[gentoo-user] portage (?) question
Hi, I did install gentoo on my machine starting from a stage2 tarball. After bringing up the minimum system wanted to install the KDE and did a # emerge -u kde But the compilation wasn't successful since the ebuild 'qt-3.2.2-r1' exploited a bug in the g++ compiler ( which had been already reported in bugzilla but not fixed and marked as 'can't resolve' ) that broke the whole process. So I managed to compile qt by hand , just by typing 'make' in every single dir that made up the sources (i.e. the dirs in /var/tmp/portage/qt...) , and that succeeded indeed(I thought it could be a bug(?) in g++'s memory management and thought that breakin up the compilation in unit could help ). As a final note: I used the makefiles as provided by the 'configure' script launched by emerge. Now , my questions: 1) How can I know how to put everything in place , i.e. where to put the libraries, headers and alike? (trying to guess: cp -r /var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.2-r1/image/* / ?) 2) Even if a 'make install' would suffice (it does not actually) if i do an #emerge -up kde I still see qt-3.2.2-r1 marked as [ N] 'cause of course portage isn't aware of the recent build. Is there a way to manually update the pkgs' db? Please don't flame me, i'm still a newbie of gentoo, and I'm riskying of getting fired since whenever I have five minutes left on job I'm sticking on this brand new gentoo box. TIA, D_ ## # Davide Ricci # Rome -Italy ## -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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2) Even if a 'make install' would suffice (it does not actually) if i do an #emerge -up kde I still see qt-3.2.2-r1 marked as [ N] 'cause of course portage isn't aware of the recent build. Is there a way to manually update the pkgs' db? found this in man emerge: inject (-i) Injecting a package inserts a 'stub' for that package so that Portage thinks that it is installed. It is handy if you need, say, a binary version of XFree86 for esoteric hardware, or you just like to roll your own packages. You must specify a category and par- ticular version of a package for injecting. For example, emerge inject sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.19. Please don't flame me, i'm still a newbie of gentoo, and I'm riskying of getting fired since whenever I have five minutes left on job I'm sticking on this brand new gentoo box. -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Woey, that was great man. It worked. So point 2 's gone. thx, D_ 2) Even if a 'make install' would suffice (it does not actually) if i do an #emerge -up kde I still see qt-3.2.2-r1 marked as [ N] 'cause of course portage isn't aware of the recent build. Is there a way to manually update the pkgs' db? found this in man emerge: inject (-i) Injecting a package inserts a 'stub' for that package so that Portage thinks that it is installed. It is handy if you need, say, a binary version of XFree86 for esoteric hardware, or you just like to roll your own packages. You must specify a category and par- ticular version of a package for injecting. For example, emerge inject sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.19. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Friday 12 December 2003 23:59, Davide Ricci wrote: I did install gentoo on my machine starting from a stage2 tarball. After bringing up the minimum system wanted to install the KDE and did a # emerge -u kde But the compilation wasn't successful since the ebuild 'qt-3.2.2-r1' exploited a bug in the g++ compiler that broke the whole process. I managed to compile qt by hand , just by typing 'make' in every single dir that made up the sources (i.e. the dirs in /var/tmp/portage/qt...) , and that succeeded. As a final note: I used the makefiles as provided by the 'configure' script launched by emerge. Now , my questions: 1) How can I know how to put everything in place , i.e. where to put the libraries, headers and alike? (trying to guess: cp -r /var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.2-r1/image/* / ?) Take a look at man ebuild. Running ebuild path/to/ebuild install followed by ebuild path/to/ebuild merge should have done what you wanted and portage would still account for the files installed. 2) Even if a 'make install' would suffice (it does not actually) if i do an #emerge -up kde I still see qt-3.2.2-r1 marked as [ N] 'cause of course portage isn't aware of the recent build. Is there a way to manually update the pkgs' db? See above. Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 12:10 pm, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: I've removed i2c and lm-sensors from my box because there is no ebuild as yet for version 2.8.0 which I need to support my chipset (nforce2). I have i2c and lm-sensors-2.8.0 installed from source. I have done qpkg -q and removed all packages which depend on them, but emerge -UDp world still wants to install version 2.7.0-r1 of both They are not in the list if I do emerge Up world. There is nothing in the Deep list after the 2 packages that remotely needs them. I do have i2c support built into the kernel as modules though they are not being used (won't work with v-2.8.0) Is this the reason Deep wants to add i2c and lm-sensors? Asside from rebuilding the kernel is there any way to fix this? emerge -i sys-apps/i2c-2.7.0-r1 emerge -i sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 Thanks Andrew. Let's just suppose that down the line I want to resume using a package I have injected. Will simply emerging the package = to or the version I injected return the package to normal status? Or, is there other magic that must be performed? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Ernie Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 08 October 2003 12:10 pm, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: I've removed i2c and lm-sensors from my box because there is no ebuild as yet for version 2.8.0 which I need to support my chipset (nforce2). I have i2c and lm-sensors-2.8.0 installed from source. I have done qpkg -q and removed all packages which depend on them, but emerge -UDp world still wants to install version 2.7.0-r1 of both They are not in the list if I do emerge Up world. There is nothing in the Deep list after the 2 packages that remotely needs them. I do have i2c support built into the kernel as modules though they are not being used (won't work with v-2.8.0) Is this the reason Deep wants to add i2c and lm-sensors? Asside from rebuilding the kernel is there any way to fix this? emerge -i sys-apps/i2c-2.7.0-r1 emerge -i sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 Thanks Andrew. Let's just suppose that down the line I want to resume using a package I have injected. Will simply emerging the package = to or the version I injected return the package to normal status? Or, is there other magic that must be performed? Just treat it like its a normal package. Use 'emerge -C injected package', 'emerge -u injected package', etc. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Ernie Schroder wrote: Thanks Andrew. Let's just suppose that down the line I want to resume using a package I have injected. Will simply emerging the package = to or the version I injected return the package to normal status? Or, is there other magic that must be performed? Unmerge injected packages. Emerge desired packages normally. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage question
I've removed i2c and lm-sensors from my box because there is no ebuild as yet for version 2.8.0 which I need to support my chipset (nforce2). I have i2c and lm-sensors-2.8.0 installed from source. I have done qpkg -q and removed all packages which depend on them, but emerge -UDp world still wants to install version 2.7.0-r1 of both They are not in the list if I do emerge Up world. There is nothing in the Deep list after the 2 packages that remotely needs them. I do have i2c support built into the kernel as modules though they are not being used (won't work with v-2.8.0) Is this the reason Deep wants to add i2c and lm-sensors? Asside from rebuilding the kernel is there any way to fix this? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Ernie Schroder wrote: I've removed i2c and lm-sensors from my box because there is no ebuild as yet for version 2.8.0 which I need to support my chipset (nforce2). I have i2c and lm-sensors-2.8.0 installed from source. I have done qpkg -q and removed all packages which depend on them, but emerge -UDp world still wants to install version 2.7.0-r1 of both They are not in the list if I do emerge Up world. There is nothing in the Deep list after the 2 packages that remotely needs them. I do have i2c support built into the kernel as modules though they are not being used (won't work with v-2.8.0) Is this the reason Deep wants to add i2c and lm-sensors? Asside from rebuilding the kernel is there any way to fix this? emerge -i sys-apps/i2c-2.7.0-r1 emerge -i sys-apps/lm-sensors-2.7.0-r1 -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:11:50 +0300 (IDT), Leonid Podolny wrote: I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. Unfortunately this isn't how package.unmask works. See: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25041 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 25 July 2003 3:35 pm, Alexander Futasz wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:11:50 +0300 (IDT), Leonid Podolny wrote: I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. Unfortunately this isn't how package.unmask works. See: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25041 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Does emerge -U world also try and downgrade it? Puggy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/IUGmXYnvgFdTojMRAm5GAKDVo4E7pHqDoKCkBrAxCoxMQgOoQgCgrCgR P3woJ9M92vIwd7GHndKly84= =4myn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage question
