Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-16 Thread Spider
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:32:08 +0200
Timo Boettcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I just had a look at the docs on www.gentoo.org and didn't found the
> possibility to use -* documented... Did I look at the wrong place or
> is that *really* undocumented? If so, it would be cool to have that
> documented.


Not too sure there , but quoting "man make.conf"

Exceptions  are incremental variables such as USE,
CONFIG_PROTECT*, and   ACCEPT_KEYWORDS.   Incremental  variables 
are  propagated  down   from   make.defaults to make.globals to
make.conf to the environment settings.   Clearing these variables
requires a clear-all as in: export USE="-*"


so it is documented. perhaps not online though, file an enchantment
documentation bug about it perhaps?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-16 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Spider,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003, 20:49:33:

> I'd actually suggest having :
> USE="-* ncuses nls libwww cups crypt xml2 readline slang berkdb gpm ssl
> perl python ldap firebird mmx nocardbus foomaticdb" 

> the -* will disable just about "anytning"   , and then you set only
> positive things that you know you do want. (Just like when you create a
> firewall ;)

I just had a look at the docs on www.gentoo.org and didn't found the
possibility to use -* documented... Did I look at the wrong place or
is that *really* undocumented? If so, it would be cool to have that
documented.


> //Spider


 Timo


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:43:01 +0200
Timo Boettcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Router root # emerge info | grep USE
> USE="crypt cups encode foomaticdb gif gtk imlib jpeg libg++ libwww mad
> mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis pdflib png qt quicktime "
> spell svga truetype xml2 xmms gdbm berkdb slang readline gpm tcpd ssl
> perl python ldap -3dfx -3dnow -acpi -alsa -arts -apm -avi -dga
> -directfb -dvb -dvd -esd -ev6 -evo -fbcon firebird -flash -gb -gnome
> -gphoto2 -gps -kde -lirc -matrox -mbox -moziolla -oci -oss -opengl
> -pam -pcmcia -pda -ruby -scanner -sse -voodoo3 -wavelan -X -Xaw3d
> -xface -xinerama xv -zeo -ppc -sparc -alpha -mips -hppa -arm mmx
> nocardbus x86 zlib" 
> Router root #
> 




Things that will bite you here :
"qt" "sdl" "xmms"  "motif" 


I'd actually suggest having :
USE="-* ncuses nls libwww cups crypt xml2 readline slang berkdb gpm ssl
perl python ldap firebird mmx nocardbus foomaticdb" 


the -* will disable just about "anytning"   , and then you set only
positive things that you know you do want. (Just like when you create a
firewall ;)



> That was gtk (according to ufed). I took it out, do I have to restart
> the still running (it will run for  some time, it only a 233MHz
> machine) "emerge -uUD world" ?

Probably, yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Stroller,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003, 15:20:40:


> On 15 Oct 2003, at 12:15 pm, Timo Boettcher wrote:

>> When trying to update my router, I was a bit shocked to see it wants
>> to install xfree86, whereas it didn't do so in older updates and even
>> though I have -X in my USE-Flags. "qpkg -q" doesn't list X as
>> dependency for anything, so why is it being istalled?
>>
>> Router root # emerge -uUD world -p

> Hihi,

> Could you post the output of `emerge -uUDpv world`, please..?
> I think the "-v" flag will be helpful.
taking "gtk" out of USE fixed it.


Router root # USE="gtk" emerge -uUD world -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] media-libs/freetype-2.1.4  -doc +zlib -bindist
[ebuild  N] media-libs/fontconfig-2.2.1
[ebuild  N] x11-base/opengl-update-1.5
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9
[ebuild  N] app-arch/cabextract-0.6
[ebuild  N] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3  -3dfx -sse +mmx -3dnow +xml2 +truetype +nls 
-cjk -doc -ipv6 -debug -static -pam -sdk -gatos
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/pango-1.2.5  -doc
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/atk-1.4.0  -doc
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1  -doc -tiff +jpeg

Router root #

> Stroller.



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Oct 2003, at 12:15 pm, Timo Boettcher wrote:

When trying to update my router, I was a bit shocked to see it wants
to install xfree86, whereas it didn't do so in older updates and even
though I have -X in my USE-Flags. "qpkg -q" doesn't list X as
dependency for anything, so why is it being istalled?
Router root # emerge -uUD world -p
Hihi,

Could you post the output of `emerge -uUDpv world`, please..?
I think the "-v" flag will be helpful.
Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Spider,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2003, 13:50:45:

> Timo Boettcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> When trying to update my router, I was a bit shocked to see it wants
>> to install xfree86, whereas it didn't do so in older updates and even
>> though I have -X in my USE-Flags. "qpkg -q" doesn't list X as
>> dependency for anything, so why is it being istalled?

> A few of theese strikes me as possible reasons, can you please paste the
> USE section from "emerge info" (No, not just make.confg. emerge info
> |grep USE )
Router root # emerge info | grep USE
USE="crypt cups encode foomaticdb gif gtk imlib jpeg libg++ libwww mad
mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis pdflib png qt quicktime sdl
spell svga truetype xml2 xmms gdbm berkdb slang readline gpm tcpd ssl
perl python ldap -3dfx -3dnow -acpi -alsa -arts -apm -avi -dga
-directfb -dvb -dvd -esd -ev6 -evo -fbcon firebird -flash -gb -gnome
-gphoto2 -gps -kde -lirc -matrox -mbox -moziolla -oci -oss -opengl
-pam -pcmcia -pda -ruby -scanner -sse -voodoo3 -wavelan -X -Xaw3d
-xface -xinerama xv -zeo -ppc -sparc -alpha -mips -hppa -arm mmx
nocardbus x86 zlib" 
Router root #

> My first guess is that you have +gtk or +gtk2 in (some buggy ebuilds
> still think they should work if you have +gtk2 )
That was gtk (according to ufed). I took it out, do I have to restart
the still running (it will run for  some time, it
only a 233MHz machine) "emerge -uUD world" ?

> //Spider

Thx
 Timo


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Jeff Ames
> When trying to update my router, I was a bit shocked to see it wants
> to install xfree86, whereas it didn't do so in older updates and even
> though I have -X in my USE-Flags. "qpkg -q" doesn't list X as
> dependency for anything, so why is it being istalled?

Just a guess, but do you have tcltk in your USE flags?  If so, python 
will want tk, which wants virtual/x11.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge wants X on server

2003-10-15 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:15:48 +0200
Timo Boettcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When trying to update my router, I was a bit shocked to see it wants
> to install xfree86, whereas it didn't do so in older updates and even
> though I have -X in my USE-Flags. "qpkg -q" doesn't list X as
> dependency for anything, so why is it being istalled?
> 


A few of theese strikes me as possible reasons, can you please paste the
USE section from "emerge info" (No, not just make.confg. emerge info
|grep USE )

My first guess is that you have +gtk or +gtk2 in (some buggy ebuilds
still think they should work if you have +gtk2 )


//Spider


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