Re: [gentoo-user] Modules autoloading?
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 02:05:09PM -0700, Penguin Lover Richard Fish squawked: > On 4/28/06, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any clue as to where I can turn off this behaviour? I checked the > > config files for udev and /etc/conf.d/rc, and I don't see anything > > obvious. > > The modules are loaded when /lib/rcscripts/addons/udev-start.sh runs > udevtrigger, which goes through /sys looking for unhandled 'uevents'. > As part of this handling, it tries to load modules for any hardware > that is attached. > > AFAICT, at this point you have to remove the devices from > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.alias to prevent udev from loading > them. > But if I understand this correctly, isn't modules.alias generated by depmod? And isn't module dependencies calculated during boot? So would the file not be regenerated on the next reboot? W -- "He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills. To add weight to his words he stuck the rabbit bone in his hair. He spread his arms out wide. `I will go mad!' he announced." - Arthur discovering a way of coping with life on Prehistoric Earth. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 167 days, 23:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] error installing jabberd
hi I'm trying to install a jabberd on gentoo. but all I get is the following error. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/jabberd-2.0.10/work/jabberd-2.0s10' make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/jabberd-2.0.10/work/jabberd-2.0s10' * 'enewgroup()' called from 'install()' which is not a pkg_* function. * Package fails at QA and at life. Please file a bug. !!! ERROR: net-im/jabberd-2.0.10 failed. !!! Function enewgroup, Line 648, Exitcode 0 !!! Bad package! enewgroup is only for use in pkg_* functions! !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. thanks in advance __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] You, Gentoo and Google's Summer of Code.
Hi all, Some of you may already be familiar with Google's Summer of Code[1], which is a program that offers student developers stipends to create new open source programs or to help currently established projects. Google works with a variety of open source, free software, and technology-related groups to identify and fund several hundred projects over a three-month period. The inaugural instance of the program, which took place last summer, brough together 400 students and 40 mentoring organisations from 49 countries. This year they are making room for even more organisations and particpants. The goal of the program is to inspire young developers and provide students in Computer Science and related fields the opportunity to do work related to their academic pursuits during the summer, and to support existing open source projects and organisations. This year Gentoo is particpating as a mentoring organisation. So, if you still haven't found that perfect summer job... this may be worth checking out. We are looking for people passionate about open source, and Gentoo in particular. Do you have the time to spend about 30 hours per week working on Gentoo this summer? Are you a team player? Are you curious? Why not check out our page with ideas, or if you have an idea of your own, even better! Think outside the box and send us a proposal, we may just want to go for it. Should you decide to particpate, we will be accepting Student applications via the Google Site from May 1st till midnight May 8th. If you are interested and would like to discuss any of our current project ideas, or your own idea before applying I urge you to come chat with us on IRC[2] or to subscribe to the Gentoo Summer of Code mailing list[3]. We would love to hear from you. Accepted students would be paired up with a team of two mentors, one primary mentor and one back up mentor. Gentoo are interested in your success with your project and we would at all times provide excellent support from your mentor(s), your mentor(s) would be available to answer any questions you may have, help you do your research and trouble shooting, and to generally ensure that we were doing our best to ensure that the experience was a great one for both you and Gentoo. So, if this sounds at all interesting, check out the project page[4] which lists the ideas currently proposed. Read the Student FAQ[5] to ensure that you are eligible to participate and head over to speak with us on IRC or the ML. Now, anyone can submit project ideas and contribute to the discussion of existing project ideas. Should you simply be interested in Summer of Code but fall outside the catchment area, be short on time or for any other reason unable to participate this year you are of course more than welcome to still partake in the discussion(s) both on IRC and on the ML. We love hearing from you! Christel Dahlskjaer on behalf of the Gentoo SoC Team [1]http://code.google.com/soc [2]#gentoo-soc on irc.freenode.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send a blank e-mail to subscribe. [4]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/user-relations/summerofcode/index.xml [5]http://code.google.com/soc/studentfaq.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no net modules will load
It would seem that you failed to configure the necessary modules for loading any of the modules you list. Also, as of kernel 2.6.13, devfs is no longer in the kernel and you must use udev. without it you will never get your devices to be recognised. I do hope you kept your old kernel around so that you can boot to it. ciao On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 19:34 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, After running -Du gentoo-sources, I noted that /etc/modules.autoload.d/2.6 had been overwritten by a blank form. So I re-wrote it and rebooted. All, and *only* modules having to do with net stuff, ie, ppp, eth0, serial devices etc failed to load. Here's a sample from dmesg: kb ppp_generic: Unknown symbol alloc_skb ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol skb_queue_purge ppp_generic: Unknown symbol skb_queue_purge ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol __pskb_pull_tail ppp_generic: Unknown symbol __pskb_pull_tail ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol netif_rx ppp_generic: Unknown symbol netif_rx ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol alloc_netdev ppp_generic: Unknown symbol alloc_netdev ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol __kfree_skb ppp_generic: Unknown symbol __kfree_skb ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol skb_queue_head ppp_generic: Unknown symbol skb_queue_head ppp_async: Unknown symbol ppp_channel_index ppp_async: Unknown symbol ppp_register_channel ppp_async: disagrees about version of symbol skb_deque Similar for forcedeth, serial_8250 etc. Sound, video, timers etc all loaded OK. >From the forums I found the suggestion to save .config, do a make mrproper, copy back the config and re-compile. Had no effect. So I figured, since I just downloaded the 2.6.16-r3 sources(been using 2.6.12-r6) I should just compile a fresh kernel. But that didn't work either. Here's my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kern-2.6: # /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: kernel modules to load when system boots. # # Note that this file is for 2.6 kernels. # # Add the names of modules that you'd like to load when the system # starts into this file, one per line. Comments begin with # and # are ignored. Read man modules.autoload for additional details. # For example: # 3c59x #ip_conntrack_ftp #ip_conntrack_irc #ip_tables #ipt_mac #ipt_REDIRECT #ipt_REJECT #ip_nat_ftp #iptable_filter #ip_nat_irc #ipt_LOG #ipt_iprange #ipt_pkttype #ipt_MASQUERADE #iptable_nat #ipt_multiport #ip_conntrack #binfmt_aout #slhc 8250 unix #af_packet cpuid snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 snd snd-pcm soundcore forcedeth ppp_async ppp_generic ppp_deflate nvram bsd_comp usbcore ehci-hcd ohci-hcd usbhid usb-storage agpgart nvidia-agp loop #serport #s2io rtc #mii #acpiphp #pci_hotplug Here's a grep "net" from the new .config: # Networking CONFIG_NET=y # Networking options # CONFIG_NETDEBUG is not set # CONFIG_NET_KEY is not set CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_INET_AH is not set # CONFIG_INET_ESP is not set # CONFIG_INET_IPCOMP is not set # CONFIG_INET_TUNNEL is not set # CONFIG_INET_DIAG is not set # CONFIG_INET6_AH is not set # CONFIG_INET6_ESP is not set # CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP is not set # CONFIG_INET6_TUNNEL is not set CONFIG_NETFILTER=y # CONFIG_NETFILTER_DEBUG is not set # Core Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_NETFILTER_NETLINK is not set # CONFIG_NETFILTER_XTABLES is not set # IP: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP_NF_NETBIOS_NS is not set # IPv6: Netfilter Configuration (EXPERIMENTAL) # CONFIG_DECNET is not set # CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set # Network testing # CONFIG_NET_PKTGEN is not set # Network device support CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y # ARCnet devices # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set # Tulip family network device support # CONFIG_NET_TULIP is not set CONFIG_NET_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) # Ethernet (1 Mbit) # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set # CONFIG_NET_FC is not set # CONFIG_NETCONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_NETPOLL is not set # CONFIG_NET_POLL_CONTROLLER is not set # USB Network Adapters # CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set CONFIG_USB_GADGET_NET2280=y CONFIG_USB_NET2280=m # Network File Systems Now I'm stuck cause I can't get back on line to fix it. Unless it's from WinXP:^( -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[gentoo-user] no net modules will load
