Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Glad to know it's not just me and my card is about normal!

I have an Asus A7M266-D board with the AMD chipset on it.  I've run AGPGART 
and had no trouble and am now running Nvidia's AGP and so far haven't had any 
trouble.

 On Fri, 30 May 2003 22:13:42 -0400

 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and leave
  it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this  normal?
 
   Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and
   now without trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia
   drivers, glx -  I get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with 64
   meg of memory. update-opengl didn't make any difference.  I get
   around 24000 fps if I switch to a console - but it's hard to run the
   system that way G.

 I have the same card you do Brett, and that's about what I get when I
 enable AGP. I have to disable agp, though, as it locks up after a
 while. What motherboard do you have? I am thinking it may be an issue
 with the via chipset maybe.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks.


 On Saturday 31 May 2003 03:13, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and leave
  it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this  normal?

 Yes

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks, Ernie.  I'm running 1024x768.  It's good to know that the drop is 
normal.  I guess Gears doesn't like full maximized windows.  I'm not going to 
mess with overclocking.

 On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 30 May 2003 22:13:42 -0400
 
  Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and
   leave it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this
   normal?
  
Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and
now without trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia
drivers, glx -  I get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with
64 meg of memory. update-opengl didn't make any difference.  I
get around 24000 fps if I switch to a console - but it's hard to
run the system that way G.

 Brett,
   The framerate drop at full screen is normal. The amount of drop depends
 on your screen resolution. I'm running 1920x1440 at the moment and
 framerate drops from 5820 F/sec to 210 F/sec when I maximize the
 window. Overclocking the card with NVclock (core and memory + 10%) give
 me 6270 and 230 F/sec.glxgears

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:06 am, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 Thanks, Ernie.  I'm running 1024x768.  It's good to know that the
 drop is normal.  I guess Gears doesn't like full maximized windows. 
 I'm not going to mess with overclocking.

  On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, 30 May 2003 22:13:42 -0400
  
   Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and
leave it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this
normal?
   
 Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad)
 and now without trying - I did the same as before: merged
 nvidia drivers, glx -  I get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3
 Card with 64 meg of memory. update-opengl didn't make any
 difference.  I get around 24000 fps if I switch to a console
 - but it's hard to run the system that way G.
 
  Brett,
  The framerate drop at full screen is normal. The amount of drop
  depends on your screen resolution. I'm running 1920x1440 at the
  moment and framerate drops from 5820 F/sec to 210 F/sec when I
  maximize the window. Overclocking the card with NVclock (core and
  memory + 10%) give me 6270 and 230 F/sec.glxgears

Brett, 
I don't know if your card has a GPU fan on it but assuming it does, at 
least my card is completely stable at roughly 10% over default specs. I 
notice no jitter or nasty artifacts until I get to 20% over on the core 
speed. Heat doesn't seem to be an issue to me with my copper heatsink 
and fan.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, it has a fan.  However, I'm not a fan of overclocking anything.  I may 
try it later when I have time.  Right now I'm troubleshooting a RAID problem 
that is very intermittant and trying to get a backup system going so if I 
loose the RAID again I can recover without the install!


 On Saturday 31 May 2003 11:06 am, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  Thanks, Ernie.  I'm running 1024x768.  It's good to know that the
  drop is normal.  I guess Gears doesn't like full maximized windows.
  I'm not going to mess with overclocking.
 
   On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Brett,
 The framerate drop at full screen is normal. The amount of drop
   depends on your screen resolution. I'm running 1920x1440 at the
   moment and framerate drops from 5820 F/sec to 210 F/sec when I
   maximize the window. Overclocking the card with NVclock (core and
   memory + 10%) give me 6270 and 230 F/sec.glxgears

 Brett,
   I don't know if your card has a GPU fan on it but assuming it does, at
 least my card is completely stable at roughly 10% over default specs. I
 notice no jitter or nasty artifacts until I get to 20% over on the core
 speed. Heat doesn't seem to be an issue to me with my copper heatsink
 and fan.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread nealbirch
On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:05:04 -0400
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Glad to know it's not just me and my card is about normal!
 
 I have an Asus A7M266-D board with the AMD chipset on it.  I've run
 AGPGART and had no trouble and am now running Nvidia's AGP and so far
 haven't had any trouble.

Stupid VIA chipset. Well, for now I live with it. Good to know where the
problem is at, though!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread nealbirch
On Sat, 31 May 2003 07:19:47 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What motherboard do you have? I am thinking it may be an issue
  with the via chipset maybe.
 
   I had the same issues with my KT133 (Via) board. I tried
   everything 
 including a run around with Via and never did get AGP stable. My 
 solution was a new board. I went to an Nforce2 based board and an 
 AthlonXP2100.

I was begining to suspect the Via chipset, it's nice to get a
confirmation. Thanks! I guess the next mb has a different chipset..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-06-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That's why I've never owned a system with a VIA chipset.  They have too many 
problems.


 On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:05:04 -0400

 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Glad to know it's not just me and my card is about normal!
 
