/computing/windows/xprepair5.htm

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Barry Marler
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:36:24 +0100
Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 03:19:18PM -0500, Barry Marler wrote:
  On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:59:30 +0100
  Thomas Buntrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi there,
   
   I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i
   had grub reinstall it.
   
   The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0),
   write it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is
   running on a hdb, so there is no effect.
   
   Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without
   reinstalling xp? 
  
  Boot with a Windows boot floppy.  From the command line, execute
  fdisk /mbr, to write the master boot record to the hard disk
  without altering partition table information. 
 
 I don't have a winxp boot floppy, only a cdrom. Will a 98 disk do?
 However, that will only fix the mbr, what about the boot sector in the
 first partition?
 
 Thomas
 

Recovery console - fixboot/fixmbr?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Drake Wyrm
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:50:34PM +0100, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manuel P???rez 
L???pez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Jueves, 8 de Enero de 2004 20:59, Thomas Buntrock escribi:
  Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp?
 Are you sure this is the forum for your question?
 This's a Linux-Gentoo forum, I think.

and he's having a problem with his Gentoo Linux box. True, the problem
exists directly with an alternate OS, but said problem originated when he
accidentally clobbered something while installing Gentoo. Linux utilities
for fixing (and making) low-level mistakes are usually better than their
MS equivalents. This particular issue was an exception because nobody
has bothered to write an open-source utility for writing Windows boot
sectors, but it was still worth a shot. Also remember the relative
level of knowledge between the average Linux *user* and the average
Windows *user*. True, maybe the question was a little out of context,
but not much.
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Nuckerl Stefan
Boot with the windows XP Installdisk, it will tell you that it found an XP
Installation and ask you if you want to go on wioth rescue console, say yes,
then at the prompt, type:

fixmbr


try if XP boots again, but I doubt it, since you wrote to hda1, try the
second method then which should work; I'm pretty sure



boot again in rescue mode but this time don't type fixmbr but:

fixboot





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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Collins
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:17:13 -0800
Drake Wyrm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:50:34PM +0100, in
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manuel P???rez
 L???pez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  El Jueves, 8 de Enero de 2004 20:59, Thomas Buntrock escribi«Ñ:
   Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without
   reinstalling xp?
  Are you sure this is the forum for your question?
  This's a Linux-Gentoo forum, I think.
 
 and he's having a problem with his Gentoo Linux box. True, the problem
 exists directly with an alternate OS, but said problem originated when
 he accidentally clobbered something while installing Gentoo. 

Yeah.  Manuel, I can only say BFD.  Sharing information is always good. 
Some people still have to deal with the accursed M$, and information
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Nicholas Hockey




Don't be an ass, he is asking a valid question, if you don't know the answer than don't post, there is no need for slamming, you troll. that being said i will go on to explain what i think is a solution

You can use grub to boot your system, in fact lilo or grub is about the only way to boot your system, short of setting up a chain loading in the Windows XP loader, or using another boot loader, but just simply reinstalling the XP boot-loader will make your Linux partition (or hard drive as the case may be) virtually unusable unless you have the boot sector that you use to boot Linux safely tucked away on a floppy (or another for of media readable by windows) but if you still choose to use the Window XP boot-loader for loading Linux, here is a link to a site on how to set it up http://www.plugnpray.co.uk/linux/lilo-nt/1.html i know it's on lilo, but i don't even know if it's possible to do using grub, i don't use grub, in-fact i can't stand grub, but i hope this helps you, i know it helped me when i chose to use the Window XP boot loader

On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 15:50, Manuel Prez Lpez wrote:

El Jueves, 8 de Enero de 2004 20:59, Thomas Buntrock escribi:

 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp?


Are you sure this is the forum for your question?
This's a Linux-Gentoo forum, I think.




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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Thomas Buntrock wrote:
Hi there,

I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
grub reinstall it.
The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
so there is no effect.
Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
which will prevent such troubles forever:
dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX

hdXX is micro$hit partition

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Jonathan Nichols

Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 


I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
which will prevent such troubles forever:
dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX

hdXX is micro$hit partition

Yeah, that works, but it kind of makes stuff like Age of Empires II 
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Tom Hosiawa
 Hi there,
 
 I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
 grub reinstall it.
 
 The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
 it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
 so there is no effect.
 
 Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
 
 Thanks, Thomas

I've done this before, here's what you want:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_evwd.asp

Look at the instructions on the left for fixing the mbr and boot sector.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Please dont post suggestions like this without a more detailed
explanation - newbies have been known to blindly follow such suggestions
with the predictable results.  

Also, the language is a bit ... objectionable ... for a public list.

Please no flames

BillK

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:50, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 Thomas Buntrock wrote:
  Hi there,
  
  I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
  grub reinstall it.
  
  The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
  it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
  so there is no effect.
  
  Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
 
 I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
 which will prevent such troubles forever:
 
 
 dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX
 
 hdXX is micro$hit partition
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Reichhart
Do NOT use
dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX
it will 


On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

 Please dont post suggestions like this without a more detailed
 explanation - newbies have been known to blindly follow such suggestions
 with the predictable results.  
 
 Also, the language is a bit ... objectionable ... for a public list.
 
 Please no flames
 
 BillK
 
 On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:50, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
  Thomas Buntrock wrote:
   Hi there,
   
   I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
   grub reinstall it.
   
   The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
   it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
   so there is no effect.
   
   Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
  
  I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
  which will prevent such troubles forever:
  
  
  dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX
  
  hdXX is micro$hit partition
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] I killed my xp boot sector with grub

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Reichhart
dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX will write zeros to every byte in your 
partition, effectively deleting everything there.

Due to the malicious intent of the sender, I would like to see the sender 
removed from the list.  However, since I'm not the list admin, it's not my 
call.

If you want to use the windoze bootloader, do the following:

Assuming that your windows partition is hda1, at the grub command line, 
type:
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

This will boot into windows.  Once in windows, open a command window and 
type:
fdisk /mbr

This will install a new boot record.


If you want to use grub as your bootloader, add the following to your 
grub.conf:

title Windows
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  chainloader +1
  


On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

 Please dont post suggestions like this without a more detailed
 explanation - newbies have been known to blindly follow such suggestions
 with the predictable results.  
 
 Also, the language is a bit ... objectionable ... for a public list.
 
 Please no flames
 
 BillK
 
 On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 08:50, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
  Thomas Buntrock wrote:
   Hi there,
   
   I just replaced a win 98 with a win xp. xp overwrote the mbr, so i had
   grub reinstall it.
   
   The problem is, that I used setup (hd0,0) instead of setup (hd0), write
   it in the boot partition instead of the mbr. linux is running on a hdb,
   so there is no effect.
   
   Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? 
  
  I have very good universal solution for all micro$hit systems,
  which will prevent such troubles forever:
  
  
  dd if=/dev/zero  of=/dev/hdXX
  
  hdXX is micro$hit partition
  
  
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