Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
--- Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > In my opinion you got it right. > That's only my personal experience of course. Be warned. > When using genkernel copying .config doesn't seem to work, but the > other > way works. > I've never compiled my kernels by hand, only with genkernel. Great Rumen. Thanks again. JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Joshua Banks wrote: --- Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, When using genkernel it uses config-file from /etc/kernels/default-config /i think/ not .config in the source root. I do copy .config or some old config-2.4.xx-. to default-config, reserving the original of course. Rumen. A. Thankyou Rumen. Please confirm if possible the following. Ok, so say I want to upgrade to 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 and use the same Kernel menu selections selected in 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. Are you saying that if I use "genkernel" to compile 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 that I can simply replace "etc/kernels/default-config" file with a copy of "etc/kernels/config-2.4.20-gentoo-r7" file and Genkernel will compile -r8 with my -r7 kernel menu selections correct??? If so.. Thankyou, thankyou. Heh... I didn't realize that the actual kernel menu config settings were stored in /etc/kernel directory.. Or is this only for Genkernel??? Thanks so much Rumen. Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi Joshua, In my opinion you got it right. That's only my personal experience of course. Be warned. When using genkernel copying .config doesn't seem to work, but the other way works. I've never compiled my kernels by hand, only with genkernel. Rumen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
--- Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > When using genkernel it uses config-file from > /etc/kernels/default-config /i think/ not .config in the source root. > I > do copy .config or some old config-2.4.xx-. to default-config, > reserving the original of course. > Rumen. A. Thankyou Rumen. Please confirm if possible the following. Ok, so say I want to upgrade to 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 and use the same Kernel menu selections selected in 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. Are you saying that if I use "genkernel" to compile 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 that I can simply replace "etc/kernels/default-config" file with a copy of "etc/kernels/config-2.4.20-gentoo-r7" file and Genkernel will compile -r8 with my -r7 kernel menu selections correct??? If so.. Thankyou, thankyou. Heh... I didn't realize that the actual kernel menu config settings were stored in /etc/kernel directory.. Or is this only for Genkernel??? Thanks so much Rumen. Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Joshua Banks wrote: Ok I will and try and make this simple. Say I'm using "genkernel" to automate the kernel compile: Will simply moving the ".config" from the current Kernel tree to new Kernel tree use the same menu slections that were used in the original Kernel tree? E.G. 1) mount /boot 2) cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 3) cp .config /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8/.config 4) cd /usr/src 5) rm linux 6) ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux 7) cd /usr/src/linux 8) genkernel 9) modify grub.conf to reflect the new kernel 10) umount /boot 11) shutdown -ar __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Hi, When using genkernel it uses config-file from /etc/kernels/default-config /i think/ not .config in the source root. I do copy .config or some old config-2.4.xx-. to default-config, reserving the original of course. Rumen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
- Original Message - From: "Wes Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:02PM -0800, Joshua Banks wrote: > > I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just wanted someone to > > take a look at this and tell me if this is outdated or still in its > > correctedness. It also looks as though its missing some steps > > concerning "System.map". Can someone please confirm the following > > steps. And whether or not after step 11 I should "cp System.map" to > > "/boot" Yes you should copy System.map to /boot if you want to do kernel debugging, if you don't want to do any kernel debugging System.map is useless for you and you don't have to copy it there. > > Not sure about that, I do my kernel by hand and I don't copy System.map. > Might have to do with using initrd. > > > I also don't have anything referencing "bizImage" linux directory tree. > > Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? > > bzImage is a file name for the kernel file, it's not a directory. > > [snip] > > > > [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config > > [2] cd /usr/src > > [3] rm linux > > [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux > > [5] cd /usr/src/linux > > [6] make oldconfig > > [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig > > [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install > > **My Comments** shouldn't this be "make dep && make clean bizImage > > modules modules_install" ?? > > I usually use "make dep && make ..." but the other command probably > works fine too. > > > And don't I wan't to "cd" to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree > > before issuing this step 8 command? > > The