Re: [gentoo-user] Disable remote login for certain user

2009-01-16 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:28:07 -0800
Grant  wrote:

> Should I do that via an ssh config setting, in shorewall, or somewhere else?

I believe the right way would be to add 'account required
pam_access.so' line to /etc/pam.d/system-auth and define login
restrictions in /etc/securety/access.conf (it's also quite well
documented).

That way you'll block ssh/ftp/mail etc logins for that account, which
should also be prone to brutforce attacks because of weak password.

The catch is, of course, that you should have pam on your system ;)

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting Firefox website access

2009-01-16 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:59 -0800
Grant  wrote:

> I think this leaves a squid proxy setup as my only option?

Sorry, I haven't noticed the fact that there are machines behind the
firewall that need to be restricted, and aforementioned rule certainly
won't do that.

Squid setup should certainly be a solid solution to the problem.
It should also save quite a lot of traffic and speed up browsing via
common cache.

You can actually disable nat on the firewall if there are no specific
software requiments that can't work with http proxy, which are quite
rare, with the exception of games and p2p software.

And since you're using gentoo you can also pass rsync traffic through
a proxy. Rsync (as well as wget and lots of other tools) will use proxy
automatically if RSYNC_PROXY (http_proxy/ftp_proxy for other apps,
lower- and uppercase) env var is set.
For squid to pass rsync traffic you'll need to specify rsync ports in
squid.conf, like this:

acl SSL_ports port 873  # rsync
acl Safe_ports port 873 # rsync

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Re: [gentoo-user] Restricting Firefox website access

2009-01-16 Thread Grant
>> That sounds good, how can I do that?
>
> iptables module "owner" handles that stuff, just "man iptables" if
> you'll have any trouble.
>
>  iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner someuser -m tcp --dport http -j 
> REJECT

I brought this to the shorewall list for config advice, but I was told:

a) NO PACKET FILTERING FIREWALL (which includes Shorewall) has any
notion of domains. So filterinG by domain is a non-starter.

b) When referring to packet filters, filtering by user id (e.g., root)
can only be done for connections originating from the firewall. See "man
shoreall-rules" and read about the USER/GROUP column.

Here was my original request:

I'd like to restrict the websites one of the computers on my network
can access in Firefox.  It only needs to access 2 different domain
names and I don't want it to be able to access any others.  I can
restrict it at the router if necessary because the router is a Gentoo
system.

I think this leaves a squid proxy setup as my only option?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Disable remote login for certain user

2009-01-16 Thread Grant
One of the users set up on my router is for whoever is sitting in
front of the router and wants to log in.  For that reason, the
password needs to be simple and I'd like to prevent that user from
being able to log in if they aren't in front of the system since the
password is simple and should be easy to hack.  Should I do that via
an ssh config setting, in shorewall, or somewhere else?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: madwifi "Stuck beacon" causes mpd to skip

2009-01-16 Thread Grant
>> Whenever I get the following message in dmesg:
>>
>> wifi0: ath_bstuck_tasklet: Stuck beacon; resetting (beacon miss count: 11)
>>
>> the music playing on mpd skips.  Does anyone know more about this?
>>
>> - Grant
>
> I think this is fixed by downgrading from madwifi-ng-svn- to
> madwifi-ng-svn-3876.  Both are from the berkano overlay.
>
> - Grant

Had stuck beacon problems there too, had to downgrade to madwifi-ng
and disable SMP in the kernel since they aren't compatible when
madwifi-ng is in master mode.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-16 Thread reader
Dirk Heinrichs  writes:

>> I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if there
>> is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe some trick
>> syntax that can go in that spot?
>
> The build system does that automatically as long as you don't "make 
> mrproper", 
> see "uname -a" output.

No.. its not the same as what I'm talking about.  When you set the
item in menuconfig:
  General Setup/Local Version [...]

The string you set there  is appended to that actual build product
like vmlinuz-2.6.26-gentoo-$HOST

The vmlinuz that gets sent to /boot/ when you say `make install' is
named that way, along with the config-XXX and System-XXX that is moved
there.

Keeps things kind of tidy in /boot/ if you are mucking around with
several kernels.

What I asked was if there is some tricky syntax I could use on that
kernel setting that would do:  linux-2.6.26-gentoo-$HOST-N
Where N is an incremented number every time I build the kernel without
running `mrproper'.




Re: [gentoo-user] Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-16 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Friday January 16 2009 18:58:55 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> The build system does that automatically as long as you don't "make
> mrproper", 

You can backup .version




Re: [gentoo-user] Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 21:43:56 schrieb rea...@newsguy.com:
> In the first section during a `makeconfig' session, there is a line
> (the second one) that says:
>
>   Local Version - append to kernel release
>
> I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if there
> is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe some trick
> syntax that can go in that spot?

The build system does that automatically as long as you don't "make mrproper", 
see "uname -a" output.

HTH...

Dirk


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[gentoo-user] Append string on Kernel builds

2009-01-16 Thread reader
In the first section during a `makeconfig' session, there is a line
(the second one) that says:

  Local Version - append to kernel release

I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string.  I wondered if there
is any way to set a numericly incrementing string.  Maybe some trick
syntax that can go in that spot?