Hi, I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. The strange thing is that there was no /etc/portage directory on my machine, so I created it. Regards, L. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:11:50 +0300 (IDT) Leonid Podolny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. The strange thing is that there was no /etc/portage directory on my machine, so I created it. Regards, L. Try putting =net-mail/postfix-2.0.11 in your /etc/portage/package.mask file. That should stop it from trying to use that particular version. -- Ian Truelsen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: ihtruelsen Homepage: http://www.ihtruelsen.dyndns.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Ian Truelsen wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:11:50 +0300 (IDT) Leonid Podolny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, [snip] Try putting =net-mail/postfix-2.0.11 in your /etc/portage/package.mask file. That should stop it from trying to use that particular version. I'm unable to check it right now, but I'm sure, that it would install the last masked version _before_ the 2.0.11, because it will add 2.0.11 to masked packages, and I need to unmask 2.0.13-r1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:11, Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. See emerge --help or man emerge. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. No, it's much more simpler. The strange thing is that there was no /etc/portage directory on my machine, so I created it. Regards, L. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Recently deceased blues guitarist Stevie Ray Vaughan comes to after his death. He sees Jimi Hendrix sitting next to him, tuning his guitar. Holy cow, he thinks to himself, this guy is my idol. Over at the microphone, about to sing, are Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin, and the bassist is the late Barry Oakley of the Allman Brothers. So Stevie Ray's thinking, Oh, wow! I've died and gone to rock and roll heaven. Just then, Karen Carpenter walks in, sits down at the drums, and says: 'Close to You'. Hit it, boys! -- Told by Penn Jillette, of magic/comedy duo Penn and Teller -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:11, Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, I know this question was asked here at least dozen of times, but I still have the following problem. I have postfix-2.0.13-r1 installed, and every emerge -u world is trying to downgrade it to version 2.0.11. See emerge --help or man emerge. So I've put =net-mail/postfix-2.0.13 to /etc/portage/packages.unmask, and it doesn't help. No, it's much more simpler. If you talk about -U option, then it's not good enough. I want my packages downgraded, if needed, I only want to preserve postfix. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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[gentoo-user] Portage question: Package build hold
Is it possible to install a package and then prevent it from being upgraded in a normal emerge -u world? (DPKG has this ability.) I would like to install XiG's Xserver, but if I do, I don't want the next XFree86 update to come along and smash the install. Naturally I would have to install XFree86 and install XiG over it (to fulfill Portage dependencies) right? All suggestions welcome. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage question
I just did an emerge-UDp world and there are a bunch of packages that I would like to update. Open Office is NOT one of them. It struck me that it would be convenient to have a switch for portage so that I could do something like: # emerge -UD world --except openoffice Or is there an easy way to accomplish this? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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-- quoting Ernie Schroder -- # emerge -UD world --except openoffice Or is there an easy way to accomplish this? Maybe that's not exactly what you are looking for, but you could try to inject the packages you don't want to update. So it would look like: shell$ emerge -i openoffice-version shell$ emerge -i other_packages shell$ emerge -UD world If you then want to upgrade openoffice later, you still can do a normal: shell$ emerge -p openoffice-version HTH, Matthias -- Bart, a woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! - Homer Simpson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Sunday 15 June 2003 11:56 am, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: -- quoting Ernie Schroder -- # emerge -UD world --except openoffice Or is there an easy way to accomplish this? Maybe that's not exactly what you are looking for, but you could try to inject the packages you don't want to update. So it would look like: shell$ emerge -i openoffice-version shell$ emerge -i other_packages shell$ emerge -UD world If you then want to upgrade openoffice later, you still can do a normal: shell$ emerge -p openoffice-version HTH, Matthias True, this will work, but, tell me: After at some point I do: # emerge -p openoffice-version will openoffice be back in my worldfile and update normally? Wouldn't it still be simpler to have the --except switch? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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-- quoting Ernie Schroder -- True, this will work, but, tell me: After at some point I do: # emerge -p openoffice-version will openoffice be back in my worldfile and update normally? Wouldn't it still be simpler to have the --except switch? As said, I think that's not exactly what you were looking for, but since there is AFAIK no --except or similar option, the --inject option is one possible solution... And to you question: I think if you do the normal emerge after the injection, it gets recorded in your worldfile and it gets updated as usual. Greetings, Matthias -- I probably shouldn't have eaten that packet of powered gravy I found in the parking lot. - Homer Simpson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I just did an emerge-UDp world and there are a bunch of packages that I would like to update. Open Office is NOT one of them. It struck me that it would be convenient to have a switch for portage so that I could do something like: # emerge -UD world --except openoffice Or is there an easy way to accomplish this? Try to write your specific version in the world file, then emerge will assume that you need that version of openoffice, and not some other one. Regards, - -- Juan Ángel PGP key on pgp.rediris.es (8FAF18B7) or search on http://www.rediris.es/cert/servicios/keyserver/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+7KAtaQjbS4+vGLcRAnEYAKCRK9MM7td1gPlpgjIraOti/zs22gCeJdHj SAu1OoarA7OzTVJdiqXw6fc= =dhes -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage question
On Sunday 15 June 2003 12:17 pm, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: -- quoting Ernie Schroder -- True, this will work, but, tell me: After at some point I do: # emerge -p openoffice-version will openoffice be back in my worldfile and update normally? Wouldn't it still be simpler to have the --except switch? As said, I think that's not exactly what you were looking for, but since there is AFAIK no --except or similar option, the --inject option is one possible solution... And to you question: I think if you do the normal emerge after the injection, it gets recorded in your worldfile and it gets updated as usual. Greetings, Matthias Thanks Matthias. It seems that I can comment out the line: app-office/openoffice in /var/cache/edb/world and proceed with my # emerge -UD world as well. It's then a simple matter to go back and remove the comment. Maybe I will submit a feature request to bugzilla. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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I just did an emerge-UDp world and there are a bunch of packages that I would like to update. Open Office is NOT one of them. It struck me that it would be convenient to have a switch for portage so that I could do something like: # emerge -UD world --except openoffice Or is there an easy way to accomplish this? Try to write your specific version in the world file, then emerge will assume that you need that version of openoffice, and not some other one. Regards, - -- Juan Ángel PGP key on pgp.rediris.es (8FAF18B7) or search on http://www.rediris.es/cert/servicios/keyserver/ Well what I usually do is the following: cp /var/cache/edb/world /var/cache/edb/world.bak nano -w /var/cache/edb/world (now remove the line with openoffice) emerge -uDe world cp /var/cache/edb/world.bak /var/cache/edb/world This is a horrible hack I know but it works like a charm. I used to try to play around by pinning = the version in my world file but this didn't seem to work very well.. but it has been a long time since I tried, like back in 1.1 or earlier.. LOL! Cheers, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage question
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 07:09:50AM +, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 07:10 am, Doug Gorley wrote: It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) Well, at first I was inclined to go with the French pronounciation but the Penguin Rhyming Dictionary gives portage as rhyming with -idge words... http://www.xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=436432secid=.-hh=1 Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:16:05 + Daniel Jaeggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 07:09:50AM +, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 07:10 am, Doug Gorley wrote: It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) Well, at first I was inclined to go with the French pronounciation but the Penguin Rhyming Dictionary gives portage as rhyming with -idge words... Amazing the varieties of English expression. Before this little interlude, it would have never occurred to me that anyone would actually say anything but pOrt-idge, and anyone saying port-Azh I would expect to be found wearing a beret and carrying a baguette under his arm. -- Collins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Sunday 16 March 2003 07:10 am, Doug Gorley wrote: It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) I'll second that; I only know the word