Hi group, After running -Du gentoo-sources, I noted that /etc/modules.autoload.d/2.6 had been overwritten by a blank form. So I re-wrote it and rebooted. All, and *only* modules having to do with net stuff, ie, ppp, eth0, serial devices etc failed to load. Here's a sample from dmesg: kb ppp_generic: Unknown symbol alloc_skb ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol skb_queue_purge ppp_generic: Unknown symbol skb_queue_purge ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol __pskb_pull_tail ppp_generic: Unknown symbol __pskb_pull_tail ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol netif_rx ppp_generic: Unknown symbol netif_rx ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol alloc_netdev ppp_generic: Unknown symbol alloc_netdev ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol __kfree_skb ppp_generic: Unknown symbol __kfree_skb ppp_generic: disagrees about version of symbol skb_queue_head ppp_generic: Unknown symbol skb_queue_head ppp_async: Unknown symbol ppp_channel_index ppp_async: Unknown symbol ppp_register_channel ppp_async: disagrees about version of symbol skb_deque Similar for forcedeth, serial_8250 etc. Sound, video, timers etc all loaded OK. >From the forums I found the suggestion to save .config, do a make mrproper, copy back the config and re-compile. Had no effect. So I figured, since I just downloaded the 2.6.16-r3 sources(been using 2.6.12-r6) I should just compile a fresh kernel. But that didn't work either. Here's my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kern-2.6: # /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: kernel modules to load when system boots. # # Note that this file is for 2.6 kernels. # # Add the names of modules that you'd like to load when the system # starts into this file, one per line. Comments begin with # and # are ignored. Read man modules.autoload for additional details. # For example: # 3c59x #ip_conntrack_ftp #ip_conntrack_irc #ip_tables #ipt_mac #ipt_REDIRECT #ipt_REJECT #ip_nat_ftp #iptable_filter #ip_nat_irc #ipt_LOG #ipt_iprange #ipt_pkttype #ipt_MASQUERADE #iptable_nat #ipt_multiport #ip_conntrack #binfmt_aout #slhc 8250 unix #af_packet cpuid snd-ac97-codec snd-intel8x0 snd snd-pcm soundcore forcedeth ppp_async ppp_generic ppp_deflate nvram bsd_comp usbcore ehci-hcd ohci-hcd usbhid usb-storage agpgart nvidia-agp loop #serport #s2io rtc #mii #acpiphp #pci_hotplug Here's a grep "net" from the new .config: # Networking CONFIG_NET=y # Networking options # CONFIG_NETDEBUG is not set # CONFIG_NET_KEY is not set CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_INET_AH is not set # CONFIG_INET_ESP is not set # CONFIG_INET_IPCOMP is not set # CONFIG_INET_TUNNEL is not set # CONFIG_INET_DIAG is not set # CONFIG_INET6_AH is not set # CONFIG_INET6_ESP is not set # CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP is not set # CONFIG_INET6_TUNNEL is not set CONFIG_NETFILTER=y # CONFIG_NETFILTER_DEBUG is not set # Core Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_NETFILTER_NETLINK is not set # CONFIG_NETFILTER_XTABLES is not set # IP: Netfilter Configuration # CONFIG_IP_NF_NETBIOS_NS is not set # IPv6: Netfilter Configuration (EXPERIMENTAL) # CONFIG_DECNET is not set # CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set # Network testing # CONFIG_NET_PKTGEN is not set # Network device support CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y # ARCnet devices # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set # Tulip family network device support # CONFIG_NET_TULIP is not set CONFIG_NET_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) # Ethernet (1 Mbit) # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set # CONFIG_NET_FC is not set # CONFIG_NETCONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_NETPOLL is not set # CONFIG_NET_POLL_CONTROLLER is not set # USB Network Adapters # CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set CONFIG_USB_GADGET_NET2280=y CONFIG_USB_NET2280=m # Network File Systems Now I'm stuck cause I can't get back on line to fix it. Unless it's from WinXP:^( -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
Hemmann Volker Armin wrote: Only, and really only after a kernel update you need to reboot. Perhaps not even then. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-adfly.html -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
On Friday 28 April 2006 20:04, Phil Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system': > Kevin wrote: > > Hi All- > > > > I've read the portage documentation at > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched > > and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a > > question that I don't see answered anywhere. > > > > It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system > > upgrade done with: > > > > emerge -uD system > > or > > emerge -uD world > > > > I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. > > I reboot if I need to install or change hardware. As far as > updates go, you may have to reboot after compiling a new kernel. > > I think that I may have read somewhere how to change kernels > without rebooting, so you may not even need to reboot for any > software. Theoretically it's possible just by writing to /proc/kmem -- IIRC, that was one of the reasons it was writable: so you could apply (binary) patches against a running kernel. I've never seen any non-malware that does so. There is a GPL'd proof-of-concept rootkit that will hide its existence by modifying /proc/kmem. (The rootkit doesn't actually do anything malicious and you have to have root access to modify /proc/kmem; the rootkit was just showing how to do this trickery without loading a module) There's also the new kexec feature option in mm kernels (and it might have come mainline) that allows the kernel to start another kernel instead of rebooting your hardware. That's basically as bad as a reboot anyway, because all services come down and all users are kicked out -- it is faster though, because you don't go down to the bootloader/BIOS level. I found it (or my hardware) was a little bit buggy. My USB drivers would only work every other kexec. Since I use a USB keyboard, this wasn't a workable solution. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpwabKSMiqJ4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
On Saturday 29 April 2006 02:42, Kevin wrote: > > It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system > upgrade done with: > > emerge -uD system > or > emerge -uD world > > I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. short answer: no long answer: only after kernel updates > I could be wrong on this, but it seems reasonable to me to think that I > should reboot in certain circumstances. Perhaps after an upgrade to the > glibc package or other libraries... not sure. you are wrong. You don't need to reboot. Only, and really only after a kernel update you need to reboot. Services might to have to be restarted, but that requires no reboot, just a console and root. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
You need to run etc-update (or one of it's cousins) if you are told files need updating. After that run the /etc/init.d/sshd restart. On Friday April 28 2006 20:55, Kevin wrote: > On a related note, what is the most correct procedure for restarting a > service after an update to a service (say named or cyrus-imapd or apache > or sshd)? > > I've been doing something like this: > > # emerge -v openssh > examine config file differences and make any adjustments that are > required to be done by hand. > # /etc/init.d/sshd stop > # mv -i /etc/init.d/._cfg_sshd /etc/init.d/sshd > # /etc/init.d/sshd start > > But I've noticed that there are cases when this general procedure > doesn't work. Perhaps because binaries change location between package > versions and the old /etc/init.d/service script presumes the old package > binary location and the new package has already been installed so the > new binaries are no longer with the old startup script thinks they are. > In those cases, I usually find the service with ps and kill it by hand, > then zap the service and start it again, using the new start script, but > maybe there's a better way. Seems to me that it might be better to do > something like this: -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
