Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 19:37, Dennis Freise wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:59:27 -0500
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:17, Dennis Freise wrote:
> > > The radeon-drivers from X don't support the RV350 chipset (Radeon 9600 &
> > > 9800 Pro) - that's my whole problem :)
> > 
> > Not exactly true. They don't support accelerated 3D, but they have
> > accelerated 2D.
> 
> Could you please be so kind as to explain me how I get 2D acceleration only ?
> The radeon driver of X didn't work here when selected. Starting X failed with a
> message somewhat like "Your chipset is not supported by this driver." (don't
> know the exact words now :) )

The issue here is not the rv350 chipset, but a few very new revisions of
the latest cards that don't have supprt yet. They should soon. I was
hoping one of xfree's patches would allow them to work anyway, but
apparently not.

Could you provide output of lspci -vv as an attached text file?


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Freise
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:59:27 -0500
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:17, Dennis Freise wrote:
> > The radeon-drivers from X don't support the RV350 chipset (Radeon 9600 &
> > 9800 Pro) - that's my whole problem :)
> 
> Not exactly true. They don't support accelerated 3D, but they have
> accelerated 2D.

Could you please be so kind as to explain me how I get 2D acceleration only ?
The radeon driver of X didn't work here when selected. Starting X failed with a
message somewhat like "Your chipset is not supported by this driver." (don't
know the exact words now :) )

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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Freise
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:53:59 -0500
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ati-drivers in portage work under 2.6.

Wow, now actually that's good news :) So I'll go with kernel 2.6 & ati-drivers
from portage. If it works, it couldn't be better. I'll post my result when I've
tried it tomorrow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:17, Dennis Freise wrote:
> The radeon-drivers from X don't support the RV350 chipset (Radeon 9600 & 9800
> Pro) - that's my whole problem :)

Not exactly true. They don't support accelerated 3D, but they have
accelerated 2D.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 07:00, Spider wrote:
> begin  quote
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:49:23 +0100
> Dennis Freise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you Spider, that was also my first thought :) But at the time I
> > tried it (~2 month ago), the ati-drivers didn't support 2.6. I think
> > i'll give it another shot and have a look if there are new
> > (2.6-compatible) drivers out, or maybe the kernel itself now supports
> > the RV350 ? :)
> 
> No clue there really.. .   As usual.. "donate me the hardware and I'll
> dokument how to make it work"  ;-)   , The normal statement from me when
> somone has better hardware than I do ;)

ati-drivers in portage work under 2.6.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Freise
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:58:08 -0600
"Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks for your reply.

> The ati-drivers don't need "agpgart". The "fglrx" kernel module has that
> functionality built in. I have 9500pro and everything is working.

That's right, it brings its own agpgart. Note that the included agpgart is
taken from kernel 2.4, and does not support agp3 (like the 2.4-kernel ones). I
also can't get X up without agpgart, the drivers won't let me. They load agpgart
on the start of X and fail with an error if agpgart doesn't load.

> If you can't get the ati-drivers to work, the "radeon" driver under X should
> get you a good resolution and refresh.

The radeon-drivers from X don't support the RV350 chipset (Radeon 9600 & 9800
Pro) - that's my whole problem :)

> My mainboard is a dual Tyan athlon mb, so I guess our hardware configuration
> is quite different.

Indeed.

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RE: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)
The ati-drivers don't need "agpgart". The "fglrx" kernel module has that
functionality built in. I have 9500pro and everything is working.

If you can't get the ati-drivers to work, the "radeon" driver under X should
get you a good resolution and refresh.

My mainboard is a dual Tyan athlon mb, so I guess our hardware configuration
is quite different.

-Nathan


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Freise

I posted this a while ago, but didn't get any helpful answer there... I've
got an ASUS A7V8X mainboard, which has a KT400 chipset, and I've got a ATI
Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card.
I can't get this working with X and any other driver than the vesa-vga
driver :( The problem is, that the agpgart-driver, which is needed for the
ati-drivers, does not support agp3 (agp-4x) which is by default enabled in
the Radeon-card. I googled _a lot_ to find any suggestions, and I found many
ways to disable agp3 in the mainboards bios, but that's not what I want.
I've got winxp on another partition, and that benifits from that mode, so I
want to leave it enabled at least for that OS. I do not need 3d-acceleration
under linux, but something more than 60 Hz on the x-desktop would be
_really_ nice :)
Now my question: Has anybody got this kind of hardware-combination running
with any other (better) X-mode ? Which kernel do you use ? Which drivers do
you use ?

Greetings, Dennis


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Spider
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:49:23 +0100
Dennis Freise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Spider, that was also my first thought :) But at the time I
> tried it (~2 month ago), the ati-drivers didn't support 2.6. I think
> i'll give it another shot and have a look if there are new
> (2.6-compatible) drivers out, or maybe the kernel itself now supports
> the RV350 ? :)

No clue there really.. .   As usual.. "donate me the hardware and I'll
dokument how to make it work"  ;-)   , The normal statement from me when
somone has better hardware than I do ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Freise
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:33:34 +0100
Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I posted this a while ago, but didn't get any helpful answer there...
> > I've
> > got an ASUS A7V8X mainboard, which has a KT400 chipset, and I've got a
> > ATI
> > Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card.
> > I can't get this working with X and any other driver than the vesa-vga
> > driver :( The problem is, that the agpgart-driver, which is needed for
> > the ati-drivers, does not support agp3 (agp-4x) which is by default
> > enabled in the Radeon-card.
> 
> I don't have a Radeon, but only  lousy nvidia, however I have the same
> mainboard, and can tell that kernel 2.6* supports agp 4x modes, which
> should be what you want.
> Give them a try.

Thank you Spider, that was also my first thought :) But at the time I tried it
(~2 month ago), the ati-drivers didn't support 2.6. I think i'll give it another
shot and have a look if there are new (2.6-compatible) drivers out, or maybe the
kernel itself now supports the RV350 ? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:13:02 +0100
"Dennis Freise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I posted this a while ago, but didn't get any helpful answer there...
> I've
> got an ASUS A7V8X mainboard, which has a KT400 chipset, and I've got a
> ATI
> Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card.
> I can't get this working with X and any other driver than the vesa-vga
> driver :( The problem is, that the agpgart-driver, which is needed for
> the ati-drivers, does not support agp3 (agp-4x) which is by default
> enabled in the Radeon-card.


I don't have a Radeon, but only  lousy nvidia, however I have the same
mainboard, and can tell that kernel 2.6* supports agp 4x modes, which
should be what you want.
Give them a try.

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[gentoo-user] KT400 & AGP-4X (Radeon 9800 Pro)

2003-11-14 Thread Dennis Freise
Hi.

I posted this a while ago, but didn't get any helpful answer there... I've
got an ASUS A7V8X mainboard, which has a KT400 chipset, and I've got a ATI
Radeon 9800 Pro graphics card.
I can't get this working with X and any other driver than the vesa-vga
driver :( The problem is, that the agpgart-driver, which is needed for the
ati-drivers, does not support agp3 (agp-4x) which is by default enabled in
the Radeon-card. I googled _a lot_ to find any suggestions, and I found many
ways to disable agp3 in the mainboards bios, but that's not what I want.
I've got winxp on another partition, and that benifits from that mode, so I
want to leave it enabled at least for that OS. I do not need 3d-acceleration
under linux, but something more than 60 Hz on the x-desktop would be
_really_ nice :)
Now my question: Has anybody got this kind of hardware-combination running
with any other (better) X-mode ? Which kernel do you use ? Which drivers do
you use ?

Greetings, Dennis


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