Re: [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
Am Montag, 3. September 2007 schrieb ext Walter Dnes: > This setup is for a desktop PC that has "a user" not "a bunch of > users". I am *NOT* running a server with a bunch of users. If I was, > I'd be using quotas to prevent the problem described above. To solve a problem that you otherwise wouldn't have? > > Another one is filesystem corruption, or even human error. Placing > > everything into one single filesystem is a Bad Thing (tm). I.e. you > > can't mount vital parts of the system ro to prevent accidental > > deletion, or keep data or home volumes safely unmounted until they > > are really needed/accessed (by use of the automounter), > > a) I'm running a home desktop PC, not a corporate server. If the > "users" (i.e. me) can't co-ordinate with each other, then I've > got a badly split personality You didn't tell before. > b) I have the system backed up on a 320 gig external USB drive And if your single big partition breaks, you waste a lot of time restoring everything. > c) "automount" problems seem to crop up often in this list Which ones, with which automounter? I've never seen any with the kernel automounter. OTOH, what isn't mounted can't be corrupted/deleted. > d) more partitions means more things to go wrong Which ones? Limiting possible damage can't ever be wrong. > > you can't use different filesystems for different purposes, etc. > > You mean like ext2fs for a small rarely-written-to partition and > reiserfs for a gigantic partition with lots of files? No. As Neil already wrote: The various Linux filesystems shine in different use cases (XFS has good large file performance, reiserfs is storage effective when it comes to small files while its delete performance is poor, etc.). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] about permission setting for /var/tmp/portage/../work
On (03/09/07 14:28) William Xu wrote: > Hi, why the `work' subdir under /var/tmp/.. has this sort of permission > setting: > > , > | drwx-- 3 portage portage 80 Sep 3 10:43 work > ` > > This way, it seems rather difficult for a non-root user to access > them. Currently I'm trying to debug emacs, which requires me to start > emacs executable from that directory. > > How to solve this problem? (even sudo doesn't seems to help here?) > > -- > William > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > Hi, May be because this directory is meant to be used by portage only. IMHO that is so because of FEATURES="... userpriv ..." (please check the syntax). Same must be valid for /usr/portage/distfiles (FAETURES= " ... parallel-fetch userpriv usersandbox...") Why you need user access to this work-dir. HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] about permission setting for /var/tmp/portage/../work
Hi, why the `work' subdir under /var/tmp/.. has this sort of permission setting: , | drwx-- 3 portage portage 80 Sep 3 10:43 work ` This way, it seems rather difficult for a non-root user to access them. Currently I'm trying to debug emacs, which requires me to start emacs executable from that directory. How to solve this problem? (even sudo doesn't seems to help here?) -- William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HAL: how to prohibit mounting certain partitions
On 9/1/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have windows & Linux installed on the same hard disk. > > In Linux I've set up KDE + hal. It allows users to mount any removable > > devices, and also windows partition. > > I don't wanna to disable ntfs in kernel, but I don't want to users be > able > > to mount windows partition (that's a security issue). > > So, how can I prohibit hal to mount /dev/sda*? > > Try entering the respective partition in /etc/fstab as noauto and > mountable > only by e.g. root, or a suitable group id. > > Hope this helps. Yeah, thanks a lot. It's simple but it works. :) -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati-drivers
On 9/2/07, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht gmail.com> writes: > > > > You need to discover with lspci what ATI controller is in the machine > > and then check which ati-drivers packages support it. After doing that > > you need to make sure that the ati-drivers package you have chosen > > matches up with the kernel you are attempting to build/install. > > Well, I think you are on to something: on the dell lspci shows: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7910 > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7912 > 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7915 > 00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7917 > 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA > 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) > 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) > 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) > 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) > 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) > 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) > 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 SMBus (rev 14) > > > googling produces this: > Dell Inspiron 1721 is based on AMD ATI M690T chipset, Turion 64 X2 dual core > processors with speeds from 1.8GHz to 2.2GHz, and ATI Mobility Radeon X1270 > integrated graphics. > > > so How/where do I read which chipsets are covered by which drivers? > I would personally visit the Phoronix forums, sign up and ask the question there. Most likely a very helpful individual named Michael will be able to tell you more about which driver revision, if any, works with that Radeon. Maybe a helpful Gentoo person can answer the question sooner but it doesn't hurt to have a second opinion. He's very ATI knowledgeable and don't have a strong ati-driver anti-bias like we run into here some times. On the other hand, why do you need the ati-driver package at all. Have you considered just using the radeon driver in the kernel until you get this machine up and running and then deal with this driver issue later? That's my usual path to making a new ATI machine useful as quickly as possible. I run ati-drivers on some machine but prefer to stick with the kernel driver when I Can. Good luck whatever you do, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: ati-drivers
