Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
It would be terribly nice, if people tried to do the regular rtfm, mailing 
list archives and forum search routine, before sending the problem to the 
list. It's about fourth or fifth time this issue is brought up at the list 
during only last week.
  L.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Alberto Bert wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've update perl but emerge don't want do it.
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge -pv perl
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [blocks B] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [ebuildU ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 [5.8.0-r10] +berkdb -doc +gdbm
 -threads
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge perl
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
 !!! Error: the dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 package conflicts with this
 package and both can't be installed on the same system together.
 
 What does it mean and what should I do?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 alb
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jim Doherty
Leonid Podolny wrote:

It would be terribly nice, if people tried to do the regular rtfm, mailing 
list archives and forum search routine, before sending the problem to the 
list. It's about fourth or fifth time this issue is brought up at the list 
during only last week.
 L.
 

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on 
the Mailing Lists webpage.

Jim Dohery

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
 So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
 the Mailing Lists webpage.

 Jim Dohery

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jim Doherty
Leonid Podolny wrote:

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
the Mailing Lists webpage.
Jim Dohery

   

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 

Thanks!It strikes me that if the information was easily found on the 
website alot of the stupid duplicate questions would disappear from the 
list.

Jim Doherty

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread collins
Leonid Podolny wrote:

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
the Mailing Lists webpage.
Jim Dohery

   

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 

It would be a really good idea (tm) to post this all too frequently 
asked question somewhere prominent on the gentoo website.

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-29 Thread Jarrett Graham




emerge -C Test-Simple File-Spec; emerge -pv perl; emerge Test-Simple File-Spec



On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 22:29, Alberto Bert wrote:

Hi,

I've update perl but emerge don't want do it.

bash-2.05b# emerge -pv perl

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 (from pkg
dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
[blocks B] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1 (from pkg
dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
[ebuildU ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 [5.8.0-r10] +berkdb -doc +gdbm
-threads

bash-2.05b# emerge perl
Calculating dependencies ...done!

!!! Error: the dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 package conflicts with this
package and both can't be installed on the same system together.

What does it mean and what should I do?

Thanks a lot,

alb

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-29 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 10:29 pm, Alberto Bert wrote:
 Hi,

 I've update perl but emerge don't want do it.

 bash-2.05b# emerge -pv perl

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [blocks B] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [ebuildU ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 [5.8.0-r10] +berkdb -doc +gdbm
 -threads

 bash-2.05b# emerge perl
 Calculating dependencies ...done!

 !!! Error: the dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 package conflicts with this
 package and both can't be installed on the same system together.

 What does it mean and what should I do?

 Thanks a lot,

 alb

I also had the same problem. 
unmerging Test-Simple and File-Spec and then emerging perl fixed it

HTH
R'twick


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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-29 Thread el lodger
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:29:52 +0200
Alberto Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've update perl but emerge don't want do it.
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge -pv perl
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [blocks B] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [ebuildU ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 [5.8.0-r10] +berkdb -doc +gdbm
 -threads
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge perl
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
 !!! Error: the dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 package conflicts with
 this package and both can't be installed on the same system together.
Unmerge those two packages that are blocked. Then emerge perl.
Read this from the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter

Radical changes to Perl module handling
---
  
A new version of perl that radically changes the way that modules are 
handled is now available in ~arch, and is slated to appear in the 1.4 
release. Perl has a list of directories in which it looks for modules 
called @INC, and the standard ordering of @INC is rather inconvenient
for 
distribution maintainers. It is impossible to override the functionality

of modules that are included in the core distribution without
overwriting 
the files. That is what Gentoo has done to date, but it has some 
unfortunate side-effects. 
 
While one would expect that merging and unmerging a new version of 
ExtUtils-MakeMaker would return one's system to the state it was in 
before, it does not. Instead, ExtUtils::MakeMaker is completely wiped
off 
the system, and the system becomes unable to install any more modules.
In 
perl 5.8.0-r12 and beyond, @INC is augmented and reordered, so that 
versions of files in the core are actually near the bottom of the chain,

and can be overridden easily in two well-defined ways: by the vendor 
directories and the site directories. Files in the site directories in 
turn can override those in the vendor directories. 
 
After 5.8.0-r12 has been widely installed, we will change the
perl-module 
eclass so that all ebuilds in dev-perl that use it will install their 
files into the vendor directory. Up to now, they use the site directory.

The site directory is the perl equivalent of /usr/local in the current 
opinion of the Gentoo perl team, and we are going to give users complete

control over what goes in there, so you will never have to worry about 
Gentoo ebuilds writing into your site directories any more, and you
always 
have the last say about which version of a module is going to be used. 
Want to try a version from CPAN that's a little experimental? Go ahead, 
and then just delete it from the site directory, and you will have the 
version from the ebuild right there, without any need to reemerge it. No

longer will depclean or unmerging perl modules disable critical perl 
functionality. 
 
However, since current versions of some perl module ebuilds that are 
already installed on people's systems lay claim to critical files in the

perl core, you need to get those off of your systems before emerging 
perl-5.8.0-r12. emerge will remind you of this by using blocking
depends, 
so if you have the problematic versions of the packages installed,
emerge 
-u world or emerge -u perl will abort with an error. Note that the
version 
mentioned in the block is the safe version, because the block says it 
conflicts with anything prior to the safe version. Below is the list at 
this time of safe versions of the affected modules. Anything prior must
be 
unmerged before emerging perl. Note that you do not necessarily need to 
remerge the safe version of these modules after installing perl
5.8.0-12, 
because the 5.8 core contains versions of these modules that are 
sufficiently recent for most uses. 
 
 * ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r6 
 * File-Spec-0.84-r1 
 * Test-Simple-0.47-r1 
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