Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head X config
Paul Kimberley wrote: I'm not a XConfig expert but my guess is that you don't have any modes defined for Depth 16bpp on Screen0. It looks like you have screen0 setup only to do 8bpp On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 20:53, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I have a dual-head setup. I used 'X -configure' to get the basics and then changed a few things. Whenever I try to change the color depth, I get a hard-lock when I try to start X. I want to both screens at 16bpp. Does anyone see anything wrong? Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" <= Depth 16 EndSubSection <= SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection I did have modes there, but it didn't matter much. If I specify 'DefaultDepth 16' or 'DefaultDepth 24', the system hard-locks. The weird thing is that 16- or 24-bpp work with the ATI card and 16-bpp works with the other. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head X config
I'm not a XConfig expert but my guess is that you don't have any modes defined for Depth 16bpp on Screen0. It looks like you have screen0 setup only to do 8bpp On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 20:53, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I have a dual-head setup. I used 'X -configure' to get the basics and then changed a > few > things. Whenever I try to change the color depth, I get a hard-lock when I try to > start X. > I want to both screens at 16bpp. Does anyone see anything wrong? > Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display"<= Depth 16 EndSubSection <= SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual-head X config
I have a dual-head setup. I used 'X -configure' to get the basics and then changed a few things. Whenever I try to change the color depth, I get a hard-lock when I try to start X. I want to both screens at 16bpp. Does anyone see anything wrong? -- Andrew Gaffney Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "glx" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "imps/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "NEC" ModelName"NEC A700" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName"Monitor Model" HorizSync30-35 VertRefresh 50-90 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "ForcePCIMode" # [] #Option "CCEPIOMode"# [] #Option "CCENoSecurity" # [] #Option "CCEusecTimeout"# #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize"# #Option "Display" # #Option "PanelWidth"# #Option "PanelHeight" # #Option "ProgramFPRegs" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "ShowCache" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Rage 128 SM/4x AGP 4x" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "MMIO" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "Rotate"# [] #Option "MemCFG1" # #Option "MemCFG2" # Identifier "Card1" Driver "cirrus" VendorName "Cirrus Logic" BoardName "GD 5446" BusID "PCI:0:9:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Card1" Monitor"Monitor1" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Dept
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Lucas Sallovitz wrote: Larry Meadors wrote: ..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ The problem with that is that AFAIK, X can handle different resolutions but not different colordepths. I learned that when I wanted to put an old vga card next to a TNT2 When you would try to do it with different colordepths, would your box lock hard? Mine seems to lock hard (no keyboard, 3-finger salute, etc.) unless I remove the 'DefaultDepth' line for both cards so it defaults to 8-bit. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
I would like to view your config file, if possible. I'm trying to set twinview up to run a program (mythtv) over the TV-OUT on my card, while maintaining my normal display. My Card can do this (it's in the Windows-drivers), do I hope to get it running on Linux. On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 04:43, Andrew Cowie wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 07:54, Alan wrote: > > > As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one > > > instance of x, with a wider screen. > > > > I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of > > xinerama) > > Nvidia seems to offer a best-of-both-worlds solution; using what they > called "TwinView" I've got a 2560x 1024 desktop (across two 1280x1024 > montitors) but Nvidia implemented the Xinerama extension (NOTE! You > don't use -xinerama on the X command line!) Xinerama information is > available to clients (ie the window manager) that need to know. > > Xinerama support across the X software universe is still a bit spotty, > but, notably, one of the major internal enhancements in GNOME 2.4 was > much better support here; in almost all cases it "does the right thing" > - in particular, maximize goes to a single monitor, not across the whole > two monitor desktop, and GDM puts its login window on one monitor, not > spread across two (and thus centered rught in the gap between two, which > would be really annoying. Xscreensaver is notable in that any hack which > tries to center itself looks a bit dumb as it will be centered in the > air gap between two monitors... > > ... so this is all to say that having XINERAMA (and one X server) seems > better than