Mark Knecht gmail.com> writes: > You need to discover with lspci what ATI controller is in the machine > and then check which ati-drivers packages support it. After doing that > you need to make sure that the ati-drivers package you have chosen > matches up with the kernel you are attempting to build/install. Well, I think you are on to something: on the dell lspci shows: 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7910 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7912 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7915 00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7917 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 SMBus (rev 14) googling produces this: Dell Inspiron 1721 is based on AMD ATI M690T chipset, Turion 64 X2 dual core processors with speeds from 1.8GHz to 2.2GHz, and ATI Mobility Radeon X1270 integrated graphics. so How/where do I read which chipsets are covered by which drivers? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers
You need to discover with lspci what ATI controller is in the machine and then check which ati-drivers packages support it. After doing that you need to make sure that the ati-drivers package you have chosen matches up with the kernel you are attempting to build/install. Basic lesson: Not all ati-driver packages work with all kernels. They come in matched sets over ranges. I don't know of a good single source for the information but the folks on the Phoronix forums have been very helpful to me. Hope this helps, Mark On 9/2/07, james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Im installing a new dell laptop. Mostly the install has been routine. > I cannot seem to get ati-drivers to install. > > bugs.gentoo.org did not reveal anything useful (not from what I read). > > Here is the error: > > /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ > modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: > In function 'KAS_SlabCache_Initialize': > /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ > modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5037: > warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size > make[2]: *** > [/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ > modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o] > Error 1 > make[1]: *** > [_module_/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/ > common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x] > Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-gentoo-r5' > make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2 > > !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed. > Call stack: > ebuild.sh, line 1638: Called dyn_compile > ebuild.sh, line 985: Called qa_call 'src_compile' > ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile > ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 170: Called linux-mod_src_compile > linux-mod.eclass, line 516: Called die > > !!! Unable to make GCC_VER_MAJ=4 KVER=2.6.22-gentoo-r5 KDIR=/usr/src/linux > kmod_build. > > > > so I thought I'd just add an entry to /etc/portage/package.keywords and try > another version (8.39.4) that works fine on another system. > > On the del laptop I cannot get the system to try another ati-drivers version, > despite addiing this to the /etc/portagae/package.keywords file: > x11-drivers/ati-drivers ~amd64 > > Identical to what I have on other systems. I lookedin /usr/portage/distfiles > and only found this ati file on the portable: > ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run > > so I downloaded the other files from a similar amd 64 system where I use > ati-drivers: > ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.30.3.run > ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.39.4-x86.x86_64.run > ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run > > > Still I compiling ati-drivers-8.36.5 fails and I cannot even get the > dell laptop to try another version of ati-drivers. I recompiled gcc, > just for grins. Did nothing to help (4.1.2). > > revdep-rebuild comes back clean. Since it is a new install, I mostly > missed something, xorg-x11 is there. No clue. > > Ideas? > > > James > > > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: failure on booting Gentoo Linux 2007 amd64 Live CD
LUIZ AFONSO BELLO DE CAMPOS click21.com.br> writes: > > >Dear Sirs > > After I had downloaded and burned on K3B the forementioned CD I don't > get it booted on my machine amd64 +3000. I've already its manual and doc, I > upgraded my K8VXSE motherboard BIOS...nothing! I don't know what else to do... try to boot the system on knoppix or another (linux) boot cd... Check your bios setting that the booting off the cd is an early option. First establish that the cd will allow some linux distro to boot the system, then we can focus in on a particular livecd (or minimal) to get you into the installation process. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ati-drivers
