[gentoo-user] Network device name changes every reboot
Hello, I'm running Gentoo x86/2006.1 inside a User-Mode Linux disk image, created according to the instructions at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_User_Mode_Linux, with kernel 2.6.20.7 from kernel.org. The first time I booted my UML system, networking worked properly. The next time, net.eth0 failed to start. Further investigation revealed that /sys/class/net/eth0 didn't exist (despite entries in dmesg indicating that it was being created). However, /sys/class/net/eth1 *did* exist, despite me not having specified a configuration for eth1 on the UML command line. I was able to successfully configure eth1 and communicate with other hosts through it. The next time I rebooted, eth1 had dissappeared, but there was now an eth2. dmesg still contained references to /sys/class/net/eth0, but nothing about eth2. The next time, I got eth3. And so on. I rebuilt my UML image from scratch, and got eth0 again on the first boot, but the device number kept incrementing on further reboots. I rebuilt the kernel with a few different options, but that didn't affect the numbering. I'm at eth12 now. I have an older UML image based on kernel 2.6.16.16 and Gentoo 2006.0 from last June or so; it doesn't display this behaviour. I've double-checked that all UML-related processes have shut down completely between reboots, and have deleted and re-created the tun/tap device on the host system to ensure that the issue isn't with the host operating system. The UML command line didn't change between boots. Since the problem is persistent across UML reboots, and changing the kernel didn't help, I'm convinced that the issue lies with the Gentoo operating system in the UML image. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the problem is. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rennie deGraaf
Re: [gentoo-user] 2007.0's profile?
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:04:21AM +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 15. April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Today after I run emerge --sync, I find that the 2007.0's profile is added, so what should I do with it? nothing is that ln -s 2007.0's profile to /etc/make.profile then emerge -avuDN world just OK? If not, what should I need to do? yes, it should be ok. If 2007 is stable. Just wait some time - at least until 2007.0 is officially released. You don't need to switch at the moment or in the next couple of month. Just wait and watch the others suffer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Thank you all, when I saw your replies, I have change my make.profile to 2007.0, oh my god, bless nothing but everything just ok... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
Neil Walker wrote: Norberto Bensa wrote: Oh! My firewall's 8GB HD died three days ago Actually, you might want to have a look at Redwall which is a Gentoo-based firewall distro that can run from CD.;) Thanks!! I was thinking about doing a live-cd/usb for the firewall :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?
Norberto Bensa wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware. ... We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP. Just get any old version (that works), That's the point. None works. The media needs kernel 2.6.18 or better. I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point. Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making. If I understand correctly, he needs a newer release so that when he boots the CD to do a install, it will see his hardware. It would appear that the 2006 series is not seeing some hardware, whatever that is, and he needs a newer version to get it to see his hardware to do the install. I don't think he is talking about after the install but trying to start the install while booted from the CD. OP, am I getting this right? That's the way I took it anyway. Gosh it is hard to explain in print. No wonder it takes so long to write a book. ;-) Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?
Norberto Bensa wrote: Just get any old version (that works), That's the point. None works. The media needs kernel 2.6.18 or better. I had the similar experience: tried to install 2006.1 on new mobo, but sata controller could not be recognised (some via chpiset iirc). Had to buy extra some p-ata drive, install gentoo on it, update kernel, then sata-drive got recognised, chroot to new sata-drive, and finally install gentoo on it once again. Tedious work... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:07:35 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the average age of the gentoo user here? Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone [Error decoding BASE64] I'm 16. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Profile USE flags
I have just looked at the 2007.0 profile and have seen that extra USE flags have been added. Is there any source of information on the reasoning behind USE flags being added to and removed from profiles? Knowing the reasons for specific flags being added or removed from the profile would help make an informed decision as to whether to edit /etc/make.conf and add '-flagname' for features which have been added but I do not think I need (or want) and add 'flagname' for those which have been removed but I think I still want. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Profile USE flags
Graham Murray wrote: I have just looked at the 2007.0 profile and have seen that extra USE flags have been added. Is there any source of information on the reasoning behind USE flags being added to and removed from profiles? Knowing the reasons for specific flags being added or removed from the profile would help make an informed decision as to whether to edit /etc/make.conf and add '-flagname' for features which have been added but I do not think I need (or want) and add 'flagname' for those which have been removed but I think I still want. Well, if you want to know what a USE flag is for, you can try euse. It works like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # euse -i gimp global use flags (searching: gimp) no matching entries found local use flags (searching: gimp) [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/dcraw): Builds rawphoto plugin for the GIMP [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/gtkam): GIMP plugin from gtkam [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/iscan): Build a plugin for the GIMP [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/sane-frontends): Build a plugin for the GIMP [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/ufraw): Build a plugin for the GIMP [+ C ] gimp (media-gfx/xsane): Build a plugin for the GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # man euse for more info. It is part of gentoolkit if you need to install it. I hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?
