Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?

2008-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 BTW: if libexpat.so.0 was there before the update and now isn't,
 there's an major bug in expat (either the ebuild or the source).

There's no bug in expat, the OP is doing an *expat*upgrade*, which means 
that libexpat.so.0 was there before and libexpat.so.1 is there now. 
Thus any app that links explicitly to libexpat.so.0 is now broken.

A source based distro like Gentoo runs this risk with every library 
upgrade and sometimes it hits a low level lib with deep dependencies 
like expat. There are only two possible solutions to this:

1. Track the links between every app and every lib, and as soon as one 
is detected with a lib upgrade then fire an event to trigger a 
recompile of the linking app. This solution is so ugly, so error-prone 
that I cannot suffer it to live.

2. Something like revdep-rebuild that scans the system looking for 
errors and is triggered manually by the user.

Getting through these upgrades is a serious PITA. But at least on Gentoo 
we can fix it. Imagine using a binary distro where the packager didn't 
pick this up and you are left stranded with no easy way to fix it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-19 Thread Alex Schuster
Neil Bothwick writes:

 On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:20:39 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too
  small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on
  LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink
  that to somewhere else.

 You could set $CCACHE_DIR, which seems less kludgy to me.

Right.

  But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB?

 Because you have built your kernel with CONFIG_KITCHENSINK=m?

 % du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
 9.9M/lib/modules/2.6.24-tuxonice-r3

 Hmmm, it's 22MB on my desktop, time to start pruning .config.

Well, I think I did that. I copied the kubuntu config, but went through most 
options with menuconfig and deactivated a lot. I kept bluetooth, USB and 
DVB stuff, and some more, though, because I do not know yet which devices 
might be needed later.

So, the original kubuntu .config has even much more stuff in it. Squashfs 
compression must be very good, or the whole CD would be filled with modules 
only.

 % df -h /
 FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda5 reiserfs385M  189M  196M  50% /

 That includes /boot with two kernels.

Looks like what I had expected.

But that's okay, I created another, bigger root partition. I just think that 
the documentation could mention this. Remember, if you are going to get 
your .config fram a CD like knoppix, your /lib directory will neeed at 
about 500 M, so be sure aour root partition is big enough or something 
like that would have helped.


Flash would be nice now. For some people it does work fine, but for others 
this still is not the case it seems. Using firefox-bin or wine might be 
workarounds, but I would not like that much - I like to use konqueror.

The video driver problem seems to be sort of solved. Looks like a permission 
problem, the X user has direct rendering. I guess  a Section DRI with 
Mode 0666 will solve that.

Still, I wonder how to get a new xorg.conf. X -configure also fails on other 
machines with a similar error.

Yet another probem we just saw is display of videos. Xine works fine, but 
with mplayer or vlc it seems like the frames are not all in correct order, 
the output skips back a little about once a second.

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[gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Dani Crisan
 Please help me in solving this issue.

So
  
  
iwlist scan  
eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.

loInterface doesn't support scanning.

sit0  Interface doesn't support scanning.

wmaster0  Interface doesn't support scanning.

wlan0 Scan completed :
  Cell 01 - Address: 00:1B:11:FB:9D:00
ESSID:dlink
Mode:Master
Channel:6
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=83/100  Signal level=-51 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
Encryption key:off
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
  9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
  48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Extra:tsf=001e7286c097
  Cell 02 - Address: 00:1D:7E:E3:8C:DD
ESSID:baladei-wifi
Mode:Master
Channel:10
Frequency:2.457 GHz (Channel 10)
Quality=96/100  Signal level=-32 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
Encryption key:on
IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
  24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
  12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:tsf=c2357a43


and my wireless is connecting to dlink since it is free. Mine is baladei-wifi. 

Here are the /etc/conf.d/net
  
  
modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
config_wlan0=(dhcp)


and the wpa_supplicant.conf

  
  
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant

network={
ssid=baladei-wifi
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP 
psk=a077c1a5543504137b2a0d42ad045741c6173cb2bb9770a1818e6d661b968d32
}
How can I make it to authenticate to my baladei-wifi?

Please help because I didn't find anything on the web to solve my issue.





  

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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:42:06 -0700 (PDT), Dani Crisan wrote:

 and my wireless is connecting to dlink since it is free. Mine is
 baladei-wifi. 
 
 Here are the /etc/conf.d/net
 
 modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
 wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
 config_wlan0=(dhcp)
[snip]

   How can I make it to authenticate to my baladei-wifi?
 
