Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --security

2005-11-08 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:07:19AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:07:51 -0500, John J. Foster wrote:
 
  //garbanzo/root # emerge --security
  !!! Error: --security is an invalid option.
  
  This is with portage-2.0.51.22-r3. Is this an option in an upcoming
  version?
 
 It's not in 2.0.53_rc7 either, although glsa-check does the job for now.
 
 I run glsa-check via cron, even security updates should be inspected
 before applying them.
 
That's what I do also, along with an emerge -puDNv world via cron and
just have the results mailed to me to check in the morning. I thought
there was a new emerge option that I wasn't aware of yet.

Thanks for the reply,
John

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --security

2005-11-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 03:04:20 -0500, John J. Foster wrote:

  I run glsa-check via cron, even security updates should be inspected
  before applying them.
  
 That's what I do also, along with an emerge -puDNv world via cron and
 just have the results mailed to me to check in the morning. I thought
 there was a new emerge option that I wasn't aware of yet.

I do that, but my cron script also runs emerge -uDNf world so I have the
distfiles ready to go.


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[gentoo-user] Out of portage

2005-11-08 Thread Eray Aslan
Hello,

I am using portage for packet management.  But there are a few programs 
(postfix for example) that I have emerged and now would like to manage myself.  
What is the best way to take a program out of portage without unmerging the 
program?  Deleting the appropriate line from /var/lib/portage/world perhaps?  
Any side effects if I do that? Thank you.

Eray

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Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing error

2005-11-08 Thread Qv6
On Monday 07 November 2005 05:49 am, brullo nulla wrote:
 

 Well, by looking on the forums it seems you have a mixed system.
 kdepim is a  monolithic package. kdepim-kioslaves is a package of the
 kde split packages. Try unmerging kdepim and emerging kdepim-meta,
 and anyways be sure of having a kde relying on split packages (that's
 the way to go in the future)

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-355389.html

Thanks
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RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-08 Thread Matthias Langer
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 17:58 -0800, Bob Young wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Corbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:21 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14  Nvidia
 
 On Sunday 06 November 2005 11:13 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote:
  Philip Webb wrote:
   Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ?
 
  Yup. In /etc/conf.d/local.start
 
  /sbin/NVmakedevices.sh
 
  or
 
  mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0
  mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255
 
 
 This doesn't work for me.  If I have the nvidia FB compiled in, then nvidia
 module fails to load long before local.start seems to be called.
 
 
 You can't have the nv driver providing the console frame buffer, then load
 the nvidia driver. If you do that, you have two different modules laying
 claim to control of the video hardware, thus causing the second one to fail
 to load.. If you want support for different video modes and boot splash etc,
 use the vesafb, then your nvidia driver should load.
 Bob Young

This link may be relevant:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104369
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef:
 
 A recent update to dovecot stopped it completely until you updated the
 config file. I suppose you could fix that with a cron job that did
 
 echo -5 | etc-update
 
 :-)

My goodness, Neil-- are you aiming to be the next Stephen King?

You certainly have an eye for true horror.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale

Hi all, it is me again.  LOL

I run folding on all my rigs and noticed something strange.  It uses
screen so I can detach, logout and etc.  Check this out though:

 top - 06:27:32 up 19:34,  4 users,  load average: 2.08, 0.76, 0.26
 Tasks: 103 total,   3 running, 100 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s): 25.2% us, 72.4% sy,  2.3% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi, 
 0.0% si
 Mem:   1034548k total,   937264k used,97284k free,   257980k buffers
 Swap:   488336k total,  188k used,   488148k free,   287116k cached

   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  1781 root  25   0 59760 1196  568 R 49.2  0.1   0:44.51
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  1713 root  16   0  2676 1232  892 S 44.6  0.1   0:39.55 screen
  8649 root  15   0  191m  60m 4644 S  3.3  6.0  32:26.83 X
  1800 root  35  19 43728  32m  472 R  2.0  3.3   0:00.11
 FahCore_78.exe
 1 root  16   0  1464  492  428 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.20 init
 2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.04 ksoftirqd/0
 3 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.06 events/0
 4 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
 5 root  11  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread

Now so you will know, this rig has a AMD 2500+ CPU.  This is not one of
my very slow rigs.  Why is screen taking up so much CPU time?  Almost
45%.  O_O

What I have done so far, re-emerged screen and done a etc-update, almost
hit the tab key after etc-.  :/  Habit I guess.  LOL  I did a env-update
and even logged out and back in.  Nothing but more smoke.

What is up with this?  It was working fine the other day.  I have gotten
to where I use it a lot.  I'm still trying to figure out screen but I am
making progress with it.  This is what it looks like on my AMD 800 MHz rig:

 top - 07:01:15 up 12:28,  1 user,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
 Tasks:  38 total,   3 running,  35 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.0% sy, 99.7% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi, 
 0.0% si
 Mem:125004k total,   122484k used, 2520k free,79124k buffers
 Swap:   193496k total,   88k used,   193408k free, 7340k cached

   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  6168 root  39  19 15712 7524 1064 R 99.8  6.0 427:21.84
 FahCore_78.exe
 1 root  16   0  1440  484  428 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.17 init
 snip big time
  5852 root  16   0  2740 1484  952 S  0.0  1.2   0:04.43 screen
  5853 root  25   0 10732 1072  792 S  0.0  0.9   0:06.01
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  5907 root  16   0 10732 1072  792 S  0.0  0.9   0:00.00
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  5908 root  15   0 10732 1072  792 S  0.0  0.9   0:05.88
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  5909 root  16   0 10732 1072  792 S  0.0  0.9   0:00.00
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  6165 root  15   0 10732 1072  792 S  0.0  0.9   0:00.00
 FAH502-Linux.ex
  6166 root  34  19 15712 7524 1064 S  0.0  6.0   0:00.23
 FahCore_78.exe
  6167 root  34  19 15712 7524 1064 S  0.0  6.0   0:00.00
 FahCore_78.exe
  6169 root  34  19 15712 7524 1064 S  0.0  6.0   0:00.00
 FahCore_78.exe
  7369 root  16   0  6336 1928 1548 R  0.0  1.5   0:00.05 sshd
  7375 root  16   0  2292 1344 1096 S  0.0  1.1   0:00.02 bash
  7381 root  16   0  2028 1052  828 R  0.0  0.8   0:00.06 top


Do I need to back up a version and mask it for a while?  If so, how do I
get the previous version info?  I assume it is equery something.  I know
how to emerge it I think but they changed how to get a list of what
versions are in portage since I used it last time.

This is the uncommented bit of screenrc:

autodetach on
startup_message off
crlf off
multiuser off
defscrollback 1000
silencewait 15
bufferfile$HOME/.screen_exchange
shell -$SHELL
pow_detach_msg Screen session of \$LOGNAME \$:cr:\$:nl:ended.
termcap  xterm hs@:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:im=\E[4h:ei=\E[4l
terminfo xterm hs@:cs=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr:im=\E[4h:ei=\E[4l
termcapinfo  xterm Z0=\E[?3h:Z1=\E[?3l:is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;4;6l
termcapinfo xterm* OL=100
termcapinfo xterm 'VR=\E[?5h:VN=\E[?5l'
termcapinfo xterm 'k1=\E[11~:k2=\E[12~:k3=\E[13~:k4=\E[14~'
termcapinfo xterm 'kh=\EOH:kI=\E[2~:kD=\E[3~:kH=\EOF:kP=\E[5~:kN=\E[6~'
termcapinfo xterm 'hs:ts=\E]2;:fs=\007:ds=\E]2;screen\007'
termcapinfo xterm 'vi=\E[?25l:ve=\E[34h\E[?25h:vs=\E[34l'
termcapinfo xterm 'XC=K%,%\E(B,[\304,\326,]\334,{\344,|\366,}\374,~\337'
termcapinfo xterm* be
termcapinfo xterm|xterms|xs ti@:te=\E[2J
termcapinfo wy75-42 xo:hs@
termcapinfo wy* 
CS=\E[?1h:CE=\E[?1l:vi=\E[?25l:ve=\E[?25h:VR=\E[?5h:VN=\E[?5l:cb=\E[1K:CD=\E[1J
termcapinfo  hp700 
'Z0=\E[?3h:Z1=\E[?3l:hs:ts=\E[62p\E[0$~\E[2$~\E[1$}:fs=\E[0}\E[61p:ds=\E[62p\E[1$~\E[61p:ic@'
termcap  vt100* ms:AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:UP=\E[%dA:DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC
terminfo vt100* 
ms:AL=\E[%p1%dL:DL=\E[%p1%dM:UP=\E[%p1%dA:DO=\E[%p1%dB:LE=\E[%p1%dD:RI=\E[%p1%dC
termcapinfo linux C8

 left out the bindings 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-08 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 00:21, David Corbin wrote:
 On Sunday 06 November 2005 11:13 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote:
  Philip Webb wrote:
   Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ?
 