Kevin wrote: Hi All- I've read the portage documentation at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a question that I don't see answered anywhere. It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system upgrade done with: emerge -uD system or emerge -uD world I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. I reboot if I need to install or change hardware. As far as updates go, you may have to reboot after compiling a new kernel. I think that I may have read somewhere how to change kernels without rebooting, so you may not even need to reboot for any software. -- Phil My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info/ Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/ Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ Free tunes: ftp://http://fancypiper.info/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
Kevin wrote: > Hi All- > > I've read the portage documentation at > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched > and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a question > that I don't see answered anywhere. > > It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system > upgrade done with: > > emerge -uD system > or > emerge -uD world > > I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. Nah, you can restart pretty much any service to get the new version going. Technically you shouldn't ever have to reboot except kernel updates. (We aren't running windows here) ;) HTH, (unofficial advice) -Jeremy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
On a related note, what is the most correct procedure for restarting a service after an update to a service (say named or cyrus-imapd or apache or sshd)? I've been doing something like this: # emerge -v openssh examine config file differences and make any adjustments that are required to be done by hand. # /etc/init.d/sshd stop # mv -i /etc/init.d/._cfg_sshd /etc/init.d/sshd # /etc/init.d/sshd start But I've noticed that there are cases when this general procedure doesn't work. Perhaps because binaries change location between package versions and the old /etc/init.d/service script presumes the old package binary location and the new package has already been installed so the new binaries are no longer with the old startup script thinks they are. In those cases, I usually find the service with ps and kill it by hand, then zap the service and start it again, using the new start script, but maybe there's a better way. Seems to me that it might be better to do something like this: # /etc/init.d/sshd stop # emerge -v openssh examine config file differences and make any adjustments that are required to be done by hand. # mv -i /etc/init.d/._cfg_sshd /etc/init.d/sshd # /etc/init.d/sshd start But if I'm remotely logged in to the box using ssh, then this has some obvious problems (my connection to the box goes down when I turn off the sshd daemon). Any thoughts on this issue? -Kevin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
You've been hanging around Windows users too much . Linux normally doesn't require a reboot. Sometimes you have to restart the deamons with the /etc/init.d/whatever restart. On Friday April 28 2006 20:42, Kevin wrote: > Hi All- > > I've read the portage documentation at > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched > and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a question > that I don't see answered anywhere. > > It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system > upgrade done with: > > emerge -uD system > or > emerge -uD world > > I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. > > I could be wrong on this, but it seems reasonable to me to think that I > should reboot in certain circumstances. Perhaps after an upgrade to the snip > -Kevin -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
Hi All- I've read the portage documentation at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a question that I don't see answered anywhere. It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system upgrade done with: emerge -uD system or emerge -uD world I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. I could be wrong on this, but it seems reasonable to me to think that I should reboot in certain circumstances. Perhaps after an upgrade to the glibc package or other libraries... not sure. Am I right about this? If so, can someone tell me under exactly what circumstances I should reboot immediately after a system update such as these above? (ie. if glibc gets updated, if you add a new USE flag that requires recompiling certain packages, after an update to the sysvinit package, etc.) I realize of course that if I compile a new kernel and want to use the new kernel then I need to configure the boot manager and reboot with the new kernel, but it seems to me that there would be other circumstances aside from this that would require a reboot after a system update. Thanks for any replies. -Kevin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp and/or mailx delivery problem
What is the senders address? That is where the first clue will be. On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 15:34 -0400, John J. Foster wrote: The following script is run as part of a nitely cron job. //garbanzo/home/festus > cat /usr/bin/emerge_sync.sh #! /bin/bash ## /usr/bin/emerge_sync.sh # Sync now /usr/sbin/eix-sync 2>&1 glsa-check --test all 2>&1 | mailx -s "GLSA check on $(hostname)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] emerge world --update --deep --tree --newuse --pretend --verbose | mailx -s "Updated packages for $(hostname)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This has been executing properly every night for about 7 months now. The following is what I started getting back as of last night, and a few test runs today from a CLI. send-mail: 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender address rejected: Address locked or deactivated; see http://mail.messagingengine.com/docs/locked.html (all on one line) I use ssmtp to get mail off of my machine, and this still works fine from within mutt. /var/log/mail.* and /var/log/messages files do not provide any clues. The last system updates were: Tue Apr 25 07:20:24 2006 >>> sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r2 Tue Apr 25 08:38:20 2006 >>> sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 Tue Apr 25 08:38:53 2006 >>> app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 Tue Apr 25 08:39:32 2006 >>> sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre18-r1 Tue Apr 25 08:40:18 2006 >>> media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.11 Tue Apr 25 08:43:24 2006 >>> media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.11 Tue Apr 25 08:44:24 2006 >>> media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.11 Tue Apr 25 08:44:53 2006 >>> app-portage/portage-utils-0.1.15 Tue Apr 25 08:45:51 2006 >>> app-editors/nano-1.3.10-r1 Tue Apr 25 08:48:15 2006 >>> sys-fs/xfsprogs-2.7.11 Tue Apr 25 08:48:44 2006 >>> sys-apps/memtest86+-1.65 Tue Apr 25 11:19:29 2006 >>> net-misc/tightvnc-1.2.9-r1 However, the overnight script ran just fine after these updates Wednesday AM. Does anyone know what might be going on here? Thanks, festus
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: FontForge needs conversion from ISO-8859-1 to UCS2 - iconv (glibc-2.3.5-r2) does not support it on amd64
Ignore the $GCONV_PATH bit. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: FontForge needs conversion from ISO-8859-1 to UCS2 - iconv (glibc-2.3.5-r2) does not support it on amd64
Could this be related to the fact that for my normal user I see: $ echo $GCONV_PATH /usr/lib32/gconv (root doesn't have that env var set at all) On 4/26/06, Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After doing: # mv lib32{,-bak} # ln -s lib64 lib32 I saw the following results: $ iconv --from-code ISO-8859-1 --to-code UCS2 wrote: > from that output: > ---snip > open("/usr/lib32/gconv/UNICODE.so", O_RDONLY) = 4 > read(4, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 \5\0\000"..., 640) = 640 > close(4)= 0 > open("/usr/lib32/gconv/ISO8859-1.so", O_RDONLY) = 4 > read(4, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\4\0"..., 640) = 640 > close(4)= 0 > ---snip > > So it opens a file, reads 640 bytes and closes it. Note the "/lib32". > Now this is my output, 32bit platform: > > ---snip > open("/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so", O_RDONLY) = 3 > read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\4\0"..., 512) = 512 > fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=9720, ...}) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 12316, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb7de4000 > mmap2(0xb7de6000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1) = 0xb7de6000 > ---snip > > So after reading the first 512 bytes, it mmap's a code section and a > data section into address space. Dynamic loading, I'd say (without > further debugging). So this seems to fail for you and I think the > "lib32" indicates that the 64bit glibc errorneously tries to load the > wrong modules for iconv. > > Maybe you can temporarily move the lib32/gconv dir and soft link the > lib64/gconf in place of it to verify my assumption (it should work > then, but this is obviously not a solution as it will break 32bit > environment). You might want to file a bug into gentoo's bugzilla > (after searching for an existing one, of course). > > > By looking at /usr/lib{64,32}/gconv/gconv-modules (wich are identical) > > it looks like there really isn't any conversion specified from > > ISO-8859-1 to any other code. > > Strange. Mine has: > ---snip > module ISO-8859-1//INTERNALISO8859-1 1 > ---snip > > (whatever that means) > > -hwh > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gziiping files in /usr/share/doc/
