Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Hall,

Thanks for your advice.

At 12:07 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote:

# make clean dep
# make bzImage modules
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make 
modules_install


No, make bzImage actually creates that file. The instructions have 
seemingly always been written this way and they've stuck. It's not 
really important either way.
Noted with thanks

# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o
(should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be 
better to
# emerge nvidia-kernel

What is nvidia-kernel?
3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel

Do you use an nVidia video card ?? If not, disregard that step. If you 
do, here's a very brief description: 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-kernel-1.0.4496-r4. You may 
also want nvidia-glx too. Read about it here, 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-glx-1.0.4496-r1. They 
simply provide optimized performance of your video card under X-Windows.
I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D 
Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia 
video card.  How to check it?

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi mathieu,

Thanks for your advice.

- snip -
 

1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build:
# emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src
# rm -f linux
# ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux
# cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux
 

Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/
   

yes. it's created by make menuconfig (or config / oldconfig / config).
I've never understood why it's hidden, I would have called it kernel.config.
There is also a live version that you can find in /proc/config but maybe 
you've got to compile something in kernel (or it's only for 2.6, I don't 
remember)

 

Noted with thanks

2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound
(should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to
backup them)
# emerge alsa-driver
 

I have not installed alsa-driver yet.  Gentoo 1.4 is without sound.
At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the
box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card.  The installation
was interrupted unexpectedly.  I posted for assistance on this List and
I was advised that I should install alsa-driver.  Therefore I just
left it there incomplete.  Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module
I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under
/var/log/
   

follow the gentoo doc to install alsa-driver, it's easy and clear, as ever ;-)
 

OK I will search this doc.

4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the
lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.
 

What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7
   

Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the 
post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking cursor 
at bottom of screen.

but, I would do the following.

title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
or in vi
/Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq
;-)
Sorry, I am not very clear.  It seems having only one kernel there, the 
new kernel.  How can I select the old kernel if something going wrong.  
I expect clarifying it before start.

Any folk on the List can shed me some light.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:54, Stephen Liu wrote:
 I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D
 Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia
 video card.  How to check it?

Google for Voodoo Banshee.

To save you the time, Voodoo Banshee is a chip produced by the long-gone 3DFX.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

Sorry I made a mistake. 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT. 

I meshed it with another graphic card running on a RH9 box used for 
testing SSH.

How to check it whether it runs nVidia driver?

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:54, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D
Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia
video card.  How to check it?
   

Google for Voodoo Banshee.

To save you the time, Voodoo Banshee is a chip produced by the long-gone 3DFX.

Jason
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

Thanks for your assistance.

I have made google search with

Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset
and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a 
search.

Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.
I meshed it with another graphic card running on a RH9 box used for
testing SSH.
How to check it whether it runs nVidia driver?
   

Same way. Google for Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.

I'll save you time again. It is a Nvidia chipset and yes the nvidia x11 driver 
does support it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 20:17, Stephen Liu wrote:
 I have made google search with

 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset

 and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a
 search.

I just did a search on creative graphic blaster rivatnt

The first result TOP OFFICE Srl - Prodotti CREATIVE - Graphic Blaster Riva 
TNT contained Delivers world-class 2D and 3D acceleration using nVidia's 
new RivaTNT processor near the top of the page.

The second result User Reviews - Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT 
contained I hated the b.s. that came with the creative drivers, so as soon 
as nvidia released an update, I switched to their drivers and now everything 
is great. half-way down the page.

The third result NASCAR Revolution contained NVIDIA® TNT and Riva 128TM 
half-way down the page.

Even the first result returned by your search of Create Graphic Blaster 
rivaTNT was X-bit labs - Articles - Creative 3D Blaster Riva TNT2 M64 
Review - a page almost identical to the first result above.

Should I continue?

 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
 Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread mathieu perrenoud
 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the
 lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.
 
 What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 
 title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7
 
 Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the
 post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking
  cursor at bottom of screen.
 
 but, I would do the following.
 
 title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
 
 or in vi
 /Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq
 ;-)

 Sorry, I am not very clear.  It seems having only one kernel there, the
 new kernel.  How can I select the old kernel if something going wrong.
 I expect clarifying it before start.

 Any folk on the List can shed me some light.

_append_ the lines at the end of grub.conf, like this:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7

title=Gentoo Linux, my own new kernel gentoo-r8
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

I re-checked it.
Oh I see.They are case sensitive
Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 20:17, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

I have made google search with

Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset
and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a
search.
   

I just did a search on creative graphic blaster rivatnt

The first result TOP OFFICE Srl - Prodotti CREATIVE - Graphic Blaster Riva 
TNT contained Delivers world-class 2D and 3D acceleration using nVidia's 
new RivaTNT processor near the top of the page.

The second result User Reviews - Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT 
contained I hated the b.s. that came with the creative drivers, so as soon 
as nvidia released an update, I switched to their drivers and now everything 
is great. half-way down the page.

The third result NASCAR Revolution contained NVIDIA® TNT and Riva 128TM 
half-way down the page.