  I have an Asus A7M266-D board with the AMD chipset on it.  I've run
  AGPGART and had no trouble and am now running Nvidia's AGP and so far
  haven't had any trouble.

 Stupid VIA chipset. Well, for now I live with it. Good to know where the
 problem is at, though!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-05-31 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and now without 
trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia drivers, glx -  I get around 
3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with 64 meg of memory.  update-opengl didn't 
make any difference.  I get around 24000 fps if I switch to a console - but 
it's hard to run the system that way G.



 On Tuesday 20 May 2003 07:45 am, brett holcomb wrote:
  I did all but update-opengl nvidia and got the logo when I
  did startx.
 
  Does the logo mean I am using hardware acceleration?

 No, only that you are using the nvidia driver. Do:

 $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
 Status:  Enabled
 Driver:  NVIDIA
 AGP Rate:4x
 Fast Writes: Enabled
 SBA: Enabled

 GeForce4 TI4200

 $ glxgears
 28983 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5796.600 FPS
 28971 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5794.200 FPS

 $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
 Host Bridge: PCI device 10de:01e0 (nVidia Corporation)
 Fast Writes: Supported
 SBA: Supported
 AGP Rates:   4x 2x 1x
 Registers:   0x1f000217:0x0314

 from XF86Config

 Section Screen
 Identifier  Screen 1
 Device  nVidia_GeForce4_TI4200
 Option  NvAGP 1 #1=nvidia AGP 2= AGPGART 3=lookfor
  NVAGP and use if found. If
  not, use AGPGART 0=  no
  AGP
 Monitor HYUNDAI
 DefaultDepth 16

 hope something here helps

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-05-31 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and leave it with 
focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this  normal?



 Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and now
 without trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia drivers, glx -  I
 get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with 64 meg of memory. 
 update-opengl didn't make any difference.  I get around 24000 fps if I
 switch to a console - but it's hard to run the system that way G.

  On Tuesday 20 May 2003 07:45 am, brett holcomb wrote:
   I did all but update-opengl nvidia and got the logo when I
   did startx.
  
   Does the logo mean I am using hardware acceleration?
 
  No, only that you are using the nvidia driver. Do:
 
  $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
  Status:  Enabled
  Driver:  NVIDIA
  AGP Rate:4x
  Fast Writes: Enabled
  SBA: Enabled
 
  GeForce4 TI4200
 
  $ glxgears
  28983 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5796.600 FPS
  28971 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5794.200 FPS
 
  $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
  Host Bridge: PCI device 10de:01e0 (nVidia Corporation)
  Fast Writes: Supported
  SBA: Supported
  AGP Rates:   4x 2x 1x
  Registers:   0x1f000217:0x0314
 
  from XF86Config
 
  Section Screen
  Identifier  Screen 1
  Device  nVidia_GeForce4_TI4200
  Option  NvAGP 1 #1=nvidia AGP 2= AGPGART 3=lookfor
   NVAGP and use if found. If
   not, use AGPGART 0=  no
   AGP
  Monitor HYUNDAI
  DefaultDepth 16
 
  hope something here helps

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-05-31 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Saturday 31 May 2003 03:13, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and leave
 it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this  normal?

Yes


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-05-31 Thread nealbirch
On Fri, 30 May 2003 22:13:42 -0400
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and leave
 it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this  normal?
 
 
 
  Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and
  now without trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia
  drivers, glx -  I get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with 64
  meg of memory. update-opengl didn't make any difference.  I get
  around 24000 fps if I switch to a console - but it's hard to run the
  system that way G.
 

I have the same card you do Brett, and that's about what I get when I
enable AGP. I have to disable agp, though, as it locks up after a
while. What motherboard do you have? I am thinking it may be an issue
with the via chipset maybe.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti500

2003-05-31 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 30 May 2003 22:13:42 -0400

 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And even more interesting.  If I maximize the gears window and
  leave it with focus the FPS drops to 500-1000 FPS.  Is this 
  normal?
 
   Strange things here.  I rebuilt the system (my RAID went bad) and
   now without trying - I did the same as before: merged nvidia
   drivers, glx -  I get around 3200 FPS from a Geforce3 Card with
   64 meg of memory. update-opengl didn't make any difference.  I
   get around 24000 fps if I switch to a console - but it's hard to
   run the system that way G.

 I have the same card you do Brett, and that's about what I get when I
 enable AGP. I have to disable agp, though, as it locks up after a
 while. What motherboard do you have? I am thinking it may be an issue
 with the via chipset maybe.

Neal,
I had the same issues with my KT133 (Via) board. I tried everything 
including a run around with Via and never did get AGP stable. My 
solution was a new board. I went to an Nforce2 based board and an 
AthlonXP2100.

Brett,
The framerate drop at full screen is normal. The amount of drop depends 
on your screen resolution. I'm running 1920x1440 at the moment and 
framerate drops from 5820 F/sec to 210 F/sec when I maximize the 
window. Overclocking the card with NVclock (core and memory + 10%) give 
me 6270 and 230 F/sec.glxgears

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