Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:41:17 +0800
Chuanwen Wu  wrote:

> My gentoo worked very well in the past two years. But today I found
> that I can't login it from the terminal, but ssh login is OK.

If you have pam on your system, then it broken
'/etc/pam.d/system-local-login' might be the cause, as well as
user-specific files there.
And if that's not the case, try commenting out pam modules like
mod_access, which can add additional access restrictions.

Also, you can probably tell if pam is the cause of a problem by
commenting out all the required modules from whole authentication chain
(usually, commenting out everything in system-auth will do) - it should
allow any access w/o password, and it's probably not pam if it
doesn't... can't really think what else it might be, though.


-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi, thanks!
> If you have pam on your system, then it broken
> '/etc/pam.d/system-local-login' might be the cause, as well as
> user-specific files there.
> And if that's not the case, try commenting out pam modules like
> mod_access, which can add additional access restrictions.
which file has "mod_access" ?

# grep mod_access /etc/* -R
grep: /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/ssl/certs/5ed36f99.0: No such file or directory

>
> Also, you can probably tell if pam is the cause of a problem by
> commenting out all the required modules from whole authentication chain
> (usually, commenting out everything in system-auth will do) - it should
> allow any access w/o password, and it's probably not pam if it
> doesn't... can't really think what else it might be, though.
I have commented out everything in system-auth,  and still can't
login, although the result is diff:

/*/
This is Gentoo-Server.unknown_domain (Linux i686 2.6.26-gentoo-r1) 12:22:39
Gentoo-Server login: root
Last login: Thu Feb 12:09:24 CST 2009 from node07 on pts/0

This is Gentoo-Server.unknown_domain (Linux i686 2.6.26-gentoo-r1) 12:28:36
Gentoo-Server login:
/*/
Now it don't prompt the "Password:"

-- 
wcw



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:28:35 +0800
Chuanwen Wu  wrote:

> which file has "mod_access" ?

I have it in '/etc/pam.d/system-login', which is included for both
local and remote connections, but I could've added it myself.

> Now it don't prompt the "Password:"

Looks like the system is unable to launch a shell for some reason,
prehaps you can change it to something default, like /bin/sh, or just
something else if it's bash already.

Also, I'd double-check the logs - if something fails, there shoud be a
message about it. Make sure you have syslog daemon running and not
dropping any debug messages.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net



Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5.2-r7 build problems

2009-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:22:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > CFLAGS? The machine that fails:
> >
> > CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe" 

> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"

You have more aggressive flags on the failing machine, have you tried
using the more conservative (less ricey) flags?


-- 
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USENET: Uniting Spammers, Erotomaniacs, Newbies, Extroverts and Trolls


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:42:03 +0500, Mike Kazantsev wrote:

> Looks like the system is unable to launch a shell for some reason,
> prehaps you can change it to something default, like /bin/sh, or just
> something else if it's bash already.

Could it also be something in the bash profile causing the shell to exit?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down I was
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[gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread John covici
Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to current
-- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot I get
a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal /sys is
not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with the
exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to what
those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
> Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to current
> -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot I get
> a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal /sys is
> not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with the
> exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to what
> those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.

Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a directory
'/sys'? (SYSFS)
This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the kernel
configuration.

The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.

--
Joost Roeleveld




[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1710 (90678-90727)

2009-02-12 Thread daid kahl
>
> hi,
>
> after trying many time, i am again trying to install the gentoo on my
> macbook pro 4.1 . after pessing 2 days with it, still i have some problem:
> 1. sound not working (tried most of the solutions that available online
> 2. wifi not working
> 3. touchpad not working ok (two fingurs scroll working, but not the second
> click and not moving ok)
>
> anybody here using gentoo on macbook pro
>
>
I run Gentoo on a (white) MacBook v2, and with some exceptions (video card,
backlighted keyboard, network card, number of fans, something I forgot?),
the hardware is mostly the same to my knowledge.  In general, I have made
good documentation for how do install Gentoo on a MacBook, and it will be
online in a couple months.  I'm not actually that good with Gentoo, so there
may be easier or better ways to do the things I do, but I am able to use all
the MacBook hardware in Gentoo, so I'll tell you what I've done.  (This is
to say that respondants should be nice to me, because I'm not claiming this
is gospel!)

