Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
Jan Callewaert wrote: * Janne Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-28 09:32:08 +0200]: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:42 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Probably not, it probably just puts an icon in the Kmenu. I'm still not really sure, but at least Jan Callewaert just said in this thread that: "If you use the kde use flag, you have also kdeified menu's and icons and it uses kde dialogs, etc. I think it's in fact patched like the SUSE Openoffice version, which is also kdeified. It's really nice." I don't think anyone's come up with a sed+awk/perl/python script to automagically convert GTK/Gnome apps to QT/KDE. I don't think so either, but OpenOffice-Ximian is neither GTK nor Qt app and I know it has been themed to match both. -- Janne Most of the icons in openoffice can be changed. There is a quite simple procedure to get new ones, with a website and instructions (you will have to google...). You don't need openoffice-ximian for that. If I remember they ones I installed looked quite kde-ish, though it was a while ago. I think this will be obseleted quite soon though - OO2 is just around the corner and is absolutely brilliant (though pretty slow for a lot of things). It is even sexy - something you can not accuse the vanilla OO of! Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
* Janne Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-28 09:32:08 +0200]: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:42 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Probably not, it probably just puts an icon in the Kmenu. > > I'm still not really sure, but at least Jan Callewaert just said in this > thread that: > > "If you use the kde use flag, you have also kdeified menu's and icons > and it uses kde dialogs, etc. I think it's in fact patched like the > SUSE Openoffice version, which is also kdeified. It's really nice." > > > I don't think anyone's come up with a sed+awk/perl/python script to > > automagically convert GTK/Gnome apps to QT/KDE. > > I don't think so either, but OpenOffice-Ximian is neither GTK nor Qt app > and I know it has been themed to match both. > > -- > Janne > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > There is a screenshot of openoffice-ximian compiled with kde-flags on gentoo-portage: http://www.gentoo-portage.com/Image/136. Jan -- If God had really intended men to fly, he'd make it easier to get to the airport. -- George Winters -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:42 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Probably not, it probably just puts an icon in the Kmenu. I'm still not really sure, but at least Jan Callewaert just said in this thread that: "If you use the kde use flag, you have also kdeified menu's and icons and it uses kde dialogs, etc. I think it's in fact patched like the SUSE Openoffice version, which is also kdeified. It's really nice." > I don't think anyone's come up with a sed+awk/perl/python script to > automagically convert GTK/Gnome apps to QT/KDE. I don't think so either, but OpenOffice-Ximian is neither GTK nor Qt app and I know it has been themed to match both. -- Janne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:24 am, Janne Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:28 -0500, Covington, Chris wrote: > > I would prefer it if there were OO-KDE instead of OO-Ximian. > > Since I'm mainly a Gnome/Openbox user, I have no ide what the kde > use-flag does with the openoffice-ximian, but I do know there is one: > > It may be what you're looking for, but then again it may not. Probably not, it probably just puts an icon in the Kmenu. I don't think anyone's come up with a sed+awk/perl/python script to automagically convert GTK/Gnome apps to QT/KDE. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
* Sascha Hlusiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-26 22:13:47 +0100]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge openoffice-ximian -vp > | > | These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > | > | Calculating dependencies ...done! > | [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-ximian-1.3.7 +curl -debug +gnome > | -hardened +java -kde +nptl +zlib 0 kB > > AFAIK controls the kde as well as the gnome useflag only whether menu > items shall be generated or not. With the kde Useflag you have > OpenOffice in the k-menu. > > > Sascha > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFB+AgLOyDtNneHFrMRAsNtAJwKCQeH5ot1ArFdMW+ozV39tjxXXwCdHCmn > aSFppn5O8rHrvXwvgVJBOkU= > =6OLf > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > If you use the kde use flag, you have also kdeified menu's and icons and it uses kde dialogs, etc. I think it's in fact patched like the SUSE Openoffice version, which is also kdeified. It's really nice. Jan -- If God had really intended men to fly, he'd make it easier to get to the airport. -- George Winters -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge openoffice-ximian -vp | | These are the packages