> Yrjö Hatakka wrote: > > How can I turn this retarded behaviour off ? > > What behavior? Storing documentation in /usr/share/doc? or storing gzipped > documentation? > > If it's the first one, as far as I know, you can't. > > If it's the latter, why would you want to do that? It saves some HD space.. > Also, you don't have to uncompress those files manually to read them--VIM, > less, and surely many more text editors/readers that have gzip support will > do that for you. Well Thanks but Mike Owens answer was so much more helpfull and to the point. Thanks Mike -- ykä at home -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Modules autoloading?
On 4/28/06, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any clue as to where I can turn off this behaviour? I checked the config files for udev and /etc/conf.d/rc, and I don't see anything obvious. The modules are loaded when /lib/rcscripts/addons/udev-start.sh runs udevtrigger, which goes through /sys looking for unhandled 'uevents'. As part of this handling, it tries to load modules for any hardware that is attached. AFAICT, at this point you have to remove the devices from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.alias to prevent udev from loading them. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Cyrus and saslauthd
Now I’m getting thse error messages Apr 28 15:45:37 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:37 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:40 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:40 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] imaps TLS negotiation failed: host[x.x.x.x] Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] imaps TLS negotiation failed: host[x.x.x.x] Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] imaps TLS negotiation failed: host[x.x.x.x] Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] imaps TLS negotiation failed: host[x.x.x.x] Apr 28 15:45:42 [imaps] Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed I’m really at a loss on what to try. I use sendmail/cyrus/mysql and saslauthd. I updated some packages today and now I’m getting disconnect from my mail server. It’s logging this. Apr 28 15:18:43 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:18:43 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:18:51 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:18:51 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:19:19 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:19:19 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ I found some articles on google and the gentoo forum but the fixes didn’t seem to help this is what I did. # /etc/init.d/cyrus stop . . $ sudo -u cyrus bash $ cd /var/imap/ $ rm db/* $ rm db.backup?/* $ rm deliver.db $ rm tls_sessions.db $ /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_mboxlist -d > mailboxes.txt $ mv mailboxes.db mailboxes.db.old $ /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_mboxlist -u < mailboxes.txt $ diff mailboxes.db* Files mailboxes.db and mailboxes.db.old differ After a few mins of cyrus running it booms and does this. Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26608 in READY state: terminated abnormally Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] Fatal error: imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26609 in READY state: terminated abnormally Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] Fatal error: imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26610 in READY state: terminated abnormally I need help. Thanks. This message contains information from SourceLink - Madison which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify by email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
[gentoo-user] Cyrus and saslauthd
I use sendmail/cyrus/mysql and saslauthd. I updated some packages today and now I’m getting disconnect from my mail server. It’s logging this. Apr 28 15:18:43 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:18:43 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:18:51 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:18:51 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:19:19 [pop3] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:19:19 [pop3] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ I found some articles on google and the gentoo forum but the fixes didn’t seem to help this is what I did. # /etc/init.d/cyrus stop . . $ sudo -u cyrus bash $ cd /var/imap/ $ rm db/* $ rm db.backup?/* $ rm deliver.db $ rm tls_sessions.db $ /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_mboxlist -d > mailboxes.txt $ mv mailboxes.db mailboxes.db.old $ /usr/lib/cyrus/ctl_mboxlist -u < mailboxes.txt $ diff mailboxes.db* Files mailboxes.db and mailboxes.db.old differ After a few mins of cyrus running it booms and does this. Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26608 in READY state: terminated abnormally Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] Fatal error: imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26609 in READY state: terminated abnormally Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] sql_select option missing Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [imaps] Fatal error: imaps: required OpenSSL options not present Apr 28 15:20:33 [master] service imaps pid 26610 in READY state: terminated abnormally I need help. Thanks. This message contains information from SourceLink - Madison which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify by email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Re: [gentoo-user] gziiping files in /usr/share/doc/
Yrjö Hatakka wrote: How can I turn this retarded behaviour off ? What behavior? Storing documentation in /usr/share/doc? or storing gzipped documentation? If it's the first one, as far as I know, you can't. If it's the latter, why would you want to do that? It saves some HD space. Also, you don't have to uncompress those files manually to read them--VIM, less, and surely many more text editors/readers that have gzip support will do that for you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gziiping files in /usr/share/doc/
On 4/28/06, Yrjö Hatakka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How can I turn this retarded behaviour off ? -- ykä at home There are a few bugs open on bugzilla for this. I personally hate it, so I made a small patch for portage to disable it. If you want to disable it for the future, edit /usr/lib/portage/bin/dodoc, and remove the gzip line. Every time you update portage, you'll need to modify that file. Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] I'm going crazy ;-)
What's happening about locales/languages? I've tried to install PHP-Nuke and Xoops, but one of them (I don't remember which one, now ;-)) doesn't like utf8 encoding, because it creates too long primary keys for MySQL. So I remerged MySQL and replaced "utf8" with "latin1" in /etc/mysql/my.conf. I've emerged Mediawiki (thanks Ric!) with the math USE flag, but when I try to save a page containing a formula I get the error message: "1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_swedish_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (localhost)" Yes! My wikidb database was created with latin1_swedish_ci collation!!! And phpmyadmin says to me that MySQL charset is utf8!!! Who has set those collation values??? I didn't... Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3
> Hi, > > Well, It's me again, > I was satisfied too quickly ! > After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully, > gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic). > I really don't know what to do now :-( > Any idea ? > > Thanks a lot, > > --- Jacques -- check xorg logs for drivers version mismatch, for example if u have following mouse driver version 1.1.0 installed, downgrade to 1.0.4, same for keybord * x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse Available versions: 1.0.4 [M] 1.1.0 too new xorg-server version and input drivers just doesnt work with ati-drivers m -- Linux 2.6.15-ck7 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 22:44:09 up 15:22, 6 users, load average: 1.10, 1.19, 1.11 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gziiping files in /usr/share/doc/
How can I turn this retarded behaviour off ? -- ykä at home -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Modules autoloading?