  Yup. In /etc/conf.d/local.start
 
  /sbin/NVmakedevices.sh
 
  or
 
  mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0
  mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255

 This doesn't work for me.  If I have the nvidia FB compiled in, then nvidia
 module fails to load long before local.start seems to be called.


which is totally logical.

You can not have two absolutly different drivers fight over the same piece of 
hardware. AFAIR it is even part of the README.

But some people choose not to read it or think, but complain instead of it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:

Thanks, I hope someone knows how to fix this.  I may copy my config file
from one of my other rigs and try it.  Sort of chicken though.

Dale
:-)
  

OK, it is in the config file somewhere.  I renamed the old config
screenrc.old and then copied the config file from another rig, it works
fine now:

 top - 07:31:03 up 12:58,  1 user,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
 Tasks:  42 total,   3 running,  39 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  0.0% us,  0.0% sy, 100.0% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi, 
 0.0% si
 Mem:125004k total,   122064k used, 2940k free,75512k buffers
 Swap:   193496k total,   88k used,   193408k free, 8924k cached

   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  6168 root  39  19 15712 7528 1064 R 99.7  6.0 457:08.54
 FahCore_78.exe
  7462 root  16   0  2028 1044  828 R  0.3  0.8   0:00.44 top
 1 root  16   0  1440  484  428 S  0.0  0.4   0:00.17 init
 snip a lot 
  5852 root  16   0  2740 1484  952 S  0.0  1.2   0:04.43 screen

That is how it should be.  I do want to figue out that config thing
though.  It may cause something else to mess up that I don't know about,
yet.

Thanks again for the help.  I'm clueless but I'm looking.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:


That is how it should be.  I do want to figue out that config thing
though.  It may cause something else to mess up that I don't know about,
yet.
  


Disregard all that.  I was logged into one of my old rigs via ssh and didn't 
notice it.  That was the old rig that runs correctly.  It is still using a lot 
of CPU time even with the older config file.  May be something else after all.  
At least we eliminated that though.

I need help.  I have to many rigs to keep up with.  o_O

Any ideas?  Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:00:41 + Qian Qiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/8/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:48:20PM +, Qian Qiao wrote:

 Can't resist: you left out one option. I do my updates unattended: I
 sync, I look at what should be updated, set emerge up to run over
 night to update those packages, and go to bed.

 BUT! I did set PORT_LOGDIR in /etc/make.conf and I check the next
 morning to see if there are any important messages from einfo or
 ewarn.

 To be honest, I can't quite imagine you staring at the screen for 2
 bloody hours the next time you update glibc, or mozilla, or kde...

 Easy enough, pipe the output to a text file.

That seems fairly similar to PORT_LOGDIR.  I prefer the logdir, since
it splits off the portage messages into a separate file.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-08 Thread Alan E. Davis
Don't know whether this is even relevant. I was pulling my hair
out trying to get the nvidia driver (nvidia) working with kernel
2.6.12 for about three weeks. It worked ok with nv, but with
nvidia it gave the same message you got. I was using the same
nvidia-kernel version you are. I moved to kernel 2.6.13, and
decided to run ~amd64 (what the heck). Nvidia kernel v. 7676
installed neatly and worked. 

I don't recommend it, necessarily. It worked for me, but there seem to be many variables that can cause that message.

Alan On 11/8/05, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 00:21, David Corbin wrote: On Sunday 06 November 2005 11:13 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote:
  Philip Webb wrote:   Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ?   Yup. In /etc/conf.d/local.start   /sbin/NVmakedevices.sh 
  or   mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0  mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255 This doesn't work for me.If I have the nvidia FB compiled in, then nvidia module fails to load long before 
local.start seems to be called.which is totally logical.You can not have two absolutly different drivers fight over the same piece ofhardware. AFAIR it is even part of the README.But some people choose not to read it or think, but complain instead of it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 05:47:13 -0800, George Garvey wrote:

Setting AUTOCLEAN to no, generally, will make a mess (in my
 opinion). Then, ALL old copies of things that are updated will be left
 installed. One ends up with multiple installed versions of every
 package on the system eventually.
Maybe just for that one package it would be okay. But it sounds
 like the wrong answer.

I was only suggesting it be used in this case, not as a global setting.

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[gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
(mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent me
a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4 will
lock up and refuse all interaction.

All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up and
the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one screen
to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top reveals that
X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing individual
applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but killing X
gives me back a working, functional login screen.

This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever reason,
it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
professor's labs  assignments link) or alt tab away or back into
Firefox. I haven't lost much work yet, thanks to my habit of using vim
in screen but otherwise it's frustrating to either boot up a 2nd (non
linux) comp or hitting the restart button.

It started when I accidentally updated a bunch of packages using ~x86
keywords but I've recompiled xorg and firefox back to their 'stable'
versions; sooner or later I'm going to try to recompile everything down
to their stable versions but in the meanwhile, any suggestions?


[gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
(mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent me
a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4 will
lock up and refuse all interaction.

All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up and
the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one screen
to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top reveals that
X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing individual
applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but killing X
gives me back a working, functional login screen.

This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever reason,
it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
professor's labs  assignments link) or alt tab away or back into
Firefox. I haven't lost much work yet, thanks to my habit of using vim
in screen but otherwise it's frustrating to either boot up a 2nd (non
linux) comp or hitting the restart button.

It started when I accidentally updated a bunch of packages using ~x86
keywords but I've recompiled xorg and firefox back to their 'stable'
versions; sooner or later I'm going to try to recompile everything down
to their stable versions but in the meanwhile, any suggestions?


Re: [gentoo-user] Out of portage

2005-11-08 Thread Renat Golubchyk
Hi!

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:37:45 +0200 Eray Aslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I am using portage for packet management.  But there are a few
 programs (postfix for example) that I have emerged and now would like
 to manage myself.  What is the best way to take a program out of
 portage without unmerging the program?  Deleting the appropriate line
 from /var/lib/portage/world perhaps?  Any side effects if I do that?

If postfix becomes a dependency of another package in the future it will
get updated by portage regardless of it being in the world-file. A
better way would be to install it by hand in /usr/local which is
reserved for user-managed programs. But you _will_ have to keep an eye
on all the required libraries. If they get updated by portage it could
break your local install of postfix unless you compile it statically.

Another option would be to mask every version of postfix except of
yours in package.mask. If you have to modify the ebuild copy it to your
portage overlay and install it from there.

Anyway, why do you want to manage those programs yourself?

Cheers,
Renat


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Re: [gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Phill MV schreef:
 Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
 ( mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent
 me a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
 will lock up and refuse all interaction.
 
 All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up
 and the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one
 screen to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top
 reveals that X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing
 individual applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but
 killing X gives me back a working, functional login screen.
 
 This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever
 reason, it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
 professor's labs  assignments link) snip

Before going further, let me say that I agree that X is becoming a real
annoyance. I'm at this very moment upgrading to the unstable version
(6.8.2-r6, not the masked pre-7.0 versions; I'm not that desperate :-) )
to see if it helps.

