Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 18:03, Mark Bainter wrote: Arnold Krille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Saturday 29 March 2003 23:50, Paul de Vrieze wrote: For that login shells have been invented: su - Hmm, thanks! su -l didn't work... Incidentally, I still recommend you use sudo. Sudo gives you the benefit of not typing your root password. If you do the above, it's hardly more difficult to type 'sudo su -' to get your root shell, and if you enable password caching (or, in the case of desktops or similar systems NOPASSWD) you get to skip typing your password in at all at least part of the time. I think NOPASSWD is unsafe unless you run a host that is not on the net. Of course sudo is a better solution in cases where there is more than one person needing to be root (or accessing the box at all). Paul btw. sudo bash -login works too -- Paul de Vrieze Researcher Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On Saturday 29 March 2003 23:50, Paul de Vrieze wrote: For that login shells have been invented: su - Hmm, thanks! su -l didn't work... Arnold -- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so... pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On Saturday 29 March 2003 07:27, Abhishek Amit wrote: PS: I am not using sudo. perhaps I should but there is only me at the pc doing administrative tasks and root needs the standard-environment-variables not the ones of a user... I still use sudo. You'r proble may be fixed by putting source /etc/profile in .bashrc, which is what I do. I find it convinient What with variables the user is setting but root needs them not set? Currently I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get root from my k(!)onsole. It works great... And by this way the variables WANT_AUTOMAKE_* and co which the user has set are not set with root's. Arnold -- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so... pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | | What with variables the user is setting but root needs them not set? Currently | I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get root from my k(!)onsole. It works great... | And by this way the variables WANT_AUTOMAKE_* and co which the user has set | are not set with root's. | | Arnold No guarantees, because I haven't tested it, but can't you put 'unset WANT_AUTOMAKE_whatever' etc in /root/.bashrc and have them unset that way? Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+hYApX3TTUvZURBERAtmmAJ0YmRbk3phhQq4IySR3jwRAC9MZIQCfT2uG 0UdH5zuGHZzLPuUlUEoEH98= =O71s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On Saturday 29 March 2003 12:14, Andy Arbon wrote: | I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get root from my k(!)onsole. It works | great... And by this way the variables WANT_AUTOMAKE_* and co which the | user has set | are not set with root's. No guarantees, because I haven't tested it, but can't you put 'unset WANT_AUTOMAKE_whatever' etc in /root/.bashrc and have them unset that way? If unset would allow WANT_* it would be ok, otherwise I would have to look after all variables and unset unnecassary. Using ssh is easier... BTW: At least a am also not using su, itss just ssh... Arnold -- Hi, I am a .signature virus. Please copy me into your ~/.signature and send me to all your contacts. After a month or so log in as root and do a rm / -rf. Or ask your administrator to do so... pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On Saturday 29 March 2003 11:29, Arnold Krille wrote: What with variables the user is setting but root needs them not set? Currently I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get root from my k(!)onsole. It works great... And by this way the variables WANT_AUTOMAKE_* and co which the user has set are not set with root's. For that login shells have been invented: su - Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Researcher Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp0.pgp Description: signature
[gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
I use Mac OS -X (well, Jagwire) and I'm always using sudo instead of popping into su and out again. I've just installed sudo on Gentoo and configured wheel group as sudoers and used it to do something, and it instantly felt at home. I'm just wondering how many other people use sudo instead of su, and whether it should be perhaps included in a 'standard' install (by which I mean mentioned in the install docs). -- Ian Tindale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
On March 28, 2003, Ian Tindale sent me the following: I use Mac OS -X (well, Jagwire) and I'm always using sudo instead of popping into su and out again. I've just installed sudo on Gentoo and configured wheel group as sudoers and used it to do something, and it instantly felt at home. I'm just wondering how many other people use sudo instead of su, and whether it should be perhaps included in a 'standard' install (by which I mean mentioned in the install docs). I've been using it for years. I used to work at a small ISP where people who didn't know much had to create user accounts, so we just gave them limited sudo privs. Also, I felt a little better about having it so not everyone knew the root password. And the logging of commands is nice, so you know who to beat up when something breaks :) -- Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ GCM/CS d+(-) s+:++ a21? C++ UB$ P+++$ L- E--- W++ N@ o K- w O M+ V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ R@ tv@ b++@ DI D+(-) G++ e++ h++ r++ y? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
I'm just wondering how many other people use sudo instead of su, and whether it should be perhaps included in a 'standard' install (by which I mean mentioned in the install docs). I do. Nobody ever gets the root passwords. ;) The root pw can be changed via sudo if needed. sudo is a pretty useful tool, especially because of its logging capabilities. :) -jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who uses sudo?
PS: I am not using sudo. perhaps I should but there is only me at the pc doing administrative tasks and root needs the standard-environment-variables not the ones of a user... I still use sudo. You'r proble may be fixed by putting source /etc/profile in .bashrc, which is what I do. I find it convinient becuase it does not require a password. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