Re: [gentoo-user] Build failure hwinfo both stable and testing

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:04 PM,   wrote:
> I tried to install hwinfo today and failed with the latest
> ~hwinfo-14.19.  I couldn't make anything usefull of the failure
> message so backed off to the stable version 13.28.  I got the same
> failure so wondering if anyone can make sense of the (partial)
> output below.
>
> Does it mean this file is missing (i10_v86.o):
> make[2]: *** [i10_v86.o] Error 1
>
> Or do the earlier error message indicate something wrong in the code?
> Or something completely differnet?
>
> These pkgs were installed today... they were pulled in by
> hwinfo:
>
> Fri Jan 16 12:16:31 2009 >>> dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12-r4
> Fri Jan 16 12:17:22 2009 >>> sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0
> Fri Jan 16 12:17:48 2009 >>> dev-util/gperf-3.0.3
> Fri Jan 16 12:18:12 2009 >>> sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r1
> Fri Jan 16 12:18:26 2009 >>> sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10
> Fri Jan 16 12:18:35 2009 >>> app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g
> Fri Jan 16 12:19:25 2009 >>> x11-terms/xterm-239
> Fri Jan 16 12:20:04 2009 >>> sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.28
> Fri Jan 16 12:20:38 2009 >>> sys-apps/usbutils-0.73
> Fri Jan 16 12:21:32 2009 >>> sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2
> Fri Jan 16 12:22:03 2009 >>> x11-apps/xinit-1.0.8-r3
> Fri Jan 16 12:32:20 2009 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r1
> Fri Jan 16 12:32:53 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2
> Fri Jan 16 12:33:25 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.1.1
> Fri Jan 16 12:34:00 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-10.16.5
> Fri Jan 16 12:34:38 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0
> Fri Jan 16 12:35:20 2009 >>> dev-python/pyxf86config-0.3.34-r2
> Fri Jan 16 12:37:58 2009 >>> sys-apps/hal-0.5.11-r6
> Fri Jan 16 12:38:14 2009 >>> app-misc/hal-info-20080508
>
> 
> emerge hwinfo output
> [...]
>
> i10_v86.c: In function 'setup_vm86':
> i10_v86.c:104: error: 'VIF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> i10_v86.c:104: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> i10_v86.c:104: error: for each function it appears in.)
> i10_v86.c:104: error: 'VIP_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> i10_v86.c: In function 'run_bios_int':
> i10_v86.c:474: error: 'VIF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> i10_v86.c:475: error: 'IF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> i10_v86.c:486: error: 'TF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> i10_v86.c:486: error: 'NT_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make[2]: *** [i10_v86.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28/work/hwinfo-13.28/src/int10'
> make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory 
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28/work/hwinfo-13.28/src'
> make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
>  *
>  * ERROR: sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28 failed.
>  * Call stack:
>  *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
>  * environment, line 2092:  Called die
>  * The specific snippet of code:
>  *   emake -j1 EXTRA_FLAGS="${CFLAGS}" || die "emake failed"
>  *  The die message:
>  *   emake failed
>
>
>

I just emerged sys-apps/hwinfo-14.19 and it worked for me. I'm on
~amd64, default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2,
glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1, 2.6.28-gentoo x86_64.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: uvesafb - does it require use of initramfs/initrd?

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:33 PM,   wrote:
> Paul Hartman  writes:
>
>> I'm ashamed to admit I made the most basic mistake. I compiled uvesafb
>> as a module. Oops! Compiled it as "Y" instead of "M" and now I have a
>> pair of Tux sitting atop my kernel boot screen and no more 80x25
>> horror. :)
>
> Is there some difference in uvesafb and vesafb?  I've always just ignored
> the uvesafb choice and used plain vesafb.
>
> I just assumed from the name of it and the menuconfig help on it that
> it was something only usable in `userspace'.  I took that to mean
> after bootup.. something you'd do from the command line.
>
> Anyone here that can explain what the difference is.

According to the website:

uvesafb is a generic framebuffer driver for Linux systems and the
direct successor of vesafb-tng. Its main features are:

* works on non-x86 systems,
* the Video BIOS code is run in userspace by a helper application,
* can be compiled as a module,
* adjustable refresh rates with VBE 3.0-compliant graphic cards.

It also enumerates all of the supported modes when you cat
/sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes which is handy... no need for vga=0x382
or whatever. They are nice human-readable modes lik 1024x768-60 or
whatever.

You can also disable the framebuffer entirely or change modes from the
commandline once the system is up and running (maybe vesafb lets you
do that too, I'm not sure).

Now I just need to find a good consolefont that doesn't look
"squished" in 16:9 aspect ratio. Right now I'm using ter-112n (from
terminus-fonts) and it's pretty good but still a little too wide for
my taste.

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:59 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
[...]
> >>
> > If I'm not mistaken, comments #4 and #5 (the last two comments) pertain
> > to you.
> 
> Well, yes, but they don't say anything (to me) as best I read. Or
> maybe I don't understand how the folks that work in those areas talk
> these days.
> 
I believe what comment #4 is saying is that while,
sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.12 fixes the issue that version is not in ppc
stable.

I believe what vapier is saying, albeit crudely and tersely, in comment
#5 is that he did is job (which was to fix the bug) and if you need the
fix in stable then you need to file a ppc stabilization bug.  Presumably
vapier doesn't handle ppc stabilization bugs so he's passing the buck.

> Basically it seems it's broken for ppc, the folks in that thread
> understand it's broken, and then what? Those comments were two months
> ago.
> 
If the author of comment #4 hasn't already done so, I would recommend
that you file a ppc stabilization bug for baselayout-1.12.12.