 Please help because I didn't find anything on the web to solve my issue.

Look closer to home, specifically /etc/conf.d/wireless.example. More
specifically, the preferred_aps setting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Henry Gebhardt
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Dani Crisan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  (...)
  modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
  wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
  config_wlan0=(dhcp)

  (...)

  How can I make it to authenticate to my baladei-wifi?


 preferred_aps='baladei-wifi' 'dlink'
 associate_order=forcepreferred

That way it will first try baladei-wifi, and only if that doesn't
work, dlink. Notice that 'baladei-wifi' and 'dlink' are in single
quotes. See /etc/conf.d/net.example for more details.

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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Dani Crisan
Thank you for the quick reply.

I made what you said and now it still connects to dlink but I'll read the 
wireless.example.

Have a nice day.

- Original Message 
From: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:50:35 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:42:06 -0700 (PDT), Dani Crisan wrote:

 and my wireless is connecting to dlink since it is free. Mine is
 baladei-wifi. 
 
 Here are the /etc/conf.d/net
   
 modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
 wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
 config_wlan0=(dhcp)
[snip]

 How can I make it to authenticate to my baladei-wifi?
 
 Please help because I didn't find anything on the web to solve my issue.

Look closer to home, specifically /etc/conf.d/wireless.example. More
specifically, the preferred_aps setting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dani Crisan wrote:

 I made what you said and now it still connects to dlink but I'll read
 the wireless.example.

Please don't top-post, it makes conversations difficult to follow and
impossible to quote meaningfully.

preferred_aps means that it will try that aps first, but if it fails, it
will then try dlink. You can force it to only use a specific aps with
essid_wlan0=baladei-wifi but I susopect your problem is that the
connection to your preferred aps is failing and dlink being used as a
fallback.

The system log should show details of the connection process, try tail
-f /var/log/messages before you do /etc/init.d/wlan0 start.


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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Dani Crisan
Hy again,

Here is the new /etc/conf.d/net:

pre-up(){
 ifconfig wlan0 up
}

modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
essid_wlan0=any
mode_wlan0=managed
preferred_aps_wlan0='baladei-wifi' 'dlink'
assciate_order_wlan0=forcepreferedonly
wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
config_wlan0=(dhcp)

When I issue /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart it still connects to dlink and from 
the log file it seems that it ignores baladei-wifi:

 Mar 19 14:50:17 dani-laptop dhcpcd[8535]: wlan0: received SIGTERM, stopping
Mar 19 14:50:17 dani-laptop dhcpcd[8535]: wlan0: removing default route via 
192.168.0.1 metric 2000
Mar 19 14:50:17 dani-laptop dhcpcd[8535]: wlan0: deleting IP address 
192.168.0.101/24
Mar 19 14:50:17 dani-laptop dhcpcd[8535]: wlan0: exiting
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :0c:00.0 disabled
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop ACPI: PCI Interrupt :0c:00.0[A] - GSI 17 
(level, low) - IRQ 17
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop PM: Writing back config space on device 
:0c:00.0 at offset 1 (was 100102, writing 100106)
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: RX authentication from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticated
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: associate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authentication frame received from 
00:1b:11:fb:9d:00, but not in authenticate state - ignored
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(capab=0x421 status=0 aid=2)
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: associated
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: RX authentication from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticated
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: associate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: authentication frame received from 
00:1b:11:fb:9d:00, but not in authenticate state - ignored
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(capab=0x421 status=0 aid=1)
Mar 19 14:50:18 dani-laptop wlan0: associated
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: RX authentication from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(alg=0 transaction=2 status=0)
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: authenticated
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: associate with AP 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: RX ReassocResp from 00:1b:11:fb:9d:00 
(capab=0x421 status=0 aid=2)
Mar 19 14:50:19 dani-laptop wlan0: associated


Any ideeas?


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From: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:22:11 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:06:59 -0700 (PDT), Dani Crisan wrote:

 I made what you said and now it still connects to dlink but I'll read
 the wireless.example.

Please don't top-post, it makes conversations difficult to follow and
impossible to quote meaningfully.

preferred_aps means that it will try that aps first, but if it fails, it
will then try dlink. You can force it to only use a specific aps with
essid_wlan0=baladei-wifi but I susopect your problem is that the
connection to your preferred aps is failing and dlink being used as a
fallback.

