Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on slashdot yet ;-) I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several improvements for laptops (acpi etc). Greetings Ralph Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 > series. > What do you think about ? > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
We'll have to test it, won't we? ;) On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:48:22 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 series. > What do you think about ? > > -- > No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. > ~ Charles M. Schulz > But sometimes run fast is better > ~ Francesco R. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 series. What do you think about ? It's simplistic but I would say every release of the kernel ought to be more stable than the previous one. After all, the Changelogs are very long and full of patches. Those patches are bound to be doing good. On a more practical side, I never had even one problem with 2.6 kernels... I think I started around 2.6.5 though and mostly ran them extensively in server roles without major stress. My user experience is all positive Eugene. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Ralph Slooten wrote: Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on slashdot yet ;-) Its been announced on one of the mailing lists. I get it through gmane.linux.kernel.announce newsgroup. Eugene. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Ralph Slooten ha scritto: Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on slashdot yet ;-) Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing list with a very clear subject ;) I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several improvements for laptops (acpi etc). Greetings Ralph Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 series. What do you think about ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still happens? On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ralph Slooten ha scritto: > > Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on > > slashdot yet ;-) > > Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing > list with a very clear subject ;) > > > > > I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain > > about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I > > only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's > > all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several > > improvements for laptops (acpi etc). > > > > Greetings > > Ralph > > > > Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > > > >>Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 > >>series. > >>What do you think about ? > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- > No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. > ~ Charles M. Schulz > But sometimes run fast is better > ~ Francesco R. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Hi Raphael, what are your problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x?. I'm running oracle on gentoo 2.6.7 kernel without problems? Ulli Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2005, 13:50 + schrieb Raphael Melo: > By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still > happens? > > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ralph Slooten ha scritto: > > > Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on > > > slashdot yet ;-) > > > > Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing > > list with a very clear subject ;) > > > > > > > > I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain > > > about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I > > > only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's > > > all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several > > > improvements for laptops (acpi etc). > > > > > > Greetings > > > Ralph > > > > > > Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > > > > > >>Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 > > >>series. > > >>What do you think about ? > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. > > ~ Charles M. Schulz > > But sometimes run fast is better > > ~ Francesco R. > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- Ulrich Anhalt SAP R/3 Basis Administration bhn Dienstleistungs GmbH&Co KG Hans Lenze Str. 1 31855 Aerzen Tel 05154/82-1271 Fax 05154/82-1364 Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
It has just been released on www.kernel.org Happy compiling ;) > > Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on > > slashdot yet ;-) > > Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing > list with a very clear subject ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? Michael Turcotte Information Systems City of North Bay 200 McIntyre St. E PO Box 360 North Bay, Ontario P1B 8H8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca -Original Message- From: Marko Kocic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out It has just been released on www.kernel.org Happy compiling ;) > > Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on > > slashdot yet ;-) > > Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing > list with a very clear subject ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: > I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to > take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow. -- Neil Bothwick "Bother," said Pooh, as the Death Star exploded around him. pgpwnzgL2NhUY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Mike Turcotte wrote: I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? Michael Turcotte Information Systems City of North Bay 200 McIntyre St. E PO Box 360 North Bay, Ontario P1B 8H8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cityofnorthbay.ca -Original Message- From: Marko Kocic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out It has just been released on www.kernel.org Happy compiling ;) Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on slashdot yet ;-) Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing list with a very clear subject ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Usually at most a day or two, but could be available even later today, it'll be in development-sources first. HTH Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: > > > I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to > > take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? > > development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in > Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow. > Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both listed on packages.gentoo.org. Could someone explain me what's the difference between them? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:11, Marko Kocic wrote: > Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both > listed on packages.gentoo.org. > Could someone explain me what's the difference between them? IIRC, they are the same. vanilla-sources is the new name for the standard kernel sources. I guess you are encouraged to use the new name. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Marko Kocic wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow. Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both listed on packages.gentoo.org. Could someone explain me what's the difference between them? To the best of my knowlege, none; afaik, this relates to the transition between the 2004.3 profile (under which development-sources is the 2.6 series kernel from kernel.org, and vanilla-sources is the 'default' 2.4 series kernel), and the forthcoming 2005.0 profile (under which the 2.6 kernel becomes default, so vanilla-sources refers to the 2.6-series kernel from kerne.org, and development-sources... goes away, I guess, unless it becomes a reference to *real* development sources, like 2.7/2.8). So I would imagine that they both point to the same kernel, but this is a transitional phase until the 2005.0 profile is actually released. Corrections gratefully accepted, but I think that's how it's working atm. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Marko Kocic ha scritto: On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:54:34 +, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:38:18 -0500, Mike Turcotte wrote: I am fairly new to Gentoo and portage. How long are you expecting it to take before the new kernel is 'emergable'? development-sources-2.6.11, the vanilla 2.6.11 kernel, is already in Portage. I expect gentoo-dev-sources will be upgraded by tomorrow. Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both listed on packages.gentoo.org. Could someone explain me what's the difference between them? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list #diff -U 0\ development-sources/development-sources-2.6.11_rc5.ebuild \ vanilla-sources/vanilla-sources-2.6.11_rc5.ebuild @@ -12 +12 @@ -DESCRIPTION="Full sources for the vanilla 2.6 kernel tree" +DESCRIPTION="Full sources for the Linux kernel" no differences for the moment, probably when 2.7 will be out vanilla will follow the 2.6 series, development the 2.7 one -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:11:35 +0100, Marko Kocic wrote: > Both development-sources-2.6.11 and vanilla-sources-2.6.11 are both > listed on packages.gentoo.org. > Could someone explain me what's the difference between them? vanilla-sources-2.6.11 is hard masked. It is ready for when 2.6 becomes the default kernel with the 2005.0 release; vanilla-sources and gentoo-sources will replace development-source and gentoo-dev-sources respectively. -- Neil Bothwick Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world. pgpyADoo5uZE9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Raphael Melo wrote: By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still happens? In my experirence Oracle tends to care more about the version of your C libraries and gcc than the kernel. There are a few posts on the forums about getting the right libs for Oracle under Gentoo. I've current got Oracle 10g running on RHEL v4 which is using kernel 2.6.9. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Hi all I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box. Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: -- make[3]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv] Error 2 NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[1]: *** [module] Error 1 make: *** [module] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed. !!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2 !!! Unable to make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux clean module. !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Anyone else got this error ?? Thanks.. PS Besides nvidia error everything else is fine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
no differences for the moment, probably when 2.7 will be out vanilla will follow the 2.6 series, development the 2.7 one as Neil pointed out >=sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6 is masked so what I've said before is *not* true. You may want to use development-sources untill 2.6 will be unmasked. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > vanilla-sources-2.6.11 is hard masked. It is ready for when 2.6 becomes > the default kernel with the 2005.0 release; vanilla-sources and > gentoo-sources will replace development-source and gentoo-dev-sources > respectively. Since they really point to the same packages, if one is already using development-sources and linux26-headers, it's possible to have them with the new names, using an appropriate /etc/portage/package.unmask file. That's what I did (sort of mini-howto, "Works For Me" (tm), FWIW): - I had development-sources-2.6.11_rc5 and linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 - emerge -C development-sources - emerge -C linux26-headers - echo "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords - echo "sys-kernel/linux-headers ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords (just changed the old development-sources and linux26-headers entries) - echo "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask - echo "<=sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask (the latter I did since I don't want linux-headers-2.6.10 yet) - emerge linux-headers (brings in linux headers 2.6.8.1-r2) - emerge vanilla-sources (brings in linux-2.6.11_rc5) and I have the same setup as before, but with the new names. -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day; if you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Adis Beglerovic ha scritto: Hi all I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box. Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: -- make[3]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv] Error 2 NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[1]: *** [module] Error 1 make: *** [module] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed. !!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2 !!! Unable to make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux clean module. !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Anyone else got this error ?? yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11. Thanks.. PS Besides nvidia error everything else is fine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100, Adis Beglerovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box. > Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources Regards, -- Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Well this is the first time that nvidia-kernel can't compile with vanilla kernel downloaded from kernel.org. There must be something that can be done ? New version of nvidia-kernel maybe ? Thanks On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:03:06 +, Richard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:34:12 +0100, Adis Beglerovic > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box. > > Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: > > nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait > for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources > > Regards, > > -- > Richard > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:55, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11. I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 with 2.6.11-rc5 with no problem. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Yes Using ~x86 packages of nvidia made possible to compile it with vanilla 2.6.11. So fix is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx Good luck On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:12:40 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:55, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > > > yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11. > > I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 with 2.6.11-rc5 with no problem. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:19:49 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > IIRC, they are the same. vanilla-sources is the new name for the > standard kernel sources. > I guess you are encouraged to use the new name. You still have to use the old name, for now. vanilla-sources-2.6 is hard masked. $ grep vanilla /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask -B 7 # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/12/2004) # Masking all 2.6 versions of kernel packages which were originally # 2.4 only so that we can merge 2.6 with 2.4 without forcing a # mass upgrade. >=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6 >=sys-kernel/hardened-sources-2.6 >=sys-kernel/rsbac-sources-2.6 >=sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6 -- Neil Bothwick By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends. pgpIqZJY1FmJ9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 18:09, Adis Beglerovic wrote: > Well this is the first time that nvidia-kernel can't compile with vanilla > kernel downloaded from kernel.org. There must be something that can be done > ? New version of nvidia-kernel maybe ? > Thanks nope, it isn't. There are a lot of patches out in the wild to make certain driver versions work with various kernels. Have you already tried the latest version? (not the latest stable version) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 05:55:38PM +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > Adis Beglerovic ha scritto: > >[/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o] > >Error 1 > >make[2]: *** > >[_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv] > >Error 2 > >NVIDIA: left KBUILD. > >nvidia.ko failed to build! > >make[1]: *** [module] Error 1 > >make: *** [module] Error 2 > >Anyone else got this error ?? > > yes, yesterday, with 2.6.11-rc5, that is quite the same as 2.6.11. > > the bug has been known since 2.6.11rc2 Use keyword ~x86 and emerge nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r2 or higher. nvidia submitted a patch, but it is not marked stable yet. W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * The Short History of Medicine 2000 B.C. - Here, eat this root 1000 A.D. - That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer. 1850 A.D. - That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion. 1940 A.D. - That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill. 1985 A.D. - That pill is ineffective. Here, take this antibiotic. 2000 A.D. - That antibiotic doesn't work any more. Here, eat this root. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 11:00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Richard Brown wrote: nvidia-kernel won't work with a vanilla 2.6.11, you'll have to wait for an ebuild for ck or gentoo-dev-sources I don't think you are right here. gentoo-dev-sources is not patched with anything that would aid nvidia compatibility. I think you might be right in saying that nvidia's own driver release doesn't compile against 2.6.11 (yet). But in portage, we patch nvidia's driver (nvidia-kernel) with fixes for this. Using the latest testing version of nvidia-kernel should be fine. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Adis Beglerovic wrote: Using ~x86 packages of nvidia made possible to compile it with vanilla 2.6.11. So fix is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx Waah! ='( Bad Gentooer! No cookie for you! If you are not using a full ~arch system but want certain packages from ~arch, you should add those packages to your /etc/portage/package.keywords file (create it if it doesn't yet exist); like so: media-video/nvidia-glx~x86 media-video/nvidia-kernel ~x86 Dang it..this is one reason I hate proprietary drivers. The 1.0-6629 driver doesn't work for me (Riva TNT2 M64), and the compile fix isn't being backported to 1.0-6111 *sigh* Ah well. nv suits me fine until I get my shiny new R9250 from NewEgg =) -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. --- Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key ID: 0x109DBECE GPG Key Fingerprint (SHA1): E485 E2F7 11CE F9B2 E3D9 C95D 208F B732 109D BECE Encrypted and/or Signed correspondence preffered. GPG Public Key available upon request or from pgp.mit.edu's public key server. --- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
This will probably stir up some flames, but: the package.keywords system sucks 1. you put things in there and you forget about them 2. extra work for no user gain over the old system (I know the old system is broke, but from what I agther it was broken on purpose to create the package.keyword system.) 3. more complex than the simple system it replaced - it is now quite hard to work out the interactions sometimes 4. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS seems to work well for a half doz or so ~x86 packages I will probably have to use them next time I rebuild world with a -e, but after stuffing things up over a couple of months with the package.keywords and related files, wasting time trying find whats gone wrong, I am better off doing the ACCEPT keywords kludge and getting on with actually using the system. At least when you do an update, you SEE what is ~x86, not have it hidden away in the depths building up problems. Maybe a bad gentooer, but at least I am happy that I am doing things in a way that I understand, and works the way I want it to! BillK On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 22:02 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote: > Adis Beglerovic wrote: > > Using ~x86 packages of nvidia made possible to compile it with vanilla > > 2.6.11. > > So fix is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx > > Waah! ='( > > Bad Gentooer! No cookie for you! > > --- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Thursday 03 March 2005 12:02 am, Peter Gordon wrote: > Dang it..this is one reason I hate proprietary drivers. The 1.0-6629 driver > doesn't work for me (Riva TNT2 M64), and the compile fix isn't being > backported to 1.0-6111 *sigh* Ah well. nv suits me fine until I get my > shiny new R9250 from NewEgg =) > Put the following in your /etc/portage/package.mask (create the file if it doesn't exist) : >=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629 >=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629 Then emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx and try this version of the nvidia driver. All versions above nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 do not work for me. So I finally just excepted that fact and masked everything >=1.0.6629. -- Chris Linux 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 00:12:54 up 1 day, 2:56, 7 users, load average: 7.63, 7.71, 6.94 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Adis Beglerovic ha scritto: Hi all I've just downloaded 2.6.11 and compile it om my gentoo desktop box. Tried to add/compile nvidia-kernel but got error that says: -- make[3]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1/usr/src/nv] Error 2 NVIDIA: left KBUILD. nvidia.ko failed to build! make[1]: *** [module] Error 1 make: *** [module] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1 failed. !!! Function linux-mod_src_compile, Line 417, Exitcode 2 !!! Unable to make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/usr/src/linux clean module. !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Anyone else got this error ?? Thanks.. PS Besides nvidia error everything else is fine yesterday, I've removed rc5 (that had problems with vidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 too ) and compiled the same version for 2.6.11, without problems. Try to use vidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r3 following the other usefull posts on this thread ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
When I tried to install it, there were problems with shared memory. But it was on 2.6.4 I guess. They probably fixed it. On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:13:18 +0100, Ulrich Anhalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Raphael, > > what are your problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x?. I'm running oracle > on gentoo 2.6.7 kernel without problems? > > Ulli > > Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2005, 13:50 + schrieb Raphael Melo: > > By the way, I had problems with oracle on kernel 2.6.x. Does that still > > happens? > > > > > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:25:55 +0100, Bastian Balthazar Bux > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ralph Slooten ha scritto: > > > > Good observation .. it's not even on the front page on kernel.org or on > > > > slashdot yet ;-) > > > > > > Well not so difficult, Linus Torwalds post on the linux kernel mailing > > > list with a very clear subject ;) > > > > > > > > > > > I am using the 2.6.11-rc5 version on my laptop which I cannot complain > > > > about. I haven't gotten around to testing all the extra hardware yet (I > > > > only installed it 2 days ago), so I guess I cannot accurately say it's > > > > all good ... I read a post though (by Linus) that