Dear all, I performed a massive update on my laptop last night, and started observing the following behaviour on boot. A message would pop-up saying to the effect that "udev is processing kernel events" and then proceeds to load a bunch of kernel modules which I didn't specify for loading in /etc/modules.autoload.d In autoload, I only specified 'bcm570x' for my NIC, but after the updates, the computer would automatically load the 'ipw2200' module for wireless and 'radeon_fb' (which I was playing with for a while but have decided not to use). Any clue as to where I can turn off this behaviour? I checked the config files for udev and /etc/conf.d/rc, and I don't see anything obvious. Thanks, Willie -- I always took a cup of tea with me to chemistry class, and I know Dr. Pearshall won't mind, because she is British. ~S Sortir en Pantoufles: up 167 days, 12:01 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo 2006.0 DVD hangs !
Hi there, I downloaded the ISO image and as I didn't have a blank CD handy, I burned it onto a single layer DVD [after all it was an ISO image, right?] and hoped for the best. My PC now boots off it, shows lovely startup splash etc till it tries to start GDM. At that point - the mouse pointer changes to a clock [waiting for the background to draw in gdmgreeter I think] - and it just keeps waiting. 1. My machine is an athlon-xp with modo integrated nvidia gefore2 disabled and onboard GeForce4 FS 5600 enabled. No problems so far with hardware. My previous issues with soundcard and rootdisk ultimately traced out to be udev issues. 2. top shows 99+ % CPU hogged by gdmgreeter on a constant basis. As it is a released ISO, I wouldn't expect problems here - but I do ;-( Has anyone else had it? Could it be because I am using a DVD to burn that CD image? [It boots fine, and I thought it was just media type...] Would appreciate responses please. regards, Rohit -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Packages CD image
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 10:42 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote: > Hi, > Can't find anything, too. > As last resort, if your "arch" is at at least "i686" you could use the > liveCD-2006.0 directly (to install) or start it and using "quickpkg" > make your own binary packages. Save them elsewhere, and use later. > If arch < i686 can't help. > BTW: check for "Kuroraa-0.2" or better "RR4-3.0b", the second is a half > full DVD with many packages (may be even too many ;) - Gentoo derivates. > HTH.Rumen Speaking of quickpkg, does anyone know if one can run quickpkg on an AMD and have it run on a pentium M? I compiled my main desktop which is an ADM64 with: -O3 -msse2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse -march=athlon-xp -pipe I am going away for 2 weeks and I am snagging my wife's laptop and ditching WinXP. I don't have time to build a fully functional Gentoo system so I was hoping to be able to use my current one. My only other option would be Ubuntu or bloated Fedora. Thanks, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
And Thomas, I have a pavilion, it runs flawless for a LONG time now, so, don't say that kinda stuff about it, my notebook have feelings, you know... oops sorry , I like the laptops actually, a lot, the Pavillion I had I bought used from someone was a desktop. The previous owner bought a mac cuz it had been locking up with windows, I figured it was spyware etc... So I'll rephrase... I'm building my puters from now on. That way I know what goes in it, and I know what goes on it. ;) Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- Thomas G. Willis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Daniel da Veiga wrote: >On 4/28/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >>I ran into this with a family member recently, the CPU was running hot >>and the mobo was cutting the CPU off. The only way to get it back up >>again was to reboot. She kept doing this though, thinking it was >>windoze, until the CPU burned out. >> >>If you are using Gentoo and it does this during a compile, check the CPU >>heatsink for dust and make sure the fan is spinning as it should. May >>also want to check those temps if you can. Most newer mobos have that. >> >>It could also be something else getting hot, drive, memory, one of the >>chips on the mobo, northbridge comes to mind. >> >>Don't wait until something burns out to find out what it is. :\ >> >>Dale >>:-) :-) >> >>-- >>gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> >> >> > >I completely agree with Dale, Pentium 4 is known for heat problems, I >have to use cpufreqd and write rules to let the CPU cool down by >lowering the frequency while compiling/playing. If you have thermal >zone option checked with ACPI in your kernel, it would reboot at >around 73C, if not, it would just go up and eventually lock up. > >Hard drives and memory also heat a lot, check them too. > >And Thomas, I have a pavilion, it runs flawless for a LONG time now, >so, don't say that kinda stuff about it, my notebook have feelings, >you know... > >-- >Daniel da Veiga >Computer Operator - RS - Brazil >-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- >Version: 3.1 >GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- >PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ >--END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > > That is really true if you have one of those small OEM heatsinks. I have a AMD 2500+ in my rig and I have the ThermalTake Venus 12 with the fans running in temp controlled mode. The highest I have seen mine run in a long time is about 98F. I run folding 24/7 on my systems too. Compiling or running folding will not last long on those small OEM heatsinks. They are just barely enough for everyday use. If you have a OEM heatsink, invest in a better one. The heatsinks are larger and the fans are better too. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice weirdness
On Thursday 27 April 2006 18:11, James wrote: > Hello, > > OpenOffice has worked wonderfully for me for some time now, until just > yesterday. I do not use openoffice regularly so I not sure which update > caused the problem. > > On both these versions: 2.0.1-r1 and 2.0.2-r2 > > I get the same problem: > > ooffice2 lauches the apps just fine. When I go to save a document as a > '.doc' file I get a Sorry-OpenOffice popup window that locks up my entire > KDE session. > > The popup error message is: > " Could not find mine type > application/octet-stream" > maybe this: app-misc/mime-types Latest version available: 5 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 6 kB Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: Provides /etc/mime.types file License: GPL-2 or this: x11-misc/shared-mime-info Latest version available: 0.17-r2 Latest version installed: 0.17-r2 Size of downloaded files: 1,675 kB Homepage:http://www.freedesktop.org/software/shared-mime-info Description: The Shared MIME-info Database specification License: GPL-2 solves your problem? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
