Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-14 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
> "Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
 
  

> > >
> > > This is my cat cpuinfo
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
> > > processor   : 0
> > > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > > cpu family  : 6
> > > model   : 6
> > > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
> > > stepping: 2
> > > cpu MHz : 1110.953
> > > cache size  : 256 KB
> > > fdiv_bug: no
> > > hlt_bug : no
> > > f00f_bug: no
> > > coma_bug: no
> > > fpu : yes
> > > fpu_exception   : yes
> > > cpuid level : 1
> > > wp  : yes
> > > flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> > > mca cmov
> > > pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> > > bogomips: 2215.11
> > >
> > >
> > > I was expecting something more like this
> > >
> > >
> > > cat /proc/cpuinfo:
> > >
> > > processor   : 0
> > > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > > cpu family  : 6
> > > model   : 6
> > > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
> > > stepping: 2
> > > cpu MHz : 1533.411
> > > cache size  : 256 KB
> > > fdiv_bug: no
> > > hlt_bug : no
> > > f00f_bug: no
> > > coma_bug: no
> > > fpu : yes
> > > fpu_exception   : yes
> > > cpuid level : 1
> > > wp  : yes
> > > flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
> > >   cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
> > >   3dnow
> > > bogomips: 3060.53
> >
> > yeah. I bet you have a fsb of 100MHZ.
> > XP needs an FSB of 133MHZ.
>
> I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if I
> increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model name
> : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?

It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the machine: 
with FSB of 100MHz it showed "Athlon 1100MHz", with FSB of 133MHz it shows 
"AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+".


Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-14 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 19:32, Robert Young wrote:
> "Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
> > > I was told this CPU was an XP by my vendor. Why does it not say in the
> > > model name that it is an XP see cat cpuinfo bellow.
> > >
> > > It is currently running redhat and I would like to install Gentoo on it
> > > but I am wondering which optimization flags I should use?
> > >
> > > I was hoping
> > >
> > >
> > > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > > CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > >
> > > would be safe and
> >
> > -O2 is safe.
> >
> > > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3
> > > -pipe -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
> > > -frerun-cse-after-loop
> > > -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
> > > -ffast-math
> > > -fprefetch-loop-arrays"
> > > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> >
> > is simply mad. Read man gcc
>
> http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3opt.html
>

only because it is on a website does not make it true.

read man gcc. Read the warning, Think about the flags again.

I suffered enough. Thank you.

> I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if I
> increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model name
>
> : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?

yes.

My AMD Athlon XP 2000+ was an Athlon Xp 1600, 1500 or Athlon 1200, with 
different FSBs

Glück Auf
Volker























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[gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Young
I was told this CPU was an XP by my vendor. Why does it not say in the
model name that it is an XP see cat cpuinfo bellow.

It is currently running redhat and I would like to install Gentoo on it
but I am wondering which optimization flags I should use?

I was hoping


CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"

would be safe and

CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3
-pipe -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
-frerun-cse-after-loop
-frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
-ffast-math
-fprefetch-loop-arrays"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

would be pushing the limit.


Thanks in advance.

This is my cat cpuinfo

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1110.953
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov
pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 2215.11


I was expecting something more like this


cat /proc/cpuinfo:

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1533.411
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
  cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
  3dnow
bogomips: 3060.53



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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
> I was told this CPU was an XP by my vendor. Why does it not say in the
> model name that it is an XP see cat cpuinfo bellow.
>
> It is currently running redhat and I would like to install Gentoo on it
> but I am wondering which optimization flags I should use?
>
> I was hoping
>
>
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
>
> would be safe and

-O2 is safe.

>
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3
> -pipe -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
> -frerun-cse-after-loop
> -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
> -ffast-math
> -fprefetch-loop-arrays"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

is simply mad. Read man gcc

> Thanks in advance.
>
> This is my cat cpuinfo
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
> processor   : 0
> vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 6
> model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
> stepping: 2
> cpu MHz : 1110.953
> cache size  : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov
> pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> bogomips: 2215.11
>
>
> I was expecting something more like this
>
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo:
>
> processor   : 0
> vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 6
> model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
> stepping: 2
> cpu MHz : 1533.411
> cache size  : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
>   cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
>   3dnow
> bogomips: 3060.53


yeah. I bet you have a fsb of 100MHZ.
XP needs an FSB of 133MHZ.

Glück Auf,
Volker


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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Young
Yep

It seems to be working as advertised. I guess I have been under utilizing this
machine for the last wile.


Thanks for all the help.

