Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Jordan Elver
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 19:24, Jordan Elver wrote:
> > Yeah, sorry I did mean 4.3.0-r3. I know that I have issued the
> > opengl-update ati command before to get the card working. But, what
> > exactly does it do?
>
> Changes the symlinks for GL libraries between xfree's, ati's, nvidia's,
> etc.

Oh, I see. That explains a lot.

> > > Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
> > > 4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
> > > major problems.
> >
> > Thanks. So, that basically packages up what's already installed so that I
> > can easily re-merge it in the future to save re-compiling the earlier
> > version. Is that correct?
>
> Yes.

I think I'll emerge it tomorrow. Fingers crossed :)

Thanks,
Jord


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 19:24, Jordan Elver wrote:
> Yeah, sorry I did mean 4.3.0-r3. I know that I have issued the opengl-update 
> ati command before to get the card working. But, what exactly does it do?

Changes the symlinks for GL libraries between xfree's, ati's, nvidia's,
etc.

> 
> > Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
> > 4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
> > major problems.
> 
> Thanks. So, that basically packages up what's already installed so that I can 
> easily re-merge it in the future to save re-compiling the earlier version. Is 
> that correct?

Yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Jordan Elver
Hi,

> What do you mean by "latest"? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
> 4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
> opengl-update xfree && opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
> that.

Yeah, sorry I did mean 4.3.0-r3. I know that I have issued the opengl-update 
ati command before to get the card working. But, what exactly does it do?

> Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
> 4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
> major problems.

Thanks. So, that basically packages up what's already installed so that I can 
easily re-merge it in the future to save re-compiling the earlier version. Is 
that correct?

Thanks for the reply,
Cheers, Jord


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 16:22, Tom Wesley wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 21:18, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:51, Jordan Elver wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
> > > to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
> > > what I already have. 
> > > 
> > > What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
> > > need to re-emerge ati-drivers?
> > 
> > What do you mean by "latest"? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
> > 4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
> > opengl-update xfree && opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
> > that.
> > 
> > Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
> > 4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
> > major problems.
> 
> I'm not sure, but I think quickpkg is broken.  I attempted to use it for
> some Mozilla problems I have.

Works for me. If you're having issues with it, please file a bug on
bugs.gentoo.org.

Jordan, BTW, might need emerge -k to get the binary to be used.


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 21:18, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:51, Jordan Elver wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
> > to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
> > what I already have. 
> > 
> > What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
> > need to re-emerge ati-drivers?
> 
> What do you mean by "latest"? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
> 4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
> opengl-update xfree && opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
> that.
> 
> Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
> 4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
> major problems.

I'm not sure, but I think quickpkg is broken.  I attempted to use it for
some Mozilla problems I have.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:51, Jordan Elver wrote:
> Hi,
> I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
> to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
> what I already have. 
> 
> What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
> need to re-emerge ati-drivers?

What do you mean by "latest"? 4.3.0-r3? If you're upgrading from
4.3.0-r2 to that, not much should change. At most, you may need to run
opengl-update xfree && opengl-update ati, but I wouldn't even expect
that.

Also, run 'quickpkg xfree' before upgrading to save a package of
4.3.0-r2. You can remerge that with emerge =xfree-4.3.0-r2 if you have
major problems.


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[gentoo-user] XFree upgrade

2003-10-22 Thread Jordan Elver
Hi,
I've recently got my Radeon 9500 working properly under a 2.6 kernel. I want 
to upgrade to the latest XFree but I *really* don't want to end up breaking 
what I already have. 

What steps do I need to take to reduce the probability of breakage? Will I 
need to re-emerge ati-drivers?

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 22:08, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Monday 06 October 2003 09:59 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:47, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to
> > > upgrade to release 3.
> > >
> > > What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do
> > > after I emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of
> > > some sort and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
> > >
> > > Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to
> > > make the upgrade a smooth one?
> > >
> > > Thank you, in advance.
> >
> > There shouldn't be any major problems in this upgrade. It has all the
> > latest fixes and I haven't encountered any real issues. If you use X
> > over TCP, you'll need to re-enable it after merging. It adds a Synaptics
> > touchpad driver, which allows them to work on 2.6 kernels and adds many
> > features on both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. There's also a significant number
> > of security fixes and bugfixes. The last significant addition is
> > potential building of the SDK with USE="sdk" or USE="gatos". This will
> > eventually allow us to update individual drivers without rebuilding
> > XFree.
> 
> That's great news. For some reason I remember something about fonts being 
> moved from one loadcation under /usr/X11R6 to somewhere else... 
> 
> Any thoughts on that one?
> 

My xfree-installed fonts reside in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, and
external fonts reside in /usr/share/fonts/.


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 06 October 2003 09:59 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:47, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to
> > upgrade to release 3.
> >
> > What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do
> > after I emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of
> > some sort and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
> >
> > Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to
> > make the upgrade a smooth one?
> >
> > Thank you, in advance.
>
> There shouldn't be any major problems in this upgrade. It has all the
> latest fixes and I haven't encountered any real issues. If you use X
> over TCP, you'll need to re-enable it after merging. It adds a Synaptics
> touchpad driver, which allows them to work on 2.6 kernels and adds many
> features on both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. There's also a significant number
> of security fixes and bugfixes. The last significant addition is
> potential building of the SDK with USE="sdk" or USE="gatos". This will
> eventually allow us to update individual drivers without rebuilding
> XFree.