The system log should show details of the connection process, try tail
-f /var/log/messages before you do /etc/init.d/wlan0 start.


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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:54:10 -0700 (PDT), Dani Crisan wrote:

PLEASE DO NOT TOP-POST

 modules_wlan0=( dhcp iwconfig wpa_supplicant)
 essid_wlan0=any

Try setting this to baladei-wifi

 mode_wlan0=managed
 preferred_aps_wlan0='baladei-wifi' 'dlink'

I'm not sure how the init script will react to the nested quotes
instead of parentheses here. The syntax in the examples is

preferred_aps_wlan0=( baladei-wifi dlink )

 assciate_order_wlan0=forcepreferedonly
 wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
 config_wlan0=(dhcp)
 
 When I issue /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart it still connects to dlink
 and from the log file it seems that it ignores baladei-wifi:

If the fixed net config doesn't help, try disabling WPA on the access
point and see if it then connects.


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
hi

can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal


Re: [gentoo-user] wireless problem

2008-03-19 Thread Alexander Meinke

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Hi Dani,

your configuration file looks ok. To prior one ap more than another Iam using
the priority=int option in my wpa_supplicant.conf.
The second problem, that you're not able to connect to your wpa secured ap,
could be triggered by not compiled in gnutls. So please check if this useflag is
enabled.


Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Dale

Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

hi

can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal


With regard to?  There are a lot of commands in Gentoo.  Emerge is a 
huge one.  eix, equery is a couple of others.


The most common commands for me are emerge --sync, I actually use 
eix-sync but same thing and emerge -uvDN world.  The first syncs the 
tree to the latest and the second updates whatever is new.


Your mileage may vary on this. 


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:

Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

hi

can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal


With regard to?  There are a lot of commands in Gentoo.  Emerge is a 
huge one.  eix, equery is a couple of others.


The most common commands for me are emerge --sync, I actually use 
eix-sync but same thing and emerge -uvDN world.  The first syncs the 
tree to the latest and the second updates whatever is new.


Your mileage may vary on this.
Dale

:-)  :-)


Oh, man is a good one too.  man emerge, man equery, man eix etc etc.  
Sort of tells you how to use them, if you speak, Greek.  That rhyme?  LOL


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 hi

 can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/19/08, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, man is a good one too.  man emerge, man equery, man eix etc etc.
 Sort of tells you how to use them, if you speak, Greek.  That rhyme?  LOL


Always a nice thing to remember to new people using Linux, whatever distro
it is:
man man

Regards,

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[gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Grant
A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/19/08, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?


Have you tried to reset your BIOS? I would certainly try that before
changing my MOBO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Ricardo Saffi Marques 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3/19/08, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Oh, man is a good one too.  man emerge, man equery, man eix etc etc.
  Sort of tells you how to use them, if you speak, Greek.  That
  rhyme?  LOL


 Always a nice thing to remember to new people using Linux, whatever distro
 it is:
 man man

 Regards,

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Hi

How can i create .tbz2 file

Thanks

Kaushal


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 hi

 can i have a list of Gentoo Linux basic commands to start with

Basic commands for what? If Linux in general, google for bash. Read 
any of the introductions. If Gentoo-specific stuff, read the manual.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

 Hi

 How can i create .tbz2 file

man tar


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:

 How can i create .tbz2 file

touch .tbz2

*SCNR*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:

 How can i create .tbz2 file

Now the real thing:

man tar

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Grant
  A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
  the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
  problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
  replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

 Have you tried to reset your BIOS? I would certainly try that before
 changing my MOBO.

Do you mean battery out and back in?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
2008/3/19 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:

  How can i create .tbz2 file

 Now the real thing:

 man tar

 HTH...

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I mean using quickpg command

kaushal


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
2008/3/19 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:

  How can i create .tbz2 file

 Now the real thing:

 man tar

 HTH...

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hi

I mean using quickpkg command

kaushal


Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
 3/19/08, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you mean battery out and back in?


Battery out, short-circuit it's contacts on the mobo while pressing the
power button and then put it back and try to turn it on. But that is the raw
way to do that, hahaha.
The idea is for you to change the jumper located the closest to the battery,
press power, change it back to it's original place and then power up again.
Just a classic BIOS reset.

Regards,

Saffi

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/19/08, Ricardo Saffi Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  3/19/08, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Do you mean battery out and back in?


