Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-28 Thread Keith Dart
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Markus Dittrich wrote:

 Tom,
 
 It is fairly easy to compile and install python from
 source - you could simply keep your personal python 2.3
 in e.g. ~/local and let gentoo use the default 2.2
 install. That's what I have been doing in the past.

Just be sure to use make altinstall as your last step if compiling 
from source. That will avoid making a filesystem link to python, and 
preserve the original. Then, you must use #!/usr/bin/python2.3 in 
your 2.3 scripts if you wish.

PS. This is my first gentoo-user list post! :-) I am a new Gentoo 
user... But a long time Linux user. I like Gentoo a lot (except for 
the slw install... ) 

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[gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.

Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
python 2.3 ebuild stable??

If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to install
python 2.3 on my box?
update portage then python 2.3??


how about those python modules??
How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Marius Mauch
On 10/27/03  Zarick Lau wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.
 
 Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
 python 2.3 ebuild stable??

We hope that there are no problems left with portage and python-2.3, but
as there are some incompatibilities between 2.2 and 2.3 and some
important changes to portage to support python-2.3 it's still masked.

 If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to
 install python 2.3 on my box?
 update portage then python 2.3??

wait until it becomes stable.

 how about those python modules??
 How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?

After you emerged python-2.3 you're told to run python-updater, that is
a script that will re-emerge all python modules.

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Robert Kruus
It is rumored that on Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:39:54 +1300
Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:17:50PM +0800, Zarick Lau wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.
  
  Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
  python 2.3 ebuild stable??
  
  If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to install
  python 2.3 on my box?
  update portage then python 2.3??
  
  
  how about those python modules??
  How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?
 
 I have to admit this has been really frustrating for me as well...  Because I
 do a lot of my university work in python 2.3 I haven't really been able to
 work from home until 2.3 gets marked as stable.  It's not a big deal, but I
 like 2.3 and want it available.
 
 But here's my thought... a lot of distributions have multiple versions of
 python installed (with binaries like python2.2, python2.3 etc).  So what's
 stopping Gentoo from using its slotting mechanism for just this purpose?  Then
 you could have all the python versions you want and portage itself could be
 dependent on the 2.2 slot of python until such time as they have it ready for
 2.3?
 
 If portage is almost ready for 2.3 then I guess it's a moot point.  But it
 still seems like a reasonable idea to me.
 
   Tom
 
 
If you check out the python ebuild in portage, you will see it is slotted for
2.3.  I don't have it installed, but I assume it works (it is still set as ~x86
though).  So technically, you could have it installed at home
HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Tom Eastman
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 07:17:28PM -0500, Robert Kruus wrote:
 If you check out the python ebuild in portage, you will see it is slotted for
 2.3.  I don't have it installed, but I assume it works (it is still set as ~x86
 though).  So technically, you could have it installed at home
 HTH

Oh ok cool, I admit that I hadn't even checked.  I think I *will* wait
until portage is ready for it though... after all... I don't mind
breaking apps every now and then but if portage goes down then you're
pretty royally screwed.  Best to err on the side of paranoia.

Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Markus Dittrich
Tom,

It is fairly easy to compile and install python from
source - you could simply keep your personal python 2.3
in e.g. ~/local and let gentoo use the default 2.2
install. That's what I have been doing in the past.

cheers,
MARKUS


On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Tom Eastman wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:17:50PM +0800, Zarick Lau wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.
 
  Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
  python 2.3 ebuild stable??
 
  If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to install
  python 2.3 on my box?
  update portage then python 2.3??
 
 
  how about those python modules??
  How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?

 I have to admit this has been really frustrating for me as well...  Because I do
 a lot of my university work in python 2.3 I haven't really been able to work
 from home until 2.3 gets marked as stable.  It's not a big deal, but I like 2.3
 and want it available.

 But here's my thought... a lot of distributions have multiple versions of python
 installed (with binaries like python2.2, python2.3 etc).  So what's stopping
 Gentoo from using its slotting mechanism for just this purpose?  Then you could
 have all the python versions you want and portage itself could be dependent on
 the 2.2 slot of python until such time as they have it ready for 2.3?

 If portage is almost ready for 2.3 then I guess it's a moot point.  But it still
 seems like a reasonable idea to me.

   Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

Thanks for all your kindly response!

Right, it leads me to some question on the slot mechanism.
The slot stuff is nothing but making different version of pkg to coexist
on the system. Then, it there a way to setting the current version to
user? Is there any convention used whenever there are slotted pkgs?

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 20:15, Marius Mauch wrote:
 On 10/27/03  Zarick Lau wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.
  
  Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
  python 2.3 ebuild stable??
 
 We hope that there are no problems left with portage and python-2.3, but
 as there are some incompatibilities between 2.2 and 2.3 and some
 important changes to portage to support python-2.3 it's still masked.
Right, I have check the bug in bugzilla.
BTW, I am quite interested to give it a try, or as long as I can have a
way to recover my system in case crapp.
IMO, if I have a binary pkg of portage and python2.2 (stable),
it should be totally safe for me to try out the the unstable ones, do I
right?

 
  If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to
  install python 2.3 on my box?
  update portage then python 2.3??
 
 wait until it becomes stable.
 
  how about those python modules??
  How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?
 
 After you emerged python-2.3 you're told to run python-updater, that is
 a script that will re-emerge all python modules.
Thanks !
 
 Marius

Zarick Lau



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Re: [gentoo-user] Python 2.3 ready?

2003-10-27 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

Thanks for all your kindly response!

Right, it leads me to some question on the slot mechanism.
The slot stuff is nothing but making different version of pkg to coexist
on the system. Then, it there a way to setting the current version to
user? Is there any convention used whenever there are slotted pkgs?

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 20:15, Marius Mauch wrote:
 On 10/27/03  Zarick Lau wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Just want to know about the status on python 2.3.
  
  Does portage is totally ready for python 2.3 and
  python 2.3 ebuild stable??
 
 We hope that there are no problems left with portage and python-2.3, but
 as there are some incompatibilities between 2.2 and 2.3 and some
 important changes to portage to support python-2.3 it's still masked.
Right, I have check the bug in bugzilla.
BTW, I am quite interested to give it a try, or as long as I can have a
way to recover my system in case crapp.
IMO, if I have a binary pkg of portage and python2.2 (stable),
it should be totally safe for me to try out the the unstable ones, do I
right?

 
  If the both question is positive, what should I do  in order to
  install python 2.3 on my box?
  update portage then python 2.3??
 
 wait until it becomes stable.
 
  how about those python modules??
  How to make it work with python 2.{2,3}?
 
 After you emerged python-2.3 you're told to run python-updater, that is
 a script that will re-emerge all python modules.
Thanks !
 
 Marius

Zarick Lau



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