That said, this would seem to be an interaction between 'problems with
X' and 'problems with Firefox' (we've had discussions of the increasing
memory usage of Firefox lately-- it may well be that both these sets of
issues are manageable on their own, but together, Firefox becomes the
straw that breaks the back of X.

So try using another web browser for a while. I myself like Galeon for
my alternate browser, but there's Epiphany, Dillo, Konqueror (of
course), kazehakase, w3m, amaya, skipstone, and of course the text-based
browsers such as links, lynx and so on. I would avoid Mozilla, because
it's about the only thing that could possibly be yet more bloated than
Firefox is becoming.

In any case, see if the problem persists when using another browser; if
it doesn't, then at least you can do your work, if it does, perhaps
we'll get more information as to what is going wrong.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Full path in apache2 access_log?

2005-11-08 Thread Grant
 Ive played with many ecommerce packages (OSC, intershop, home-grown
 stuff in Perl, PHP and ASP). Recently built a site using Mambo (err...
 that should be called Joomla now ;-) and a plugin callead mambo-phpshop.
 The plugin has a complete backend already built so you just customize a
 few pages...

 Interchange sounds more like a framework that needs more work to build a
 complete store, right?

I think you've hit upon the point that really makes Interchange cool. 
It is a great framework, but there are a few demo stores built on
top of it that can be customized into your store in no time:

http://demo.icdevgroup.org/i/demo1
http://demo.icdevgroup.org/i/demo2

I prefer to go the route of only using the basic framework and then
creating my own stuff on top of that.  Interchange is awesome either
way, and you could easily set up your store on top of a demo store,
and then customize it more and more as time goes on.

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] use of /usr/src/linux symlink

2005-11-08 Thread Digby Tarvin
Something which I havn't found any explicit elaboration of in the
documentation...

The convention in the Linux/gentoo filesystem seems to be to have a unique
directory for each installed kernel in /usr/src, with a symbolic link to
the 'current' kernel directory named /usr/src/linux..

The question is - is this just a user convenience, or will parts of
the system break if it is not maintained correctly?

The reason I ask is that if I have several kernels which I have configured
grub to allow me to select from at boot time, where should this symlink
point? The newest kernel? An experimental one being worked on? The one most
recently booted from. If the latter case then it is likely to be wrong for
a finite period following boot until the system has come up far enough to
allow me to update it.

Anyone know what is likely to break (if anything) if I boot from a kernel
other than the one which corresponds to the directory /usr/src/linux points
to, and neglect to update the link? Does it direct (for instance) the target
directory for an emerge of new kernel components? Or does it perhaps have to
point to the kernel being built during any recompile?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] use of /usr/src/linux symlink

2005-11-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Digby Tarvin schreef:
 Something which I havn't found any explicit elaboration of in the 
 documentation...
 
 The convention in the Linux/gentoo filesystem seems to be to have a 
 unique directory for each installed kernel in /usr/src, with a 
 symbolic link to the 'current' kernel directory named 
 /usr/src/linux..
 
 The question is - is this just a user convenience, or will parts of 
 the system break if it is not maintained correctly?
 
 The reason I ask is that if I have several kernels which I have 
 configured grub to allow me to select from at boot time, where should
  this symlink point? The newest kernel? An experimental one being 
 worked on? The one most recently booted from. If the latter case then
  it is likely to be wrong for a finite period following boot until
 the system has come up far enough to allow me to update it.

The symlink has nothing to do with the compiled kernels in /boot at all.

What it has to do with are applications, libraries and external kernel
modules that are compiled against the kernel source.

For example, ati-drivers is a kernel module which compiles against the
kernel source. In order for it to do so, it needs to know what kernel
source to compile against. The easiest way for it to know that is for it
to seek the target of the /usr/src/linux symlink, which generally points
to either 1) the source of the currently running kernel, or 2) the
source of the kernel that *will* be the currently-running kernel, after
you compile/install/reboot to it.

 
 Anyone know what is likely to break (if anything) if I boot from a 
 kernel other than the one which corresponds to the directory 
 /usr/src/linux points to, and neglect to update the link? Does it 
 direct (for instance) the target directory for an emerge of new 
 kernel components? Or does it perhaps have to point to the kernel 
 being built during any recompile?


Nothing, no (all internal kernel components are in the kernel source,
and if you are emerging external kernel modules, they'll just be
compiled against some other kernel than the one you're booting to, so
they won't be available for that kernel-- but that is not, strictly
speaking, broken), and no, whatever recompile you might be doing is
unrelated to the symlink, unless it involves external kernel modules or
one of the relatively rare applications or libraries that compile
directly against the kernel source.

You might consider, however, activating the symlink USE flag, which
will update the symlink when you install a new kernel source.

Hope this helps.
Holly

 
 Regards, DigbyT

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Re: [gentoo-user] /tmp - mounted noexec

2005-11-08 Thread Alexander Skwar
Joseph schrieb:
 Shouldn't be /tmp mounted as noexec drw-rw-rwt for security?

No. Wouldn't make any sense - see for yourself what happens,
when you do so. But it would be useful to mount /tmp with the
noexec option.

 At the moment /tmp is: drwxrwxrwt 

Yes. That's the usual way.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Out of portage

2005-11-08 Thread Eray Aslan
Renat Golubchyk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If postfix becomes a dependency of another package in the
 future it will
 get updated by portage regardless of it being in the world-file. 

Possible but unlikely.  It is a stable mail server.  I doubt we will add or 
remove any software in the near future.

 Abetter way would be to install it by hand in /usr/local which is
 reserved for user-managed programs. But you _will_ have to keep an eye
 on all the required libraries. If they get updated by portage it could
 break your local install of postfix unless you compile it statically.

Thank you for the info.
 
 Another option would be to mask every version of postfix except of
 yours in package.mask. If you have to modify the ebuild copy
 it to your
 portage overlay and install it from there.
 
 Anyway, why do you want to manage those programs yourself?
 

Because of this patch for postfix: 
http://sbserv.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/duchovni/multi_instance.gz

It makes managing / upgrading postfix with multi instances easier.  But it 
seems sticking with portage and managing the (infrequent) upgrades by hand for 
the second instance of postfix is less work than messing with ebuilds.

Thanks again.
Eray

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Re: [gentoo-user] Out of portage

2005-11-08 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:03:45 +0200 Eray Aslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Renat Golubchyk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyway, why do you want to manage those programs yourself?
  
 
 Because of this patch for postfix: 
 http://sbserv.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/duchovni/multi_instance.gz
 
 It makes managing / upgrading postfix with multi instances easier.
 But it seems sticking with portage and managing the (infrequent)
 upgrades by hand for the second instance of postfix is less work than
 messing with ebuilds.

You can copy the ebuild to your overlay and patch postfix from there.
If you don't have to do anything else before compiling it then it's as
trivial as epatch /path/to/postfix.patch somewhere in src_unpack().
Doing it this way has the benefit of letting portage manage your
packages. You'll just have to keep an eye for upgrades, because they
will probably come without this patch. If you want this patch to be
included in postfix create a bug in bugzilla with the request.

Cheers,
Renat

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[gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
Hi there,

I would like to hear what people is using to do the following things,
if this can be done in Linux / Gentoo (I hope so):

1. Photo organizing. This includes downloading photos from a Canon
Powershot G6, organizing it in folders (currently done with camera
software), batch renaming them using EXIF information included in
photos, editing EXIF information (currently done with Exifer:
http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/. Unfortunately this is cardware
closed source only for Windows)

2. Minor photo editing, like red eyes correction, composing whole
images from stitchs (currently done with camera software)

3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.

4. VCD / SVCD / DVD authoring. If possible I'd like to have a GUI for
doing this, kind of Ulead DVD Workshop, this is, you can add video
files, create menus in a graphical editor, export and burn a project
in different formats (VCD/SVCD/DVD), include the source folder with
the original images in the resulting CD/DVD...

From what I've found I have the feeling that some of the things may be
done, but others, specially graphical CD/DVD authoring are lacking
some mature tools.

