Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-20 Thread Matthew Kennedy
Ian Truelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> With the alsa modules now built into 2.6, should I load the snd_*
> modules with the alsasound init script or via the modules.autoload?

You may as well compile them in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:25:05 -0500
Bill Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Okay. However, when I load the alsasound script I get a series of
> > errors of which this one is representative:
> > 
> > * Loading snd_emu10k1
> > FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel.
> > 
> > I know they are built as modules. What is causing these errors?
> > 
> Don't listen to my advice, I have never actually gotten alsa to
> work, but... In 2.6, there are two ways of setting up ALSA.
> First, compile it in the kernel, in which case you don't need to
> load a module. Second, don't compile it in the kernel but as a
> module (use M instead of *), then load the module. There seems to
> be differing opinions on which method is less likely to fail.
> 
Fair enough. It does work though, even with all the errors. I build
everything that I can as modules, the system seems to think that they
are not, or something is loading them before the alsasound script does. 

I think I will accept them as aesthetic for the moment and try to revive
my glibc crippled box at the moment :( Always an adventure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Greg Donald
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Bill Roberts wrote:
| Don't listen to my advice, I have never actually gotten alsa to
| work, but...
It's not that hard, what specific problems did you have?

| In 2.6, there are two ways of setting up ALSA.
| First, compile it in the kernel, in which case you don't need to
| load a module. Second, don't compile it in the kernel but as a
| module (use M instead of *), then load the module.
Alsa is usually way more than one module.  This box for example is:

| lsmod|grep snd
snd-pcm-oss38788   0
snd-mixer-oss  13296   1 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-seq-midi3744   0 (autoclean) (unused)
snd-emu10k1-synth   4700   0 (autoclean) (unused)
snd-emux-synth 26972   0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1-synth]
snd-seq-midi-emul   4928   0 (autoclean) [snd-emux-synth]
snd-seq-virmidi 3048   0 (autoclean) [snd-emux-synth]
snd-emu10k172468   1 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1-synth]
snd-pcm59424   0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1]
snd-hwdep   4736   0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1]
snd-util-mem1296   0 (autoclean) [snd-emux-synth snd-emu10k1]
snd-page-alloc  6068   0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm]
snd-rawmidi12992   0 (autoclean) [snd-seq-midi
snd-seq-virmidi snd-emu10k1]
snd-ac97-codec 41272   0 (autoclean) [snd-emu10k1]
snd-seq-oss26656   0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event  3328   0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq38864   2 [snd-seq-midi snd-emux-synth
snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-timer  14436   0 [snd-pcm snd-seq]
snd-seq-device  4064   0 [snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-emux-synth snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi snd-seq-oss snd-seq]
snd32196   0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-seq-midi
snd-emux-synth snd-seq-virmidi snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-hwdep
snd-util-mem snd-rawmidi snd-ac97-codec snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event
snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device]
soundcore   3940  10 [snd]
| There seems to
| be differing opinions on which method is less likely to fail.
I've never had a real problem with it.  It's especially easy with the
Gentoo docs having spelled out every single command and all:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml#doc_chap5

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Bill Roberts
On 12:43 Mon 19 Jan , Ian Truelsen wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:56:00 +
> Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Monday 19 January 2004 19:37, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> > > With the alsa modules now built into 2.6, should I load the snd_*
> > > modules with the alsasound init script or via the modules.autoload?
> > 
> > The init script.
> > - From a module perspective nothing has changed. The modules are still
> > named the same, and end up in roughly the same place (depmod sorts out
> > the actual location)
> > 
> Okay. However, when I load the alsasound script I get a series of errors
> of which this one is representative:
> 
> * Loading snd_emu10k1
> FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel.
> 
> I know they are built as modules. What is causing these errors?
> 
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Don't listen to my advice, I have never actually gotten alsa to
work, but... In 2.6, there are two ways of setting up ALSA.
First, compile it in the kernel, in which case you don't need to
load a module. Second, don't compile it in the kernel but as a
module (use M instead of *), then load the module. There seems to
be differing opinions on which method is less likely to fail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:56:00 +
Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Monday 19 January 2004 19:37, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> > With the alsa modules now built into 2.6, should I load the snd_*
> > modules with the alsasound init script or via the modules.autoload?
> 
> The init script.
> - From a module perspective nothing has changed. The modules are still
> named the same, and end up in roughly the same place (depmod sorts out
> the actual location)
> 
Okay. However, when I load the alsasound script I get a series of errors
of which this one is representative:

* Loading snd_emu10k1
FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel.

I know they are built as modules. What is causing these errors?

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Monday 19 January 2004 19:37, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> With the alsa modules now built into 2.6, should I load the snd_*
> modules with the alsasound init script or via the modules.autoload?

The init script.
- From a module perspective nothing has changed. The modules are still named the 
same, and end up in roughly the same place (depmod sorts out the actual 
location)

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[gentoo-user] alsa and kernel 2.6 question

2004-01-19 Thread Ian Truelsen
With the alsa modules now built into 2.6, should I load the snd_*
modules with the alsasound init script or via the modules.autoload?

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