ln -s command is making "linux" a link to "linux-2.x.xx-yy", > so you already did cd there when you did the "cd /usr/src/linux" > > > [9] mount /boot (where /boot is an entry in your /etc/fstab, which > > should [normally not be mounted during normal use) > > [10] mv /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.old > > [11] cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage > > [12] edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for your new kernel and > > replace the reference to bzImage in your previous kernel entry to point > > to the deprecated kernel file (bzImage.old) > > [13] if you are using nvidia- emerge nivdia-kernel > > [14] if you are using alsa - emerge alsa-driver > > [15] edit /etc/modules.autoload to reflect any changes in modules to be > > auto loaded > > [16] unmount /boot (ie. umount /boot) > > [17] shutdown -hr now > > and voila you new kernel entry should appear in the grub menu waiting > > to be tried > > These instructions are almost exactly what I do and it works fine. I > would point out that if you previously have run genkernel in a kernel > src tree, then you should remove the tree and reemerge it before trying > to use it for a manual build. > > hth > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Ok I will and try and make this simple. Say I'm using "genkernel" to automate the kernel compile: Will simply moving the ".config" from the current Kernel tree to new Kernel tree use the same menu slections that were used in the original Kernel tree? E.G. 1) mount /boot 2) cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 3) cp .config /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8/.config 4) cd /usr/src 5) rm linux 6) ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux 7) cd /usr/src/linux 8) genkernel 9) modify grub.conf to reflect the new kernel 10) umount /boot 11) shutdown -ar __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
It's bzImage, not bizImage and it's a file. It's the generated kernel. Copy it to /boot and rename it as you please. make dep && ... and doing it all on one line are the same. the && form just quits after dep it something goes wrong but so will the other. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:19:02 -0800 Wes Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:02PM -0800, Joshua Banks wrote: I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just I also don't have anything referencing "bizImage" linux directory tree. Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? bzImage is a file name for the kernel file, it's not a directory. [snip] [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config [2] cd /usr/src [3] rm linux [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux [5] cd /usr/src/linux [6] make oldconfig [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install **My Comments** shouldn't this be "make dep && make clean bizImage modules modules_install" ?? I usually use "make dep && make ..." but the other command probably works fine too. And don't I wan't to "cd" to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree before issuing this step 8 command? These instructions are almost exactly what I do and it works fine. I would point out that if you previously have run genkernel in a kernel src tree, then you should remove the tree and reemerge it before trying to use it for a manual build. hth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:02PM -0800, Joshua Banks wrote: > I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just wanted someone to > take a look at this and tell me if this is outdated or still in its > correctedness. It also looks as though its missing some steps > concerning "System.map". Can someone please confirm the following > steps. And whether or not after step 11 I should "cp System.map" to > "/boot" Not sure about that, I do my kernel by hand and I don't copy System.map. Might have to do with using initrd. > I also don't have anything referencing "bizImage" linux directory tree. > Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? bzImage is a file name for the kernel file, it's not a directory. [snip] > > [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config > [2] cd /usr/src > [3] rm linux > [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux > [5] cd /usr/src/linux > [6] make oldconfig > [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig > [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install > **My Comments** shouldn't this be "make dep && make clean bizImage > modules modules_install" ?? I usually use "make dep && make ..." but the other command probably works fine too. > And don't I wan't to "cd" to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree > before issuing this step 8 command? The ln -s command is making "linux" a link to "linux-2.x.xx-yy", so you already did cd there when you did the "cd /usr/src/linux" > [9] mount /boot (where /boot is an entry in your /etc/fstab, which > should [normally not be mounted during normal use) > [10] mv /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.old > [11] cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage > [12] edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for your new kernel and > replace the reference to bzImage in your previous kernel entry to point > to the deprecated kernel file (bzImage.old) > [13] if you are using nvidia- emerge nivdia-kernel > [14] if you are using alsa - emerge alsa-driver > [15] edit /etc/modules.autoload to reflect any changes in modules to be > auto loaded > [16] unmount /boot (ie. umount /boot) > [17] shutdown -hr now > and voila you new kernel entry should appear in the grub menu waiting > to be tried These instructions are almost exactly what I do and it works fine. I would point out that if you previously have run genkernel in a kernel src tree, then you should remove the tree and reemerge it before trying to use it for a manual build. hth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Mea culpa. I'll simply practice what I preach and shut up about it. - Original Message - From: "Donnie Berkholz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 07:31, Joshua Banks wrote: > [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig > [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install > **My Comments** shouldn't this be "make dep && make clean bizImage Here the way I did it. make dep clean bzImage make install /// make install will copy the new kernel (vmlinuz)and system.map to /boot and also rename the old version to .old. With a bonus it's also copy your config file to /boot too. make modules make modules_install Then edit you grub or lilo as needed. Vanh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Ok. So now I'm aware of the root exploit and some of the bugs associated with -r9. Can I get a confident confirmation from someone that the following (How-To) -- Upgrade your Kernel -- listed below, is correct in its entirety?? Thanks, Joshua Banks --- Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I would > like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config > settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last > time > and this time I would like to manually do this for the learning > experience. > > I found the following on the Gentoo web forum and just wanted someone to > take a look at this and tell me if this is outdated or still in its > correctedness. It also looks as though its missing some steps > concerning "System.map". Can someone please confirm the following > steps. And whether or not after step 11 I should "cp System.map" to > "/boot" > > I also don't have anything referencing "bizImage" linux directory > tree. > Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? > > I'm running a PIII 667EB coppermine processor. > > * > If you wish to maintain as much of your old kernel configuration as > possible when installing your new kernel, copy /usr/src/linux/.config > to your new kernel tree (1), then switch to the base source directory > (2) then delete the symlink pointing to linux (3) and re-link linux > to > your new kernel tree (4), now enter your new linux directory (5) and > run make oldconfig (6) - this attempts to preserve existing kernel > configurations - you will be prompted to make choices regarding new > kernel options (and if you don't know whether or not to enable some > option, simply pressing usually selects "No". Once you have > completed this step, then you should run make menuconfig (or make > xconfig) (7) and then carefully look over the sections involved in > selecting file systems, printer setup, usb setup and possible scsi > emulation-the time spent here can save much time and many needed > re-compiles later. After you have finished configuring the kernel, > you > must compile and install your new kernel. (8-17) (in step format:) > > [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config > [2] cd /usr/src > [3] rm linux > [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux > [5] cd /usr/src/linux > [6] make oldconfig > [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig > [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install > **My Comments** shouldn't this be "make dep && make clean bizImage > modules modules_install" ?? > And don't I wan't to "cd" to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree > before issuing this step 8 command? > > [9] mount /boot (where /boot is an entry in your /etc/fstab, which > should [normally not be mounted during normal use) > [10] mv /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.old > [11] cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage > [12] edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for your new kernel > and > replace the reference to bzImage in your previous kernel entry to > point > to the deprecated kernel file (bzImage.old) > [13] if you are using nvidia- emerge nivdia-kernel > [14] if you are using alsa - emerge alsa-driver > [15] edit /etc/modules.autoload to reflect any changes in modules to > be > auto loaded > [16] unmount /boot (ie. umount /boot) > [17] shutdown -hr now > and voila you new kernel entry should appear in the grub menu waiting > to be tried > > Thanks, > Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:10, Joshua Banks wrote: > --- Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. > > I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. > > > So, does -r7 suffer from the same root exploit? Yes, everything below -r9 does. > > gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, > > as > > is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in > > portage. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
--- Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 03:38, Dennis Robertson wrote: > > No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the > > upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the > subject of a > > security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us > encountered > > bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the > time > > being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. > > Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. > I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. So, does -r7 suffer from the same root exploit? > gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, > as > is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in > portage. > Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
TOP POSTING this one: Ahhh.. Thanks Dennis. I will hold-off on upgrading then. Much appreciated. I would still like to get some confirmation on the info from my original posting (the one before this) from any of the seasoned kernel hackers out there please. Thanks, Joshua Banks --- Dennis Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Joshua Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:31 PM > Subject: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade > > > > Hello, > > > > Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I > would > > like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config > > settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last > time > > and this time I would like to manually do this for learning > experience. > > > No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the > upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the > subject of a > security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us > encountered > bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the > time > being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. > Regards. > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 03:38, Dennis Robertson wrote: > No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the > upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a > security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered > bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time > being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, as is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in portage. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
- Original Message - From: "Joshua Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade > Hello, > > Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I would > like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config > settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last time > and this time I would like to manually do this for learning experience. > No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Regards. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 17:29, Barry Marler wrote: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:17:15 +0100 > Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I copied the config file in /etc/kernels/... > > Genkernel uses that file if it exists. > > > > Everything went fine, execpt that USB seems broken in gentoo-r9 (at > > least on my system). > > > > If you wished to preserve the functionality you compiled into r8, you should have > used its .config. USB isn't broken in r9. I did copy my file, but as I use genkernel I need the files in /etc/kernels, genkernel reported which config it used, and that was correct. Anyhow, I tried XFS sources and gentoo-sources-2.4.22-r1 and they work. USB is broken for my system (maybe chipset/mobo related) in 2.4.20-r9, the rest of the kernel is identical in functionality to my -r8 one. -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On Monday 08 December 2003 18:37, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: > On 2003-12-08, David Gethings wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David Gethings wrote: > > > If you wish to change the kernel config use 'genkernel --config'. If > > > not then just run 'genkernel'. > > > > Sorry, forgot to mention. If you do not run genkernel with --config then > > it does a 'make oldconfig'. AFAIK this is just basic config that comes > > with the kernel so it will not include your options. > > > > To include your option from the previous release then copy .config from > > the old kernel version to the new. i.e. cp gentoo-r8/.config gentoo-r9/ > > > > Then you can run genkernel and it will honour your old options. > > > > If I am wrong then please someone say so. As this is how I do and if it > > is wrong then build is potentially broken! :P > > I don't know if you are totally wrong, but this is what i dug out; if > you take a look at the /usr/sbin/genkernel script then you can see that > it is supposed to search for a file called /etc/kernels/default-config > which is *Automatically generated by make menuconfig*! > It seems to be my default kernel-config file, am I right? > In that case genkernel should be using that file... > > Cheers, > /HÖ True. When compiled a new 2.4.23-grsec kernel, updating 2.4.22-grsec: 1.Changed linux link to the new source; 2.copied .config from old /2.4.22/ to new /2.4.23/; 3.run genkernel --config and it used /etc/kernels/default-config - not what i wanted; 4.backed up default-config and put over my 2.4.22-config as default-config; 5.run genkernel --config and it worked. Hope this helps. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 December 2003 19:30, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: > On 2003-12-08, Mike Williams wrote: > > genkernel creates an /etc/kernels/config- per kernel version. > > When I change kernel, but want to keep the old config (as best is > > possible) I copy the config- to the new version and genkernel > > away. > > Ok, that's interesting. What if you want to change kernel version? > I didn't cp any file, just ran genkernel in the new kernels directory. > After reboot (sic) evrything seems to be just the way it was before, > except the now the kernel is *-r9...:-) It will fall back to the default-config as you saw. I always make a lot of changes to the config, so the default doesn't suit me. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1NTPInuLMrk7bIwRAjFAAKCo9fo05oqg4cqbh5uEo4FOvegTQgCgrzXa IuTzWxBZe7DAyH7pZRIORGc= =JYct -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On 2003-12-08, Mike Williams wrote: > > genkernel creates an /etc/kernels/config- per kernel version. > When I change kernel, but want to keep the old config (as best is possible) I > copy the config- to the new version and genkernel away. > Ok, that's interesting. What if you want to change kernel version? I didn't cp any file, just ran genkernel in the new kernels directory. After reboot (sic) evrything seems to be just the way it was before, except the now the kernel is *-r9...:-) Cheers, /HÖ -- /// Helgi Örn Helgason, Registered GNU/Linux User: #189958 \\\ \\\ ~~ Gentoo 1.4 ~ Kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 ~ KDE 3.1.4 ~~ /// pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 December 2003 16:37, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: > I don't know if you are totally wrong, but this is what i dug out; if > you take a look at the /usr/sbin/genkernel script then you can see that > it is supposed to search for a file called /etc/kernels/default-config > which is *Automatically generated by make menuconfig*! > It seems to be my default kernel-config file, am I right? > In that case genkernel should be using that file... genkernel creates an /etc/kernels/config- per kernel version. When I change kernel, but want to keep the old config (as best is possible) I copy the config- to the new version and genkernel away. - -- Mike Williams -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1LNzInuLMrk7bIwRAmtzAJ9dmjQp4MYZGaauSgia31Fvqy6gHACcDas+ E1tO33D5TsEID0gwrPAHVuM= =AKNL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On 2003-12-08, David Gethings wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David Gethings wrote: > > If you wish to change the kernel config use 'genkernel --config'. If not > > then just run 'genkernel'. > Sorry, forgot to mention. If you do not run genkernel with --config then > it does a 'make oldconfig'. AFAIK this is just basic config that comes > with the kernel so it will not include your options. > > To include your option from the previous release then copy .config from > the old kernel version to the new. i.e. cp gentoo-r8/.config gentoo-r9/ > > Then you can run genkernel and it will honour your old options. > > If I am wrong then please someone say so. As this is how I do and if it > is wrong then build is potentially broken! :P > I don't know if you are totally wrong, but this is what i dug out; if you take a look at the /usr/sbin/genkernel script then you can see that it is supposed to search for a file called /etc/kernels/default-config which is *Automatically generated by make menuconfig*! It seems to be my default kernel-config file, am I right? In that case genkernel should be using that file... Cheers, /HÖ -- /// Helgi Örn Helgason, Registered GNU/Linux User: #189958 \\\ \\\ ~~ Gentoo 1.4 * Kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 * KDE 3.1.4 ~~ /// pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:17:15 +0100 Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I copied the config file in /etc/kernels/... > Genkernel uses that file if it exists. > > Everything went fine, execpt that USB seems broken in gentoo-r9 (at > least on my system). If you wished to preserve the functionality you compiled into r8, you should have used its .config. USB isn't broken in r9. -- Barry Marler Information Analyst II Center for Applied Genetic Technologies University of Georgia Athens, GA USA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
I copied the config file in /etc/kernels/... Genkernel uses that file if it exists. Everything went fine, execpt that USB seems broken in gentoo-r9 (at least on my system). On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 16:49, David Gethings wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David Gethings wrote: > > If you wish to change the kernel config use 'genkernel --config'. If not > > then just run 'genkernel'. > Sorry, forgot to mention. If you do not run genkernel with --config then > it does a 'make oldconfig'. AFAIK this is just basic config that comes > with the kernel so it will not include your options. > > To include your option from the previous release then copy .config from > the old kernel version to the new. i.e. cp gentoo-r8/.config gentoo-r9/ > > Then you can run genkernel and it will honour your old options. > > If I am wrong then please someone say so. As this is how I do and if it > is wrong then build is potentially broken! :P > > Cheers > > Dg > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David Gethings wrote: > If you wish to change the kernel config use 'genkernel --config'. If not > then just run 'genkernel'. Sorry, forgot to mention. If you do not run genkernel with --config then it does a 'make oldconfig'. AFAIK this is just basic config that comes with the kernel so it will not include your options. To include your option from the previous release then copy .config from the old kernel version to the new. i.e. cp gentoo-r8/.config gentoo-r9/ Then you can run genkernel and it will honour your old options. If I am wrong then please someone say so. As this is how I do and if it is wrong then build is potentially broken! :P Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel upgrade