> I'm lost.

HTH

> I went back to kbd-1.13-r1and the problem is gone but then another
> problem appears where it cannot map character code 0 to some other
> value. I've lost that message for now as I start MythTV automatically
> and cannot get back in the console becuase of X messages but it's in
> the bug system somewhere. I found it earlier this morning.
> 
Ok... but that's a separate issue...

> Anyway, I think the two sides (x86/amd64 && ppc) aren't consistently
> handled and that these folks know it but haven't fixed it for some
> reason. I only ran into it because of an update to a machine that's
> been gathering dust.

Not wanting to go in to a long discussion (too late for that I guess)
there is basically the "regular" dev folks, who presumably vapier
belongs to, and then there are the arch teams (the above is 3 sides,
actually; not two) who handle testing and stabilization on a particular
platform.  These are not always the same people and, as often the case
in the Gentoo development world, one side doesn't necessarily know/care
what the other side is doing.  Even between the arch teams there is
little "consistency" i.e. the x86 arch team doesn't care what's
happening in the ppc world.  Vapier handles the software, but he doesn't
necessarily mess with the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS variable. That's why he's
requesting you open another bug for that. 

-a




[gentoo-user] Build failure hwinfo both stable and testing

2009-01-16 Thread reader
I tried to install hwinfo today and failed with the latest
~hwinfo-14.19.  I couldn't make anything usefull of the failure
message so backed off to the stable version 13.28.  I got the same
failure so wondering if anyone can make sense of the (partial)
output below.

Does it mean this file is missing (i10_v86.o):
make[2]: *** [i10_v86.o] Error 1   

Or do the earlier error message indicate something wrong in the code?
Or something completely differnet?

These pkgs were installed today... they were pulled in by
hwinfo: 

Fri Jan 16 12:16:31 2009 >>> dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12-r4
Fri Jan 16 12:17:22 2009 >>> sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0
Fri Jan 16 12:17:48 2009 >>> dev-util/gperf-3.0.3
Fri Jan 16 12:18:12 2009 >>> sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r1
Fri Jan 16 12:18:26 2009 >>> sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10
Fri Jan 16 12:18:35 2009 >>> app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g
Fri Jan 16 12:19:25 2009 >>> x11-terms/xterm-239
Fri Jan 16 12:20:04 2009 >>> sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.28
Fri Jan 16 12:20:38 2009 >>> sys-apps/usbutils-0.73
Fri Jan 16 12:21:32 2009 >>> sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2
Fri Jan 16 12:22:03 2009 >>> x11-apps/xinit-1.0.8-r3
Fri Jan 16 12:32:20 2009 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r1
Fri Jan 16 12:32:53 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2
Fri Jan 16 12:33:25 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.1.1
Fri Jan 16 12:34:00 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware-10.16.5
Fri Jan 16 12:34:38 2009 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0
Fri Jan 16 12:35:20 2009 >>> dev-python/pyxf86config-0.3.34-r2
Fri Jan 16 12:37:58 2009 >>> sys-apps/hal-0.5.11-r6
Fri Jan 16 12:38:14 2009 >>> app-misc/hal-info-20080508


emerge hwinfo output
[...]

i10_v86.c: In function 'setup_vm86':
i10_v86.c:104: error: 'VIF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
i10_v86.c:104: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
i10_v86.c:104: error: for each function it appears in.)
i10_v86.c:104: error: 'VIP_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
i10_v86.c: In function 'run_bios_int':
i10_v86.c:474: error: 'VIF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
i10_v86.c:475: error: 'IF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
i10_v86.c:486: error: 'TF_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
i10_v86.c:486: error: 'NT_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [i10_v86.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28/work/hwinfo-13.28/src/int10'
make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28/work/hwinfo-13.28/src'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
 *
 * ERROR: sys-apps/hwinfo-13.28 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2092:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake -j1 EXTRA_FLAGS="${CFLAGS}" || die "emake failed"
 *  The die message:
 *   emake failed




Re: [gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Albert Hopkins  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 07:56 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> [...]
>> > A word of advice, when a bugzilla is resolved as DUPLICATE you should
>> > (almost always) immediately click on the bug that it's a duplicate of
>> > because that's where all the action is taking place:
>> >
>> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215496
>> >
>>
>> Actually I should/could have posted that but it seemed to me it didn't
>> say much of anything. I thought the one I posted had more info.
>>
> If I'm not mistaken, comments #4 and #5 (the last two comments) pertain
> to you.

Well, yes, but they don't say anything (to me) as best I read. Or
maybe I don't understand how the folks that work in those areas talk
these days.

Basically it seems it's broken for ppc, the folks in that thread
understand it's broken, and then what? Those comments were two months
ago.

I'm lost.

I went back to kbd-1.13-r1and the problem is gone but then another
problem appears where it cannot map character code 0 to some other
value. I've lost that message for now as I start MythTV automatically
and cannot get back in the console becuase of X messages but it's in
the bug system somewhere. I found it earlier this morning.