Although I am still interested in knowing if the march can be athlon-xp even when
the cpu is not reporting that it is an XP.
Renat Golubchyk wrote:

> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:48, Robert Young wrote:
> > So
> >
> > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp  is Ok regardless or the FSB speed?
> >
>
> I don't know, but I would change the FSB anyway. It can only become faster
> (assuming your hardware is not faulty and supports it without problem). So,
> check your BIOS settings and tell us whether it works as intended.
>
> Cheers,
> Renat
>
> > Renat Golubchyk wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
> > > > "Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >
>   
> > > > I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if
> > > > I increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model
> > > > name
> > > >
> > > > : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?
> > >
> > > It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the
> > > machine: with FSB of 100MHz it showed "Athlon 1100MHz", with FSB of
> > > 133MHz it shows "AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+".
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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:48, Robert Young wrote:
> So
>
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp  is Ok regardless or the FSB speed?
>

I don't know, but I would change the FSB anyway. It can only become faster 
(assuming your hardware is not faulty and supports it without problem). So, 
check your BIOS settings and tell us whether it works as intended.


Cheers,
Renat


> Renat Golubchyk wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
> > > "Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
> >
> >   
> >
  
> > > I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if
> > > I increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model
> > > name
> > >
> > > : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?
> >
> > It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the
> > machine: with FSB of 100MHz it showed "Athlon 1100MHz", with FSB of
> > 133MHz it shows "AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+".


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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Young


"Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:

> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
> > I was told this CPU was an XP by my vendor. Why does it not say in the
> > model name that it is an XP see cat cpuinfo bellow.
> >
> > It is currently running redhat and I would like to install Gentoo on it
> > but I am wondering which optimization flags I should use?
> >
> > I was hoping
> >
> >
> > CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> > CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> >
> > would be safe and
>
> -O2 is safe.
>
> >
> > CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -m3dnow -msse -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -O3
> > -pipe -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
> > -frerun-cse-after-loop
> > -frerun-loop-opt -falign-functions=4 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
> > -ffast-math
> > -fprefetch-loop-arrays"
> > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
>
> is simply mad. Read man gcc

http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3opt.html

>
>
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > This is my cat cpuinfo
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
> > processor   : 0
> > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > cpu family  : 6
> > model   : 6
> > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
> > stepping: 2
> > cpu MHz : 1110.953
> > cache size  : 256 KB
> > fdiv_bug: no
> > hlt_bug : no
> > f00f_bug: no
> > coma_bug: no
> > fpu : yes
> > fpu_exception   : yes
> > cpuid level : 1
> > wp  : yes
> > flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> > mca cmov
> > pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> > bogomips: 2215.11
> >
> >
> > I was expecting something more like this
> >
> >
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo:
> >
> > processor   : 0
> > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > cpu family  : 6
> > model   : 6
> > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
> > stepping: 2
> > cpu MHz : 1533.411
> > cache size  : 256 KB
> > fdiv_bug: no
> > hlt_bug : no
> > f00f_bug: no
> > coma_bug: no
> > fpu : yes
> > fpu_exception   : yes
> > cpuid level : 1
> > wp  : yes
> > flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
> >   cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
> >   3dnow
> > bogomips: 3060.53
>
> yeah. I bet you have a fsb of 100MHZ.
> XP needs an FSB of 133MHZ.

I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying if I
increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model name
: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?

>
>
> Glück Auf,
> Volker
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Re: [gentoo-user] cat cpuinfo /CFLAGS - is it realy an XP?

2003-08-06 Thread Robert Young


So
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp  is Ok regardless or the FSB speed?
Renat Golubchyk wrote:
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:32, Robert Young wrote:
> "Hemmann, Volker Armin" wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 18:10, Robert Young wrote:
  
> > >
> > > This is my cat cpuinfo
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# cat cpuinfo
> > > processor   : 0
> > > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > > cpu family  : 6
> > > model  
: 6
> > > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
> > > stepping    : 2
> > > cpu MHz : 1110.953
> > > cache size  : 256 KB
> > > fdiv_bug    : no
> > > hlt_bug : no
> > > f00f_bug    : no
> > > coma_bug    : no
> > > fpu
: yes
> > > fpu_exception   : yes
> > > cpuid level : 1
> > > wp 
: yes
> > > flags  
: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> > > mca cmov
> > > pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> > > bogomips    : 2215.11
> > >
> > >
> > > I was expecting something more like this
> > >
> > >
> > > cat /proc/cpuinfo:
> > >
> > > processor   : 0
> > > vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> > > cpu family  : 6
> > > model  
: 6
> > > model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP
1800+
> > > stepping    : 2
> > > cpu MHz : 1533.411
> > > cache size  : 256 KB
> > > fdiv_bug    : no
> > > hlt_bug : no
> > > f00f_bug    : no
> > > coma_bug    : no
> > > fpu
: yes
> > > fpu_exception   : yes
> > > cpuid level : 1
> > > wp 
: yes
> > > flags  
: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca
> > >  
cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext
> > >  
3dnow
> > > bogomips    : 3060.53
> >
> > yeah. I bet you have a fsb of 100MHZ.
> > XP needs an FSB of 133MHZ.
>
> I believe my FSB speed is configurable (In the BIOS). Are you saying
if I
> increase it to 133 cat cpuinfo | grep modelname will give me "model
name
> : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+" or something similar?
It should. At least mine did. I could see it even while booting the
machine:
with FSB of 100MHz it showed "Athlon 1100MHz", with FSB of 133MHz it
shows
"AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+".
Cheers,
Renat
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