Hello Thomas T. Veldhouse, a) gentoo is not about releases. I understand that. BUT ... it was announced long ago that there was a quarterly release plan starting in 2005. It was followed for only one year? That's right. It was quickly discovered that forcing a quarterly release schedule on releng was impractical, so they switched to bi-annual releases from 2006. 2007.0 was originally scheduled for release in February, but the profile has only just hit the portage tree. The actual release should not be too far off now. Aside from the new hardware situation, there is another reason for release, especially on schedule ones, publicity. Magazines like to include new releases on their cover discs and want to carry reviews of new releases (not betas). I was asked to review 2007.0 three months ago, based on the original release schedule, I'm still waiting to do so. That is lost positive publicity for Gentoo, at a time when it is getting plenty of publicity and precious little of it positive. -- Neil Bothwick Don't put all your hypes in one home page. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network device name changes every reboot
Hello Rennie deGraaf, I'm running Gentoo x86/2006.1 inside a User-Mode Linux disk image, created according to the instructions at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_User_Mode_Linux, with kernel 2.6.20.7 from kernel.org. The first time I booted my UML system, networking worked properly. The next time, net.eth0 failed to start. Further investigation revealed that /sys/class/net/eth0 didn't exist (despite entries in dmesg indicating that it was being created). However, /sys/class/net/eth1 *did* exist, despite me not having specified a configuration for eth1 on the UML command line. I was able to successfully configure eth1 and communicate with other hosts through it. I suspect that UML is assigning a different MAC address to your virtual network interface each time it starts up. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ensures that each interface gets the same address on each boot, so you either need to ensure that UML uses the same MAC each time, or remove this file in /etc/conf.d/local.stop. -- Neil Bothwick Do PAL taglines take up two scanlines? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Profile USE flags
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Murray wrote: I have just looked at the 2007.0 profile and have seen that extra USE flags have been added. Is there any source of information on the reasoning behind USE flags being added to and removed from profiles? Knowing the reasons for specific flags being added or removed from the profile would help make an informed decision as to whether to edit /etc/make.conf and add '-flagname' for features which have been added but I do not think I need (or want) and add 'flagname' for those which have been removed but I think I still want. Well, if you want to know what a USE flag is for, you can try euse. It works like this: I know how euse works (and do use it). What I am more interested in is why the profile maintainers decided that an existing (for example 'kerberos') flag should now be enabled by default in x86/2007.0/desktop when it was not enabled in previous profiles. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Marc Blumentritt ha scritto: Then create a tarball from it. You could call this tarball a stage4 tarball, because it is a complete system (compared to a stage3 tarball). To create the tarball, leave the chroot an run something like this: tar -cjvpf /stage4.tar.bz2 /path/to/your/chroot Boot your old machine with a gentoo live cd and create partitions (follow the gentoo handbook to chapter 4) and copy your tarball to it. After unpacking the tarball, your system is nearly finished. All you need to do is to install grub (or your personal choice of bootloader) and that's it. Thanks a lot, that's more or less what I thought to do. I hoped for some integrated solution that attached some kind of nice installer, but no problem. For this method you do not need a special install medium. But you have to find a way to copy the tarball to your system. Possible options are scp or on cd (in this case you need a second drive or boot your cd with the option to load the whole image to memory (I d'ont remember the name for it), but since you said you have an old machine, the memory will be small...). Yes, this is quite boring, since I wouldn't like to rely on network/double drive. Wouldn't it be possible to use a multisession cd/dvd with the gentoo cd in the first session and the tarball in the second (or editing the gentoo cd ISO)? m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Profile USE flags
Hello Graham Murray, I know how euse works (and do use it). What I am more interested in is why the profile maintainers decided that an existing (for example 'kerberos') flag should now be enabled by default in x86/2007.0/desktop when it was not enabled in previous profiles. There are Changelogs in the profile directories, but these tend to show what was changed more than why it was changed. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 28: Butt Head signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2007.0's profile?