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:30, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote: > I want to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 to 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 as > recommended. I used genkernel when I installed the kernel the first > time. Should I use genkernel also when I upgrade? You certainly can. If you do then you will need to check the /usr/src/linux is linked to to the new release. If you wish to change the kernel config use 'genkernel --config'. If not then just run 'genkernel'. This is how I do it. I use genkernel because I am lazy. Although there maybe better/other reasons for using it - or not as the case meybe. Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
To funny Stephen.. :D JBanks --- Stephen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As root: > > > cd /usr/src > > > rm linux > > > ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux > > > cd linux > > > mount /boot > > > genkernel > > LOL im not gifted enough in the ways of scripting to do it yet plus my > linux died ok ok i killed it, (accident) and im using win2k at the moment > (gaming reasons) its a demo version. anyways id like to see a script that > does all that goey kernel stuff for ya! LOL actually why not cron a script > that does new kernel gen + updating system :-p altho if something died you > wouldnt know why. hey what happens if you shut down your system over > nights (home system conserve electricity) and you have in a daily cronjob > to do something? it just gets done the next time you log on right? im sure > it does has too lol geeks and that wierd to put a kink in it like that... > oh well lol curiosity got me. > > = > ** computers are a lot like air conditioners, they stop working properly once you > open windows > ** > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
> > As root: > > cd /usr/src > > rm linux > > ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux > > cd linux > > mount /boot > > genkernel LOL im not gifted enough in the ways of scripting to do it yet plus my linux died ok ok i killed it, (accident) and im using win2k at the moment (gaming reasons) its a demo version. anyways id like to see a script that does all that goey kernel stuff for ya! LOL actually why not cron a script that does new kernel gen + updating system :-p altho if something died you wouldnt know why. hey what happens if you shut down your system over nights (home system conserve electricity) and you have in a daily cronjob to do something? it just gets done the next time you log on right? im sure it does has too lol geeks and that wierd to put a kink in it like that... oh well lol curiosity got me. = ** computers are a lot like air conditioners, they stop working properly once you open windows ** __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Christian Herzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can copy your old .config file to the new directory. If you run make > oldconfig after that your are prompted for all new modules to say if you > want to include them or not, so you don't have to check every page in > menuconfig. Thanks for the reply Christian this is very helpful. Much appreciated. I also found this link to be helpful as well. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=35323 Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Joshua Banks wrote: --- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this already though, as this is the only choice at this point. Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use the settings used in the previous kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel menu and reconfigure all the kernel settings manually each time? Hi Joshua, you can copy your old .config file to the new directory. If you run make oldconfig after that your are prompted for all new modules to say if you want to include them or not, so you don't have to check every page in menuconfig. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Jeffrey Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do realize when your on a menu item, hitting the help button explains what that > item is?? > Some has really good info, some is a little sparse but its always helped me on items > I didn't > know. Including what the name of the module will be if it has that option. Woops.. Always overlooking the obvious.. I'm sure this will help. Thanks Jeffrey. JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Jeffrey Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, genkernel is just a bash wrapper. IN the beginning of it, it has some options, > for example > you can default the menuconfig to yes if you want. Cool.. Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Yeah, genkernel is just a bash wrapper. IN the beginning of it, it has some options, for example you can default the menuconfig to yes if you want. > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. > > > > --- Jeffrey Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the > source, you can actually default it > > to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if > it had something in conf.d/ to > > change.. > > > > If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. > > What do you mean, look at the source? Genkernel itself? > > JBanks > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