TIA, best regards
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[gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw
What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] vnc

2005-11-08 Thread Ralf Fischer
Hi there!

On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 01:05:16PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote:
 Of course if you are trying to connect from a Windose or other non-X
 system, then VNC is probably what you need.

Alternatively to VNC there's XLiveCD [1] out there. It's a Cygwin [2] based
disk you can put into your W32 box, the autorun(tm) feature offers to
either install it on the disk or run it from the disk. 

Like Cygwin it includes basic utilities, as well as xterm and a
X-Server, which integrates in windows.

For me, up to know, it worked perfectly out of the box.

Cheers,
  Ralf

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[2] http://www.cygwin.com/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread John Jolet
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 12:33, Michael Shaw wrote:
 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for
 something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
acutally, vim will do php and perl syntax highlighting.

 Thanks,
 Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  Yes, this much was in place.
 
  I wondered later if the issue is that my current kernel has DRM
  selected so that I Can get the radeon driver from the kernel. Possibly
  for the ATI driver I need to completely deselect DRM, rebuild the
  kernel, and then emerge the ATI drivers?

 I'm pretty sure that's probably the problem. You might try compiling DRM
 as a module and listing the DRM module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist so it's
 easier to switch between fglrx and DRM.

 In any case, I have heard that the current R200 open-source driver is as
 good as the ATI driver - I'm running an R360 (9800XT) so I don't have
 the luxury of choice :(


Manuel,
   Hi. I've been doing a number of experiements this morning to look
into this a bit further. Basic results say that ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2
will build on 2.6.13-gentoo-r5 but will not build on any of the 2.6.14
variants I've tried so far.

   OK, so I've tried:

2.6.13-gentoo-r5 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - works:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxgears
Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
2793 frames in 5.0 seconds = 558.600 FPS
3360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.000 FPS


2.6.14-gentoo



2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - won't build
2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-

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Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/8/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
   Yes, this much was in place.
  
   I wondered later if the issue is that my current kernel has DRM
   selected so that I Can get the radeon driver from the kernel. Possibly
   for the ATI driver I need to completely deselect DRM, rebuild the
   kernel, and then emerge the ATI drivers?
 
  I'm pretty sure that's probably the problem. You might try compiling DRM
  as a module and listing the DRM module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist so it's
  easier to switch between fglrx and DRM.
 
  In any case, I have heard that the current R200 open-source driver is as
  good as the ATI driver - I'm running an R360 (9800XT) so I don't have
  the luxury of choice :(
 

 Manuel,
Hi. I've been doing a number of experiements this morning to look
 into this a bit further. Basic results say that ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2
 will build on 2.6.13-gentoo-r5 but will not build on any of the 2.6.14
 variants I've tried so far.

OK, so I've tried:

 2.6.13-gentoo-r5 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - works:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxgears
 Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
 2793 frames in 5.0 seconds = 558.600 FPS
 3360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.000 FPS


 2.6.14-gentoo



 2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - won't build
 2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-


PLEASE DISREAGARD this last message. I'm in the middle of things, the
text isn't right and all the results are not included.

I hit send instead of save.

SORRY!

More later.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
OK, as a bit of a update.  I started a screen session and then emerged
mozilla inside that session.  It worked fine that way.  There is
something wrong with the way folding is using screen I guess.  So I did
a bit more digging here.  I found this command in one of the startup
scripts:

add_pref=screen -dmS FAH1

I looked at the man page, they are listed but I have no clue what the
heck they do, even though I RTFM.  Does anybody here see something wrong
with these options?  Maybe have some better options that I can use?

I had to stop my folding so I really need to beat this into shape.

Thanks,

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Catalin Trifu




 vim rulez! My personal opinion
is that vim is the best, with an assortment
of carefully chosen plugins is perfect. takes some time to learn it
though.

Catalin

Michael Shaw wrote:
What
editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking for
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or
gedit.
  
  
Thanks,
  
Mike
  





Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Billy Holmes

Michael Shaw wrote:
What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.


I use vim. it highlights and can auto indent. perfect for me!
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Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/8/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
   Yes, this much was in place.
  
   I wondered later if the issue is that my current kernel has DRM
   selected so that I Can get the radeon driver from the kernel. Possibly
   for the ATI driver I need to completely deselect DRM, rebuild the
   kernel, and then emerge the ATI drivers?
 
  I'm pretty sure that's probably the problem. You might try compiling DRM
  as a module and listing the DRM module in /etc/hotplug/blacklist so it's
  easier to switch between fglrx and DRM.
 
  In any case, I have heard that the current R200 open-source driver is as
  good as the ATI driver - I'm running an R360 (9800XT) so I don't have
  the luxury of choice :(
 

Manuel,
   Hi. OK, this is the email I meant to send this monring before I
pushed the send button at the wrong time.

   I've been doing a number of experiements this morning to look into
this a bit further. Basic results say that ati-drivers will build on
gentoo-sources (both 2.6.13 and 2.6.14) but will not build on any of
the -rt variants I've tried so far. There is no performance advantage
to using the ATI drivers on PCI Express cards as DRI doesn't work yet.

   OK, so I've tried:

2.6.13-gentoo-r5 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - works:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxgears
Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
2793 frames in 5.0 seconds = 558.600 FPS
3360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.000 FPS


2.6.14-gentoo + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2

builds but won't modprobe. From dmesg:

fglrx: Unknown symbol verify_area
fglrx: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion
fglrx: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion


2.6.14-gentoo + ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1 - works:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxgears
Xlib:  extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0.
3388 frames in 5.0 seconds = 677.600 FPS
3538 frames in 5.0 seconds = 707.600 FPS


So, down to here there is the ability to build the ATI drivers but no
acceleration as DRI is not working for PCI Express cards yet. Note
that the results above are the same when usign the radeon driver from
the kernel or no driver at all.

2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2 - won't build. (Might build if I
rebuilt the kernel with DRI enabled...)

* Found sources for kernel version:
* 2.6.14-rt6
* Checking for MTRR support enabled ...   [ ok ]
* Checking for AGP support enabled ...  [ ok ]
* Checking for DRM support disabled ... [ !! ]
* You have DRM support enabled, the direct rendering will not work.
* X11 implementation is xorg-x11.

make[1]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.o]
Error 1
make: *** 
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r2/work/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod]
Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-rt6'
 * DRM module not built

lightning ~ # modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
lightning ~ #



2.6.14-rt6 + ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1 - won't build

* /usr/src/linux
* Found sources for kernel version:
* 2.6.14-rt6
* Checking for MTRR support enabled ...  [ ok ]
* Checking for AGP support enabled ...[ ok ]
* Checking for DRM support disabled ...   [ ok ]
* X11 implementation is xorg-x11.

/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:665:
error: `SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED' undeclared (first use in this function)
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:665:
error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c:665:
error: for each function it appears in.)

make[1]: *** 
[/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.o]
Error 1
make: *** 
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod]
Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-rt6'
 * DRM module not built

lightning ~ # modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
lightning ~ #

   So with the realtime kernels I cannot even built the ATI drivers at
this time. I don't really know what to make of that. Maybe time will
tell.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Nick Rout
Yes, all of those things are possible.

Oh you want the long answer? see below:


On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:31:48 +0100
Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 I would like to hear what people is using to do the following things,
 if this can be done in Linux / Gentoo (I hope so):
 
 1. Photo organizing. This includes downloading photos from a Canon
 Powershot G6,

cameras are sometimes (quite often actually) just presents like a  usb
disk drive. some are more proprietary, which is handled by gphoto2.
There are also front ends to gphoto2, eg gtkam.


 organizing it in folders (currently done with camera
 software), batch renaming them using EXIF information included in
 photos, editing EXIF information (currently done with Exifer:
 http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/. Unfortunately this is cardware
 closed source only for Windows)

There are many good photo databases that do this kind of thing. digikam, kimdaba


 
 2. Minor photo editing, like red eyes correction, composing whole
 images from stitchs (currently done with camera software)
 

gimp

 3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
 select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
 closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
 transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
 duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
 in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.