Hello, Im installing a new dell laptop. Mostly the install has been routine. I cannot seem to get ati-drivers to install. bugs.gentoo.org did not reveal anything useful (not from what I read). Here is the error: /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 'KAS_SlabCache_Initialize': /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5037: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size make[2]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/common/lib/ modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5/work/ common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22-gentoo-r5' make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2 !!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.35.5 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1638: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 985: Called qa_call 'src_compile' ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile ati-drivers-8.35.5.ebuild, line 170: Called linux-mod_src_compile linux-mod.eclass, line 516: Called die !!! Unable to make GCC_VER_MAJ=4 KVER=2.6.22-gentoo-r5 KDIR=/usr/src/linux kmod_build. so I thought I'd just add an entry to /etc/portage/package.keywords and try another version (8.39.4) that works fine on another system. On the del laptop I cannot get the system to try another ati-drivers version, despite addiing this to the /etc/portagae/package.keywords file: x11-drivers/ati-drivers ~amd64 Identical to what I have on other systems. I lookedin /usr/portage/distfiles and only found this ati file on the portable: ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run so I downloaded the other files from a similar amd 64 system where I use ati-drivers: ati-driver-installer-8.27.10-x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.30.3.run ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.39.4-x86.x86_64.run ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run Still I compiling ati-drivers-8.36.5 fails and I cannot even get the dell laptop to try another version of ati-drivers. I recompiled gcc, just for grins. Did nothing to help (4.1.2). revdep-rebuild comes back clean. Since it is a new install, I mostly missed something, xorg-x11 is there. No clue. Ideas? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
Hello Walter Dnes, > This setup is for a desktop PC that has "a user" not "a bunch of > users". I am *NOT* running a server with a bunch of users. If I was, > I'd be using quotas to prevent the problem described above. It only takes one user to have a runaway process, or even just one that uses more space than you expected, that fills /home. there are good reasons for separating user and system filesystems. > d) more partitions means more things to go wrong More partitions mean that when things go wrong, the effects are limited. Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves everything you want to, and more, without the compromises. > > you can't use different filesystems for different purposes, etc. > > You mean like ext2fs for a small rarely-written-to partition and > reiserfs for a gigantic partition with lots of files? How about ReiserFS for a general purpose partition or one that has a lot of small files and XFS for a partition that has a small number of very large files (XFS's performance is much better than Reiser's with multi-gigabyte files). How about a separate partition for large temporary files (think video processing and DVD authoring) so it doesn't fill up your home or system directories. There are many reasons to want to keep data on a separate filesystem, which LVM achieves but your approach does not permit. And what happens with 500GB is no longer enough and you want to add more space. How do you resize your "partitions" to use space on the second disk? -- Neil Bothwick There's more to life than sex, beer and computers. Not a lot more admittedly... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] failure on booting Gentoo Linux 2007 amd64 Live CD
On Montag, 3. September 2007, LUIZ AFONSO BELLO DE CAMPOS wrote: >Dear Sirs > > > After I had downloaded and burned on K3B the forementioned CD I > don't get it booted on my machine amd64 +3000. I've already its manual and > doc, I upgraded my K8VXSE motherboard BIOS...nothing! I don't know what > else to do... have you tried different boot options? noapic, noacpi etc? are there any messages? how far does the boot goes? or isn't the cd even recognized? did you make sure that the cd was burned correctly? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] failure on booting Gentoo Linux 2007 amd64 Live CD
Dear Sirs After I had downloaded and burned on K3B the forementioned CD I don't get it booted on my machine amd64 +3000. I've already its manual and doc, I upgraded my K8VXSE motherboard BIOS...nothing! I don't know what else to do... ___ Para fazer uma ligação DDD pra perto ou pra longe, faz um 21. A Embratel tem tarifas muito baratas esperando por você. Aproveite! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 10:00:50PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote > Am Sonntag, 2. September 2007 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > > > One disadvantage of your system that springs immediately to mind is > > that if a user manages to fill /home, it will stop the whole system > > working properly because /var is also full. This setup is for a desktop PC that has "a user" not "a bunch of users". I am *NOT* running a server with a bunch of users. If I was, I'd be using quotas to prevent the problem described above. > Another one is filesystem corruption, or even human error. Placing > everything into one single filesystem is a Bad Thing (tm). I.e. you > can't mount vital parts of the system ro to prevent accidental > deletion, or keep data or home volumes safely unmounted until they > are really needed/accessed (by use of the automounter), a) I'm running a home desktop PC, not a corporate server. If the "users" (i.e. me) can't co-ordinate with each other, then I've got a badly split personality b) I have the system backed up on a 320 gig external USB drive c) "automount" problems seem to crop up often in this list d) more partitions means more things to go wrong > you can't use different filesystems for different purposes, etc. You mean like ext2fs for a small rarely-written-to partition and reiserfs for a gigantic partition with lots of files? > Kids, don't try this at home :-) On the contrary, do this at home, but think twice before trying it on a corporate server. -- Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
Am Sonntag, 2. September 2007 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > Hello Walter Dnes, > > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sda1 1 60801 4883840015 Extended > > /dev/sda5 1 62 497952 83 Linux > > /dev/sda6 63 549 3911796 82 Linux swap > > /dev/sda7 550 60801 483974158+ 83 Linux > > What's wrong with making sda7 an LVM partition? Then you can allocate > space to the various directories as you wish. > > One disadvantage of your system that springs immediately to mind is that > if a user manages to fill /home, it will stop the whole system working > properly because /var is also full. Another one is filesystem corruption, or even human error. Placing everything into one single filesystem is a Bad Thing (tm). I.e. you can't mount vital parts of the system ro to prevent accidental deletion, or keep data or home volumes safely unmounted until they are really needed/accessed (by use of the automounter), you can't use different filesystems for different purposes, etc. Kids, don't try this at home :-) Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval
b.n. wrote: sean ha scritto: Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the Internet. Use flag cddb is present. Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info. Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped. Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this problem? Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck. It seems more a problem with the cddb/freedb/whatever servers than with your software... Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from you? Just to be sure it's not their fault. m. I can ping them. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
Hello Walter Dnes, >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 1 60801 4883840015 Extended > /dev/sda5 1 62 497952 83 Linux > /dev/sda6 63 549 3911796 82 Linux swap > /dev/sda7 550 60801 483974158+ 83 Linux What's wrong with making sda7 an LVM partition? Then you can allocate space to the various directories as you wish. One disadvantage of your system that springs immediately to mind is that if a user manages to fill /home, it will stop the whole system working properly because /var is also full. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 11: Terribly pleased signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval
sean ha scritto: > Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the > Internet. > Use flag cddb is present. > > Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info. > Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped. > > Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this > problem? > > Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck. It seems more a problem with the cddb/freedb/whatever servers than with your software... Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from you? Just to be sure it's not their fault. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Music Retrieval
Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the Internet. Use flag cddb is present. Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info. Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped. Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this problem? Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck. Thanks Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X now starts.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 b.n. wrote: > As for Portage (X-based) GUIs, I don't use them, but AFAIK the most > mature of them is Kuroo. I don't know of text-based interfaces, I > remember me and some guy on the ML planned to write one but never did. Yep. With me. Genetic. The devel team members had other things to do, so they said goodbye. You started your own, and I went into the OpenPGP Extensions for HTTP project. - -- Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Servicios Ofrecidos: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ Unase a los Foros GNU/Buanzo - La palabra Comunidad en su maxima expresion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2ua5AlpOsGhXcE0RCsCNAJ9mSA0iYpe+nYJGbA6uPWTcwvKNhwCfZj7s Nh7zk7INylh0XwO1NnX5kvY= =Jt71 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] amavis + dspam + dspam+web (analysis tab)
Hello list, does anyone know if the analysis tab in dspam-web is broken when dspam runs from amavis? Many thanks in advance, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X now starts.