On 4/28/06, Teresa and Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Fish wrote: > > > On 4/28/06, Fernando Antunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I've already run memtest86, no problem report. > > > > > > memtest86 is nearly useless on modern computers. > > > > Try this one instead: > > http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html > > > > -Richard > > > > I ran into this with a family member recently, the CPU was running hot > and the mobo was cutting the CPU off. The only way to get it back up > again was to reboot. She kept doing this though, thinking it was > windoze, until the CPU burned out. > > If you are using Gentoo and it does this during a compile, check the CPU > heatsink for dust and make sure the fan is spinning as it should. May > also want to check those temps if you can. Most newer mobos have that. > > It could also be something else getting hot, drive, memory, one of the > chips on the mobo, northbridge comes to mind. > > Don't wait until something burns out to find out what it is. :\ > > Dale > :-) :-) > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > I completely agree with Dale, Pentium 4 is known for heat problems, I have to use cpufreqd and write rules to let the CPU cool down by lowering the frequency while compiling/playing. If you have thermal zone option checked with ACPI in your kernel, it would reboot at around 73C, if not, it would just go up and eventually lock up. Hard drives and memory also heat a lot, check them too. And Thomas, I have a pavilion, it runs flawless for a LONG time now, so, don't say that kinda stuff about it, my notebook have feelings, you know... -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Richard Fish wrote: > On 4/28/06, Fernando Antunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've already run memtest86, no problem report. > > > memtest86 is nearly useless on modern computers. > > Try this one instead: > http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html > > -Richard > I ran into this with a family member recently, the CPU was running hot and the mobo was cutting the CPU off. The only way to get it back up again was to reboot. She kept doing this though, thinking it was windoze, until the CPU burned out. If you are using Gentoo and it does this during a compile, check the CPU heatsink for dust and make sure the fan is spinning as it should. May also want to check those temps if you can. Most newer mobos have that. It could also be something else getting hot, drive, memory, one of the chips on the mobo, northbridge comes to mind. Don't wait until something burns out to find out what it is. :\ Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OpenOffice weirdness
Hello, OpenOffice has worked wonderfully for me for some time now, until just yesterday. I do not use openoffice regularly so I not sure which update caused the problem. On both these versions: 2.0.1-r1 and 2.0.2-r2 I get the same problem: ooffice2 lauches the apps just fine. When I go to save a document as a '.doc' file I get a Sorry-OpenOffice popup window that locks up my entire KDE session. The popup error message is: " Could not find mine type application/octet-stream" I can move the mouse cursor around the screen but everything else is lock up. I have to ssh into the system from a remote machine to recovery the desktop re emerging openoffice, either one of the above versions does not fix the problem. I launch ooffice2 at the command line with: 'ooffice2' I get this error message, twice: 'kdeui (kdelibs): ERROR: No such XML file /dev/null kdeui (kdelibs): ERROR: No such XML file /dev/null' and ooffice2 hangs launch. kde-base/kdelibs: Installed: 3.4.3-r1 3.5.2-r4 When I launch ooffice2 with 'ooffice2 &' it successfully launches and I can create and input data to files. I only have problems when I use 'save' or 'save as'. /dev/null has these permissions: crw-rw 1 root 1, 3 Jan 20 05:05 /dev/null changing permissions to: crw-rw-rw- 1 root 1, 3 Jan 20 05:05 /dev/null does not help. ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why does portage depend on the kernel?
On Friday 28 April 2006 07:40 am, Chris Bare wrote: > Any idea why it wants to install the new kernel too? > > oberon # emerge -puD portage Translation: update and deep > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r2 [1.3.13-r1] > [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 [2.3.5-r3] > [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 Deep means that it does reverse dependency mojo and updates the depends as well (in fact, you should actually be doing it that way). > [ebuild U ] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.10] > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r1 [2.0.54] to get just this: `emerge -u portage` is all you need. > -- > Chris Bare > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris White Gentoo Developer aka: ChrisWhite cpw ChrisWhite|Work WhiteChocolate VanillaWhite Whitey WhiteLight WhiteCheese WhiteSugar WhiteButter WhiteWall WhiteLemon WhiteApple WhiteBlanket WhiteEnergy WhiteWhite -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
On 4/28/06, Fernando Antunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've already run memtest86, no problem report. memtest86 is nearly useless on modern computers. Try this one instead: http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why does portage depend on the kernel?
Chris Bare wrote: > Any idea why it wants to install the new kernel too? Because you are giving the --deep (-D) option to it.. > oberon # emerge -puD portage Instead of this, execute emerge -u portage, this will only update portage.. Hope this helps, Farhan Ahmed -- Place : Bangalore, Karnataka, India GPG Key : 8BE90E98 WengoPhone ID : farhanahmed IRC Nick: farhanahmed / farhanahmed06 (irc.freenode.net) pgp7rHyK5Kng8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why does portage depend on the kernel?
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:40:50AM -0400, Penguin Lover Chris Bare squawked: > oberon # emerge -puD portage > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r2 [1.3.13-r1] > [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 [2.3.5-r3] > [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 > [ebuild U ] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.10] > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r1 [2.0.54] > because you are using --deep if you want to know how the dependency works, do 'emerge -Duptv portage' W -- Love is like 2. It has irrational roots. ~Daniel Jonathan Peng Sortir en Pantoufles: up 167 days, 7:31 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] why does portage depend on the kernel?