Its not the profile, but a new liveCD I would like to see. Its a pita to have to use a fedora or other up-to-date liveCD because gentoo's wont handle the newer hardware (Two Dells, last one a 745) BillK On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 07:04 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 15. April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Today after I run emerge --sync, I find that the 2007.0's profile is added, so what should I do with it? nothing is that ln -s 2007.0's profile to /etc/make.profile then emerge -avuDN world just OK? If not, what should I need to do? yes, it should be ok. If 2007 is stable. Just wait some time - at least until 2007.0 is officially released. You don't need to switch at the moment or in the next couple of month. Just wait and watch the others suffer -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Profile USE flags
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:54:34 +0100 Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know how euse works (and do use it). What I am more interested in is why the profile maintainers decided that an existing (for example 'kerberos') flag should now be enabled by default in x86/2007.0/desktop when it was not enabled in previous profiles. There is also a quick dirty trick to ignore such kind of changes: put in your /etc/make.conf all the USE flags you want enabled and prefix them with -*. For example: USE=-* amd64 3dnow X a52 aac acl acpi alsa apm audiofile bash-completion \ bcmath bonobo bzip2 calendar caps cdparanoia cdr clamav \ bla-h-blah blah -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
On Sunday 15 April 2007 14:36:16 b.n. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Notice the sharp drop after 27 years of age and the second irregular distribution around 43-45. I wait for interpretations. I'm going to raise the 20th amplitude even more: eliasp ~ # genlop -c * life-base/age-22 current merge time: 8 months, 1 day, 9 hours ETA: 3 months, 30 days, 3 hours Version 13-16 was running on Corel 1.0, SuSE 5.2 - 7.3 Version 16.5-17 on Debian Since Version 17 it is running rockstable on Gentoo Regards, Elias P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?
El Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:37:54 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Norberto Bensa wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point. Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making. If I understand correctly, he needs a newer release so that when he boots the CD to do a install, it will see his hardware. It would appear that the 2006 series is not seeing some hardware, whatever that is, and he needs a newer version to get it to see his hardware to do the install. I don't think he is talking about after the install but trying to start the install while booted from the CD. Now I understand it and I think it is a fair point, still, I wouldn't worry at all about that because, even being besides the point, I can use an alternative cd to boot. I am sure that if the 2007.0 releases hasn't happened yet, it is just because there are more important things to work on. --Jesús Guerrero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xen Doc compilation failed = latex2html pb
Hi, I emerged app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4 on my gentoo box but the compilation failed with the DOC use flag : [...] make: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' latex src/user.tex /dev/null latex src/interface.tex /dev/null make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' install -d -m0755 html/user latex2html -split 0 -show_section_numbers -toc_depth 3 -nonavigation \ -numbered_footnotes -local_icons -noinfo -math -dir html/user \ src/user.tex 1/dev/null 2/dev/null if [ -e user.toc ] ; then latex src/user.tex /dev/null ; fi if [ -e interface.toc ] ; then latex src/interface.tex /dev/null ; fi make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' install -d -m0755 man1 install -d -m0755 ps dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o ps/user.ps.new user.dvi pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man1/xm.1 | sed 's/^man1.//'| \ sed 's/.1//'` -s 1 -c Xen man/xm.pod.1 man1/xm.1 This is dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) ' TeX output 2007.04.15:1612' - ps/user.ps.new tex.proalt-rule.pro8r.enctexps.prospecial.pro. cmsy8.pfb cmsy10.pfbcmmi10.pfb[1figs/xenlogo.eps] [2] [1] [2] [3] [4] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] [62] mv ps/user.ps.new ps/user.ps install -d -m0755 ps dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o ps/interface.ps.new interface.dvi This is dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) ' TeX output 2007.04.15:1612' - ps/interface.ps.new tex.proalt-rule.pro8r.enctexps.prospecial.pro. cmmi10.pfb cmsy10.pfb[1figs/xenlogo.eps] [2] [1] [2] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] mv ps/interface.ps.new ps/interface.ps install -d -m0755 pdf ps2pdf ps/user.ps pdf/user.pdf.new install -d -m0755 man5 pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man5/xend-config.sxp.5 | sed 's/^man5.