For the sound I did not have to do anything special for the MacBook, so I'll
just give a run down of the things you should do in general (which I also
did and found to work).  Make sure you've gotten alsa-utils and alsa-oss
from portage.  Then make sure to run alsaconf, and that the daemon alsasound
is started and in your default rc.  If you update the kernel, you'd need to
re-run alsaconf.  For my 2.6.26 kernel, I have these ALSA
configurations:CONFIG_SND=m;CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m;CONFIG_SND_PCM=m;CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m;CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y;CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m;CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m;CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y;CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y;CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=m;CONFIG_SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT=y;CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y;CONFIG_SND_VMASTER=y

For wifi I found that madwifi-ng in portage does not make wifi on my MacBook
work; probably it's user error, but maybe not.  But it's really easy to do
it manually, though. Just get the drivers with subversion and install them,
as follows:

$ cd /usr/src
# svn checkout http://svn.madwifi-project.org/madwifi/trunk madwifi
$ cd madwifi
# make
# make install
# ln -s /usr/src/madwifi /usr/include/madwifi

Now, for updates in the source code, we need only:

# cd /usr/src/madwifi && svn update

Whenever you install a new kernel, you need to go to /usr/src/madwifi and
make && make install again.

If your touchpad is working and you can two-finger scroll then I'm guessing
you got synaptics working, and now it's just an issue to set up specific
details.  xorg.conf configuration for synaptics is now deprecated, but a lot
of the documentation for Gentoo on MacBooks is outdated and suggests you to
do this.  I've been a bit lazy about the switch to doing things through
HAL's fdi policy, so some of my configurations, which I ported straight from
xorg.conf, might be deprecated or unsupported.  But in any event, my
touchpad works, including things like two-finger click, scrolling, and so
on.  You can see it here:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Synaptics_Touchpad/Configuration

In general, feel free to send me personal emails about MacBook questions.

~daid


[gentoo-user] DebugFS

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Somerville
I see that DebugFS is getting mounted very early on in the boot
sequence.

I want to keep it enabled in the kernel, but not automatically mounted.
What mounts it? How can I stop it?

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] DebugFS

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Somerville
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:29:43AM +, Mark Somerville wrote:
> I see that DebugFS is getting mounted very early on in the boot
> sequence.
> 
> I want to keep it enabled in the kernel, but not automatically mounted.
> What mounts it? How can I stop it?

In typical style, I solved it almost immediately after asking!

/etc/init.d/sysfs mounts it.

Mark


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[gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Zhang Jun
Hi list,

my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
testing and Gentoo on it,
from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,
and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,

I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:

#x86info
x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
Feedback to .

Found 2 CPUs
--
CPU #1
Family: 15 Model: 72 Stepping: 2
CPU Model : Turion 64 X2 (BH-F2)
Processor name string: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52

Feature flags:
 fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
pse36 clflsh mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht sse3 cmpxchg16b
Extended feature flags:
 fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
pse36 nx mmxext mmx fxsr ffxsr rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf/sahf
CmpLegacy svm ExtApicSpace LockMovCr0

SVM: revision 1, 64 ASIDs
Address Size: 48 bits virtual, 40 bits physical
The physical package has 2 of 2 possible cores implemented.
...
...


my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
"-msse3" in CFLAGS ?



Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 12:52 pm, Zhang Jun wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
> testing and Gentoo on it,
> from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,
> and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
> gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,
>
> I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:
>
> #x86info
> x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
> Feedback to .
>
> Found 2 CPUs
> --


> my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
> "-msse3" in CFLAGS ?

Hi,

I would suspect that for your CPU using "-march=athlon-fx" would be more
beneficial as your CPU has the x86_64 instruction set as well?

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Zhang Jun
thanks!
I'm new to gentoo,
I get the CFLAGS from gentoo-wiki(
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#Turion64_.2F_X2_.2F_Ultra
)
and I am using 32bit linux.