Or that.
http://www.trap17.com/index.php/how-reset-bios-guide_t39291.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:

 I mean using quickpkg command

How would I know what you mean when you didn't write it?

man quickpkg

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?

2008-03-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
  BTW: if libexpat.so.0 was there before the update and now isn't,
  there's an major bug in expat (either the ebuild or the source).
 
 There's no bug in expat, the OP is doing an *expat*upgrade*, which 
 means that libexpat.so.0 was there before and libexpat.so.1 is there 
 now. Thus any app that links explicitly to libexpat.so.0 is now broken.

If an upgrade breaks primary things, it's simply broken. 
You can now choose, whether the bug is expat or the ebuild/portage.

 2. Something like revdep-rebuild that scans the system looking for 
 errors and is triggered manually by the user.

This is also ugly and error-prone. After every slightest upgrade 
you have to fear nothing's running anymore and everything has to be 
rebuilt first. If downtimes don't matter, fine. But for critical 
systems, this is very dangerous.

Why not modeling/storing the *runtime* dependencies and doing 
an *clean* MVCC ? Isn't this what slotting was meant for ? ;-P

 Imagine using a binary distro where the packager didn't 
 pick this up and you are left stranded with no easy way to fix it...

Then the package manager's obviously broken ...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 2008/3/19 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:
   How can i create .tbz2 file
 
  Now the real thing:
 
  man tar
 
  HTH...
 
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 I mean using quickpg command

 kaushal

man quickpkg

Really dude, it's now time to get a grip and start reading the very man 
pages that are put there to deal with this kind of thing

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Linux Basic commands to begin with

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:28:37 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

 I mean using quickpg command

As long as what you mean and what you ask differ, you will never get the
answers you want. Try asking specific questions with enough detail for
people to understand what you want.


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:41:52 -0700, Grant wrote:

 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

Try the power supplies in a different computer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:
  3/19/08, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you mean battery out and back in?

 Battery out, short-circuit it's contacts on the mobo while pressing the
 power button and then put it back and try to turn it on. But that is the
 raw way to do that, hahaha.

this is a very certain way to destroy the mobo.

 The idea is for you to change the jumper located the closest to the
 battery, press power, change it back to it's original place and then power
 up again. Just a classic BIOS reset.

no.

Don't press power. Don't even get close to power. Just set the jumper, wait 
some seconds, set it back to 'work state' and boot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Joe Menola
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 8:41:52 am Grant wrote:
 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

 - Grant

Quite possibly your cpu and/or cooling fan. To test this...pull your current 
units out, hook-up a known good fan (without any cpu) and apply power. 
If the fan spins, you've isolated your problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/19/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 this is a very certain way to destroy the mobo.


I don't know how this is in newer mobos, but I have certainly seen ppl doing
that without any problem.

no.
 Don't press power. Don't even get close to power. Just set the jumper,
 wait
 some seconds, set it back to 'work state' and boot.


Well I'm not here to get into silly discussions. Even because I haven't done
that in a while. If you say so, I strongly advice Grant to do as you say.
Sorry for any bad info.

Regards,

Saffi

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
every mobo manual I ever read (and I read a lot) said the same: set the jumper 
and don't turn on the box. Never turn on the box with the jumper set, or 
mainboard might be destroyed/rendered unbootable.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/19/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 every mobo manual I ever read (and I read a lot) said the same: set the
 jumper
 and don't turn on the box. Never turn on the box with the jumper set, or
 mainboard might be destroyed/rendered unbootable.


Nice. Thanks for the update.
Sorry again.

Regards,

Saffi

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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:

 Flash would be nice now. For some people it does work fine, but for
 others this still is not the case it seems. Using firefox-bin or wine
 might be workarounds, but I would not like that much - I like to use
 konqueror.

Most flash works with Konqueror here, using nspluginwraper, even YouTube
works fine nowadays. Occasionally one of my CPUs goes to 100% and top
shows nspluginwrapper doing this, killing the process fixes it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64

2008-03-19 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, 16:54, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:20:16 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Flash would be nice now. For some people it does work fine, but for
  others this still is not the case it seems. Using firefox-bin or
  wine might be workarounds, but I would not like that much - I like
  to use konqueror.

 Most flash works with Konqueror here, using nspluginwraper, even
 YouTube works fine nowadays. Occasionally one of my CPUs goes to 100%
 and top shows nspluginwrapper doing this, killing the process fixes
 it.