//'| \ sed 's/.5//'` -s 5 -c Xen man/xend-config.sxp.pod.5 man5/xend-config.sxp.5 install -d -m0755 man5 pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man5/xmdomain.cfg.5 | sed 's/^man5.//'| \ sed 's/.5//'` -s 5 -c Xen man/xmdomain.cfg.pod.5 man5/xmdomain.cfg.5 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' install -d -m0755 pdf ps2pdf ps/interface.ps pdf/interface.pdf.new mv pdf/user.pdf.new pdf/user.pdf install -d -m0755 html/interface latex2html -split 0 -show_section_numbers -toc_depth 3 -nonavigation \ -numbered_footnotes -local_icons -noinfo -math -dir html/interface \ src/interface.tex 1/dev/null 2/dev/null mv pdf/interface.pdf.new pdf/interface.pdf make[1]: *** [html/user/index.html] Error 2 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[1]: *** [html/interface/index.html] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' make: *** [html] Error 2 rm user.dvi interface.dvi make: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' !!! ERROR: app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile' environment, line 3633: Called src_compile xen-tools-3.0.2-r4.ebuild, line 147: Called die !!! compiling docs failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. !!! A complete build log is located at '/root/ebuild-logs/app-emulation:xen-tools-3.0.2-r4:20070415-141126.log'. So I did a manual make html without 1 and 2 /dev/nul: Everything was fine until the build of images: [...] 94/95:section:...B.2 Installing vnet support for user.html ;.,.,..,,.,.;. 95/95:chapter:..C. Glossary of Terms for user.html ;.,; . Doing footnotes ... Writing image file ... Fatal (syswait): exec ./images.tex failed: Permission denied at /usr/lib/latex2html/latex2html.pl line 3760 Cannot read logfile './images.log': No such file or directory Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/latex2html line 39. make[1]: *** [html/user/index.html] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs' make: *** [html] Error 2 Here is the line 3760: sub make_latex_images{ close_dbm_database if $DJGPP; local($dd) = $dd; $dd = '/' if ($dd eq \\); local($latex_call) = $LATEX .$dd${PREFIX}images.tex; print $latex_call\n if (($DEBUG)||($VERBOSITY 1)); L2hos-syswait($latex_call); = 3760
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious
Tony Stohne wrote: hehe, there are some experienced guys ( gals?) on the list. I'm 44... I'm also 44, have been using Unix since 1981 and still have my hardback book on the PDP 11/70 and my KR C book from then. I remember being told not to run 'vi' when too many people were on because it would slow the machine down. :-) (Bad info it seems, but funny now.) My first pc unix was in 1991 and I forget if it was BSDFree or FreeBSD. X11 dist was X386. I'm pretty sure the OS was version 0.1. I remember loading floppy after floppy after floppy to get the os on, then it took a long time for X to start up with the disk grinding away. I also remember earlier days as a teen never being able to convince my parents to spring for the $500 TRS-80 or Heathkit... :-) Mike -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of [EMAIL PROTECTED] issue 1150 (62678-62727)
unsubricde - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Digest of [EMAIL PROTECTED] issue 1150 (62678-62727) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT im more just curious
Mike Markowski wrote: Tony Stohne wrote: hehe, there are some experienced guys ( gals?) on the list. I'm 44... I'm also 44, have been using Unix since 1981 and still have my hardback book on the PDP 11/70 and my KR C book from then. I remember being told not to run 'vi' when too many people were on because it would slow the machine down. :-) (Bad info it seems, but funny now.) My first pc unix was in 1991 and I forget if it was BSDFree or FreeBSD. X11 dist was X386. I'm pretty sure the OS was version 0.1. I remember loading floppy after floppy after floppy to get the os on, then it took a long time for X to start up with the disk grinding away. I also remember earlier days as a teen never being able to convince my parents to spring for the $500 TRS-80 or Heathkit... :-) I remember the TRS-80! I also was brought up on the CBM or Commodore PET (green screen with cassette tape drive). I started programming in early 1983 using BASIC on the Commodore PET. Same CPU as the Apple IIe (and Apple IIc). The release of the Commodore 64 was a God send, with my first real option to write graphics and sound code along with eventually writing my own assembler because I couldn't afford to buy one ;-) 64KB was SO MUCH MEMORY back then! Oh yes, I am 35 years old. Tom Veldhouse