Not sure on this one, as I haven't done it. There are however plenty of
suggestions  if you search through portage


 
 4. VCD / SVCD / DVD authoring. If possible I'd like to have a GUI for
 doing this, kind of Ulead DVD Workshop, this is, you can add video
 files, create menus in a graphical editor, export and burn a project
 in different formats (VCD/SVCD/DVD), include the source folder with
 the original images in the resulting CD/DVD...

dvdstyler is a good gui front end for this.

 
 From what I've found I have the feeling that some of the things may be
 done, but others, specially graphical CD/DVD authoring are lacking
 some mature tools.



 
 TIA, best regards
 Jose
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-08 Thread Manuel McLure

Mark Knecht wrote:

   So with the realtime kernels I cannot even built the ATI drivers at
this time. I don't really know what to make of that. Maybe time will
tell.


I think you need the 8.18.8-r1 for 2.6.14-gentoo kernels, at least 
that's what the ChangeLog for ati-drivers says (apparently there was a 
change to the ebuild *after* it was released originally, so the 
8.18.8-r1 that's there now is different from the one that was originally 
released.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/11/8, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Yes, all of those things are possible.

 Oh you want the long answer? see below:

Sure I want it :o)



 On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:31:48 +0100
 Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:


  organizing it in folders (currently done with camera
  software), batch renaming them using EXIF information included in
  photos, editing EXIF information (currently done with Exifer:
  http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/. Unfortunately this is cardware
  closed source only for Windows)

 There are many good photo databases that do this kind of thing. digikam, 
 kimdaba

It seems that digikam has only an Exif viewer, not editor, and I
haven't been able to find any reference to batch renaming based on
Exif information. Regarding KimDaBa, it also seems to read Exif, but
it doesn't let you edit it.

 
  4. VCD / SVCD / DVD authoring. If possible I'd like to have a GUI for
  doing this, kind of Ulead DVD Workshop, this is, you can add video
  files, create menus in a graphical editor, export and burn a project
  in different formats (VCD/SVCD/DVD), include the source folder with
  the original images in the resulting CD/DVD...

 dvdstyler is a good gui front end for this.


This is only for DVDs, isn't it? Anyone for VCD / SVCD?

Best regards
Jose

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[gentoo-user] Apache configuration files

2005-11-08 Thread James Colby
All - 

I recently upgraded my apache2 to use the new layout. I was
wondering about which configuration files that I now have to concern
myself with. If I understand correctly the only configuration
file is now /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, is this correct? Would it be
safe to delete the configuration files located in the /etc/apache2/conf
directory? Any assistance you can give me is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
James




Re: [gentoo-user] Apache configuration files

2005-11-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, James Colby wrote:

 I recently upgraded my apache2 to use the new layout. I was wondering about
 which configuration files that I now have to concern myself with. If I
 understand correctly the only configuration file is now
 /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, is this correct? Would it be safe to delete the
 configuration files located in the /etc/apache2/conf directory? Any
 assistance you can give me is greatly appreciated.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/apache-upgrading.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread b.n.

1. Photo organizing. This includes downloading photos from a Canon
Powershot G6, organizing it in folders (currently done with camera
software), batch renaming them using EXIF information included in
photos, editing EXIF information (currently done with Exifer:
http://www.exifer.friedemann.info/. Unfortunately this is cardware
closed source only for Windows)


Have a look at gphoto.


2. Minor photo editing, like red eyes correction, composing whole
images from stitchs (currently done with camera software)


For composing panoramas, try hugin (I wasn't able to get it working, 
hope your luckier)



3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.


I have no idea... but looks like the most horrible kitschy bad-taste 
thing I ever heard, so I refuse to give you advices about such an horror :-)



4. VCD / SVCD / DVD authoring. If possible I'd like to have a GUI for
doing this, kind of Ulead DVD Workshop, this is, you can add video
files, create menus in a graphical editor, export and burn a project
in different formats (VCD/SVCD/DVD), include the source folder with
the original images in the resulting CD/DVD...


There is a package called dvdauthor. I don't know how mature it is, 
however... i don't feel the need to author dvds.


m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache configuration files

2005-11-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:28 -0500, James Colby wrote:
 All - 
 
 If I understand correctly the only configuration file is
 now /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, is this correct?  

Yes.

 Would it be safe to delete the configuration files located in
 the /etc/apache2/conf directory?

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote:

 Dual 3.0Ghz Xeon
 2GB RAM
 128MB GeForce 6600GT
 Audigy 2 soundcard

 free -t -o -m output:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ free -t -o -m
 total used free shared buffers cached
 Mem: 2009 1505 503 0 440 584
 Swap: 1953 2 1950
 Total: 3962 1508 2454

According to the output of free it looks like despite having 2Gb of RAM,
your machine is swapping to disk. That will slow down your machine too.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote:

 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for
 something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.

Not true - maybe your terminal doesn't do color or you have it switched
off?


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[gentoo-user] Re: boot new splash Image?

2005-11-08 Thread James
Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:


 You can't animate the grub splash image, but you can install an 
 animated splashscreen with a progressbar  icons as subsequent parts of 
 your system boot.
 Once you've got http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash working you can 
 take any image that you want  add a progressbar 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Design_your_own_Framebuffer_Splash


OK,
I'll have to check these suggestions out.
Thanks for the urls.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread b.n.
If you want something easy, gui-based and cool, try Kate. It's a cool, 
advanced KDE-based editor.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache configuration files

2005-11-08 Thread James Colby
On 11/8/05, Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:28 -0500, James Colby wrote: All - If I understand correctly the only configuration file is now /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, is this correct?Yes. Would it be safe to delete the configuration files located in
 the /etc/apache2/conf directory?Yes.

Thank you for your quick and informative response.

Warm Regards,
James


Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi,

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:33 -0800, Michael Shaw wrote:
 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
 something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike

I used the php-mode for emacs when I co-wrote the Zend Certification
Study Guide.  Unlike vim, emacs actually parses and understands the code
it's editing; this makes the syntax highlighting and indentation support
much more flexible and accurate.  I'd go as far as saying that the
auto-indentation support for php-mode for emacs is by far the best I've
worked with to date.

Today, I use the phpEclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.0.  I'm very happy with
this.  Performance is very good, the object browser works better than
php-mode for Emacs did, and it's very useful indeed to be able to search
all the files of a project from within the editor.  There's also the
advantage of being able to use other Eclipse plugins, such as support
for subversion.  phpEclipse is my main environment, which I use a good
8-10 hours in a working day.

I tried Zend Studio about 18 months ago, but didn't like it.  I found
the performance was too slow (hate using software that can't keep up
with my typing!), auto-indenting was inflexible (and I couldn't convince
Zeev why that mattered :(, there was no subversion support, and no
anti-aliased font support (tiring on the eyes when your main machine is
a laptop).  I haven't tried Zend Studio 4, and have no idea whether it
has improved in any of these areas or not.

Can't comment on a good environment for perl.  Last time I used perl
seriously was in '96.  Things have changed a lot since then.

Hope that helps,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 01:35:27PM -0600, Dale wrote:
 add_pref=screen -dmS FAH1
 
 I looked at the man page, they are listed but I have no clue what the
 heck they do, even though I RTFM.  Does anybody here see something wrong
 with these options?  Maybe have some better options that I can use?
 

Looks alright, fairly standard options. 
  -d -m (same as -dm) implies starts a new screen detached
  -S FAH1 says that screen session will be named FAH1, so you can
 reattach the session via 'screen -r FAH1'

It is probably something else that is causing you trouble. 