Hendrik Boom ha scritto: >> I still haven't found a way to browse the list of available packages >> the way I used to do in Debian using aptitude or packages.debian.org. Well, before the "incident", http://packages.gentoo.org/ was online. Now we have to wait. In the meantime, emerge gentoolkit and emerge eix .Eix is a great tool. As for Portage (X-based) GUIs, I don't use them, but AFAIK the most mature of them is Kuroo. I don't know of text-based interfaces, I remember me and some guy on the ML planned to write one but never did. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finally installed Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530 desktop
Walter Dnes ha scritto: > I checked dell.com's support knowledgebase. Only the most recent > kernels support SATA drives in IDE mode, Sorry for the ignorance... but what does this mean? I use a SATA disk at home but they are not in "IDE mode", AFAIK... it shows up as /dev/sda - Can you explain me the difference? Is it needed for some chipsets? m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
While installing Gentoo recently, I managed to pull off a cute stunt that... a) minimizes wasted disk space b) retains the ability to wipe and re-install the OS, without wiping user data I'm considering doing a Gentoo Wiki entry, if one hasn't already been done. First, I'll run it past the list for comments and any problems you may find. (Update: after a read-through, it occurs to me that I should probably bindmount /opt similarly to /tmp, /usr, and /var). The example below uses /dev/sda. Substitute as appropriate for your system (hda or wharever) Step 1) Partition a blank hard drive. - partition the entire hard drive (500 gigabytes in my case) as one gigantic extended partition (partition 1) - create a 500 megabyte logical linux (type 83) partition of at the beginning of the extended partition (partition 5). This will be the / partition - next, create a logical linux swap (type 82) partition approx twice the size of your ram (partition 6). - next, create a logical linux (type 83) partition using the remainder of the drive (partition 7). This will be mounted as /home. Here's what my drive looks like, according to "fdisk -l" Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 60801 4883840015 Extended /dev/sda5 1 62 497952 83 Linux /dev/sda6 63 549 3911796 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda7 550 60801 483974158+ 83 Linux Step 2) File system creation... *WARNING* the following script wipes all data on partitions 5, 6, and 7. Use this only when you want to wipe everything, *INCLUDING ALL YOUR DATA*, and start fresh. For mounting the drive after a reboot during install (or booting off the install CD for rescue work) use the script in step 3. #!/bin/bash mke2fs /dev/sda5 mkswap /dev/sda6 mkreiserfs /dev/sda7 swapon /dev/sda6 mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/gentoo -o noatime mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/home -o noatime,notail mkdir /mnt/gentoo/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/var mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp /mnt/gentoo/tmp mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var /mnt/gentoo/var Again, substitute as appropriate if your harddrive is not /dev/sda. Let's examine the script in detail... mke2fs /dev/sda5 mkswap /dev/sda6 mkreiserfs /dev/sda7 swapon /dev/sda6 The first 4 commands format the partitions and activate the swapdrive. Partition 5 really should be ext2fs for a few reasons... - Partition 5 will rarely be written to during normal operation; only when you are installing/updating programs/scripts that reside in /bin or /sbin so journalling isn't that important. - Journalling requires disk space, which we're trying to conserve. - Given the small size of the / partition, ext2fs is sufficient - ext2fs is the easiest filesystem to shrink/grow. If you ever need to grow the / partition in future, you can take space from the swap partition. Unless you're doing a suspend-to-swap, you can screw around with the swap partition with impunity. - partition 7 will require a (preferably journalling) filesystem that can handle a large partition. I currently use reiserfs. There are several competent filesystems. The choice is yours. mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/gentoo -o noatime mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/home -o noatime,notail The next 3 statements - mount partition 5 as / - create directory /home on partition 5 - mount partition 7 as /home. All physical partitions are now mounted. mkdir /mnt/gentoo/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/var The next 6 statements create /tmp, /usr, and /var, and set permissions. mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var The next 7 statements create /home/bindmounts/ on partition 7, and then create mirrors of /tmp, /usr, and /var in /home/bindmounts, and set permissions. mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp /mnt/gentoo/tmp mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var /mnt/g
Re: [gentoo-user] audiocd:/mnt/cdrom not working
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:25:30 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Hello Richard Marzan, [...] > You cannot mount audio CDs (unless they also contain a data track). > Either put "audiocd:/" in the location bar or select Audio CD Browser > from the Services tab in the Konqueror sidebar. with audiocd:/ worked fine. Thanks for your reply! Cheers, Arnau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: X now starts. (was: Gentoo still not up ...)