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
Elias Probst wrote: I'm going to raise the 20th amplitude even more: age-22 Well, I'll do my bit to restore the balance. ;) I'm 56. Been around computers since 1969 and my first home system was a self-build based on a DEC LSI 11/23 processor running RT11. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop sometimes needs double keystrokes
Hi Benno, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But you don't need to do this as you've already found that the problem is in bash and it's related to something in the environment. If the PS1 didn't fix it, try with either just --norc or just --noprofile to try and narrow things down further. Using the techinique you suggested above I was able to track down the problem to a script in /etc/profile.d that I was using to start dbus-session-daemon on login. Removing that file fixed the problem. Many thanks for your help, Roger -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
I'm 60. Gentoo since November 2005. I was first exposed to the *nix concept through the DOS compiled Unix utilities produced by the FSF in about 1992 or 3. Once I returned to civilization from a remote Pacific island, where I was using the *nix text tools for a lexicon project, I had to have Linux, of which I had learned by following the FSF News Bull. Started on Slackware. After about two years, I moved to Debian. A few years later, I started using Knoppix to install and ran Debian. I started using Gentoo as a self-torture exercize, to cure myself of fear of configuration. I have looked at Ubuntu and MEPIX in the meanwhile, even running them when I need a quick install. I have never seriously looked back from Gentoo, however. I'm not from a computer background, which seems somewhat unique among respondents. Rather, I have been using GNU/Linux to enable my work, education, science, publishing w/ TeX/LaTeX, making tide calendars. I owe a huge debt to the developers. I would like to pay it back, perhaps working on Documentation; perhaps I am too scatterbrained and although I have taken a basic course in Computer Architecture, programmed in Elisp, and taken a course in Mathematical FORTRAN, I feel somewhat ovewhelmed by the nits. Alan -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it. Richard Stallman Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. - Thomas H. Huxley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?
Jesús Guerrero wrote: El Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:37:54 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Norberto Bensa wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point. Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making. If I understand correctly, he needs a newer release so that when he boots the CD to do a install, it will see his hardware. It would appear that the 2006 series is not seeing some hardware, whatever that is, and he needs a newer version to get it to see his hardware to do the install. I don't think he is talking about after the install but trying to start the install while booted from the CD. Now I understand it and I think it is a fair point, still, I wouldn't worry at all about that because, even being besides the point, I can use an alternative cd to boot. I am sure that if the 2007.0 releases hasn't happened yet, it is just because there are more important things to work on. --Jesús Guerrero But as someone else just posted, he has two computers, one being a Dell, that will not boot the 2006 CD so it is a really good point. Booting Knopix or something to install Gentoo may not be difficult if you only have one CD drive. So, having a up to date install CD is really a good idea. How are people going to install if they can't get stuff to work so they can? I know they are busy, and of late is not being involved in a flame fest either, but it is something that has to be done nevertheless. I see the point pretty clear, from both sides. I'm sure they don't want to rush a release and have serious problems with it but at the same time, people are coming up with new hardware and people need them to work so they can install Gentoo. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part.
[gentoo-user] How to get rid of traces of overlays?