mentioned several > > > > improvements for laptops (acpi etc). > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: > > > > > > > >>Rumors are that this will be the more stable version of the last 2.6 > > > >>series. > > > >>What do you think about ? > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. > > > ~ Charles M. Schulz > > > But sometimes run fast is better > > > ~ Francesco R. > > > -- > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > -- > > Ulrich Anhalt > SAP R/3 Basis Administration > > bhn Dienstleistungs GmbH&Co KG > Hans Lenze Str. 1 > 31855 Aerzen > > Tel 05154/82-1271 > Fax 05154/82-1364 > Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Chris Cox wrote: Put the following in your /etc/portage/package.mask (create the file if it doesn't exist) : >=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629 >=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.6629 Then emerge nvidia-kernel nvidia-glx and try this version of the nvidia driver. All versions above nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3 do not work for me. So I finally just excepted that fact and masked everything >=1.0.6629. Thanks, but I've already added those to my package.mask, but the 1.0-6111 nVidia kernel module refuses to compile on 2.6.11 and most its the release candidates for me. I'm ok with it though. I rarely play games and I have no need for hardware which can only work with proprietary drivers. Is it idealistic? Very. Is it impractical? Probably to some. The less proprietary software I use the better. Coincidentally, I haven't had X hardlock on me for quite some time now... ;-) Thanks anyway though. :-) -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. --- Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key ID: 0x109DBECE GPG Key Fingerprint (SHA1): E485 E2F7 11CE F9B2 E3D9 C95D 208F B732 109D BECE Encrypted and/or Signed correspondence preffered. GPG Public Key available upon request or from pgp.mit.edu's public key server. --- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote: > This will probably stir up some flames, but: > > the package.keywords system sucks > > 1. you put things in there and you forget about them > 2. extra work for no user gain over the old system (I know the old > system is broke, but from what I agther it was broken on purpose to > create the package.keyword system.) > 3. more complex than the simple system it replaced - it is now quite > hard to work out the interactions sometimes > 4. ACCEPT_KEYWORDS seems to work well for a half doz or so ~x86 packages > > I will probably have to use them next time I rebuild world with a -e, > but after stuffing things up over a couple of months with the > package.keywords and related files, wasting time trying find whats gone > wrong, I am better off doing the ACCEPT keywords kludge and getting on > with actually using the system. At least when you do an update, you SEE > what is ~x86, not have it hidden away in the depths building up > problems. > > Maybe a bad gentooer, but at least I am happy that I am doing things in > a way that I understand, and works the way I want it to! > > BillK If you cannot understand or appreciate a simple and very usefull feature like package.keywords, how are you able to use Gentoo at all?! The way you're doing things means that you are not able to use a command like 'emerge -u world' as all ~arch packages will get downgraded. -- T.G. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
Exactly - have you have been around gentoo long enough to remember the elegantly simple -u and -U mechanism we used to have to control upgrade/downgrade. Instead we have a bunch of files that were initially poorly documented (when this was released), and in practise for me at least, are a backward step in application and use. Maybe its harking back to simpler days, but this is a change that broke a system for me, caused a lot of wasted time, and seems a needless complication to a simple system. BillK On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 12:19 +0200, Tero Grundström wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, W.Kenworthy wrote: > ... > > If you cannot understand or appreciate a simple and very usefull feature > like package.keywords, how are you able to use Gentoo at all?! > > The way you're doing things means that you are not able to use a command > like 'emerge -u world' as all ~arch packages will get downgraded. > > -- > T.G. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:57:24 +0800, William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly - have you have been around gentoo long enough to remember the > elegantly simple -u and -U mechanism we used to have to control > upgrade/downgrade. Yes, most of us have been around long enough to remember that the "elegantly simple" mechanism you refer to that "seemed" to work was inherently broken and left your portage database in an anomalous state. -- Collins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] linux-2.6.11 is out
> Thanks, but I've already added those to my package.mask, but the 1.0-6111 > nVidia kernel module refuses to compile on 2.6.11 and most its the release > candidates for me. When I was using nvidia I downloaded the 6111 release from nvidia.com and had to modify some of the code to get it to compile for 2.6.10. Below is a note that I made for myself of the changes that I made, they'll probably work for you also: winux nvidia # cat nvidia.changes 12/30/2004 - dnebing - I modified the usr/src/nv/nv.c to do the following: 1. Replace pci_find_class() with pci_get_class(). The arguments are the same, but pci_find_class was removed and replaced with pci_get_class(). Replacement builds successfully with this change. 2. Declare __VMALLOC_RESERVE. Don't know what value it should have, but a value must be defined for it to work. I used "unsigned int __VMALLOC_RESERVE = 128 << 20;". After making these changes, the regular installer will work successfully. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list