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Q: What is your date of birth?
A: July fifteenth.
Q: What year?
A: Every year.
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Q: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
A: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
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Q: Sir, what is your IQ?
A: Well, I can see pretty well, I think.
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Q: Did you blow your horn or anything?
A: After the accident?
Q: Before the accident.
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Q: Trooper, when you stopped the defendant, were your red and blue 
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A: Yes.
Q: Did the defendant say anything when she got out of her car?
A: Yes, sir.
Q: What did she say?
A: What disco am I at?
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   he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
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A: Yes.
Q: How many were boys?
A: None.
Q: Were there any girls?
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A: By death.
Q: And by whose death was it terminated?
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Q: Is you appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice
   which I sent to your attorney?
A: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
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Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?
A: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.
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Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for blood pressure?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for breathing?
A: No.
Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began
   the autopsy?
A: No.
Q: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
Q: But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?
A: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/11/8, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
  select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
  closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
  transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
  duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
  in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.

 I have no idea... but looks like the most horrible kitschy bad-taste
 thing I ever heard, so I refuse to give you advices about such an horror :-)


Maybe, but you can make really happy your mother-in-law if you prepare
a few of those slideshows containing photos of her grandchildren. If
you finally author an easy to use SVCD menu, burn it on a printable
surface CD, and print a photo of them in the surface, you become her
favorite son-in-law... believe me, tested and proven ;o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw

A. Khattri wrote:


On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote:

 


What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
   



Not true - maybe your terminal doesn't do color or you have it switched
off?


 

Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting from 
within VIM.  How would I changes this?  I actually don't mind VIM, as it 
is quite straightforward.  If syntax hilighting worked, then I'd 
probably use it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw

Stuart Herbert wrote:


Hi,

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:33 -0800, Michael Shaw wrote:
 

What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.


Thanks,
Mike
   



I used the php-mode for emacs when I co-wrote the Zend Certification
Study Guide.  Unlike vim, emacs actually parses and understands the code
it's editing; this makes the syntax highlighting and indentation support
much more flexible and accurate.  I'd go as far as saying that the
auto-indentation support for php-mode for emacs is by far the best I've
worked with to date.

Today, I use the phpEclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.0.  I'm very happy with
this.  Performance is very good, the object browser works better than
php-mode for Emacs did, and it's very useful indeed to be able to search
all the files of a project from within the editor.  There's also the
advantage of being able to use other Eclipse plugins, such as support
for subversion.  phpEclipse is my main environment, which I use a good
8-10 hours in a working day.

I tried Zend Studio about 18 months ago, but didn't like it.  I found
the performance was too slow (hate using software that can't keep up
with my typing!), auto-indenting was inflexible (and I couldn't convince
Zeev why that mattered :(, there was no subversion support, and no
anti-aliased font support (tiring on the eyes when your main machine is
a laptop).  I haven't tried Zend Studio 4, and have no idea whether it
has improved in any of these areas or not.

Can't comment on a good environment for perl.  Last time I used perl
seriously was in '96.  Things have changed a lot since then.

Hope that helps,
Stu
 


I'll try phpEclipse.  I'll peruse the wiki to see if I can get it set up.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread b.n.

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

2005/11/8, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.


I have no idea... but looks like the most horrible kitschy bad-taste
thing I ever heard, so I refuse to give you advices about such an horror :-)




Maybe, but you can make really happy your mother-in-law if you prepare
a few of those slideshows containing photos of her grandchildren. If
you finally author an easy to use SVCD menu, burn it on a printable
surface CD, and print a photo of them in the surface, you become her
favorite son-in-law... believe me, tested and proven ;o)


Ahaha, OK, you're forgiven :-P
(Sorry if I looked rude, but I couldn't control myself in front of such 
a description...)


m.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
2005/11/9, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
  2005/11/8, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
 select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
 closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
 transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
 duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
 in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.
 
 I have no idea... but looks like the most horrible kitschy bad-taste
 thing I ever heard, so I refuse to give you advices about such an horror :-)
 
 
 
  Maybe, but you can make really happy your mother-in-law if you prepare
  a few of those slideshows containing photos of her grandchildren. If
  you finally author an easy to use SVCD menu, burn it on a printable
  surface CD, and print a photo of them in the surface, you become her
  favorite son-in-law... believe me, tested and proven ;o)

 Ahaha, OK, you're forgiven :-P
 (Sorry if I looked rude, but I couldn't control myself in front of such
 a description...)

No problem, and thanks for the help :o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0800 Michael Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A. Khattri wrote:
 
 On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote:
 Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting
 from within VIM.  How would I changes this?  I actually don't mind
 VIM, as it is quite straightforward.  If syntax hilighting worked,
 then I'd probably use it.

syntax on within vim or in your .vimrc
filetype plugin indent on would enable filetype-specific settings.
Google for some example .vimrc files. VIM is actually very flexible ;-)
One pretty complex but commented example is Ciaran's. You can find it
at http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/configs/vimrc

If vim (or gvim) is not enough check out Quanta (for php development):
http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/


Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On November 08 at 18:49 EST, b.n. hastily scribbled:
 Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 2005/11/8, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 3. Creation of slideshows from photographs. I would like to be able to
 select some or all of the photographs, maybe add some opening or
 closing title, extract headers or footers from EXIF information, edit
 transition between photos, add music to the slideshow, adjust the
 duration of photos and transition to fit the music, and export a video
 in a suitable format to be included in VCD, SVCD or DVD.

 I have no idea... but looks like the most horrible kitschy bad-taste
 thing I ever heard, so I refuse to give you advices about such an horror 
 :-)

 Maybe, but you can make really happy your mother-in-law if you prepare
 a few of those slideshows containing photos of her grandchildren. If
 you finally author an easy to use SVCD menu, burn it on a printable
 surface CD, and print a photo of them in the surface, you become her
 favorite son-in-law... believe me, tested and proven ;o)

 Ahaha, OK, you're forgiven :-P
 (Sorry if I looked rude, but I couldn't control myself in front of such 
 a description...)

Yeah... it sounded like a description of a bad PowerPoint presentation.

;-)

Good to see you're using it for something tasteful and not to annoy
co-workers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled:
 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
 something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
I can offer three suggestions:

1. vim.  If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will
do syntax highlighting properly.

2. jedit.  It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file
types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins.

3. bluefish.  It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP
support (I might be wrong), and it's a good web development editor.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote:

Looks alright, fairly standard options. 
  -d -m (same as -dm) implies starts a new screen detached
  -S FAH1 says that screen session will be named FAH1, so you can
 reattach the session via 'screen -r FAH1'

It is probably something else that is causing you trouble. 

W
  

You're right, it is something else.  I used the command with something
beside folding and it works just fine.  I have no clue what to do with
this thing. 

I also searched the emerge log, screen has not been updated.

I may delete the folding directory and just start with a fresh install. 
I use finstall to do my folding.  Funny thing is, I have not done
anything to folding except stop start when I need to reboot or
something.  Other than that, it just runs.  It works fine on my other
rigs as well.  I use the same version of screen and used finstall on
them too.

If anybody has any ideas, I need them.  I did just download a new
folding thing so I am not really loosing anything but it will make them
think I'm working on it when I am not.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Photo organizing, slideshows, and S/VCD/DVD authoring/editing

2005-11-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:21:57 +0100, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

 It seems that digikam has only an Exif viewer, not editor, and I
 haven't been able to find any reference to batch renaming based on
 Exif information.

You can do batch renaming based on file date, and there is also an option
to correct file dates based on EXIF information. So you can do it with
Digikam, but it is a two stage operation.

Krename is able to rename files based on EXIF data.

Digikam can also do slideshows, or there is dvd-slideshow, which also
does menus.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread gentuxx
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Michael Shaw wrote:

 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking
 for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi
 or gedit.

 Thanks,
 Mike

I seems like you've got a lot of good suggestions here, so I'll just
throw my 2¢ out into the pot too!

For perl, I use vim for quick edits and kate for larger projects.  It
doesn't auto-tab the way I think it should, but that's probably just a
configuration that I haven't given it yet.  ;-)

I like bluefish for HTML|PHP|CSS, but the CSS and PHP colorization is
a little jumpy.  Sometimes it'll do it, sometime it won't.  So then I
started using gphpedit for JUST PHP.  bluefish is nice for (X)?HTML,
and OK for CSS, but more often than not, I find myself comfy with PHP
and CSS in gphpedit.