Anyway, I think the two sides (x86/amd64 && ppc) aren't consistently
handled and that these folks know it but haven't fixed it for some
reason. I only ran into it because of an update to a machine that's
been gathering dust.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 07:56 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
[...]
> > A word of advice, when a bugzilla is resolved as DUPLICATE you should
> > (almost always) immediately click on the bug that it's a duplicate of
> > because that's where all the action is taking place:
> >
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215496
> >
> 
> Actually I should/could have posted that but it seemed to me it didn't
> say much of anything. I thought the one I posted had more info.
> 
If I'm not mistaken, comments #4 and #5 (the last two comments) pertain
to you.






[gentoo-user] Re: uvesafb - does it require use of initramfs/initrd?

2009-01-16 Thread reader
Paul Hartman  writes:

> I'm ashamed to admit I made the most basic mistake. I compiled uvesafb
> as a module. Oops! Compiled it as "Y" instead of "M" and now I have a
> pair of Tux sitting atop my kernel boot screen and no more 80x25
> horror. :)

Is there some difference in uvesafb and vesafb?  I've always just ignored
the uvesafb choice and used plain vesafb.

I just assumed from the name of it and the menuconfig help on it that
it was something only usable in `userspace'.  I took that to mean
after bootup.. something you'd do from the command line.

Anyone here that can explain what the difference is.




Re: [gentoo-user] How do I change MSS separately from MTU?

2009-01-16 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 12 January 2009, Walter Dnes wrote:

> >   The only suggestion I've found via Google is iptables "mangle".  Does
> > it manage to change MSS without changing MTU?  If so, what is the
> > invocation in the "mangle" table?

> It would probably be something like:
>
> iptables --insert OUTPUT --jump TCPMSS --protocol tcp --set-mss 1408

Oops! I just checked the manual:
===
TCPMSS
This  target  allows  to alter the MSS value of TCP SYN packets, to control 
the maximum size for that connection (usually limiting it to your outgoing 
interface's MTU minus 40).  Of course, it can only be used in  conjunction 
with -p tcp.  It is only valid in the *mangle* table.
===

Then the rule can be set as follows:
===
iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN \
-j TCPMSS --set-mss 1408
===

If you have forwarding disabled on your box I would try the OUTPUT chain 
instead of FORWARD and see what this gets you.

> I think you can also set the advertised (by your machine) MSS for a network
> using ip route:
>
> ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 advmss 1408
>
> PS.  I am not sure if the above will break your connection because of
> dropped packets, or how it will interact with the MTU set at 1492.  In my
> case I have just set my MTU at 1492 to cater for the PPP authentication on
> my ISP's ADSL network.  I leave the MSS to be at what the kernel wants it
> to be - typically MSS = MTU - 40.

Hope this helps.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Albert Hopkins  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 07:24 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> Hi,
>>I've completed my updates of this older Mac Mini. The machine boots
>> and runs fine but there's a small problem in the boot console:
>>
>> * Loading key mappings
>> * /bin/loadkeys not found
>> ** ERROR: cannot start consolefont as keymaps could not start
>>
>>None of this occurred prior to the emerge -DuN world.
>>
>>I tried using equery belongs /bin/loadkeys but it didn't find
>> anything, There seem to be a number of bugs that discuss this which
>> are a bit beyond my understanding of what to do, like this one:
>>
> My loadkeys is in /usr/bin

Interesting difference. I'm setting up this Power PC based MacMini to
be a secondary MythTV backend server. My x86 backend server agrees
with you:


Sector9 ~ # slocate loadkeys
/usr/share/man/man1/loadkeys.1.bz2
/bin/loadkeys
Sector9 ~ #


MacMini ~ # slocate loadkeys
/usr/bin/loadkeys
/usr/share/man/man1/loadkeys.1.bz2
MacMini ~ #

That file seems to be supplied by kbd:

MacMini ~ # equery belongs /usr/bin/loadkeys
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/loadkeys in *... ]
sys-apps/kbd-1.14.1-r1 (/usr/bin/loadkeys)
MacMini ~ #

However the keymaps initscript comes from baselayout?

MacMini ~ # equery belongs /etc/init.d/keymaps
[ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/keymaps in *... ]
sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.11.1 (/etc/init.d/keymaps)
MacMini ~ #

It seems that my current mythbackend machine has an older kbd package:
Sector9 ~ # emerge -pv baselayout kbd

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.11.1  USE="unicode -bootstrap
-build -static" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/kbd-1.13-r1  USE="nls" 0 kB

Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Sector9 ~ #


>
>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232072
>>
>>I guess it's caused by some issue in baselayout and may be fixed in
>> a newer version. I can wait for the new version to become stable if
>> this won't cause any big problems but I cannot evaluate the severity
>> of this on my own.
>>
>>Comments? Can I leave it alone and not worry about problems?
>
> A word of advice, when a bugzilla is resolved as DUPLICATE you should
> (almost always) immediately click on the bug that it's a duplicate of
> because that's where all the action is taking place:
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215496
>

Actually I should/could have posted that but it seemed to me it didn't
say much of anything. I thought the one I posted had more info.

Anyway, I see the older version is in portage so I suppose I should
jsut go back to that for now?