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:30:03 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > So I proceeded to emerge xorg-server for real. No more keyboard problems. > Instead I get the black screen of death. The monitor on light starts > bliking, indicating it is getting no signal, ctrl-alt-backspace and > ctrl-alt-delete don't work, and only a hard reset on the box itself > gets anything going. > > My make.conf specifies VIDEO_CARDS="radeon", even though the automatically > generated /root/xorg.conf.new specifies > > Driver "ati" > > in the "Device" section. Could this be a problem? The hardware is a. ATI > Radeon all-in-wonder card. > > I tried replacing ati by fbdev just to get something working, but it just > told me it couldn't find fbdev. Presumably this driver was not installed. > Is the proper way to install this add in fbdev to the make.conf file: > > VIDEO_CARDS="radeon fbdev" > > or even > > VIDEO_CARDS="radeon ati fbdev" > > and then re-emerge xorg-server? Well, that worked. X -config /root/xorg.conf.new gives me the usual grey tweed pattern and an X cursor. Both the ati and radeon drivers work, but fbdev doesn't -- not that I need it any more, of course. > Or is there a more straightforward way? > I still haven't found a way to browse the list of available packages > the way I used to do in Debian using aptitude or packages.debian.org. > > -- hendrik > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proper proxy syntax to synchronize time via rdate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * net-misc/htpdate Available versions: ~0.9.2 0.9.3 1.0.0 Homepage:http://www.clevervest.com/htp/ Description: Synchronize local workstation with time offered by remote webservers - -- Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Servicios Ofrecidos: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ Unase a los Foros GNU/Buanzo - La palabra Comunidad en su maxima expresion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2qn2AlpOsGhXcE0RCuhQAJ9e/DtEe59paNudKFB+/jisi2QZagCfaTzd ZPwA1qinQRnthkW6NAUKmJc= =sgND -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proper proxy syntax to synchronize time via rdate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There is a tool in portage or freshmeat, if my memory doesn't fail me, that uses HTTP to sync time/date. - -- Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Servicios Ofrecidos: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ Unase a los Foros GNU/Buanzo - La palabra Comunidad en su maxima expresion. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2qnTAlpOsGhXcE0RCkLbAJ97Tsuhb6WHzZ76N8YFnA6dC0QP5QCfW5H9 y8Hq0kIfUz8+TUbSdvH2khE= =aZbw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] proper proxy syntax to synchronize time via rdate
Hi Liviu, it seems you're only allowed to access web, FTP and rsync services on the Internet through your proxy. Both rsync and NTP use their own ports and protocols, different from HTTP/FTP/rsync. Firstly, you need a proxy server (or some other form of tunnel) that will allow for rdate/NTP traffic between your computer and Internet. Secondly, you have to configure rdate/NTP to make use of the proxy, but AFAIK there's nothing like ntp_proxy or rdate_proxy env. variables these programs would honor. Instead, timeserver proxies are more common in the form of a local timeserver which sync's with an external timesource and offers its services to the local network via standard protocols. You would then sync time using this proxy directly, e.g. "rdate -s timeproxy.localaddress.dom". Try asking around if there's such a service available in your local network. -Roman > Hello everyone, > > I'm trying to synchronize the system time with the help of rdate > (openNTPD is on the list in case of failure). I have one problem, > though: I connect to the Internet through a proxy server. I have set > up the necessary environment, but I doubt that rdate listens to it: > > localhost init.d # env | grep -i proxy > http_proxy=proxy.address.dom:port > ftp_proxy=proxy.address.dom:port > rsync_proxy=proxy.address.dom:port > https_proxy=proxy.address.dom:port > > localhost init.d # rdate pool.ntp.org > rdate: couldn't connect to host pool.ntp.org: Connection refused > > Please advise on how to correctly specify the proxy server in the NTP > server address. I am wondering if there is a syntax similar to > proxy.address.dom:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, how can I make > rdate honour the proxy settings? > > Regards, > Liviu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo still not up -- now no kbd driver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hendrik Boom wrote: > Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 230 kB > >> # equery check x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard > > -bash: equery: command not found > > emerge gentoolkit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2qBmaiVxdKlBO58RAhKyAJ9uDDr6Ual0VQDDgh0z3um0vo+UXgCcCk1Y tem37Zg4gzYbfL+1woTpc54= =AV4j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo still not up -- now no kbd driver