Hi. I had installed layman and a couple of overlays and after I deleted them using layman -d portage still thinks they are there. I did emerge --regen but still no luck. The make.conf within layman no longer has them, but where is the information still retained? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] unreadable text in tty's after updating to 2.6.19-r5
Hi list. I've a strange problem here. I've updated my gentoo from a 4 months offline and so I did recompile many stuffs. However, when I update the kernel from 2.6.18-r2 to 2.6.19-r5, my tty's console (ALT + CTRL + Fx) are all unreadable. I can see like in an encrypted tv channel, but i can launch commands, it's just visual. I did not change anything between my two kernels : I've check the same thing in the 2.6.19 than in the 2.6.18... I've tried to emerge again : kbd, kdm, but nothing. I'm sure of one thing : if I delete xdm from the defaults boot level, I can log in normally, everything is fine. If I type 'startx', I get my KDE, but all the tty's are now unreadable... Did somebody has an idea ? thx for help.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of traces of overlays?
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, John covici wrote: Hi. I had installed layman and a couple of overlays and after I deleted them using layman -d portage still thinks they are there. I did emerge --regen but still no luck. The make.conf within layman no longer has them, but where is the information still retained? If you mean by portage still thinks stuff from gentoolkit like equery then you should do eupdatedb I believe. Regards, Rostislav. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the average age of the gentoo user here? Sent via BlackBerry� from Vodafone z���(��j)b� bst== I wasn't going to respond. But it's my birthday today - 2^5 = 32 baby! (Using gentoo since 2004.3) W. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of traces of overlays?
On Monday 16 April 2007 00:44:57 Rostislav wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, John covici wrote: Hi. I had installed layman and a couple of overlays and after I deleted them using layman -d portage still thinks they are there. I did emerge --regen but still no luck. The make.conf within layman no longer has them, but where is the information still retained? Would be much easier to answer if you told us why you think it's still there. And `emerge --regen` really wasn't needed (not that it did any damage either). If you mean by portage still thinks stuff from gentoolkit like equery then you should do eupdatedb I believe. No, that's for esearch not equery. And update-eix for eix.. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of traces of overlays?
on Monday 04/16/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote On Monday 16 April 2007 00:44:57 Rostislav wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, John covici wrote: Hi. I had installed layman and a couple of overlays and after I deleted them using layman -d portage still thinks they are there. I did emerge --regen but still no luck. The make.conf within layman no longer has them, but where is the information still retained? Would be much easier to answer if you told us why you think it's still there. And `emerge --regen` really wasn't needed (not that it did any damage either). If you mean by portage still thinks stuff from gentoolkit like equery then you should do eupdatedb I believe. No, that's for esearch not equery. And update-eix for eix.. Well, what I mean by portage thinks is that its still looking for updates from the ebuilds in the no longer available overlays -- if I do emerge --update --deep world I get ebuilds from the overlays and at the end it has the [1] indicating the overlay directory. Very strange. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] floppy flops: further tests
Thanks to all whom offered advice re using file managers with diskettes. I changed the line in /etc/fstab to '/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,user,umask=000 0 0'. The results were the same: Krusader insisted on being root to do anything; Thunar copied deleted a file ok was a bit faster than before; Dolphin copied deleted, but refused to update the file list, which is probably a bug given the beta status of Dolphin. I also tested formatting a diskette as ext2 via 'mkfs /dev/fd0'. This worked the file managers had very fast responses, but I couldn't unmount the device, which the system insisted was busy: it was enough to exit X become root, when it unmounted at once. It also created some unintended dirs on the diskette (possibly there's a format option to avoid that: I haven't checked). So my conclusion is that -- as often with Linux Gentoo -- the old way is best for real-life purposes nothing beats Mtools on CLI. Thunar -- the work of Xfce's Thor character (smile) -- performs adequately, but Krusader is intended for weightier tasks Dolphin is still immature. Further comments are welcome. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
On 11:24 Mon 16 Apr , Will Briggs wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the average age of the gentoo user here? Sent via BlackBerry� from Vodafone z���(��j)b� bst== I wasn't going to respond. But it's my birthday today - 2^5 = 32 baby! (Using gentoo since 2004.3) Happy birthday :-) -- Besides, I think Slackware sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you? -- Patrick Volkerding -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list