That's great news. For some reason I remember something about fonts being 
moved from one loadcation under /usr/X11R6 to somewhere else... 

Any thoughts on that one?


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Kevin Miller, Jr.
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I upgraded to xfree today with no problem.  Forgot that it took that long to 
compile though:)

Kevin

On Tuesday 07 October 2003 01:47 am, Jerry McBride wrote:
> I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to
> upgrade to release 3.
>
> What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do after
> I emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of some
> sort and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
>
> Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to
> make the upgrade a smooth one?
>
> Thank you, in advance.
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:47, Jerry McBride wrote:
> I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to upgrade 
> to release 3.
> 
> What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do after I 
> emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of some sort 
> and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.
> 
> Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to make 
> the upgrade a smooth one?
> 
> Thank you, in advance.

There shouldn't be any major problems in this upgrade. It has all the
latest fixes and I haven't encountered any real issues. If you use X
over TCP, you'll need to re-enable it after merging. It adds a Synaptics
touchpad driver, which allows them to work on 2.6 kernels and adds many
features on both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. There's also a significant number
of security fixes and bugfixes. The last significant addition is
potential building of the SDK with USE="sdk" or USE="gatos". This will
eventually allow us to update individual drivers without rebuilding
XFree.


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[gentoo-user] XFREE upgrade...

2003-10-06 Thread Jerry McBride

I am currently running xfree86 4.30 r2 from portage and would like to upgrade 
to release 3.

What I'd like to know is, are there any additional steps I need to do after I 
emerge r3 into my gentoo box? I seem to recall r3 being a test of some sort 
and lost all memory of what was discussed on the matter.

Anyone running this version of xfree? Are there any additional steps to make 
the upgrade a smooth one?

Thank you, in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-31 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Stephen Boulet said:
> On Sunday 30 March 2003 08:12 am, Christian Aust wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
>> some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
>> initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
>> supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.
>>
>> Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems,
>> bugs, crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,

I would not recommend it having had several problems with it myself.  I
lost opengl at one point and couldn't get it back no matter what I did. 
Having spoken to one of the devs I learnt that there is a good chance they
will wait for the next release of xfree and nvidia drivers before marking
these stable.  It's a bold stance but quite well justified in my opinion.



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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-31 Thread Stephen Boulet
I've had issues with 4.3 and have gone back to 4.2.1.

1) winex won't work
2) some games like alpha centauri and tuxracer give me a "frequency over 
range" error from my monitor, despite the fact the the same config file works 
great with 4.2.1.

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 and there to here,
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On Sunday 30 March 2003 08:12 am, Christian Aust wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
> some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
> initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
> supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.
>
> Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs,
> crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,
>
> -  Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-30 Thread Sean
I know it's a bit off-topic, but how's the radeon 3d support these days.
I seem to recall it being quite lackluster for quite a while, and then
heard that ATI had gone the nvidia route with binary drivers. I
currently have an NVidia card, but have been considering picking up one
of the newer ATI Radeon cards. The big thing that's been holding me back
is that right now I have pretty solid driver support with the NVidia
card.

Anyway ... not trying to start a flame war, just looking for a bit of
info.

Thanks,

Sean

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:29, Tom Wesley wrote:
> On Sunday 30 March 2003 6:49 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > Is 4.3.0 unmasked yet - if not stick with what you have until it is.
> > Especially since you are happy with 4.2.1.
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
> > > some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
> > > initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
> > > supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.
> > >
> > > Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs,
> > > crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,
> > >
> > > -  Christian
> 
> I have found that 4.3.0 is much faster and more reliable with my Radeon 9000, 
> and it seems to work fine...
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-30 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sunday 30 March 2003 6:49 pm, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> Is 4.3.0 unmasked yet - if not stick with what you have until it is.
> Especially since you are happy with 4.2.1.
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
> > some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
> > initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
> > supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.
> >
> > Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs,
> > crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,
> >
> > -  Christian

I have found that 4.3.0 is much faster and more reliable with my Radeon 9000, 
and it seems to work fine...

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-30 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Is 4.3.0 unmasked yet - if not stick with what you have until it is.  
Especially since you are happy with 4.2.1.

> Hi,
>
> I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
> some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
> initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
> supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.
>
> Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs,
> crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,
>
> -  Christian

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[gentoo-user] xfree upgrade recommended?

2003-03-30 Thread Christian Aust
Hi,

I'm running xfree 4.2.1 right now, it works pretty smooth besides from
some issues with the graphic adapter (Radeon 7500 sometimes doesn't
initialize, screen stays black) and the power management (ACPI isn't
supported). But I'm particulary happy with font rendering.

Should I upgrade to xfree 4.3.0? Did you experience any problems, bugs,
crashes? Your feedback is very appreciated. Regards,

-  Christian



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