[gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Stroller
Folks,

Happy festive stuff. I hope you have all sated much consumerist avarice 
and enjoyed gouts of inebriated hedonism at this time of religious  
spiritual neglect.

I'm hoping that someone can advise me about local mail delivery. At 
present any messages produced by my cron jobs are emailed, using ssmtp, 
to my POP3 mailbox at my ISP, from where I retrieve them using the 
usual sorts of methods, however a recent ADSL outage has made me 
realise that it's more desirable for messages to be plonked straight 
into users' local maildir directories, rather than having the overhead 
of uploading  downloading again.

However, ssmtp doesn't seem to be the way to do this, its manpage says 
it especially does not deliver to pipelines. When mail is collected 
by fetchmail I use mailfilter to sort it, but if I run 
`/usr/bin/maildrop -d stroller` then I find the body of the message is 
delivered without any headers.

I'd rather not have sendmail sitting listening on an open port, as I 
recall happening on a comment during some of my earliest Unix reading 
on Usenet that it's easy to configure sendmail as an open-relay; I know 
that this was in the days when SGI shipped Irix with sendmail enabled 
out-of-the-box, and that it would probably be straightforward for me to 
secure it, however it just seems inelegant to have a daemon running  a 
port open when this probably could be handled with a pipe. Ideally I 
don't want to use postfix, as I understand that to replicate the 
functionality for which I'm presently using mailfilter.

Is there a sendmail replacement which does what I require, please..?

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Spider
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:38:10 +
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a sendmail replacement which does what I require, please..?

with the risk of being selfpromoting, might this setup be what you
require? 

http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/local-mail-0.3.0/local-email.html

it sets up postfix for local delivery, then uses fetchmail to pull email
into postfix, which is then sorted by procmail into users directories.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Stroller
On Dec 27, 2003, at 9:51 pm, Spider wrote:

begin  quote
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:38:10 +
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a sendmail replacement which does what I require, please..?
with the risk of being selfpromoting, might this setup be what you
require?
http://dev.gentoo.org/~spider/local-mail-0.3.0/local-email.html

it sets up postfix for local delivery, then uses fetchmail to pull 
email
into postfix, which is then sorted by procmail into users directories.
I believe I read your excellent article some time ago, when I setup 
Courier-IMAP. However at that time I'd already committed to mailfilter 
for filtering of incoming mail; it's my understanding that postfix does 
many of the same things as mailfilter. Is this correct..? Or am I 
confusing postfix with procmail..?

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Spider
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:03:04 +
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe I read your excellent article some time ago, when I setup 
 Courier-IMAP. However at that time I'd already committed to mailfilter
 for filtering of incoming mail; it's my understanding that postfix
 does many of the same things as mailfilter. Is this correct..? Or am I
 confusing postfix with procmail..?

I think you are confusing postfix with procmail,  but I'd be surprised
if you can't cut out the spamassassin/procmail parts of the guide and
adapt it to mailfilter instead. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:03:04 +
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I believe I read your excellent article some time ago, when I setup 
 Courier-IMAP. However at that time I'd already committed to mailfilter
 for filtering of incoming mail; it's my understanding that postfix
 does many of the same things as mailfilter. Is this correct..? Or am I
 confusing postfix with procmail..?
 


as a followup to my other reply :


http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/RH90-Postfix-Courier-Maildrop-IMAP/

Look down below the : Configure Postfix to use Maildrop 
About halfway down the page.

mailbox_command = /usr/local/bin/maildrop -- you prolly want
/usr/bin/maildrop


# and add this 
local_destination_concurrency_limit=1



well, read that document for more info, it is redhat centric so you can
probably rid yourself of 90% of it as its already done here ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery - ssmtp maildrop...?

2003-12-27 Thread Stroller
On Dec 27, 2003, at 10:52 pm, Spider wrote:

begin  quote
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:03:04 +
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's my understanding that postfix
does many of the same things as mailfilter. Is this correct..? Or am I
confusing postfix with procmail..?


as a followup to my other reply :

http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/RH90-Postfix-Courier-Maildrop-IMAP/

Look down below the : Configure Postfix to use Maildrop
About halfway down the page
Ah! Looks perfect. Many thanks.

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-21 Thread Martin Horak
Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little 
bit normalized.

-- quoting Luke Scharf --
 

Darnit!  Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ;
sendmail -bp)  for me.  :-)
   

If you don't want to hack cryptic config files, I suggest you give Postfix 
or Qmail a try. Last one is a bit strange, but if you got it, it's 
extremly powerful.

Greetings, Matthias

 





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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-21 Thread Keith Dart
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 23:21, Martin Horak wrote:
 Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little 
 bit normalized.

I just installed courier. I think it is great. It comes with everything!
An IMAP server, POP3, filters (replaces procmail), SSL, and of course
ESMTP MTA. It comes with lots of good mail tools. And yes, a saner
configuration. 