2009/2/12 Joost Roeleveld :
> On Thu, February 12, 2009 12:52 pm, Zhang Jun wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
>> testing and Gentoo on it,
>> from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,
>> and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
>> gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,
>>
>> I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:
>>
>> #x86info
>> x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
>> Feedback to .
>>
>> Found 2 CPUs
>> --
> 
>
>> my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
>> "-msse3" in CFLAGS ?
>
> Hi,
>
> I would suspect that for your CPU using "-march=athlon-fx" would be more
> beneficial as your CPU has the x86_64 instruction set as well?
>
> --
> Joost
>
>
>



Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 1:34 pm, Zhang Jun wrote:
> thanks!
> I'm new to gentoo,
> I get the CFLAGS from gentoo-wiki(
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#Turion64_.2F_X2_.2F_Ultra
> )
> and I am using 32bit linux.
>
> 2009/2/12 Joost Roeleveld :
>> On Thu, February 12, 2009 12:52 pm, Zhang Jun wrote:
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
>>> testing and Gentoo on it,
>>> from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,
>>> and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
>>> gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,
>>>
>>> I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:
>>>
>>> #x86info
>>> x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
>>> Feedback to .
>>>
>>> Found 2 CPUs
>>> --
>> 
>>
>>> my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
>>> "-msse3" in CFLAGS ?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would suspect that for your CPU using "-march=athlon-fx" would be more
>> beneficial as your CPU has the x86_64 instruction set as well?
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>>

Thank you for that link, I wasn't aware of it.
Please, for future reference, try to avoid top-posting, it makes following
conversations difficult.
Try to keep your replies at the bottom of the email.

According to that list, you need to add "-msse3" to your CFLAGS. Which
makes sense as "-march=athlon-xp" is actually for an older CPU which
didn't have sse3 support yet.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread John covici
on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
 > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to current
 > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot I get
 > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal /sys is
 > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with the
 > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to what
 > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
 > >
 > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
 > 
 > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a directory
 > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
 > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the kernel
 > configuration.
 > 
 > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.

The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
> on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
>  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to
> current
>  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot I
> get
>  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal /sys is
>  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with the
>  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to what
>  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
>  > >
>  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>  >
>  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
> directory
>  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
>  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the kernel
>  > configuration.
>  >
>  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
>
> The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
> mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.

Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
beginning later on.
Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
/etc/init.d/.. )?
It could be that something there is not set correctly.

For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.

Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
I have:
bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname, keymaps,
localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
Think these are the default ones.

Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Zhang Jun wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
> testing and Gentoo on it,
> from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,

I am sure there is. But it is called 'pni' - its original name.


> and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
> gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,
>
> I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:
>
> #x86info
> x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
> Feedback to .
>
> Found 2 CPUs
> --
> CPU #1
> Family: 15 Model: 72 Stepping: 2
> CPU Model : Turion 64 X2 (BH-F2)
> Processor name string: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
>
> Feature flags:
>  fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
> pse36 clflsh mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht sse3 cmpxchg16b
> Extended feature flags:
>  fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
> pse36 nx mmxext mmx fxsr ffxsr rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf/sahf
> CmpLegacy svm ExtApicSpace LockMovCr0
>
> SVM: revision 1, 64 ASIDs
> Address Size: 48 bits virtual, 40 bits physical
> The physical package has 2 of 2 possible cores implemented.
> ...
> ...
>
>
> my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
> "-msse3" in CFLAGS ?

no. Because it is called 'pni'.

How about this cflags:
march=k8-sse3 -O2 -msse3 (in case march gets filtered) -pipe
?
on amd64 fomit-frame-pointer isn't needed anymore.





Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread John covici
on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
 > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
 > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to
 > > current
 > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot I
 > > get
 > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal /sys is
 > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with the
 > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to what
 > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
 > >  >
 > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
 > > directory
 > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
 > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the kernel
 > >  > configuration.
 > >  >
 > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
 > >
 > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
 > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
 > 
 > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
 > beginning later on.
 > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
 > /etc/init.d/.. )?
 > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
 > 
 > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
 > 
 > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
 > I have:
 > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname, keymaps,
 > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
 > Think these are the default ones.
 > 
 > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?