MacMini ~ # eix -I kbd
[I] sys-apps/kbd
 Available versions:  1.12-r8 1.13-r1 1.14.1-r1 ~1.15 {nls}
 Installed versions:  1.14.1-r1(14:18:42 01/15/09)(nls)
 Homepage:http://freshmeat.net/projects/kbd/
 Description: Keyboard and console utilities

MacMini ~ #

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 07:24 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>I've completed my updates of this older Mac Mini. The machine boots
> and runs fine but there's a small problem in the boot console:
> 
> * Loading key mappings
> * /bin/loadkeys not found
> ** ERROR: cannot start consolefont as keymaps could not start
> 
>None of this occurred prior to the emerge -DuN world.
> 
>I tried using equery belongs /bin/loadkeys but it didn't find
> anything, There seem to be a number of bugs that discuss this which
> are a bit beyond my understanding of what to do, like this one:
> 
My loadkeys is in /usr/bin

> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232072
> 
>I guess it's caused by some issue in baselayout and may be fixed in
> a newer version. I can wait for the new version to become stable if
> this won't cause any big problems but I cannot evaluate the severity
> of this on my own.
> 
>Comments? Can I leave it alone and not worry about problems?

A word of advice, when a bugzilla is resolved as DUPLICATE you should
(almost always) immediately click on the bug that it's a duplicate of
because that's where all the action is taking place:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215496

HTH,
-a





[gentoo-user] /bin/loadkeys not found after emerge -DuN world

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I've completed my updates of this older Mac Mini. The machine boots
and runs fine but there's a small problem in the boot console:

* Loading key mappings
* /bin/loadkeys not found
** ERROR: cannot start consolefont as keymaps could not start

   None of this occurred prior to the emerge -DuN world.

   I tried using equery belongs /bin/loadkeys but it didn't find
anything, There seem to be a number of bugs that discuss this which
are a bit beyond my understanding of what to do, like this one:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232072

   I guess it's caused by some issue in baselayout and may be fixed in
a newer version. I can wait for the new version to become stable if
this won't cause any big problems but I cannot evaluate the severity
of this on my own.

   Comments? Can I leave it alone and not worry about problems?

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Bash & Server Sockets

2009-01-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 21:53 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In Bash /dev/tcp/host/port can be used to write to a TCP socket. This
> works nicely so I was very curious whether it would work the other way
> too: is it possible to have a Bash script listen on a particular port
> as if it were a server? I couldn't find anything in the Bash manual
> about it. Google does find a few examples but they all use nc. But
> that's cheating! ;-) Is it possible with just Bash, no extra tools?
> (If yes, please enlighten me as to how, obviously I could not get it
> to work.)

... and some would even say using bash to begin with is cheating.







Re: [gentoo-user] A circular dependency problem with notification-daemon and libnotify...

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Walters
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> The only amd64 ebuild of notification-daemon, 0.3.7, does not have a
> gstreamer USE flag. That's only present in the 0.4.0 ebuild, which is
> ~amd64. Are you trying to mix stable and testing packages?

No, at this point, I am using a full testing setup, since I want to pull in
kde-4 and its dependencies.  Everyone keeps saying how good kde-4 is, yet this
circular dependency is killing my ability to pull it in.

Regards,
Chris
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Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild dependency logic - please explain it to me

2009-01-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 16 January 2009 14:22:27 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 16 Jan, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Friday 16 January 2009 13:49:04 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm still struggling with the logic of dependencies in ebuild files
> >> e.g.
> >>
> >> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2.ebuild   contains  the line
> >>!avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
> >>
> >> This causes a dependency loop since I do have 'avahi' installed
> >> which blocks net-misc/mDNSResponder but other packages need avahi.
> >
> > It may be installed, but is it in your USE?
> >
> > The output of
> > eix -e kdelibs
> > would be useful here
>
> It's a bit strange:
>
> I have the avahi use-flag in /etc/make.conf

OK

> equery uses kde-base/kdelibs   shows the avahi use-flag

I find equery uses to give silly output. It is telling you that the ebuild 
looks at the avahi USE flag (i.e. it's in IUSE), not that it is actually 
active for that package.

> but eix -e kde-base/kdelibs  doesn't.

eix gives the output you actually want - it tells you which flags are listed, 
and is you have selected them or not for the package.

Most likely is that you have 'kdelibs -avahi' in package.use

Try these:

grep -r kdelibs /etc/portage/*
grep -r avahi /etc/portage/*

to see better what is going on




-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild dependency logic - please explain it to me

2009-01-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 16 Jan, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 13:49:04 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm still struggling with the logic of dependencies in ebuild files
>> e.g.
>>
>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2.ebuild   contains  the line
>>  !avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
>>
>> This causes a dependency loop since I do have 'avahi' installed
>> which blocks net-misc/mDNSResponder but other packages need avahi.
> 
> It may be installed, but is it in your USE?
> 
> The output of 
> eix -e kdelibs
> would be useful here
> 

It's a bit strange:

I have the avahi use-flag in /etc/make.conf
equery uses kde-base/kdelibs   shows the avahi use-flag
but eix -e kde-base/kdelibs  doesn't.

Now, unmerging kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 and reemerging it again
(from source - not from a package) seems to work but takes
some time on my slow machine.

Thanks for the hint though it's still a bit strange.

Helmut.