Even the first result returned by your search of Create Graphic Blaster 
rivaTNT was X-bit labs - Articles - Creative 3D Blaster Riva TNT2 M64 
Review - a page almost identical to the first result above.

Should I continue?

 

On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.


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[gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi all folks,

I am running kernel
(/usr/src/linux/Makefile)
VERSION = 2
PATCHLEVEL = 4
SUBLEVEL = 20
EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7
and prepared upgrading it to r8

Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel 
from Gentoo website to retain old kernel.  So there will be 2 kernels at 
boot for selection.  I use Grub.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread brett holcomb
Emerge the kernel you want, link /usr/src/linux to the new 
directory and then build it.  Move the new bzImage to 
/boot with a new name of course.  Modify grub, boot.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:41:38 +0800
 Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all folks,

I am running kernel
(/usr/src/linux/Makefile)
VERSION = 2
PATCHLEVEL = 4
SUBLEVEL = 20
EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7
and prepared upgrading it to r8

Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to 
upgrade kernel from Gentoo website to retain old kernel. 
So there will be 2 kernels at boot for selection.  I use 
Grub.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
Stephen Liu
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread mathieu
Le Mardi 18 Novembre 2003 13:41, Stephen Liu a écrit :
 Hi all folks,

 I am running kernel
 (/usr/src/linux/Makefile)

 VERSION = 2
 PATCHLEVEL = 4
 SUBLEVEL = 20
 EXTRAVERSION = -gentoo-r7

 and prepared upgrading it to r8

 Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel
 from Gentoo website to retain old kernel.  So there will be 2 kernels at
 boot for selection.  I use Grub.

1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build:
# emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src
# rm -f linux
# ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux
# cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux
# cd linux
# make oldconfig
... answer questions if any ...
# make clean dep
# make bzImage modules
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8

2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound
(should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to 
backup them)
# emerge alsa-driver

3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o
(should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to
# emerge nvidia-kernel

4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the lines 
for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi mathieu,

Thanks for your detail advice.  I have following points expected to be 
advised.

- snip -
Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel
from Gentoo website to retain old kernel.  So there will be 2 kernels at
boot for selection.  I use Grub.
   

1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build:
# emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src
# rm -f linux
# ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux
# cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux
 

Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/

# cd linux
# make oldconfig
... answer questions if any ...
# make clean dep
# make bzImage modules
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
 

I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make 
modules_install

2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound
(should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to 
backup them)
# emerge alsa-driver
 

I have not installed alsa-driver yet.  Gentoo 1.4 is without sound.  
At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the 
box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card.  The installation 
was interrupted unexpectedly.  I posted for assistance on this List and 
I was advised that I should install alsa-driver.  Therefore I just 
left it there incomplete.  Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module

I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under 
/var/log/

3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o
(should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to
# emerge nvidia-kernel
 

What is nvidia-kernel?

4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the lines 
for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.
 

What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7
Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread Hall Stevenson
At 12:07 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote:
# make clean dep
# make bzImage modules
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make 
modules_install
No, make bzImage actually creates that file. The instructions have 
seemingly always been written this way and they've stuck. It's not really 
important either way.

3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o
(should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be better to
# emerge nvidia-kernel
What is nvidia-kernel?
Do you use an nVidia video card ?? If not, disregard that step. If you do, 
here's a very brief description: 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-kernel-1.0.4496-r4. You may also 
want nvidia-glx too. Read about it here, 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-glx-1.0.4496-r1. They simply 
provide optimized performance of your video card under X-Windows.

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-18 Thread mathieu perrenoud
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:07, Stephen Liu wrote:
 Hi mathieu,

 Thanks for your detail advice.  I have following points expected to be
 advised.

 - snip -
 Kindly advise what will be the correct command line to upgrade kernel
 from Gentoo website to retain old kernel.  So there will be 2 kernels at
 boot for selection.  I use Grub.
 
 1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build:
 # emerge gentoo-sources
 # cd /usr/src
 # rm -f linux
 # ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux
 # cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux

 Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/

yes. it's created by make menuconfig (or config / oldconfig / config).
I've never understood why it's hidden, I would have called it kernel.config.
There is also a live version that you can find in /proc/config but maybe 
you've got to compile something in kernel (or it's only for 2.6, I don't 
remember)

 2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver
 # cd /lib/modules
 # touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound
 (should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to
 backup them)
 # emerge alsa-driver

 I have not installed alsa-driver yet.  Gentoo 1.4 is without sound.
 At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the
 box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card.  The installation
 was interrupted unexpectedly.  I posted for assistance on this List and
 I was advised that I should install alsa-driver.  Therefore I just
 left it there incomplete.  Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module
 I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under
 /var/log/

follow the gentoo doc to install alsa-driver, it's easy and clear, as ever ;-)


 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the
  lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.

 What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7

Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the 
post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking cursor 
at bottom of screen.

but, I would do the following.

title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8

or in vi
/Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq
;-)

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