that I would merge, in order: | | Calculating dependencies ...done! | [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-ximian-1.3.7 +curl -debug +gnome | -hardened +java -kde +nptl +zlib 0 kB AFAIK controls the kde as well as the gnome useflag only whether menu items shall be generated or not. With the kde Useflag you have OpenOffice in the k-menu. Sascha -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB+AgLOyDtNneHFrMRAsNtAJwKCQeH5ot1ArFdMW+ozV39tjxXXwCdHCmn aSFppn5O8rHrvXwvgVJBOkU= =6OLf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:28 -0500, Covington, Chris wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:54 +0100, Sebastian Flothow wrote: > > Am 23. Jan 2005 um 13:02 Uhr schrieb Janne Johansson: > > > There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. > > > > That sounds nice. Are there any drawbacks to OO-Ximian? > > I would prefer it if there were OO-KDE instead of OO-Ximian. Since I'm mainly a Gnome/Openbox user, I have no ide what the kde use-flag does with the openoffice-ximian, but I do know there is one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge openoffice-ximian -vp These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-ximian-1.3.7 +curl -debug +gnome -hardened +java -kde +nptl +zlib 0 kB It may be what you're looking for, but then again it may not. -- Janne "So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world." - Immanuel Kant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:54 +0100, Sebastian Flothow wrote: > Am 23. Jan 2005 um 13:02 Uhr schrieb Janne Johansson: > > There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. > > That sounds nice. Are there any drawbacks to OO-Ximian? I would prefer it if there were OO-KDE instead of OO-Ximian. Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
Am 23. Jan 2005 um 13:02 Uhr schrieb Janne Johansson: There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. That sounds nice. Are there any drawbacks to OO-Ximian? Also, does anybody know how OO-Ximian version numbers relate to OO-vanilla versions? I couldn't find any info on this on th OO-Ximian site. Sebastian -- Sebastian Flothow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > Why is top posting frowned upon? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:31 -0200, Julio Biason wrote: > 2005.01.23 02:01:51, Sven Köhler: > > OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use > > GTK, so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test > > OpenOffice-Ximian. > > NO! > > OpenOffice uses its own widget toolkit. Yup. > The main difference from OO and XOO is that the later has patches to > follow the GTK colors (colors only) and use the default GNOME icons. I > think there is also support for gnomevfs (so you can access samba > shares) but I'm not sure. There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. -- Janne "So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world." - Immanuel Kant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
2005.01.23 02:01:51, Sven Köhler: > OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use > GTK, so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test > OpenOffice-Ximian. NO! OpenOffice uses its own widget toolkit. The main difference from OO and XOO is that the later has patches to follow the GTK colors (colors only) and use the default GNOME icons. I think there is also support for gnomevfs (so you can access samba shares) but I'm not sure. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
050123 Sven K?hler wrote: >> can anyone tell me briefly what the difference is >> between Open Office (vanilla) & Open-Office-Ximian ? >> i'm a long-time user of OO-vanilla compiled in full, >> but thought i would try something different in hopes of learning. >> the Ximian WWW site doesn't offer any explanation >> & after emerging both (OO bin , OO-Ximian 4 h 30 m ) >> all i can see is a different set of buttons in the window. > OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. > Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use GTK, > so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test OO-Ximian. well well ! you learn something everyday ! or several things ... i had no idea it was a QT/Gtk thing. i have enough of KDE installed to run the desktop (i don't usually) & enough of Gnome/Gtk to run G-type apps, so it makes no difference here. thanx for the enlightenment. anyone have comments re performance, pros/cons etc ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
can anyone tell me briefly what the difference is between Open Office (vanilla) & Open-Office-Ximian ? i'm a long-time user of OO-vanilla compiled in full, but thought i would try something different in hopes of learning. the Ximian WWW site doesn't offer any explanation & after emerging both (OO bin , OO-Ximian 4 h 30 m ) all i can see is a different set of buttons in the window. OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use GTK, so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test OpenOffice-Ximian. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