-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question

2009-01-16 Thread Alejandro
2009/1/16 Dale 

> Alejandro wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2009/1/15 Neil Bothwick mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>>
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:00:07 +0100, Geralt wrote:
> >
> > > > You don't need to remove anything, just let portage handle the
> > block
> > > > for you. Blocks marked with a b (instead of a B) can be handled
> by
> > > > recent portage releases.
> >
> > > are you sure that his works in this case? This blocking bug was
> some
> > > time before the new Portage went stable and back then you had to
> > > resolve it by hand.
> >
> > That's right, but now the new portage is stable so it is handled on
> > stable systems. The block was handled automatically when it first
> > appeared
> > on ~arch systems.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Bothwick
> >
> > Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?
> >
> >
> > Which version of portage do this? I am on amd64 stable and have the
> > problem a couple of week ago, and i don/t remember any portage update,,,
>
> I know portage-2.2_rc20 works well.  I have not had any trouble on mine
> and you may want to give it a shot.  It is still keyworded I think but
> it does handle the blocks very well.
>
> Your choice on whether to install or not.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> Thanks for th einfo! I will give a try...

Cheers!


Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild dependency logic - please explain it to me

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/1/16 Helmut Jarausch :
> Hi,
>
> I'm still struggling with the logic of dependencies in ebuild files
> e.g.
>
> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2.ebuild   contains  the line
>!avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
>
> This causes a dependency loop since I do have 'avahi' installed
> which blocks net-misc/mDNSResponder but other packages need avahi.
>
> Why does kdelibs-3.5.10-r2 try to pull in  net-misc/mDNSResponder

Because you have the avahi flag disabled for kdelibs?

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild dependency logic - please explain it to me

2009-01-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 16 January 2009 13:49:04 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm still struggling with the logic of dependencies in ebuild files
> e.g.
>
> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2.ebuild   contains  the line
>   !avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )
>
> This causes a dependency loop since I do have 'avahi' installed
> which blocks net-misc/mDNSResponder but other packages need avahi.

It may be installed, but is it in your USE?

The output of 
eix -e kdelibs
would be useful here


>
> Why does kdelibs-3.5.10-r2 try to pull in  net-misc/mDNSResponder
>
> This is with portage-2.2_rc22 .
>
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] ebuild dependency logic - please explain it to me

2009-01-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

I'm still struggling with the logic of dependencies in ebuild files
e.g.

kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2.ebuild   contains  the line
!avahi? ( !bindist? ( net-misc/mDNSResponder !kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi ) )

This causes a dependency loop since I do have 'avahi' installed
which blocks net-misc/mDNSResponder but other packages need avahi.

Why does kdelibs-3.5.10-r2 try to pull in  net-misc/mDNSResponder

This is with portage-2.2_rc22 .

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.


-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] A circular dependency problem with notification-daemon and libnotify...

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:27:12 -0500, Chris Walters wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone else was having this problem.  I am running
> an AMD64 arch, and when I try to "emerge notification-daemon", it will
> not compile because  libnotify is not present.  If I try to emerge
> libnotify, it tries to merge notification-daemon first, and I get the
> same problem.

> PS:  I was wondering if removing the 'gstreamer' USE flag from
> notification-daemon might fix the problem.

The only amd64 ebuild of notification-daemon, 0.3.7, does not have a
gstreamer USE flag. That's only present in the 0.4.0 ebuild, which is
~amd64. Are you trying to mix stable and testing packages?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"Bother," said Pooh, as the vice squad took his GIFS


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[gentoo-user] A circular dependency problem with notification-daemon and libnotify...

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Walters
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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone else was having this problem.  I am running an AMD64
arch, and when I try to "emerge notification-daemon", it will not compile
because  libnotify is not present.  If I try to emerge libnotify, it tries to
merge notification-daemon first, and I get the same problem.

When I run:
"emerge --keep-going libnotify", it will not compile because it depends on
notification-daemon.

More information to follow (I have to reboot to Gentoo, capture what I need and
send it to this OS).

Regards,
Chris

PS:  I was wondering if removing the 'gstreamer' USE flag from
notification-daemon might fix the problem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error message in Xorg.log for intel xorg driver

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Dale  wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Paul Hartman
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Dale  wrote:
>>>
 Paul Hartman wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Dale  wrote:
>
>
>> Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:35:11AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Wolfgang Liebich
  wrote:



> Furthermore yesterday I had a total lockup when I came to work at the
> morning --- could not login at kdm, kdm would ignore all keyboard
> input etc. I had to do a hard restart with the "Magic SysRQ" key
> (remount ro, hard reboot).
>
>
>
 Do you have evdev installed? Without it, you probably won't have any
 keyboard or mouse. Recent xorg made dramatic changes to the way
 hardware is detected/configured by using HAL and evdev. xorg.conf is
 basically unused now when it comes to configuring hardware. I don't
 even have keyboard or mouse, or video modelines or anything like that
 in mine. Search the list archives or the gentoo web forums, there are
 many many people who had the same issues (assuming it's the cause of
 yours).



>>> Evdev is installed, but I configured the kbd driver (I have a MS
>>> Natural Keyboard, btw --- what's the best driver for that keyboard?).
>>> I still have an xorg.conf (and I'm not very inclined to change it as
>>> long as it works :-).
>>>
>>> Furthermore -- after the reboot everything worked again as before. It
>>> seems to have been some fluke, but I want to know where it comes from.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Wolfgang
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Someone else like me.  I still have my xorg.conf and want to keep it
>> too.  I don't have evdev installed but from the way it sounds, me and
>> you may have to change in the future, maybe near future.
>>
>> I'm sort of wondering what pulls in evdev anyway?  I got a fully running
>> KDE and this is my new install.  Nothing pulled it in here.  I may be
>> missing a USE flag or something.
>>
>> Let's hope this works for a while longer yet.  ;-)
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You need "evdev" in your INPUT_DEVICES variable (mine lives in
> make.conf). In my case I have:
>
> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick evdev"
>
> and portage automagically built those packages.
>
>
>
>
 So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
 and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
 the case.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