You do realize when your on a menu item, hitting the help button explains what that item is?? Some has really good info, some is a little sparse but its always helped me on items I didn't know. Including what the name of the module will be if it has that option. > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. > > > --- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: > > > > try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu > settings and modules > > you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a > man page or a -h or > > --help option! > > > Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this > already though, as this is the only > choice at this point. > > Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use > the settings used in the previous > kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel > menu and reconfigure all the kernel > settings manually each time? > > I'm seriously doing as much reading as possible on this > subject but I find myself getting lost in > the vast amount of info on this subject. Not trying to make > excuses but its hard to stay goal > centric trying to sift through mounds of info trying to find > what fits and what doesn't for what > I'm actually trying to accomplish. > > I realize I'm not going to understand this over night. This > is all I really want. > My goal is to understand to a degree what can be added and > removed safely (in regards to the > hardware that I have on this pc) from the kernel > setup-menuconfig, starting from the top of the > kernel menu and working all the way down to the bottom. > > I understand that most Kernel menuconfig-setup > options/selections will differ from one user to the > next, but any general examples would be nice. > Is there any info out on the web that walks > beginners or even non-beginners > through the Kernel-menu-config from top to bottom? Possibly > explaining each menu option along the > way.. :) This would be ideal. Even more ideal would be > examples for the PIII architecture if > possible. > > Thanks, > Joshua Banks > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- Jeffrey Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the source, you can actually > default it > to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if it had something in > conf.d/ to > change.. > > If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. What do you mean, look at the source? Genkernel itself? JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
--- David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: > > try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules > you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or > --help option! Thanks for the suggestion. I actually planned on doing this already though, as this is the only choice at this point. Next time I upgrade the Kernel, is there a way to have it use the settings used in the previous kernel setup? Or do we actually have to go into the kernel menu and reconfigure all the kernel settings manually each time? I'm seriously doing as much reading as possible on this subject but I find myself getting lost in the vast amount of info on this subject. Not trying to make excuses but its hard to stay goal centric trying to sift through mounds of info trying to find what fits and what doesn't for what I'm actually trying to accomplish. I realize I'm not going to understand this over night. This is all I really want. My goal is to understand to a degree what can be added and removed safely (in regards to the hardware that I have on this pc) from the kernel setup-menuconfig, starting from the top of the kernel menu and working all the way down to the bottom. I understand that most Kernel menuconfig-setup options/selections will differ from one user to the next, but any general examples would be nice. Is there any info out on the web that walks beginners or even non-beginners through the Kernel-menu-config from top to bottom? Possibly explaining each menu option along the way.. :) This would be ideal. Even more ideal would be examples for the PIII architecture if possible. Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
Genkernel will actually do even more then that, look at the source, you can actually default it to use config and a few other options as well.. Be nice if it had something in conf.d/ to change.. If I get some free time, I might change it myself and submit it. > -Original Message- > From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question.. > > > On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: > > try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu > settings and modules > you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man > page or a -h or > --help option! > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:16 am, Joshua Banks wrote: try genkernel --config and then make sure the cpu settings and modules you want are included. Would be nice if genkernel had a man page or a -h or --help option! > I just recently upgraded KDE from 3.1.2 to 3.1.3. This went smoothly. > I then upgraded my Kernel from 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 to 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. > > This is how I did the kernel upgrade. (please let me know if there's a > better way to do this. As I'm new to compiling the kernel and the upgrade > didn't seem to load the settings that the other kernel was using) > > As root: > cd /usr/src > rm linux > ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux > cd linux > mount /boot > genkernel > > Once "genkernel" completes, I go to /grub/grub.conf and modify this so that > its pointing to the newer upgraded kernel. > > Then, > umount /boot > reboot > > Now I must of done something wrong because then all of the sudden my > desktop and icons are huge and chageing the resolution doesn't seem to do > anything to make the overall desktop area smaller. I can manually adjust > icon sizes and tool bar settings but it doesn't seem to allow me adjust the > overall resolution. Even know I have it set for 1280x1024 24bit depth, > everything is still as though I have the desktop set to 800x600. > > So I started digging around to check some logs and this is what I found. > > <> = my comments > cat kdm.log > etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: line 7: /usr/kde/3.1/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or > directory sessions: SessionTypes=Xsession,kde-3.1.2,kde-3.1.3, > Changing kdmrc in /usr/kde/3.1 > Changing kdmrc in /usr > > > modprobe: Can't locate module agpgart > [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" > > > modprobe: Can't locate module radeon > [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > kernel last time that it never complained about my radeon card?> > > Is there a file still left around like kernel.config with the kernel > settings from the kernel I was using before the upgrade. > > I'm really confused. Now when I look at the kernel with "genkernel > --config" it lists my processor as i386 when I'm using an Intel PIII 666eb > coppermine. There's also a ton of stuff that I believe that I could turn > off but don't know if its safe or not. I.E.. bluetooth, ir stuff, token > ring, ect.. ect... > > I'm using PPP to get out to the internet and I have one nic card for the > internal lan. I have a HP Deskjet printer via 25pin parallel cable and a > 32MB ATI Radeon vid card. > > When I did the intial install everything seemed to go very smoothly. After > that I emerged KDE which loaded Xfree as well and then used "XFree86 > -configure" to create an XF86Config file and am using KDM as my display > manager. > > What did I do wrong? > > Thanks, > Joshua Banks > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Categorical Imperative: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law." --Immanuel Kant: (Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals) (1785) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade question..
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 04:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just recently upgraded KDE from 3.1.2 to 3.1.3. This went smoothly. > I then upgraded my Kernel from 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 to 2.4.20-gentoo-r7. > > This is how I did the kernel upgrade. (please let me know if there's a better > way to do this. As I'm new to compiling the kernel and the upgrade didn't seem > to load the settings that the other kernel was using) > > As root: > cd /usr/src > rm linux > ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 linux > cd linux > mount /boot > genkernel > > Once "genkernel" completes, I go to /grub/grub.conf and modify this so that > its pointing to the newer upgraded kernel. > > Then, > umount /boot > reboot > > modprobe: Can't locate module agpgart > [drm] failed to load kernel module "agpgart" > > > modprobe: Can't locate module radeon > [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > kernel last time that it never complained about my radeon card?> > Radeon users please speak up. I use nvidia, and anytime the kernel changes, I need to re-emerge the nvidia-... packages. Probably the same is needed for radeon. Not sure whether the same applies to the agpgart error. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade
Timothy James Friesen said: > Hello all, > > I emerged kernel 2.4.20-rc1 today. /usr/src/linux still points to my > 2.4.19-rc10 kernel. What should I do about this? The symlink has to be made manually by you. Some people like to have multiple kernel trees for testing different things so the ebuilds do not mess with your symlinks. You can manually add a couple of commands to /etc/conf.d/local.start to make the symlink at boot time, uname -r will give you the version of the running kernel > I assume I should > only unmerge 2.4.19-rc10 after succesfully compiling 2.4.20-rc1. Unmerging the kernel will only remove the sources in /usr/src/linux-2.4.19-rc10 not the actual kernel that you installed into /boot. But it is a good idea to keep it around until you get your new kernel successfully built and booted. > Also. Will emerge -u world take me to the altest 1.4-rc3 release once > all the mirrors catch up, or will I have to do another emerge command? See the seperate email that I'm posting here shortly. -- Troy Dack http://linux.tkdack.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://webportage.sf.net Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4D90BE3C Key fingerprint = 1F3D 6C15 16AA 09D5 0C96 92E5 FD89 16F9 4D90 BE3C -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade
You need to remove the old symlink and create a new sym link towards the new kernel which you have just downloaded: cd /usr/src && rm linux && ln -s /usr/src/kernelyouwanttouse linux if you want to remove the old kernel sources you need to find it in: /usr/portage/sys-kernel/kernelyouwanttoremove then you need to: ebuild kernelyouwantoremove.ebuild unmerge Hope that helps, Louis Candell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