Any idea why it wants to install the new kernel too? oberon # emerge -puD portage These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.13-r2 [1.3.13-r1] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 [2.3.5-r3] [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 [ebuild U ] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.10] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r1 [2.0.54] -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Hi, On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:24:19 -0300 "Fernando Antunes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've already run memtest86, no problem report. positive testing of a hypothesis is not a proof of correctness. Negative testing is a proof of its falseness. That said, you can only validate the hypothesis of not working RAM by actually finding errors with memtest, but never prove that it is OK. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
The powersupply may be it then. I don't know whether the logs would tell you that though. I had freezing problems with my old box. I was only able to narrow it down when I got to a point where I could reproduce the problem reliably. In my case the logs were no help, but encoding a file to mp3 would do it. running it through gdb(i think) I saw that a segfault would always happen in a system call related to alocating memory and then the system would feeze right after that. My ram was being reported as having errors in memtest but only in that machine. I inferred it must be the controller. Which I read was incorporated into the chip for that version of Athalon. Long story short... screwed, buy new machine avoid HP pavillions in the future just to be safe. I am by no means an expert but that's how I anrrowed things down. On 4/28/06, Fernando Antunes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've already run memtest86, no problem report. On 4/28/06, Thomas G. Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And probably a portion of the remaining 1% have bad ram or a failing > memory controller. > > On 4/28/06, Jason Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 99% of people with this issue have a cheap, insufficient power supply. > > > > Fernando Antunes wrote: > > > Hi, my Pentium 4 box freeze suddenly sometimes. Reboot is a only solution. > > > I can try to figure out for a especific use or especific application > > > to associate, but no success. > > > I suspect this is a hardware problem or misconfigured driver. > > > > > > Where I find last kernel panic logs after reboot ? > > > What are the first steps to investigate this ? > > > > > > Thanks for any clue ? > > > > > > > > > BOX: > > > Pentium 4 > > > RAM 512 RAM > > > gentoo 2.6-15-gentoo-r1 (olders have the sma problem) > > > xorg-x11 6.8.2-r6 (nv driver on a TNT2 Riva) > > > > > > > > > -- > > The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > -- > Thomas G. Willis > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Thomas G. Willis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Fernando Antunes wrote: I've already run memtest86, no problem report. What about disks? Did you check smart-status? Download some utility (e.g. SeaTools for Seagate disks) and check disks without booting system... BTW, sudden freezing does not look like kernel panic... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
I've already run memtest86, no problem report. On 4/28/06, Thomas G. Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And probably a portion of the remaining 1% have bad ram or a failing memory controller. On 4/28/06, Jason Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 99% of people with this issue have a cheap, insufficient power supply. > > Fernando Antunes wrote: > > Hi, my Pentium 4 box freeze suddenly sometimes. Reboot is a only solution. > > I can try to figure out for a especific use or especific application > > to associate, but no success. > > I suspect this is a hardware problem or misconfigured driver. > > > > Where I find last kernel panic logs after reboot ? > > What are the first steps to investigate this ? > > > > Thanks for any clue ? > > > > > > BOX: > > Pentium 4 > > RAM 512 RAM > > gentoo 2.6-15-gentoo-r1 (olders have the sma problem) > > xorg-x11 6.8.2-r6 (nv driver on a TNT2 Riva) > > > > > -- > The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Thomas G. Willis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
And probably a portion of the remaining 1% have bad ram or a failing memory controller. On 4/28/06, Jason Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 99% of people with this issue have a cheap, insufficient power supply. Fernando Antunes wrote: > Hi, my Pentium 4 box freeze suddenly sometimes. Reboot is a only solution. > I can try to figure out for a especific use or especific application > to associate, but no success. > I suspect this is a hardware problem or misconfigured driver. > > Where I find last kernel panic logs after reboot ? > What are the first steps to investigate this ? > > Thanks for any clue ? > > > BOX: > Pentium 4 > RAM 512 RAM > gentoo 2.6-15-gentoo-r1 (olders have the sma problem) > xorg-x11 6.8.2-r6 (nv driver on a TNT2 Riva) > -- The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Thomas G. Willis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
99% of people with this issue have a cheap, insufficient power supply. Fernando Antunes wrote: > Hi, my Pentium 4 box freeze suddenly sometimes. Reboot is a only solution. > I can try to figure out for a especific use or especific application > to associate, but no success. > I suspect this is a hardware problem or misconfigured driver. > > Where I find last kernel panic logs after reboot ? > What are the first steps to investigate this ? > > Thanks for any clue ? > > > BOX: > Pentium 4 > RAM 512 RAM > gentoo 2.6-15-gentoo-r1 (olders have the sma problem) > xorg-x11 6.8.2-r6 (nv driver on a TNT2 Riva) > -- The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use to the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Hi, my Pentium 4 box freeze suddenly sometimes. Reboot is a only solution. I can try to figure out for a especific use or especific application to associate, but no success. I suspect this is a hardware problem or misconfigured driver. Where I find last kernel panic logs after reboot ? What are the first steps to investigate this ? Thanks for any clue ? BOX: Pentium 4 RAM 512 RAM gentoo 2.6-15-gentoo-r1 (olders have the sma problem) xorg-x11 6.8.2-r6 (nv driver on a TNT2 Riva) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3
Iain Buchanan a gentiment tapote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:00 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote: > >> I don't say you have to but if I were you I would: >> - - update the xorg to 7.X >> - - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel >> - - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel >> > > can you specify what kernel version you're using, and what the config > file names are for these two kernel options? > > >> - - configure xorg to use the "radeon"-driver (This is not just changing >> one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because the >> different drivers use different parameters) >> > > I thought I'd try your suggestion, since I already have modular xorg, > and I'm getting fed-up with constantly-locking-up-ati-drivers. > > Also, what options do you have set in your xorg.conf file? Maybe even > post your whole radeon "Device" section, if its small :) > > that would help me out a bit, I think. > > so far, I don't have dri (the Load "dri" command in xorg.conf locks up > my laptop) > > thanks, > Hi, Well, It's me again, I was satisfied too quickly ! After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully, gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic). I really don't know what to do now :-( Any idea ? Thanks a lot, --- Jacques -- ^ ^^^ ^ ( 0 0 ) \/ ---- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Packages CD image
Joseph Kulisics wrote: > Hi, > > I looked at the torrents page before---http://torrents.gentoo.org/---but > the only package files are for architectures other than x86. If I could > find the CD image, then I know how to use emerge to refer to the CDROM for > package installation; I just can't find a CD image anywhere. Is there a > link on the page that I missed, or is the package CD rolled into one of > the other disks like the livecd? Thanks, > > Joseph Kulisics There isn't a package cd for x86. You will have to use i686 or make your own packages on a faster machine. -Jeremy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnupg (probably) FAQs