>>> I don't know, for me it simply works as intended so... maybe I'll try
>>> to remove the keyboard and mouse and see what happens  :) but in my
>>> case my xorg.conf is virtually empty aside from some fonts and nvidia
>>> card options. My display and input devices "just work" without being
>>> specified in xorg.conf with drivers, modelines or any of that stuff. I
>>> changed monitors yesterday and simply killed X and it restarted in the
>>> optimal resolution for the new monitor. I've plugged different
>>> mouse/keyboard and it just works automatically.
>>>
>>> The HAL policies in /etc/hal/fdi/policy contain the same exact
>>> settings as xorg.conf only formatted a little differently... you can
>>> give device-specific custom settings if you need and I think
>>> everything you have done in xorg.conf can be done the new way.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I should say they CAN contain the same exact settings. It is up to you
>> to put them there :)
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'm curious about this now.  I run my monitor at 1280x1024 but it can
> run 1600x something.  Thing is, everything is so small, I can't really
> see anything.  Even the mouse pointer is really small, about the size of
> a pencil lead.  If I know where it is I can find it otherwise I have to
> push to a corner, then find it and go from there.  I need new glasses
> but can't afford it right now.
>
> If I can still run at 1280x1024, this may be worth trying out.  I would
> rather try it while the old way still works rather than wait until it
> doesn't and run into . . . issues.

Surely you can, the exact instructions depend on your video drivers
and desktop environment. I'm using  KDE 3.5 and it gives me an
exhaustive list of screen resolutions I can choose to use as the
default.

As far as the size of things, I have a 2042x1152 monitor and my mouse
cursor is "normal" sized, not as small as yours sounds. (no, I'm not
bragging about who has the bigger mouse cursor :P)

As far as everything being too small at the higher resolution, it
sounds like your DPI setting may not be correct. If it's set, things
shou

Re: [gentoo-user] Error message in Xorg.log for intel xorg driver

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/1/16 Dale :
>
> So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
> and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
> the case.
>

I don't think there is a fallback option. You can either use the new
or the old way. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

New way:

INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" in /etc/make.conf
build xorg-server with USE="hal"
configure input devices in an appropiate fdi file under
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/ instead of xorg.conf

Old way:

INPUT_DEVICES="kbd mouse" in /etc/make.conf
build xorg-server with USE="-hal"
configure input devices in xorg.conf

-- 
Regards,
Daniel



Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding dependent packages

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:37:20 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> The libavcodec library went from version 51 to 52, which broke
> transcode. The --deep argument did not find the dependency there and
> rebuild transcode. 
> 
> On my FreeBSD server, portupgrade has the -r and -R arguments to force
> rebuilds of dependent and reverse-dependent packages. Is there a way to
> have emerge do the same?

emerge @preserved-libs does that with portage 2.2. Emerge even tells
you to run it, and hangs on to the old versions until you do so, so your
system is never broken.

Revdep-rebuild is good for fixing things after they are broken, but the
new portage approach of not breaking them is much nicer :)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If at first you don't succeed you'll get lot's of advice.


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Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question

2009-01-16 Thread Dale
Alejandro wrote:
>
>
> 2009/1/15 Neil Bothwick mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>>
>
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:00:07 +0100, Geralt wrote:
>
> > > You don't need to remove anything, just let portage handle the
> block
> > > for you. Blocks marked with a b (instead of a B) can be handled by
> > > recent portage releases.
>
> > are you sure that his works in this case? This blocking bug was some
> > time before the new Portage went stable and back then you had to
> > resolve it by hand.
>
> That's right, but now the new portage is stable so it is handled on
> stable systems. The block was handled automatically when it first
> appeared
> on ~arch systems.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?
>
>
> Which version of portage do this? I am on amd64 stable and have the
> problem a couple of week ago, and i don/t remember any portage update,,,

I know portage-2.2_rc20 works well.  I have not had any trouble on mine
and you may want to give it a shot.  It is still keyworded I think but
it does handle the blocks very well. 

Your choice on whether to install or not.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:59:32 -0200, Alejandro wrote:

> > That's right, but now the new portage is stable so it is handled on
> > stable systems. The block was handled automatically when it first
> > appeared on ~arch systems.

> Which version of portage do this? I am on amd64 stable and have the
> problem a couple of week ago, and i don/t remember any portage update,,,

2.1.6 AFAIK, which contains some of the new 2.2 features. I've not used
it myself because I always use testing versions of portage, even on
stable boxes.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Error message in Xorg.log for intel xorg driver

2009-01-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Paul Hartman
>  wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Dale  wrote:
>> 
>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>   
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Dale  wrote:

 
> Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
>
>   
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:35:11AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Wolfgang Liebich
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Furthermore yesterday I had a total lockup when I came to work at the
 morning --- could not login at kdm, kdm would ignore all keyboard
 input etc. I had to do a hard restart with the "Magic SysRQ" key
 (remount ro, hard reboot).