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:52:11 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Saturday 01 September 2007 19:24:51 Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > Have you enabled the keyboard USE flag under INPUT_DEVICES in >> > xorg-xserver? You can set this in make.conf. >> >> make.conf ends with the lines >> >> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" >> VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" >> >> Is this what you mean? > > *nod* > Aha! xorg-server! All I saw in the docs I had been looking at was xorg-x11. > # emerge -pv xorg-server These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies . done! [ebuild N] x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.1.1 USE="-debug" 230 kB [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3 USE="dri ipv6 nptl xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal -sdl -xprint" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard* mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -nv -nvidia -r128 -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware -voodoo" 0 kB Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 230 kB > # equery check x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard -bash: equery: command not found > So I proceeded to emerge xorg-server for real. No more keyboard problems. Instead I get the black screen of death. The monitor on light starts bliking, indicating it is getting no signal, ctrl-alt-backspace and ctrl-alt-delete don't work, and only a hard reset on the box itself gets anything going. My make.conf specifies VIDEO_CARDS="radeon", even though the automatically generated /root/xorg.conf.new specifies Driver "ati" in the "Device" section. Could this be a problem? The hardware is a. ATI Radeon all-in-wonder card. I tried replacing ati by fbdev just to get something working, but it just told me it couldn't find fbdev. Presumably this driver was not installed. Is the proper way to install this add in fbdev to the make.conf file: VIDEO_CARDS="radeon fbdev" or even VIDEO_CARDS="radeon ati fbdev" and then re-emerge xorg-server? Or is there a more straightforward way? I still haven't found a way to browse the list of available packages the way I used to do in Debian using aptitude or packages.debian.org. -- hendrik -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! > > I'm trying to set up my laptop as the router for my PC. > > In the end it should look like this: > > ppp0 - laptop - eth0 <---> eth0 - PC > > My problem: As soon as set up eth0 with "ifconfig 192.168.1.1 netmask > 255.255.255.0 eth0" ppp0 is no longer used. > > I tried to follow this howto: > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_quick_routing I do this too and I have this in my /etc/conf.d/net file on the one that connects to the internet. gateway="ppp0" You may want to try that. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] problem with gentoo-sources on sparc32-platform
Hi, I built a 2.6.22-r5 kernel on a sparc32-platform. However elftoaout refuses to convert this with the message 'wrong elf version'. File on the kernel gives me: vmlinux: ELF 32-bit MSB relocatable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped So I guess elftoaout is right since the kernel is not statically linked. My question, what do I have to change in the kernel-config to get a statically linked vmlinux like on every other machine I have? Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 "Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos." B'Elana Torres -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hi list! I'm trying to set up my laptop as the router for my PC. In the end it should look like this: ppp0 - laptop - eth0 <---> eth0 - PC My problem: As soon as set up eth0 with "ifconfig 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0" ppp0 is no longer used. I tried to follow this howto: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_quick_routing -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] audiocd:/mnt/cdrom not working
Hello Richard Marzan, > Run mount, When you insert the CD before you take the step that fails to > work for you and show me the output. Does the cd have to be mounted > before any operation takes place? You cannot mount audio CDs (unless they also contain a data track). Either put "audiocd:/" in the location bar or select Audio CD Browser from the Services tab in the Konqueror sidebar. Alternatively, with a suitable setting in the Audio CD tab or Control Centre->Peripherals->Removable Storage, you can have Konqueror open the window automatically or give a choice of doing this or playing the CD. -- Neil Bothwick How do a fool and his money GET together? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