not, and two independent X servers (plus, presumably, > x2x)... > > > , but I understand that it can be set up with a second X > > running if it's desired. > > For both setups, extensive documentation is available in > /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-1.0./README.gz [though the "run two X > servers" isn't recommended because then you a) don't get they're built > in Xinerama, and, more importantly, you don't get 3D hardware accel on > both monitors]. > > This is all on a [in this case PNY] GForce FX5200 [PCI dual VGA] card. > YMMV. > > > No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure > > there's info in the web forums though. > > I can make my XF86Config available if someone needs a specific example. > > Cheers, > > AfC -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 07:54, Alan wrote: > > As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one > > instance of x, with a wider screen. > > I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of > xinerama) Nvidia seems to offer a best-of-both-worlds solution; using what they called "TwinView" I've got a 2560x 1024 desktop (across two 1280x1024 montitors) but Nvidia implemented the Xinerama extension (NOTE! You don't use -xinerama on the X command line!) Xinerama information is available to clients (ie the window manager) that need to know. Xinerama support across the X software universe is still a bit spotty, but, notably, one of the major internal enhancements in GNOME 2.4 was much better support here; in almost all cases it "does the right thing" - in particular, maximize goes to a single monitor, not across the whole two monitor desktop, and GDM puts its login window on one monitor, not spread across two (and thus centered rught in the gap between two, which would be really annoying. Xscreensaver is notable in that any hack which tries to center itself looks a bit dumb as it will be centered in the air gap between two monitors... ... so this is all to say that having XINERAMA (and one X server) seems better than not, and two independent X servers (plus, presumably, x2x)... > , but I understand that it can be set up with a second X > running if it's desired. For both setups, extensive documentation is available in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-1.0./README.gz [though the "run two X servers" isn't recommended because then you a) don't get they're built in Xinerama, and, more importantly, you don't get 3D hardware accel on both monitors]. This is all on a [in this case PNY] GForce FX5200 [PCI dual VGA] card. YMMV. > No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure > there's info in the web forums though. I can make my XF86Config available if someone needs a specific example. Cheers, AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd We focus on improving usabilty, scalabilty, and maintainability - the factors that are the keys to making technology work - through team building, creating effective procedures, and enhancing systems performance. Contact us! http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ Sydney, New York, Toronto, London -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:25:10PM -0400, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > > I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason > > for me to > > kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because > > there > > are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor > > and be > > getting my work done on the smaller done. > > As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one > instance of x, with a wider screen. I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of xinerama), but I understand that it can be set up with a second X running if it's desired. No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure there's info in the web forums though. alan -- Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://arcterex.net "There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games."-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Andrew Gaffney wrote: I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. Is there something special I need to do in order to make this work? I have the console running on the small monitor and X running on the large, but each monitor blanks when I switch to the other. How can I prevent this? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Larry Meadors wrote: ..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ The problem with that is that AFAIK, X can handle different resolutions but not different colordepths. I learned that when I wanted to put an old vga card next to a TNT2 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
> I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for > me to > kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because > there > are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and > be > getting my work done on the smaller done. As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one instance of x, with a wider screen. Jeff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