 
>>> Do you have evdev installed? Without it, you probably won't have any
>>> keyboard or mouse. Recent xorg made dramatic changes to the way
>>> hardware is detected/configured by using HAL and evdev. xorg.conf is
>>> basically unused now when it comes to configuring hardware. I don't
>>> even have keyboard or mouse, or video modelines or anything like that
>>> in mine. Search the list archives or the gentoo web forums, there are
>>> many many people who had the same issues (assuming it's the cause of
>>> yours).
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> Evdev is installed, but I configured the kbd driver (I have a MS
>> Natural Keyboard, btw --- what's the best driver for that keyboard?).
>> I still have an xorg.conf (and I'm not very inclined to change it as
>> long as it works :-).
>>
>> Furthermore -- after the reboot everything worked again as before. It
>> seems to have been some fluke, but I want to know where it comes from.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
>>
>> 
> Someone else like me.  I still have my xorg.conf and want to keep it
> too.  I don't have evdev installed but from the way it sounds, me and
> you may have to change in the future, maybe near future.
>
> I'm sort of wondering what pulls in evdev anyway?  I got a fully running
> KDE and this is my new install.  Nothing pulled it in here.  I may be
> missing a USE flag or something.
>
> Let's hope this works for a while longer yet.  ;-)
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>
>
>   
 You need "evdev" in your INPUT_DEVICES variable (mine lives in
 make.conf). In my case I have:

 INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick evdev"

 and portage automagically built those packages.



 
>>> So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
>>> and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
>>> the case.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> I don't know, for me it simply works as intended so... maybe I'll try
>> to remove the keyboard and mouse and see what happens  :) but in my
>> case my xorg.conf is virtually empty aside from some fonts and nvidia
>> card options. My display and input devices "just work" without being
>> specified in xorg.conf with drivers, modelines or any of that stuff. I
>> changed monitors yesterday and simply killed X and it restarted in the
>> optimal resolution for the new monitor. I've plugged different
>> mouse/keyboard and it just works automatically.
>>
>> The HAL policies in /etc/hal/fdi/policy contain the same exact
>> settings as xorg.conf only formatted a little differently... you can
>> give device-specific custom settings if you need and I think
>> everything you have done in xorg.conf can be done the new way.
>>
>> 
>
> I should say they CAN contain the same exact settings. It is up to you
> to put them there :)
>
>
>   

I'm curious about this now.  I run my monitor at 1280x1024 but it can
run 1600x something.  Thing is, everything is so small, I can't really
see anything.  Even the mouse pointer is really small, about the size of
a pencil lead.  If I know where it is I can find it otherwise I have to
push to a corner, then find it and go from there.  I need new glasses
but can't afford it right now.

If I can still run at 1280x1024, this may be worth trying out.  I would
rather try it while the old way still works rather than wait until it
doesn't and run into . . . issues.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Error message in Xorg.log for intel xorg driver

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Paul Hartman
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Dale  wrote:
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Dale  wrote:
>>>
 Wolfgang Liebich wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:35:11AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Wolfgang Liebich
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Furthermore yesterday I had a total lockup when I came to work at the
>>> morning --- could not login at kdm, kdm would ignore all keyboard
>>> input etc. I had to do a hard restart with the "Magic SysRQ" key
>>> (remount ro, hard reboot).
>>>
>>>
>> Do you have evdev installed? Without it, you probably won't have any
>> keyboard or mouse. Recent xorg made dramatic changes to the way
>> hardware is detected/configured by using HAL and evdev. xorg.conf is
>> basically unused now when it comes to configuring hardware. I don't
>> even have keyboard or mouse, or video modelines or anything like that
>> in mine. Search the list archives or the gentoo web forums, there are
>> many many people who had the same issues (assuming it's the cause of
>> yours).
>>
>>
> Evdev is installed, but I configured the kbd driver (I have a MS
> Natural Keyboard, btw --- what's the best driver for that keyboard?).
> I still have an xorg.conf (and I'm not very inclined to change it as
> long as it works :-).
>
> Furthermore -- after the reboot everything worked again as before. It
> seems to have been some fluke, but I want to know where it comes from.
>
> TIA,
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
 Someone else like me.  I still have my xorg.conf and want to keep it
 too.  I don't have evdev installed but from the way it sounds, me and
 you may have to change in the future, maybe near future.

 I'm sort of wondering what pulls in evdev anyway?  I got a fully running
 KDE and this is my new install.  Nothing pulled it in here.  I may be
 missing a USE flag or something.

 Let's hope this works for a while longer yet.  ;-)

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



>>>
>>> You need "evdev" in your INPUT_DEVICES variable (mine lives in
>>> make.conf). In my case I have:
>>>
>>> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick evdev"
>>>
>>> and portage automagically built those packages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
>> and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
>> the case.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>
> I don't know, for me it simply works as intended so... maybe I'll try
> to remove the keyboard and mouse and see what happens  :) but in my
> case my xorg.conf is virtually empty aside from some fonts and nvidia
> card options. My display and input devices "just work" without being
> specified in xorg.conf with drivers, modelines or any of that stuff. I
> changed monitors yesterday and simply killed X and it restarted in the
> optimal resolution for the new monitor. I've plugged different
> mouse/keyboard and it just works automatically.
>
> The HAL policies in /etc/hal/fdi/policy contain the same exact
> settings as xorg.conf only formatted a little differently... you can
> give device-specific custom settings if you need and I think
> everything you have done in xorg.conf can be done the new way.
>

I should say they CAN contain the same exact settings. It is up to you
to put them there :)