 -- quoting Luke Scharf --
   
 
 Darnit!  Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ;
 sendmail -bp)  for me.  :-)
 
 
 
 If you don't want to hack cryptic config files, I suggest you give Postfix 
 or Qmail a try. Last one is a bit strange, but if you got it, it's 
 extremly powerful.
 
 Greetings, Matthias
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-21 Thread Ric Messier
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Martin Horak wrote:

 Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little 
 bit normalized.
 

I've had problems with courier in the past but I can't remember off-hand 
what they are. The best one I've seen for ease of use and maintainability 
is postfix. 

Ric


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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-21 Thread Luke Scharf
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 02:21, Martin Horak wrote:
 Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a
 little bit normalized.

I've used Courier in the past, and it rocks!

But I thought it was better suited for large installations...  It's been
a long time since I set it up, though, and I can't remember the details
of what made it good for big sites.

-Luke

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-20 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Luke Scharf --
 Darnit!  Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ;
 sendmail -bp)  for me.  :-)

If you don't want to hack cryptic config files, I suggest you give Postfix 
or Qmail a try. Last one is a bit strange, but if you got it, it's 
extremly powerful.

Greetings, Matthias

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[gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-18 Thread Luke Scharf
I'm running ssmtp (the default sendmail program, I think) on Gentoo.  It
works great for sending messages (like this one), but it doesn't seem to
do too well for local mail delivery.

The only things that I use local mail delivery for are reading the
results of cronjobs and for things like logwatch.  Ideally, I'd like to
set ~root/.forward to point to my user account and then let evolution
read /var/spool/mail/myusername.

Is this possible with ssmtp?  If not, how do you all solve this problem?

Thanks in advance,
-Luke

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-18 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Luke Scharf wrote:
I'm running ssmtp (the default sendmail program, I think) on Gentoo.  It
works great for sending messages (like this one), but it doesn't seem to
do too well for local mail delivery.
The only things that I use local mail delivery for are reading the
results of cronjobs and for things like logwatch.  Ideally, I'd like to
set ~root/.forward to point to my user account and then let evolution
read /var/spool/mail/myusername.
Is this possible with ssmtp?  If not, how do you all solve this problem?
ssmtp does not work this way. It is pretty much a mail gateway. I don't know if it can be 
done the way you propose without a full mail server. The only way I know to get local mail 
delivery is with a full mail server such as sendmail or qmail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

2003-11-18 Thread Luke Scharf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 15:52, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 ssmtp does not work this way. It is pretty much a mail gateway. I don't know if it 
 can be 
 done the way you propose without a full mail server. The only way I know to get 
 local mail 
 delivery is with a full mail server such as sendmail or qmail.

Darnit!  Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ;
sendmail -bp)  for me.  :-)

-Luke

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Re: [gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-27 Thread Greg Donald

  What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?
 
 sauron root # qpkg -f `which mail`
 net-mail/mailx *

I now have mailx installed, thanks.

But now I got different issue.

 echo test | mail -s test root
send-mail: Cannot open gateway:25

 telnet 0 25
Trying 0.0.0.0...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

But when I try and start it

 /etc/init.d/sendmail start  
 * WARNING:  sendmail has already been started.


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[gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-26 Thread Greg Donald

I seem to have no local mail delivery:

 echo test | mail -s test root
-/bin/bash: mail: command not found

So I started poking around and see that I already have ssmtp installed.  It 
seems unconfigured so I make some obvious changes to /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf.  At 
this point I don't know how to start it up, there is no ssmtpd or anything 
obvious in /etc/init.d.

I then decided to install sendmail.  I was forced to unmerge ssmtp first do to 
a blockage, but then emerging sendmail put ssmtp right back in as a 
dependancy?  Weird..  Anyway, I added sendmail to my startup using rc-update 
and then I started it up by hand.  I again try to send a test message but can't.

What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-26 Thread Mike Williams
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On Tuesday 26 August 2003 23:14, Greg Donald wrote:

 What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?

sauron root # qpkg -f `which mail`
net-mail/mailx *

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] local mail delivery

2003-08-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Greg Donald wrote:
I seem to have no local mail delivery:


echo test | mail -s test root
-/bin/bash: mail: command not found

So I started poking around and see that I already have ssmtp installed.  It 
seems unconfigured so I make some obvious changes to /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf.  At 
this point I don't know how to start it up, there is no ssmtpd or anything 
obvious in /etc/init.d.

I then decided to install sendmail.  I was forced to unmerge ssmtp first do to 
a blockage, but then emerging sendmail put ssmtp right back in as a 
dependancy?  Weird..  Anyway, I added sendmail to my startup using rc-update 
and then I started it up by hand.  I again try to send a test message but can't.

What do I need to do to get local mail delivery?
As far as ssmtp, so send an email like you attempted to, you use 
'sendmail' or 'ssmtp', but all that ssmtp does is act as a mail proxy 
and forward anything it gets to a known mail server as per its config 
file. It is really only meant for sending mail, not receiving it.

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