Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-06 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:18:56 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Do you get any error messages in any logs?
  
  Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and 
  rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my 
  saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the 
  modules-update.  Works fine.
  
 
 Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
 generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.
 

Finally found a decent workaround on forums.  alsasound does not work for some
(all?) sound cards unless the specific module (ens1371 in my case) is preloaded.
 Adding ens1371 to /etc/modules.autoload is the answer.

I did not find a reported bug, so I opened bugzilla #32880.

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[gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster PCI 64 (ens1371), but
it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no real answers on forum. 
Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I can't search there at
present.

1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as built in, but this does
not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not working.

2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little tinkering.

  a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as recommended, sound does
  not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... entries.

  b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as recommended, same
  results as for a.  A few extra dependancy complaints, since alsasound
  is design for executing at boot time.

  c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.

So, what I do for now is to add the following to /etc/conf.d/local.start

/etc/init.d/alsasound start
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
/etc/init.d/alsasound start

Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread brett holcomb
Do you get any error messages in any logs?

Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and 
rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my 
saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the 
modules-update.  Works fine.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:09:38 -0700
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster 
PCI 64 (ens1371), but
it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no 
real answers on forum. 
Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I 
can't search there at
present.

1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as 
built in, but this does
not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not 
working.

2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little 
tinkering.

  a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as 
recommended, sound does
  not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... 
entries.

  b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as 
recommended, same
  results as for a.  A few extra dependancy 
complaints, since alsasound
  is design for executing at boot time.

  c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue 
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.

So, what I do for now is to add the following to 
/etc/conf.d/local.start

/etc/init.d/alsasound start
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Do you get any error messages in any logs?
 
 Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and 
 rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my 
 saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the 
 modules-update.  Works fine.
 

Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll go 
for that!

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:18, you wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb
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 wrote:
  Do you get any error messages in any logs?
 
  Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and
  rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my
  saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the
  modules-update.  Works fine.

 Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
 generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll go 
 for that!
 
 On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:18, you wrote:
  On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:17:31 -0500 brett holcomb
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
   Do you get any error messages in any logs?
  
   Here, alsa has worked like a champ.  I build it (and
   rebuild if I do another kernel).  After that I copy my
   saved alsa file to /etc/modules.d and do the
   modules-update.  Works fine.
 
  Small note.  This is 2.6 kernel.  There is nothing to rebuild after
  generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.
 

Unless you have a very unusual configuration, it's rock solid now.  I've been on
board since 2.5.x (now 2.6.0_test8) without any glitches - several months.  I'm
sure this is in part due to the fact that I use plain ole ext3 instead of the
more adventuresome filesystems grin.  Even nvidia has updated their modules. 
2.6 is a lot more stable at this point than 2.4 was in its early stages.

Getting alsa support to work for my ens1371 has been the only problem, and that
is nothing new - never worked on for me on 2.4.  Now at least I have a workable
(if clumsy) solution. Prior to this on 2.4 and 2.6 I could only get the OSS
support for ens1371 to work.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Has Linus released it G.  I guess sometime I'll delve into but I get the 
idea it's still in development.   Right now I need to run and don't have time 
to mess with it - maybe later on.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 19:16, you wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Ahha - I'm on 2.4.x series.  When 2.6,7, or whatever is stable then I'll
  go for that!
   generating a kernel.  alsa is now a part of the kernel tree.

 Unless you have a very unusual configuration, it's rock solid now.  I've
 been on board since 2.5.x (now 2.6.0_test8) without any glitches - several
 months.  I'm sure this is in part due to the fact that I use plain ole ext3
 instead of the more adventuresome filesystems grin.  Even nvidia has
 updated their modules. 2.6 is a lot more stable at this point than 2.4 was
 in its early stages.

 Getting alsa support to work for my ens1371 has been the only problem, and
 that is nothing new - never worked on for me on 2.4.  Now at least I have a
 workable (if clumsy) solution. Prior to this on 2.4 and 2.6 I could only
 get the OSS support for ens1371 to work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:15 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Has Linus released it G.  I guess sometime I'll delve into but I get the 
 idea it's still in development.   Right now I need to run and don't have time 
 to mess with it - maybe later on.
 

Yeah, he releases it every few weeks grin.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Collins Richey wrote:
I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster PCI 64 (ens1371), but
it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no real answers on forum. 
Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I can't search there at
present.