I might have to look into eclipse though.that sounds interesting.
And I worked with emacs while I was working on some documentation for
the Fedora Documentation Project, I could probably handle that if the
plug-ins worked right.

Anyway, my top pick for perl is kate, for PHP is gPHPEdit.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 06:25:59PM -0600, Dale wrote:
 You're right, it is something else.  I used the command with something
 beside folding and it works just fine.  I have no clue what to do with
 this thing. 
 
 I also searched the emerge log, screen has not been updated.
 
 I may delete the folding directory and just start with a fresh install. 
 I use finstall to do my folding.  Funny thing is, I have not done
 anything to folding except stop start when I need to reboot or
 something.  Other than that, it just runs.  It works fine on my other
 rigs as well.  I use the same version of screen and used finstall on
 them too.

Sorry if you might have explained this before, but can you refresh my
memory on what it is, this folding thing you keep referring to? 

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[gentoo-user] emerge kino problem

2005-11-08 Thread Richard Watson
Hi, I'm trying to emerge Kino. One of the packages required
media-video/avifile-0.7.41.20041001-r1 is failing with the attached
error. I'm a bit stuck at the moment ... Can anyone help? 
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make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/avifile-0.7.41.20041001-r1/work/avifile-0.7-0.7.41/ffmpeg/libavcodec/i386'

make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/avifile-0.7.41.20041001-r1/work/avifile-0.7-0.7.41/ffmpeg/libavcodec'

make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/avifile-0.7.41.20041001-r1/work/avifile-0.7-0.7.41/ffmpeg'

make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: media-video/avifile-0.7.41.20041001-r1 failed.

!!! Function src_compile, Line 138, Exitcode 2

!!! (no error message)

!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
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Re: [gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
That's a pretty defeatist way of looking at it :P.
FIrefox seems to work just fine on every other X running desktop,
including a fellow Gentoo'er friend of mind;
Not to mention that simply stop using the application cos X has a bug
is, well, far out.

I'll go ahead with the mass recompile, I guess.
(PS. Opera 8.5 is waaay laggy for some reason and I like my extensions)


On 08/11/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Phill MV schreef:
  Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
  ( mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent
  me a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
  will lock up and refuse all interaction.
 
  All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up
  and the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one
  screen to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top
  reveals that X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing
  individual applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but
  killing X gives me back a working, functional login screen.
 
  This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever
  reason, it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
  professor's labs  assignments link) snip

 Before going further, let me say that I agree that X is becoming a real
 annoyance. I'm at this very moment upgrading to the unstable version
 (6.8.2-r6, not the masked pre-7.0 versions; I'm not that desperate :-) )
 to see if it helps.

 That said, this would seem to be an interaction between 'problems with
 X' and 'problems with Firefox' (we've had discussions of the increasing
 memory usage of Firefox lately-- it may well be that both these sets of
 issues are manageable on their own, but together, Firefox becomes the
 straw that breaks the back of X.

 So try using another web browser for a while. I myself like Galeon for
 my alternate browser, but there's Epiphany, Dillo, Konqueror (of
 course), kazehakase, w3m, amaya, skipstone, and of course the text-based
 browsers such as links, lynx and so on. I would avoid Mozilla, because
 it's about the only thing that could possibly be yet more bloated than
 Firefox is becoming.

 In any case, see if the problem persists when using another browser; if
 it doesn't, then at least you can do your work, if it does, perhaps
 we'll get more information as to what is going wrong.

 Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw

Renat Golubchyk wrote:


On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0800 Michael Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


A. Khattri wrote:

   


On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Michael Shaw wrote:
 


Well, my terminal does have some color, but not syntax hilighting
from within VIM.  How would I changes this?  I actually don't mind
VIM, as it is quite straightforward.  If syntax hilighting worked,
then I'd probably use it.
   



syntax on within vim or in your .vimrc
filetype plugin indent on would enable filetype-specific settings.
Google for some example .vimrc files. VIM is actually very flexible ;-)
One pretty complex but commented example is Ciaran's. You can find it
at http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/configs/vimrc

If vim (or gvim) is not enough check out Quanta (for php development):
http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/


Cheers,
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Thanks you for your advice.  I'l see if I can get VIM to work for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw

gentuxx wrote:


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Michael Shaw wrote:

 


What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development. I'm looking
for something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi
or gedit.

Thanks,
Mike
   



I seems like you've got a lot of good suggestions here, so I'll just
throw my 2¢ out into the pot too!

For perl, I use vim for quick edits and kate for larger projects.  It
doesn't auto-tab the way I think it should, but that's probably just a
configuration that I haven't given it yet.  ;-)

I like bluefish for HTML|PHP|CSS, but the CSS and PHP colorization is
a little jumpy.  Sometimes it'll do it, sometime it won't.  So then I
started using gphpedit for JUST PHP.  bluefish is nice for (X)?HTML,
and OK for CSS, but more often than not, I find myself comfy with PHP
and CSS in gphpedit.

I might have to look into eclipse though.that sounds interesting.
And I worked with emacs while I was working on some documentation for
the Fedora Documentation Project, I could probably handle that if the
plug-ins worked right.

Anyway, my top pick for perl is kate, for PHP is gPHPEdit.

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I found Bluefish, but the syntax hilighting didn't work.  gPHPEdit looks 
good.  I'll give it a try.  Even if only for syntext hilighting.


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[gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Shawn Singh
Hello all,

Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a zombie machinetwo times.Here are the symptoms:

1. Can't get the mouse to move on the screen
2. See the time is several hours back (thetime that is displayed in the panel)
3. Can't ssh into the box to find out what might be causing the system to be unresponsive.
4. Can't ping the box.

When looking in /var/log in the critical and kernel sections I don't see anywarning messages. I've also looked in the Xorg and sshd logs to see if there is anything in there to indicate what might be happening, butI don't see anything.


I've got a Pentium4 (1300 Mhz), 768Mb RAM. I've had Gentoo on this box for several months now (at least 9) and have not seen this problem before (at least that I can remember).

What log files mightthere be that might give some indications as to the problem that might be causing the system to become unresponsive?Thank you,

Shawn Singh


Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Burak Serdar
Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. It turned out to be a dying
motherboard. Yours might be something else, but it is likely to be a
hardware problem.

On 11/8/05, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a  zombie machine
 two times. Here are the  symptoms:

 1.  Can't get the mouse to move on the screen
 2.  See  the time is several hours back (the time that is displayed in the
 panel)
 3.  Can't ssh into the box to find out what might be causing the system to
 be unresponsive.
 4.  Can't  ping  the box.

 When looking in /var/log in the critical and kernel sections I don't see any
 warning messages. I've also looked in the Xorg and sshd logs to see if there
 is anything in there to indicate what might be happening, but I don't see
 anything.

 I've got a Pentium 4 (1300 Mhz), 768Mb RAM. I've had Gentoo on this box for
 several months now (at least 9) and have not seen this problem before (at
 least  that I can remember).

 What log files might there be that might give some indications as to the
 problem that might be causing the system to become unresponsive?

 Thank you,

 Shawn Singh


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Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Shawn Singh
Ihope it's not the mobo. Did you see any logs that indicated hw failureor anything like that?
On 11/8/05, Burak Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. It turned out to be a dyingmotherboard. Yours might be something else, but it is likely to be a
hardware problem.On 11/8/05, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to azombie machine
 two times. Here are thesymptoms: 1.Can't get the mouse to move on the screen 2.Seethe time is several hours back (the time that is displayed in the panel) 3.Can't ssh into the box to find out what might be causing the system to
 be unresponsive. 4.Can'tpingthe box. When looking in /var/log in the critical and kernel sections I don't see any warning messages. I've also looked in the Xorg and sshd logs to see if there
 is anything in there to indicate what might be happening, but I don't see anything. I've got a Pentium 4 (1300 Mhz), 768Mb RAM. I've had Gentoo on this box for several months now (at least 9) and have not seen this problem before (at
 leastthat I can remember). What log files might there be that might give some indications as to the problem that might be causing the system to become unresponsive? Thank you,
 Shawn Singh--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Shawn Singh


Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote:

Sorry if you might have explained this before, but can you refresh my
memory on what it is, this folding thing you keep referring to? 