Larry Meadors wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 8:52 AM >>> I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17" attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15" monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? > ..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller > one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ I will only be doing text-based work on the smaller monitor. There is no reason for me to kill resources running X twice. I have a problem of not getting work done because there are DVDs I'd rather watch. This way, I can have a movie going on the big monitor and be getting my work done on the smaller done. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head
..or you could use X on both. With a maximized terminal in the smaller one. Probably a simpler setup. :-/ >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 8:52 AM >>> I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17" attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15" monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual-head
I've finally figured out a use for my 2 video cards and monitors. I have a nice 17" attached to an AGP ATI Rage 128 (I say this like I should be proud of it) and a circa 1994 CTX 15" monitor hooked to a generic SiS card. What I want to do is run the console from my small monitor with a 800x600 fb and run X on the big monitor. This should be as simple as making sure my BIOS sees my PCI card first and making sure X knows that its looking for the AGP ATI card, correct? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
Andrew Cowie wrote: On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote: As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks. The canonical reference is: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ That thread was a month and a half ago! Anyway, thanks for the link :) -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:03, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks. The canonical reference is: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ Cheers, AfC -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd Australia: +61 2 9977 6866 http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] dual-head, dual-user question
> > > googled and found this: > > http://www.ssc.com/pipermail/linux-list/1999-November/043249.html > That's a great help. Thanks Corey! - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head, dual-user question
googled and found this: http://www.ssc.com/pipermail/linux-list/1999-November/043249.html On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 16:46, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >I think this should be quite possible with a tricky bit of configuration. > >If I had a single PC with a dual head graphics adapter, and then two > keyboards and two mice (possibly one mouse and keyboard are USB, or possibly > both) should it be possible to take a single fast machine and let two > non-performance oriented users 'share' the machine? > >If this was to work I'd need the linking of monitor, mouse and keyboard > to be bullet proof, such that logging on at Keyboard A, independent of what > the user ID was, would always correctly show up on the monitor in front of > keyboard A and would always use mouse A. Both heads must be able to run X, > and if possible I want both to run different Window environments if > possible. (Say KDE and fluxbox at the same time on different monitors, but > this is not an absolute requirement.) > >Where would the keyboards and mice go? On separate USB ports to keep > everything straight at boot time? I assume that either startx and/or > .xinitrc could be set up to let one keyboard/mouse & user use a specific > display. In their case they will always sit down at the same keyboards. > (They won't trade.) > >My 70+ year old parents with absolutely zero Linux experience are the > target audience for this idea. This was their request. They got quite burned > recently from a windows Virus problem. I would manage the machine remotely, > which I already do with their Windows boxes and PC Anywhere. > >Any and all ideas much appreciated. Pointers to working examples are > certainly best. Any problems you know abut this sort of system would be > interesting. > > thanks, > Mark > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual-head, dual-user question
Hi, I think this should be quite possible with a tricky bit of configuration. If I had a single PC with a dual head graphics adapter, and then two keyboards and two mice (possibly one mouse and keyboard are USB, or possibly both) should it be possible to take a single fast machine and let two non-performance oriented users 'share' the machine? If this was to work I'd need the linking of monitor, mouse and keyboard to be bullet proof, such that logging on at Keyboard A, independent of what the user ID was, would always correctly show up on the monitor in front of keyboard A and would always use mouse A. Both heads must be able to run X, and if possible I want both to run different Window environments if possible. (Say KDE and fluxbox at the same time on different monitors, but this is not an absolute requirement.) Where would the keyboards and mice go? On separate USB ports to keep everything straight at boot time? I assume that either startx and/or .xinitrc could be set up to let one keyboard/mouse & user use a specific display. In their case they will always sit down at the same keyboards. (They won't trade.) My 70+ year old parents with absolutely zero Linux experience are the target audience for this idea. This was their request. They got quite burned recently from a windows Virus problem. I would manage the machine remotely, which I already do with their Windows boxes and PC Anywhere. Any and all ideas much appreciated. Pointers to working examples are certainly best. Any problems you know abut this sort of system would be interesting. thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