On 28/04/06, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 27. April 2006 19:24 schrieb ext Matthias Bethke: > > > Hi Mick, > > on Sunday, 2006-04-16 at 19:48:00, you wrote: > > > 2. How can I get the gpg-agent to start if I do not use KDM, but XDM > > > with fluxbox? (I added eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" in my ~/.xsession > > > with no effect). > > emerge keychain and x11-ssh-askpass, then add the following to > your .bash_profile: > > # Which frontend to use for ssh-askpass > export SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/x11-ssh-askpass > > # SSH and GPG key management > keychain --ignore-missing id_rsa id_dsa C2E467BB > [[ -f $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh ]] && source $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh > [[ -f $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh-gpg ]] && source > $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh-gpg > > HTH... Thanks for all the answers guys! I eventually managed to get the gpg-agent loading automatically by adding eval "$(gpg-agent --daemon)" in my /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox If my understanding is correct the X110ssh-askpass package will transaparently manage both ssh & gpg-agent passphrases - am I right? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRI, GLX, Savage and Xorg7
On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, I upgraded to Xorg 7 using the "modular Xorg" howto on the > > gentoo-wiki [...] > > So its looking good (definatly better then before). DRI is enabled, but I > > am getting a hard PC lockup (for about a second, with glxinfo saying > > "wait event returned -16"). > > > > Also happens when trying to run glxgears. I get a lockup for a few > > seconds, followed by the same error "wait event returned -16" > > Could you give us some output of "strace glxinfo"? It would be quite good > to know what "wait event" it is. ok, here are the last few lines of glxinfo from strace: write(1, "OpenGL extensions:\n", 19OpenGL extensions: )= 19 write(1, "GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multi"..., 62GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, ) = 62 write(1, "GL_ARB_texture_compression, "..., 57 GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, ) = 57 write(1, "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repe"..., 62 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, ) = 62 write(1, "GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_ab"..., 70GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, ) = 70 write(1, "GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_"..., 74GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, ) = 74 write(1, "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array"..., 76 GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, GL_EXT_copy_texture, ) = 76 write(1, "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, "..., 73 GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, ) = 73 write(1, "GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EX"..., 75GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, ) = 75 write(1, "GL_EXT_separate_specular_col"..., 77 GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, ) = 77 write(1, "GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_textu"..., 66GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, ) = 66 write(1, "GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_E"..., 77GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, ) = 77 write(1, "GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPL"..., 73GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, ) = 73 write(1, "GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repe"..., 57 GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_MESA_window_pos, ) = 57 write(1, "GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL"..., 76 GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_OES_read_format, ) = 76 write(1, "GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_"..., 74GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, ) = 74 write(1, "GL_SGIS_texture_lod\n", 24GL_SGIS_texture_lod ) = 24 write(1, "glu version: 1.3\n", 17glu version: 1.3 ) = 17 write(1, "glu extensions:\n", 16glu extensions: ) = 16 write(1, "GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, G"..., 57 GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess ) = 57 ioctl(4, 0x4008642a, 0xbfbbc070)= 0 ioctl(4, 0xc0086442 +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ Process 6832 detached Hope its of use =) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No dri with xorg-x11-7 and ati card (solved)
Richard Fish a gentiment tapote: > On 4/27/06, Ptitjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> eselect opengl set ati >> > > >> Ati Radeon as module >> >> Driver "radeon" >> > > Are you trying to use the open-source driver and (new) DRI module in > the kerrnel, or the ATI opengl implementation? Because right now you > are mixing the ATI and the opensource stuff together. > > For the ATI implementation: > > - eselect opengl set ati > - emerge ati-drivers > - Change the xorg.conf driver to "fglrx". > > For the opensource implementation: > - eselect opengl set xorg-x11 > - verify that your card is supported by checking the PCI ids (lspci > -n) against /usr/src/linux/char/drm/drm_pciids.h. > > -Richard > > Hi all, I re-compiled my 2.6.16 kernel Options /dev/agpgart as module I disactived Direct Rendering Manager and Ati Radeon kernel support I emerged ati-drivers-8.23.7 then xorg.conf : driver fglrx Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" Now, dri works fine : 1431.877 FPS instead of 75 FPS !!! Conclusion : My ati radeon 9600 graphic card (RV350) is not supported by ati kernel and xorg drivers. Only proprietary ati drivers can set dri for my card. Two small problems however : startx does not work (gdm does !) Stellarium and Celestia segfault. Well, I have again some work to do ! Thanks to all of you for having helped me :-) --- Jacques -- ^ ^^^ ^ ( 0 0 ) \/ ---- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Packages CD image
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph Kulisics wrote: > Hi, > > I looked at the torrents page before---http://torrents.gentoo.org/---but > the only package files are for architectures other than x86. If I could > find the CD image, then I know how to use emerge to refer to the CDROM for > package installation; I just can't find a CD image anywhere. Is there a > link on the page that I missed, or is the package CD rolled into one of > the other disks like the livecd? Thanks, > > Joseph Kulisics > > _ > > For the judgement of mankind is as relentless to the weakness that falls > short of a recognized renown, as it is jealous of the arrogance that > aspires higher than its due. > > Pericles as quoted by Thucydides, > Book II of his history of the Peloponnesian War > > > HOME PAGE URL:http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~kulisics/ > > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Rumen Yotov wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:21:46 +0300 >> From: Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Packages CD image >> > Joseph Kulisics wrote: Hi, I'm trying to prepare a very old system for use in a laboratory, and while I normally do the source installation, the initial parts of the installation of this old system were so slow that I don't think a source installation is practical. I would like to use binary packages for installation, but I cannot find an image of aa cdrom for x86 precompiled packages. Does anyone know where you can download an image of preceompiled x86 packages or how you can tell emerge to look for precompiled packages on the web? Thank you, Joseph Kulisics _ For the judgement of mankind is as relentless to the weakness that falls short of a recognized renown, as it is jealous of the arrogance that aspires higher than its due. Pericles as quoted by Thucydides, Book II of his history of the Peloponnesian War HOME PAGE URL: http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~kulisics/ > Hi, > Check the torrents for 2006.0, IIRC there's such CD. > Next follow the guide. > HTH.Rumen - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> Hi, Can't find anything, too. As last resort, if your "arch" is at at least "i686" you could use the liveCD-2006.0 directly (to install) or start it and using "quickpkg" make your own binary packages. Save them elsewhere, and use later. If arch < i686 can't help. BTW: check for "Kuroraa-0.2" or better "RR4-3.0b", the second is a half full DVD with many packages (may be even too many ;) - Gentoo derivates. HTH.Rumen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEUceDNbtuTtsWD3wRAvjgAJ9wpFwfBg6aaTq6HTQBKowUxmyHKQCeJLFW q666u+LlTVRjldL9cXb4ecs= =+Opo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list