To add to the discussion, on amd64 I use swfdec-mozilla without major 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Joe Menola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quite possibly your cpu and/or cooling fan. To test this...pull your current 
 units out, hook-up a known good fan (without any cpu) and apply power. 
 If the fan spins, you've isolated your problem.

Depends on the board type. I've already seen boards which didn't
even turn on the fan if there's no CPU present. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] expat upgrade, kdelibs: circular problem?

2008-03-19 Thread brullo nulla
Ok, you all can stop ranting about ebuilds etc. being broken. :)

I found the culprit, it seems something wrong in the kdelibs building.
Basically, when kdelibs builds dcopidl,  it happily *says* oh, this
would need libXft, that in turn has a broken link to libexpat.so.0.
But who cares, let's go along with it! instead of stopping and
telling me that libXft is broken.

I have no more the relevant compilation output snippet, but that's the
meaning. So, I just emerged libXft, fixing the expat link, and
everything went pretty smooth.

Now I have the problem that Thunderbird starts, but no window comes
out, but it's a different stuff...

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread gk
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2008 14:41:52 schrieb Grant:
 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

 - Grant



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Hi
A friend of mine had the same problem some time ago. I also tried a lot of 
stuff and changed almost all the hardware, except the cpu and mb. I didn't 
know what to do else, and then at last I changed the battery on the 
Mainboard, and everything worked fine again.

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[gentoo-user] OF Usage of memory in 32bits mode

2008-03-19 Thread Strong Cypher
hi
i want to know if the usage of lomem and himem are totally transparent
in 32 bits
i use ibm db2 and apache with old xeon in a 32 bits mode with 4g of mem
it seam that usage of mem are limited to lomem only
free give me cache not more that 800m used that correspond to lomem
any try to use more fail in db2

somebody have an clue for me?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OF Usage of memory in 32bits mode

2008-03-19 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, 21:47, Strong Cypher wrote:
 hi
 i want to know if the usage of lomem and himem are totally transparent
 in 32 bits
 i use ibm db2 and apache with old xeon in a 32 bits mode with 4g of
 mem it seam that usage of mem are limited to lomem only
 free give me cache not more that 800m used that correspond to lomem
 any try to use more fail in db2

Did you enable CONFIG_HIGHMEM and CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G when building the 
kernel?

One of them if not both surely is needed to see all your memory.
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[gentoo-user] Fusion-icon

2008-03-19 Thread Danis Petkakis
hello there...yesterday i did a major stupidity of mine...i accidentaly
unmerged python
and borked my system...i managed to get my system back to work but since
then
fusion-icon doesn't work...here is what i get when running it from konsole

jrn23@ ~  fusion-icon
 * Detected Session: kde
 * Searching for installed applications...
 * NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
 * Using the GTK Interface
 * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gobject/_gobject.so: undefined
symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromObject
 ... Trying another interface
 * Using the Qt4 Interface
 * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sip.so: undefined symbol:
PyUnicodeUCS4_AsWideChar
 ... Trying another interface
 * Using the Qt3 Interface
 * Interface not installed
 *** Error: All interfaces failed, aborting!


could someone tell me how to solve this?? after the crash and after i
recovered python in order to get 'emerge' to
work i did 'emerge -vNuD world' and then 'revdep-rebuild' and re-emerged
fusion-icon...what else should i do??


[gentoo-user] Re: OF Usage of memory in 32bits mode

2008-03-19 Thread Strong Cypher
yeah i m sure
i see 4g but only 800m (lowmem) is used
i really dont know why
i wondering if for use himem programs need to do somethink

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 On Wednesday 19 March 2008, 21:47, Strong Cypher wrote:
  hi
  i want to know if the usage of lomem and himem are totally transparent
  in 32 bits
  i use ibm db2 and apache with old xeon in a 32 bits mode with 4g of
  mem it seam that usage of mem are limited to lomem only
  free give me cache not more that 800m used that correspond to lomem
  any try to use more fail in db2

 Did you enable CONFIG_HIGHMEM and CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G when building the
 kernel?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fusion-icon

2008-03-19 Thread birbilis
Re-emerge dev-python/sip and probably all the python modules you have 
installed (?). There must be a script for this though i don't recall it :|