from reading it on Gentoo (ie. never heard anyone say it that I didn't tell first), but the so-called American pronounciation never even occured to me until I read this thread. (Goes back to his Tim Horton's coffee) Mmmm... Tim Horton's aaahhh. In my younger days, back in the late 60's I spent a summer traveling by canoe in Quebec. Now, carrying a canoe past falls, obstructions or impassable rapids is called portage the pronunciation put the accent on the second syllable which was pronounced like Taj Mahal. It really doesn't matter to me how Gentoo pronounces it. What DOES matter is that it just plain works! better and less painful than apt-get and far less frustrating than RPM Some body ask Daniel to record a little sound sample similar to the one sndconfig uses to test sound setup. Linus might get jealous but what the heck. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage question
Hi! Since English is not my native language I was wondering how do you pronounce Portage. With two stresses like two different words port age or with one stress like in sausage? Just curious ;-) Maybe we need an audio version from Daniel Robbins with Hello, I'm Daniel Robbins and I pronounce Portage as Portage. :-) Regards, Renat -- Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Renat Golubchyk wrote: Hi! Since English is not my native language I was wondering how do you pronounce Portage. With two stresses like two different words port age or with one stress like in sausage? Just curious ;-) Maybe we need an audio version from Daniel Robbins with Hello, I'm Daniel Robbins and I pronounce Portage as Portage. :-) Regards, Renat It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) (Goes back to his Tim Horton's coffee) Don -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage question
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Don Smith wrote: Renat Golubchyk wrote: Hi! Since English is not my native language I was wondering how do you pronounce Portage. With two stresses like two different words port age or with one stress like in sausage? The pronunciation is normally the French pronunciation for the word, although I think in English we lose an accent somewhere. So the word is pronounced with two separate stresses, por - tage, but the age is pronounced more like auzh. English doesn't really have anything like it, which is odd because it IS an English word now. Just curious ;-) Maybe we need an audio version from Daniel Robbins with Hello, I'm Daniel Robbins and I pronounce Portage as Portage. :-) This could be a good idea... It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) I'm a Canadian, too, but it seems we disagree in either the pronunciation of portage or sausage. When I says sausage, the first syllable has a much stronger stress than the second, and the 'g' is pronounced with a 'j' sound. The only similarity to portage is how many syllables it has... (Goes back to his Tim Horton's coffee) -- Craig West Ph: (416) 567-1491 | It's not a bug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | It's a feature... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage question
On Saturday 15 March 2003 08:26 am, Don Smith wrote: It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) I am an American, and I also pronounce it roughly the same way as sausage. I've never heard it pronounced by anyone who wasn't introduced to Gentoo by me, though, so take that with a grain of salt. If I were to think about it, my chosen pronunciation was determined mostly by cultural influences. For whatever reason my age/geographic group tends to occasionally stick -age on random words and pronounce them in the same way. And there's that Kia SUV, the Sportage; it's name is pronounced this way too. A. Craig West mentioned a French pronunciation. I wouldn't be surprised if many people chose to pronounce it that way. However people pronounce it, it's almost certainly pronounced as a single word, in any case. I've attached a sound clip to make the discussion more interesting. (Quality's bad for size and I was speaking softly, but hopefully you can hear me.) If anyone has wildly different pronunciations, or justification as to why their pronunciation is the more correct, I'd be interested. Evan portage.wav.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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It is por tauge so yes, like in sausage. I am Canadian and Americans may say it different. They say we have a accent but I do not know what that it aboot, eh? :) I'll second that; I only know the word from reading it on Gentoo (ie. never heard anyone say it that I didn't tell first), but the so-called American pronounciation never even occured to me until I read this thread. (Goes back to his Tim Horton's coffee) Mmmm... Tim Horton's aaahhh. -- Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key ID: 0xA221559B Fingerprint: D707 DB92 E64B 69DA B8C7 2F65 C5A9 5415 A221 559B Interested in public-key cryptography?http://www.gnupg.org/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