1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as built in, but this does
not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not working.
2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little tinkering.

  a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as recommended, sound does
  not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... entries.
  b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as recommended, same
  results as for a.  A few extra dependancy complaints, since alsasound
  is design for executing at boot time.
  c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.
So, what I do for now is to add the following to /etc/conf.d/local.start
Do not do this.  Only do:
$ rc-update add alsasound boot
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
/etc/init.d/alsasound stop
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.

Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?

Steps to get ALSA to work in 2.6 kernel.

(1) Enable all ALSA related options in kernel.
(2) Boot off newly compiled kernel.
(3) Unmute channels (I use gkrellm-volume plugin to do this)
Look here for screenshot of gkrellm-volume control if you like.
http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/images/gkv.png (left-centre)
There is no compelling need to emerge anything alsa-related at all.  The 
only problem is saving your volume levels on shutdown and restoring them on 
startup and that can be done using:

$ alsactl store (put this in /etc/conf.d/local.stop)
$ alsactl restore (put this in /etc/conf.d/local.start)
Then you are sorted.  I myself prefer not to emerge anything alsa related as 
 there is no need and that way your system does not get the dreaded 
libasound.la library against which many packages begin to compile and depend 
upon.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Well I'll wait then G.

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 19:50, you wrote:
 On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:26:15 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb
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 wrote:
  Has Linus released it G.  I guess sometime I'll delve into but I get
  the idea it's still in development.   Right now I need to run and don't
  have time to mess with it - maybe later on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problems on kernel 2.6.0-test8

2003-11-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:34:50 + Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Collins Richey wrote:
  I have finally gotten alsa to work for my SoundBlaster PCI 64 (ens1371), but
  it's still a bit hokey.  I've seen a few reports but no real answers on
  forum. Maybe someone knows the answer.  Bugzilla is down, so I can't search
  there at present.
  
  1. You should be able to compile the 2.6 alsa modules as built in, but this
  does not work.  The kernel reports that the soundcard is not working.
  
  2.  Alsa compiled as modules does work with a little tinkering.
  
a.  If I add alsasound to the boot level scripts as recommended, sound
does
not work.  Devfsd does not build the /dev/dsp ... entries.
  
b.  If I add alsasound to the default level scripts as recommended, same
results as for a.  A few extra dependancy complaints, since alsasound
is design for executing at boot time.
  
c.  After either of these approaches, if I issue /etc/init.d/alsasound
stop
and then /etc/init.d/alsasound start, sound works.
  
  So, what I do for now is to add the following to /etc/conf.d/local.start
 
 Do not do this.  Only do:
 $ rc-update add alsasound boot

You didn't read my report closely enough!  THIS DOES NOT WORK.  If I add
alsasound to the boot runlevel then reboot, alsasound starts but the sound card
IS NOT WORKING.  Read that line again.  After doing only this much, devfsd has
not generated the /dev/dsp etc. entries, so I can't unmute the sound card!  I
have to stop alsasound and start it again for the sound card to work.  All the
apropriate modules are loaded the first time, but the soundcard DOES NOT WORK
and /dev/dsp ... are not generated until I stop and start alsasound again.
 
  
  /etc/init.d/alsasound start
  /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
  /etc/init.d/alsasound start
  
  Messy (lots of dependancy errors) , but it works.
  
  Does anyone have a clue how to fix this POS?
  
 
 Steps to get ALSA to work in 2.6 kernel.
 
 (1) Enable all ALSA related options in kernel.
 (2) Boot off newly compiled kernel.

All this has been done, except that I haven't compiled the PCI modules for sound
cards that I do not have.

 (3) Unmute channels (I use gkrellm-volume plugin to do this)
 

See above.  THIS DOES NOT WORK without stopping and starting alsasound again.

 Look here for screenshot of gkrellm-volume control if you like.
 http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/images/gkv.png (left-centre)
 
 There is no compelling need to emerge anything alsa-related at all.  The 
 only problem is saving your volume levels on shutdown and restoring them on 
 startup and that can be done using:
 

I haven't emerged anything alsa-related.

 $ alsactl store (put this in /etc/conf.d/local.stop)
 $ alsactl restore (put this in /etc/conf.d/local.start)
 

This doesn't work either.

 Then you are sorted.  

Unfortunately not.


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