Στις Τετ 19 Μαρ 2008, ο/η Danis Petkakis έγραψε:
 hello there...yesterday i did a major stupidity of mine...i accidentaly
 unmerged python
 and borked my system...i managed to get my system back to work but since
 then
 fusion-icon doesn't work...here is what i get when running it from
 konsole

 jrn23@ ~  fusion-icon
  * Detected Session: kde
  * Searching for installed applications...
  * NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
  * Using the GTK Interface
  * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gobject/_gobject.so: undefined
 symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromObject
  ... Trying another interface
  * Using the Qt4 Interface
  * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sip.so: undefined symbol:
 PyUnicodeUCS4_AsWideChar
  ... Trying another interface
  * Using the Qt3 Interface
  * Interface not installed
  *** Error: All interfaces failed, aborting!


 could someone tell me how to solve this?? after the crash and after i
 recovered python in order to get 'emerge' to
 work i did 'emerge -vNuD world' and then 'revdep-rebuild' and re-emerged
 fusion-icon...what else should i do??


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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a printer to XP: Samba vs IPP

2008-03-19 Thread David Blamire-Brown
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:13:09 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Mark Shields wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM, David Blamire-Brown 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have followed the guide on gentoo.org. I've sort of got printing
   working via Samba, but haven't been able to configure it for XP users to
   print without having to login to Samba. So I'm looking back at using IPP
   on the XP laptop.

 
  It sounds like you need to enable guest and public access to the printer.
  Here is an older guide, but it seems to have the relevant stuff you need:
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=110931
 
  These lines:
 
  public = yes
  guest ok = yes
 
  Check out the guide for the appropriate places to put them.
 
 You will also want to configure cups.conf to listen not only to localhost, 
 but 
 to also listen to the IP address of the XP box.
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 Regards,
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Thank you for the advice. 
cups.conf and smb.conf were already configured as per the guides. So that 
wasn't the problem. Setting security = share appears to have resolved the login 
issues. 
Guest access for printing in security = user seems to have the unfortunate side 
effect of Windows deciding it is already logged in to samba, making impossible 
to connect to the homes share without logging out to clear the cache of 
connections.
I can't tell whether my initial issues with not being able to print as guest 
were related to the default guest linux account (nobody) not being in the lp 
group, but that's probably a different topic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing a printer to XP: Samba vs IPP

2008-03-19 Thread David Blamire-Brown
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:00:49 -0400
Benjamen R. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David Blamire-Brown wrote:
  Hi,
  This is a question about a small home network set-up for printing. I can't 
  tell if this is OT for this list, but that doesn't seem to be a firm 
  restriction in this part of the world in any case!
  
  I have a locally attached printer on a Gentoo machine. I have a Windows XP 
  laptop. I would like to print from my XP laptop over the network to the 
  printer.
  I have followed the guide on gentoo.org. I've sort of got printing working 
  via Samba, but haven't been able to configure it for XP users to print 
  without having to login to Samba. So I'm looking back at using IPP on the 
  XP laptop.
  Anyway, the main question is, is Samba a preferred option, or is it just 
  more complicated than using IPP? There are a couple of brief lines about 
  printing via IPP in the Gentoo Printing Guide, but a whole separate guide 
  on using Samba. I can't find any information on use of IPP vs Samba via a 
  brief Google, but maybe I'm just not searching very well.
 
 I would think Samba would be more an option for when you already have a 
 Windows/Samba domain running for the network that everyone authenticates 
 through. Granted, as another poster provided, you can enable 
 public/guest access, which would make it like a Win9x/Me printer share 
 though XP should do fine with it.
 
 However, I think CUPS/IPP would be a better option. It's very easy to 
 configure (I just followed the Gentoo guide for it). And it makes it 
 very easy to install on any Windows system. If you have CUPS configured 
 properly, you can even have it provide the drivers automatically to the 
 Windows systems - I haven't tried that yet. It really impressed me how 
 quick and easy it was to install CUPS - both on other Linux systems and 
 on Windows.
 
 There is a Samba/CUPS guide, so I think you can even mix the two a bit.
 
 There is also one other issue to consider - AFAIK, the SMB protocol does 
 not do spooling - so you could get job conflicts, while IPP makes the 
 printer a true network printer running via a print server (e.g. CUPS) so 
 it has spooling inherent to it. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong 
 on this.) So you'll be safer using IPP. I have worked in environments 
 where printers were shared similarly - no print server - and it causes 
 problems when two people try to print something at near the same time; 
 the printer will ignore one job, or switch jobs in the middle - never 
 predictable what it would do, though I think ignoring jobs was what 
 primarily happened. It's a pain - and that's even with printers that had 
 built in network interfaces.
 
