Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
ill try it tomorrow and see if it works. thanks! Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:33, Lotas T Smartman wrote: but does webmins java ssh app not need SSH though the firewall? the last time i tried it it dident work behind my firewall. unless im doing something wrong. is there a way for ssh traffic to slow over either http or https? If you run Webmin on the machine you want access to, it SSH's to itself. Therefore if you allow SSH protocol from the machine to itself, it will work. The SSH is not originating on the machine you surf the Web with. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:33, Lotas T Smartman wrote: > but does webmins java ssh app not need SSH though the firewall? the last > time i tried it it dident work behind my firewall. unless im doing > something wrong. is there a way for ssh traffic to slow over either http > or https? If you run Webmin on the machine you want access to, it SSH's to itself. Therefore if you allow SSH protocol from the machine to itself, it will work. The SSH is not originating on the machine you surf the Web with. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
but does webmins java ssh app not need SSH though the firewall? the last time i tried it it dident work behind my firewall. unless im doing something wrong. is there a way for ssh traffic to slow over either http or https? Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:48, Lotas T Smartman wrote: im guessing that redhat would be the option for me then. i love gentoo, and its going on my workstation soon, but for over 8 hours a day i wont be able to get access to my virtual server in the US if i get gentoo. if an update comes out with redhat, its a matter of telling the website to update it. thats it. with gentoo i have to login, rsync, emerge the update and if its something like apache, or something thats going to take time to recomple, it will be a good while to update. Sorry lads. you dident loose one, i still have a linux server at home that will be running gentoo soon, but you dident gain one. hope someone works on a project like this soon! As I replied to another subthread, you indeed will have access unless you block SSH from localhost, which is what running Webmin on localhost would do. With Gentoo, you set up a daily cron script to run emerge sync, then run emerge -up world and email you the output. If there are packages you feel like updating, you log in over Webmin, start a screen session (app-misc/screen), emerge -u world, detach the screen session, and leave. Then you check back later by re-logging in to Webmin and reattaching the screen session to make sure everything worked. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:48, Lotas T Smartman wrote: > im guessing that redhat would be the option for me then. i love gentoo, > and its going on my workstation soon, but for over 8 hours a day i wont > be able to get access to my virtual server in the US if i get gentoo. if > an update comes out with redhat, its a matter of telling the website to > update it. thats it. with gentoo i have to login, rsync, emerge the > update and if its something like apache, or something thats going to > take time to recomple, it will be a good while to update. > Sorry lads. you dident loose one, i still have a linux server at home > that will be running gentoo soon, but you dident gain one. hope someone > works on a project like this soon! As I replied to another subthread, you indeed will have access unless you block SSH from localhost, which is what running Webmin on localhost would do. With Gentoo, you set up a daily cron script to run emerge sync, then run emerge -up world and email you the output. If there are packages you feel like updating, you log in over Webmin, start a screen session (app-misc/screen), emerge -u world, detach the screen session, and leave. Then you check back later by re-logging in to Webmin and reattaching the screen session to make sure everything worked. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
im guessing that redhat would be the option for me then. i love gentoo, and its going on my workstation soon, but for over 8 hours a day i wont be able to get access to my virtual server in the US if i get gentoo. if an update comes out with redhat, its a matter of telling the website to update it. thats it. with gentoo i have to login, rsync, emerge the update and if its something like apache, or something thats going to take time to recomple, it will be a good while to update. Sorry lads. you dident loose one, i still have a linux server at home that will be running gentoo soon, but you dident gain one. hope someone works on a project like this soon! Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net Lotas T Smartman wrote: only problem is SSH is blocked on the firewall im behind. Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 02:11, Christian Schäfer wrote: hi Donnie, Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote: There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, but it's impossible to view available updates etc. but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around. Yes, there happens to be one in Webmin/Usermin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:37, Lotas T Smartman wrote: > only problem is SSH is blocked on the firewall im behind. > Lotas If you're running webmin on the computer it needs to access, the only thing moving between you and that computer is HTTP. Unless the computer is blocking SSH from itself. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
only problem is SSH is blocked on the firewall im behind. Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 02:11, Christian Schäfer wrote: hi Donnie, Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote: There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, but it's impossible to view available updates etc. but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around. Yes, there happens to be one in Webmin/Usermin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[4]: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
hi Donnie, Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:18:29 AM, you wrote: > On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 02:11, Christian Schäfer wrote: >> hi Donnie, >> >> Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote: >> > There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates >> > via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, >> > but it's impossible to view available updates etc. >> >> but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a >> webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around. > Yes, there happens to be one in Webmin/Usermin. so you can after some heavy authentication provide a root shell or a shell where you are member of the wheel group and then do the updates manually. so the answer to his question is: yes, there is! ;-) gruss /Christian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers: :-) 19-Sep-82 11:44Scott E Fahlman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 02:11, Christian Schäfer wrote: > hi Donnie, > > Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote: > > There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates > > via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, > > but it's impossible to view available updates etc. > > but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a > webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around. Yes, there happens to be one in Webmin/Usermin. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
hi Donnie, Monday, October 20, 2003, 8:01:44 AM, you wrote: > There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates > via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, > but it's impossible to view available updates etc. but it should be possible to install some javaapplet, that is a webbased ssh-shell. there are some applets that do that around. gruss /Christian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers: :-) 19-Sep-82 11:44Scott E Fahlman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 01:36, Lotas T Smartman wrote: > Right. im moving my hosting company and the company (www.jvds.com) are > offering a choise of distro under linux, including redhat and gentoo. my > first choice would be redhat because of the RHN, the install of updates > via the RHN website and the email notification. but gentoo takes less > space then redhat (full install for RH is about 1Gb, they say gentoo is > about 400mb). so is there any tools like that for gentoo. the reason web > install of software is so important is because half of the day i dont > have access to ssh to upgrade stuff. a web based installer would make > this easer. > Thanks in advance. > Lotas > www.lotas-smartman.net There is nothing I'm aware of that is able to view and install updates via the web on Gentoo yet. There's a Webmin module that allows installs, but it's impossible to view available updates etc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] gentoo VS redhat on a server
Right. im moving my hosting company and the company (www.jvds.com) are offering a choise of distro under linux, including redhat and gentoo. my first choice would be redhat because of the RHN, the install of updates via the RHN website and the email notification. but gentoo takes less space then redhat (full install for RH is about 1Gb, they say gentoo is about 400mb). so is there any tools like that for gentoo. the reason web install of software is so important is because half of the day i dont have access to ssh to upgrade stuff. a web based installer would make this easer. Thanks in advance. Lotas www.lotas-smartman.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