W
  

Well, I didn't but I thought most everybody had heard of it. 

http://folding.stanford.edu/

It is a medical research thing that people run on their rigs.  It is
very CPU intensive too.  If you think you have a cooling issue with your
CPU, run folding for a while, it will find it.

No clue yet why it is doing this.  I may post it on the folding forums
and see if anybody else if having this problem.

Thanks,

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] About sed

2005-11-08 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:38:00AM -0200, Rafael Barreto wrote
 Is this right? Well, what I really want is replace just CLOCK=fool1
 by CLOCK=fool2 keeping the comments in line.

  That is not what sed is designed to do.  sed is Streaming EDitor.
You specify an input file, and the changed file goes to STDOUT.  If you
want to change the original file, you need to use ed.  For details,
man ed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kino problem

2005-11-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:34:59 +1000
Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:07:17 -0600
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Willie Wong wrote:
 
 Sorry if you might have explained this before, but can you refresh my
 memory on what it is, this folding thing you keep referring to? 
 
 W
   
 
 Well, I didn't but I thought most everybody had heard of it. 
 
 http://folding.stanford.edu/
 
 It is a medical research thing that people run on their rigs.  It is
 very CPU intensive too.  If you think you have a cooling issue with your
 CPU, run folding for a while, it will find it.
 
 No clue yet why it is doing this.  I may post it on the folding forums
 and see if anybody else if having this problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dale

U is it possible that the screen cpu usage is reflecting the CPU
usage of folding (which is running within a screen session if I read
you posts properly)

perhaps try running some other cpu intensive task within screen and see
what happens?


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Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Joseph
try to run gkrellm2 it might give you some hints if it is a hardware
related problem on process related.

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On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 22:43 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote:
 Hello all,
  
 Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a  zombie
 machine two times. Here are the  symptoms:
  
 1.  Can't get the mouse to move on the screen
 2.  See  the time is several hours back (the time that is displayed in
 the panel)
 3.  Can't ssh into the box to find out what might be causing the
 system to be unresponsive.
 4.  Can't  ping  the box.
  
 When looking in /var/log in the critical and kernel sections I don't
 see any warning messages. I've also looked in the Xorg and sshd logs
 to see if there is anything in there to indicate what might be
 happening, but I don't see anything.
  
 I've got a Pentium 4 (1300 Mhz), 768Mb RAM. I've had Gentoo on this
 box for several months now (at least 9) and have not seen this problem
 before (at  least  that I can remember).
  
 What log files might there be that might give some indications as to
 the problem that might be causing the system to become unresponsive?
 
 Thank you,
  
 Shawn Singh
  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 19:07 -0500 schrieb Thomas Tuttle:
 On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled:
  What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
  something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
 I can offer three suggestions:
 
 1. vim.  If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will
 do syntax highlighting properly.
 
 2. jedit.  It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file
 types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins.

Want to second jEdit for it's platform independency and many nice
plugins.

 
 3. bluefish.  It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP
 support (I might be wrong), and it's a good web development editor.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 06:15:36PM +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
 U is it possible that the screen cpu usage is reflecting the CPU
 usage of folding (which is running within a screen session if I read
 you posts properly)
 
 perhaps try running some other cpu intensive task within screen and see
 what happens?
 

The OP mentioned he tried compiling mozilla inside of screen. And the
CPU usage was normal for screen. So I don't think this possibility is
likely. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shaw

Heinz Sporn wrote:


Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 19:07 -0500 schrieb Thomas Tuttle:
 


On November 08 at 13:33 EST, Michael Shaw hastily scribbled:
   

What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
 


I can offer three suggestions:

1. vim.  If you set it up right (just a few lines in ~/.vimrc), it will
do syntax highlighting properly.

2. jedit.  It's java-based, but relatively light, supports many file
types (although it is a tad Java-centric), and has good plugins.
   



Want to second jEdit for it's platform independency and many nice
plugins.

 


3. bluefish.  It's not language-centric, but I *think* it has PHP
support (I might be wrong), and it's a good web development editor.

Hope this helps.

   

Alright, I'll give jEdit a try to.  Thanks to everyone for all their 
suggestions.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:07:17PM -0600, Dale wrote:
 Well, I didn't but I thought most everybody had heard of it. 
 
 http://folding.stanford.edu/
 
 It is a medical research thing that people run on their rigs.  It is
 very CPU intensive too.  If you think you have a cooling issue with your
 CPU, run folding for a while, it will find it.
 
 No clue yet why it is doing this.  I may post it on the folding forums
 and see if anybody else if having this problem.
 

Oh... the protein folding thing. Since you run it in screen, I assume
you are running the text-mode client? Just out of curiousity, on the
two boxes you have, did you run the same version of the client? 

I just downloaded the stable version (FAH502-Linux.exe) and have been
running it in screen for the last hour or so. So far I cannot see the
same behaviour you are describing. One thing I noticed, for some
reason the one I am running is loading FahCore_82, while yours load
78 

Anyway, did you install foldingathome through portage? What is the
command you are using to start the process? 

Try downloading the client directly from the Stanford website, put it
in a new directory, cd to that directory, and issue
  screen ./FAH502-Linux.exe
and see if the problem persists. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Nick Rout wrote:



U is it possible that the screen cpu usage is reflecting the CPU
usage of folding (which is running within a screen session if I read
you posts properly)

perhaps try running some other cpu intensive task within screen and see
what happens?


  

I tried that and it worked fine.  I started a screen session and emerged
mozilla.  The merge stuff showed heavy CPU usage but screen only showed
1 or 2%, like it should.

I really think this has something to do with folding itself somehow. 
Screen is actually taking up the CPU time though.  Folding is really
slow when it does this, real slow.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen is being a CPU hog, big time!!!

2005-11-08 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote:


Oh... the protein folding thing. Since you run it in screen, I assume
you are running the text-mode client? Just out of curiousity, on the
two boxes you have, did you run the same version of the client? 

I just downloaded the stable version (FAH502-Linux.exe) and have been
running it in screen for the last hour or so. So far I cannot see the
same behaviour you are describing. One thing I noticed, for some
reason the one I am running is loading FahCore_82, while yours load
78 

Anyway, did you install foldingathome through portage? What is the
command you are using to start the process? 

Try downloading the client directly from the Stanford website, put it
in a new directory, cd to that directory, and issue
  screen ./FAH502-Linux.exe
and see if the problem persists. 

W
  

Well I used finstall.  The reason I did that is because of my quad CPU
Compaq server.  With finstall, it handles all 4 CPUs and the same time
and with one command to start or stop.  It is a really nice way to do
it.  I like consistancy so I installed it on all my rigs.  I also fell
in love with the screen thing as well.  Funny huh?  LOL

I posted a thread on the folding forums.  If no one replies before to
long, I'm going to delete and start over with a fresh install.  Maybe I
got a bug or something.  Knowing me, I just screwed up something.  LOL 
It happens, especially with me.  :(  The best thing that has happened to
me in a very long time is finding my new lady, after 15 years of looking
I might add.

Thanks

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Cliff Wells
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 22:43 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote:
 Hello all,
  
 Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a  zombie
 machine two times. Here are the  symptoms:
  

It does sound like hardware.  I'd check three things first:

1) Are all the fans in the system working?
2) Check for swollen or leaking capacitors (see
http://www.trendit.co.za/capacitor.htm).  This is *really* common, so
don't discount it until you've checked.
3) Run memtest86 overnight.

If none of these seem to be the cause, I'd try swapping power supplies
next.

Regards,
Cliff

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Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up

2005-11-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:52:56 -0700
Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 try to run gkrellm2 it might give you some hints if it is a hardware
 related problem on process related.
 
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