 Just something to consider.
 
 Ben
 
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As far as I can tell from reading the various bits of documentation, using 
Samba to share a printer relies on the local printing subsystem as well (eg 
CUPS as you mentioned), so it has no effect on the spooling capabilities of 
CUPS. CUPS is still providing the print service and spooling capabilities. 
Samba in and of itself doesn't provide any printing services. It merely moves a 
file from a SMB client to a spooling area and invokes the local printing 
subsystem 
[http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/classicalprinting.html]

IPP appears to be a more elegant solution, in that it is far simpler. I can't 
see any specific advantages of using Samba over IPP. I did seem to get most of 
the set-up for using IPP and CUPS working. The only issue came when I tried to 
complete the process of adding the printer in XP. At this point, the XP laptop 
seemed to hang and I could see no evidence of any activity on the Gentoo 
machine to suggest why it was hanging. I suspect I have missed something in the 
network settings on either the XP laptop or on the Gentoo box that led to 
something not being able to get through to respond to a request from the XP 
laptop for drivers or similar. In any case, as posted elsewhere, I seem to have 
got sharing via Samba working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fusion-icon

2008-03-19 Thread Danis Petkakis
root@ ~  equery l python
[ Searching for package 'python' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] app-admin/python-updater-0.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r9 (2.4)
[I--] [ ~] dev-python/compizconfig-python-0.6.0.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/dbus-python-0.80.2 (0)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/python-docs-2.4.4 (2.4)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/qscintilla-python-2.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] dev-python/wxpython-2.6.4.0-r1 (2.6)

should i emerge all of this again?? how can i tell if i have other python
modules
installed??

On 19/03/2008, birbilis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Re-emerge dev-python/sip and probably all the python modules you have
 installed (?). There must be a script for this though i don't recall it :|

 Στις Τετ 19 Μαρ 2008, ο/η Danis Petkakis έγραψε:

  hello there...yesterday i did a major stupidity of mine...i accidentaly
  unmerged python
  and borked my system...i managed to get my system back to work but since
  then
  fusion-icon doesn't work...here is what i get when running it from
  konsole
 
  jrn23@ ~  fusion-icon
   * Detected Session: kde
   * Searching for installed applications...
   * NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
   * Using the GTK Interface
   * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gobject/_gobject.so:
 undefined
  symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromObject
   ... Trying another interface
   * Using the Qt4 Interface
   * /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sip.so: undefined symbol:
  PyUnicodeUCS4_AsWideChar
   ... Trying another interface
   * Using the Qt3 Interface
   * Interface not installed
   *** Error: All interfaces failed, aborting!
 
 
  could someone tell me how to solve this?? after the crash and after i
  recovered python in order to get 'emerge' to
  work i did 'emerge -vNuD world' and then 'revdep-rebuild' and re-emerged
  fusion-icon...what else should i do??



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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 06:41 -0700, Grant wrote:
 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?

Well, it could be the cpu too.  Or a PCI card - I've had them render
computers useless until they're removed.  In fact, I recommend
removing everything (PCI cards, etc) but cpu, cpu fan, and one hd
(disconnect the ide cable) and then try to turn it on again.

Of course you also need to test the outlet - plug a light into it to
make sure your outlet works!

If it still doesn't work, you know it's either cpu, mb or ps.

If it's an old style AT power supply with a hard on/off switch you can
just plug in a couple of fans and turn it on.

If you have one of those new ATX power supplies that young-uns seem to
be using nowadays then its a bit more complicated!

Firstly you need some load.  If you're not sure about your mb, you can't
use that.  So you'll need at least a hard drive or two (I like using
cdroms, cause there's nothing much to damage, however they spin down
after a while) and probably a fan so you can see something spin.  Unplug
all connections to the mb (IDE cables, power supply, fans etc) so you've
just got the load connected directly to the PS.

Here comes the hard part: you need to find pins 14 and 15 and short them
out!  I recommend you unplug the PS from the wall (a switch is ideal),
short the pins, turn on the switch, see what happens for a few seconds
at most, then turn the switch back off.  Try not to use the plug itself
to turn the power on.  This is RISKY!  Make sure you get the right pins!

I've used this test a number of times.  Many thanks to
http://www.duxcw.com/faq/ps/ps4.htm for the ideas.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] I've hosed portage

2008-03-19 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:29:57AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:31:29 -0600, John J. Foster wrote:
 
  This was installed in an empty VM and it would be real slow to recompile
  all of Gentoo. There has to be a way to fix it.
 