I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
level I have 
bootmisc@
consolefont@
device-mapper@
fsck@
hibernate-cleanup@
hostname@
hwclock@
keymaps@
localmount@
modules@
mtab@
net.lo@
procfs@
root@
swap@
sysctl@
termencoding@
urandom@
in my sysinit I have
devfs@
dmesg@
udev@

-- 
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you spend it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng +bash history

2009-02-12 Thread Marcin Niskiewicz
2009/2/5 Willie Wong 

> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Penguin Lover Marcin Niskiewicz
> squawked:
> > It works fine (it writes history to history.log) but still it writes it
> to
> > those 3 files (debug , syslog, messages)  as well ...
> > so now everything I type is written to 4 files (debug , syslog, messages
> and
> > history.log) and I'd like it to be written only to 1 file.
> >
>
> If you have a filter rule that matches for history, why don't you just
> append "and not [insert rule here]" to the filter rule for syslog,
> messages, and debug?
>
> W
> --
> "This is just for cultural purposes, so don't panic."
> ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
> Sortir en Pantoufles: up 790 days, 13:07
>
>
Hello
thanks for helping me
as it seems the solution was easy - i had to put "flags(final);" parameter
and change a little order in config file and put:
log { source(src); filter(f_history); destination(history); flags(final); };
in the highest line in log section
and it works!

(the solution from syslog-ng group)

thanks again

regards
nichu


Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
> on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
>  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
>  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to
>  > > current
>  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot
> I
>  > > get
>  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
> /sys is
>  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with
> the
>  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to
> what
>  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
>  > > directory
>  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
>  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
> kernel
>  > >  > configuration.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
>  > >
>  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
>  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
>  >
>  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
>  > beginning later on.
>  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
>  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
>  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
>  >
>  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
>  >
>  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
>  > I have:
>  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname, keymaps,
>  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
>  > Think these are the default ones.
>  >
>  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
>
> I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
> will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
> wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
> level I have
> bootmisc@
> consolefont@
> device-mapper@
> fsck@
> hibernate-cleanup@
> hostname@
> hwclock@
> keymaps@
> localmount@
> modules@
> mtab@
> net.lo@
> procfs@
> root@
> swap@
> sysctl@
> termencoding@
> urandom@
> in my sysinit I have
> devfs@
> dmesg@
> udev@

Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the '/sys'
filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.

May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5.2-r7 build problems

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:22:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> > CFLAGS? The machine that fails:
>> >
>> > CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe"
>
>> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
>
> You have more aggressive flags on the failing machine, have you tried
> using the more conservative (less ricey) flags?
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick

I have not and intend to do that today. The flags have been set like
this since 2003 so I'm surprised that it might be something like this
but it's clearly possible.

I'm unqualified to say what part of the differences is making this set
more aggressive. Line by line what's your opinion?

-O3 vs -O2 ?
-march=athlon-xp vs -march=i686
-funroll-loops
-fprefetch-loop-arrays
not using -fomit-frame-pointer

I would think that I should be able to also make the flags more
aggressive on a passing machine and see the same failure, assuming
this is the root cause.

Strange taht after 6-years this would come up but stranger thing happen.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:44:15PM +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
> > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
> >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
> >  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
> >  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
> >  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to
> >  > > current
> >  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot
> > I
> >  > > get
> >  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
> > /sys is
> >  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with
> > the
> >  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to
> > what
> >  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
> >  > >  > >
> >  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
> >  > > directory
> >  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
> >  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
> > kernel
> >  > >  > configuration.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
> >  > >
> >  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
> >  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
> >  >
> >  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
> >  > beginning later on.
> >  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
> >  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
> >  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
> >  >
> >  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
> >  >
> >  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
> >  > I have:
> >  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname, keymaps,
> >  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
> >  > Think these are the default ones.
> >  >
> >  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
> >
> > I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
> > will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
> > wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
> > level I have
> > bootmisc@
> > consolefont@
> > device-mapper@
> > fsck@
> > hibernate-cleanup@
> > hostname@
> > hwclock@
> > keymaps@
> > localmount@
> > modules@
> > mtab@
> > net.lo@
> > procfs@
> > root@
> > swap@
> > sysctl@
> > termencoding@
> > urandom@
> > in my sysinit I have
> > devfs@
> > dmesg@
> > udev@
> 
> Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
> In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the '/sys'
> filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.
> 
> May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.
> 
> --
> Joost
> 
>