It is rumored that on Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:18:09 -0500 Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just installed a 2nd video card in my box and hooked up a 2nd monitor. > Now, what cool things can I do? :) I was thinking about using the 2nd > monitor to extend my X desktop, but I don't know if that will work. My > primary is a nice 17" that I run at 1024x768. The 2nd one is a wimpy 15" > that can do 1024x768 but looks much better at 800x600. Can you mix and > match resolutions like that? > Yes you can, and I do that exactly. To make sure there are no dead spaces, I used a Virtual line in XFConfig to make X think the monitor is bigger (and the same size as my bigger monitor) that it is. You can pan around the extra space by moving to the edge of the monitor. Take a look at my XFConfig attached, particularly the server layout section and the screens sections. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968) XF86Config Description: Binary data -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 18:18, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I just installed a 2nd video card in my box and hooked up a 2nd monitor. > Now, what cool things can I do? :) I was thinking about using the 2nd > monitor to extend my X desktop, but I don't know if that will work. My > primary is a nice 17" that I run at 1024x768. The 2nd one is a wimpy 15" > that can do 1024x768 but looks much better at 800x600. Can you mix and > match resolutions like that? (Not a reply really, but related). Does anyone know of any good howtos for setting up Xinerama on a dual-head Radeon 8500? (Yes I've tried Google, and it's helped but obviously not completely) My config works once in a while, but obviously isn't quite correct because it doesn't always work, and never has worked as expected (i.e. I've not been able to correctly get the correct monitor to be monitor 1, monitor 2, etc., plus it's messed up stuff like fonts so that I have to switch between 6 and 8 pt. all the time) Here's my XF86Config: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Xinerama" "true" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "Buttons" "6" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName"Monitor Model" HorizSync30 - 96.0 VertRefresh 75 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Dell" ModelName"D1025TM" HorizSync30 - 85.0 VertRefresh 65 EndSection Section "Device" Option "AGPMode""4" Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Option "AGPMode""4" Identifier "Card1" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Card1" Monitor"Monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Monitor0 is a Sony MultiscanG200, plugged into the DVI port with the little VGA-DVI adapter and generally it's worked fine despite config file changes. Monitor1 is a Dell D1025TM, plugged into the VGA, and whatever I do to change the config file it gives me an 'OUT OF SCAN RANGE' error. Any help y'all can give me is much appreciated- rare that something works so easily in Windows but gives me all this Linux trouble... :( Also, does anyone know if DRI is supported with Xinerama on the Radeons in any of the XFree snapshots or in CVS? Not really necessary, because I can just switch to singlehead to game, but it would be nice to not have to do that. Bob Raymond -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
Andrew Farmer wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:18:09 -0700, Andrew Gaffney muttered: I just installed a 2nd video card in my box and hooked up a 2nd monitor. Now, what cool things can I do? :) I was thinking about using the 2nd monitor to extend my X desktop, but I don't know if that will work. My primary is a nice 17" that I run at 1024x768. The 2nd one is a wimpy 15" that can do 1024x768 but looks much better at 800x600. Can you mix and match resolutions like that? Yes, but it can get very messy. There are three ways I know of to have X deal with multiple monitors -- one is to run X on just one of them (and ignore the others), another is to have it use them as separate "screens" (which few programs truly support), and a third is to use Xinerama. Xinerama merges multiple monitors to make them appear like one big one. The problem is that differing resolutions act strangely -- they'll create a dead space. For example: +-+ ? ? ? ? ? ? | |? ? ? ? ? ? | +---+ | 1024x768 | | | | 800x600 | | | | +-+---+ Note that some "dead space" exists above the smaller monitor. Windows can exist in this space -- in some cases, your WM will even *place* windows there -- but it won't appear on any of your monitors. And it'll probably interact strangely with graphic acceleration. I'd advise you to just dump the second monitor and run the first at a higher resolution ;-) I run my 19" at 1600x1200 and use big fonts. Works For Me. Another thing I've thought of is using the wimpy one for console and the big one for X. Although, I can't think of much use for this beyond having something compiling so I can watch it on the wimpy one. As for Xinerama, can any recommend a good doc on setting it up? Thanks. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:18:09 -0700, Andrew Gaffney muttered: > I just installed a 2nd video card in my box and hooked up a 2nd monitor. > Now, what cool things can I do? :) I was thinking about using the 2nd > monitor to extend my X desktop, but I don't know if that will work. My > primary is a nice 17" that I run at 1024x768. The 2nd one is a wimpy 15" > that can do 1024x768 but looks much better at 800x600. Can you mix and > match resolutions like that? Yes, but it can get very messy. There are three ways I know of to have X deal with multiple monitors -- one is to run X on just one of them (and ignore the others), another is to have it use them as separate "screens" (which few programs truly support), and a third is to use Xinerama. Xinerama merges multiple monitors to make them appear like one big one. The problem is that differing resolutions act strangely -- they'll create a dead space. For example: +-+ ? ? ? ? ? ? | |? ? ? ? ? ? | +---+ | 1024x768 | | | | 800x600 | | | | +-+---+ Note that some "dead space" exists above the smaller monitor. Windows can exist in this space -- in some cases, your WM will even *place* windows there -- but it won't appear on any of your monitors. And it'll probably interact strangely with graphic acceleration. I'd advise you to just dump the second monitor and run the first at a higher resolution ;-) I run my 19" at 1600x1200 and use big fonts. Works For Me. -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] dual-head setup
I just installed a 2nd video card in my box and hooked up a 2nd monitor. Now, what cool things can I do? :) I was thinking about using the 2nd monitor to extend my X desktop, but I don't know if that will work. My primary is a nice 17" that I run at 1024x768. The 2nd one is a wimpy 15" that can do 1024x768 but looks much better at 800x600. Can you mix and match resolutions like that? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Frank R Callaghan wrote: >I have been trying to get a Matrox 450 to run two ViewSonic 17 >on my new gentoo system with no luck :( the card gets detected correctly >the framebuffers allocated fb0, fb1 I have edited XF86Config as >per instructions found on the web but initially starting kdm the two >screens are just copies, after switching to a terminal and back to X >the first terminal returns the second is black ! >I guess I'm missing something here - Is there a step-by-step setup that >works for gentoo somewhere ?, any suggestions ? I have a G450 running in Dual head mode. My XF86Config file is available at: http://24.169.2.45/~chrisf/XF86Config-4 Let me know if you have any issues converting it. Christopher Fisk -- SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH SPITWADS ARE NOT FREE SPEECH Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 8F01 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 28 August 2003 08:53, Frank R Callaghan wrote: > Hi, > > I have been trying to get a Matrox 450 to run two ViewSonic 17 > on my new gentoo system with no luck :( the card gets detected correctly > the framebuffers allocated fb0, fb1 I have edited XF86Config as > per instructions found on the web but initially starting kdm the two > screens are just copies, after switching to a terminal and back to X > the first terminal returns the second is black ! > I guess I'm missing something here - Is there a step-by-step setup that > works for gentoo somewhere ?, any suggestions ? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=60278 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Tmw3XVaO67S1rtsRAlKvAJ9RDgBPNMOV8QQvQrVDPbUghuGjKgCguq70 I5qRoVxVn60rmNqyw/Q6XBY= =WJOo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head setup
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 08:53, Frank R Callaghan wrote: > I have been trying to get a Matrox 450 to run two ViewSonic 17 > on my new gentoo system with no luck :( the card gets detected correctly > the framebuffers allocated fb0, fb1 I have edited XF86Config as > per instructions found on the web but initially starting kdm the two > screens are just copies, after switching to a terminal and back to X > the first terminal returns the second is black ! > I guess I'm missing something here - Is there a step-by-step setup that > works for gentoo somewhere ?, any suggestions ? i don't know of a step by step setup, but if you send along your X config, i might be able to help -- but what do we mean by the american Revolution? do we mean the american war? the Revolution was in effect before the war commenced. the Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people. - john adams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual-head setup
Hi, I have been trying to get a Matrox 450 to run two ViewSonic 17 on my new gentoo system with no luck :( the card gets detected correctly the framebuffers allocated fb0, fb1 I have edited XF86Config as per instructions found on the web but initially starting kdm the two screens are just copies, after switching to a terminal and back to X the first terminal returns the second is black ! I guess I'm missing something here - Is there a step-by-step setup that works for gentoo somewhere ?, any suggestions ? TIA, Frank. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