 You could unpack a stage 3 tarball to a temporary location then copy the
 portage files over. If you have portage-utils or equery installed and
 working, you could use qlist or equery to generate a list of files to
 copy.
 
 Alternatively, as you are using VMs, begin a basic stage 3 install in a
 new VM, as far as being able to quickpkg portage, then unpack the tarball
 in the root of the broken VM.
 
Thanks so much Neil, option #1 worked just fine, followed by a
emerge -auvDN world
emerge --depclean
revdep-rebuild

I think what I did wrong in following the instuctions for repairing portage 
as described at

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml

was that I blindly just copied and pasted, thereby bringing in a way old
version. I'm not sure, though (probably more because of too much Patron).
But it didn't work.

Thanks so much for your help!

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-19 Thread Stroller


On 19 Mar 2008, at 13:41, Grant wrote:


A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?


Hi there,

I work on PCs for a living, mostly peoples' home computers, and in  
the case of a dead pc the cause is nearly as often something else  
as it is a dead PSU.


Causes such as a duff CD-ROM drive or a damaged USB connector are  
surprising but not uncommon, so reset the BIOS (using the  method  
described by Volker) and if that doesn't work unplug as much as  
possible from the motherboard - you'll surely need the CPU  RAM for  
it to post, but you may wish to swap out the RAM at some point in  
your diagnostics - and unplug most everything else. That means  
drives, PCI cards, USB devices, stuff connected to the USB  serial  
headers, graphics card if possible. Also don't connect the power  
supply to any of the drives, or anything else that you're not  
currently using.


I've seen cheap power supplies take out the motherboard when they go.  
Sorry if you find that to be the case.


Stroller.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] weird xorg/nvidia-drivers 169.09-r1 behaviour

2008-03-19 Thread 李刚
in your xorg.conf

In the module section, try adding the following line

load dbe

Then try to run conky from your terminal-emulator, does it say something
that

double framebuffer enabled?

Also,i found the conky in ~x86 portage a little of weird,

1. it displays my uptime very strange, a very very very very long digit,
something like 343434,

oh, my computer never run so much time without powering down

2. mpd is not working with conky, maybe this is a problem with mpd, but i am
not sure

hope this would help
On 3/20/08, José Pedro Saraiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Been using nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 without problems but I wish to upgrade
 to latest stable version, in a hope to reduce random suspend crashes I've
 been having with latest tuxonice-sources.
 The thing is... once I'm up and running with nvidia-drivers 169.09-r1 xorg
 and conky have this strange behaviour with conky window overlapping each
 time it refreshes.
 First screenshot is my desktop in it's normal state, 2nd one is the
 behaviour I'm talking about... The only window that always overlaps is the
 network section, and the conkyrc options are the same as for other conky
 instances.

 Anyone have a clue what may be causing this?



 Best regards!




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Re: [gentoo-user] weird xorg/nvidia-drivers 169.09-r1 behaviour

2008-03-19 Thread José Pedro Saraiva
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:02 AM, 李刚 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 in your xorg.conf

 In the module section, try adding the following line

 load dbe

 Then try to run conky from your terminal-emulator, does it say something
 that

 double framebuffer enabled?

Yup, i have dbe enabled and I'm running conky with double buffer support.
I have no problems whatsoever with older versions of nvidia-drivers

 Also,i found the conky in ~x86 portage a little of weird,

conky 1.4.9-r1* *is marked as stable for x86

 1. it displays my uptime very strange, a very very very very long digit,
 something like 343434,

 oh, my computer never run so much time without powering down

 2. mpd is not working with conky, maybe this is a problem with mpd, but i
 am not sure

I use audacious with conky and works like a charm for me

 hope this would help
 On 3/20/08, José Pedro Saraiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Been using nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 without problems but I wish to
  upgrade to latest stable version, in a hope to reduce random suspend crashes
  I've been having with latest tuxonice-sources.
  The thing is... once I'm up and running with nvidia-drivers 169.09-r1xorg 
  and conky have this strange behaviour with conky window overlapping
  each time it refreshes.
  First screenshot is my desktop in it's normal state, 2nd one is the
  behaviour I'm talking about... The only window that always overlaps is the
  network section, and the conkyrc options are the same as for other conky
  instances.
 
  Anyone have a clue what may be causing this?
 
 
 
  Best regards!
 
 


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