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258442

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thu, February 12, 2009 3:21 pm, Momesso Andrea wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:44:15PM +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
>> > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>> >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
>> >  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>> >  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
>> >  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008
>> to
>> >  > > current
>> >  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I
>> boot
>> > I
>> >  > > get
>> >  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
>> > /sys is
>> >  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work
>> with
>> > the
>> >  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as
>> to
>> > what
>> >  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
>> >  > >  > >
>> >  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>> >  > >  >
>> >  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
>> >  > > directory
>> >  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
>> >  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
>> > kernel
>> >  > >  > configuration.
>> >  > >  >
>> >  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
>> >  > >
>> >  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
>> >  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
>> >  >
>> >  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
>> >  > beginning later on.
>> >  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
>> >  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
>> >  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
>> >  >
>> >  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
>> >  >
>> >  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
>> >  > I have:
>> >  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname,
>> keymaps,
>> >  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
>> >  > Think these are the default ones.
>> >  >
>> >  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
>> >
>> > I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
>> > will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
>> > wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
>> > level I have
>> > bootmisc@
>> > consolefont@
>> > device-mapper@
>> > fsck@
>> > hibernate-cleanup@
>> > hostname@
>> > hwclock@
>> > keymaps@
>> > localmount@
>> > modules@
>> > mtab@
>> > net.lo@
>> > procfs@
>> > root@
>> > swap@
>> > sysctl@
>> > termencoding@
>> > urandom@
>> > in my sysinit I have
>> > devfs@
>> > dmesg@
>> > udev@
>>
>> Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
>> In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the
>> '/sys'
>> filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.
>>
>> May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.
>>
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258442

Helpful, but only if OP is using module-init-tools 3.6, which is currently
in unstable for all archs.

John, can you please confirm which 'module-init-tools' version you are using?

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5.2-r7 build problems

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Mark Knecht  wrote:

>
> -O3 vs -O2 ?
> -march=athlon-xp vs -march=i686
> -funroll-loops
> -fprefetch-loop-arrays
> not using -fomit-frame-pointer


I started by removing -funroll-loops & -fprefetch-loop-arrays and it
emerged fine.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)

2009-02-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tue, February 10, 2009 11:12 pm, Joshua D Doll wrote:
> Roy Wright wrote:
>> Mick wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Joshua D Doll wrote:
 Saphirus Sage wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069
>>
>> I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the
>> amount of patches contributed upstream...
> Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo
> servers. I
> don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute
> more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of
> one of them.
 This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu
 user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu
 community
 to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream?
 Without having to change distributions.
>>>
>>> Gentoo involves you more with what goes bad under the bonnet and the
>>> average Gentoo user is more interested in the workings of their OS to
>>> attempt troubleshooting it and filing bugs.  Your average Ubuntu user
>>> is less likely to get their hands dirty, unless they are a dev.  So,
>>> essentially we are talking about different user profiles here.  To
>>> answer your friend's hypothetical question - he would either have to
>>> change your average Ubuntu's user technical aptitude, or change the
>>> user.  Either attempt may mean the end of Ubuntu as we know it.
>>
>> The ubuntus are targeted at disgruntled windows users while gentoo is
>> targeted at unix users.  The former are used to complaining and
>> getting no response while the later know it's their responsibility to
>> help make it better...
>>
>> Have fun,
>> Roy
>>
>>
> I think you may be right with your assessment there Roy. The only
> solution I could up with was to change distributions he didn't like that
> suggestion, not sure why, because changing distros is like changing
> underwear. Maybe he has some strange fascination with Ubunutu's pretty
> color scheme?

Wouldn't the following solve that though?
# echo "x11-themes/gtk-engines-ubuntulooks ~*"
# emerge gtk-engines-ubuntulooks

It's currently at version 0.9.12-r2. I have not used this, so I have no
clue how well this works.

--
Joost




[gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Being on ~amd64 after syncing, 'emerge -pvDuN world' command 
shows plenty similar errors (for each qt-related package), one
of last ones is shown below.

How to resolve the issue?

x11-libs/qt-core:4

  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'x11-libs/qt-
sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 
'merge')
~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/', 
'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')  
(and 250 more) 



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:20:06 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

> x11-libs/qt-core:4
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by
> ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt- sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> 'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> 'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') (and 250 more)

It's the more that shows the problem. The lines here show packages that
are pulling in the latest version, you need to look for what is pulling
in the conflicting version.

My ~amd64 box just updated to qt-*-4.5.0_rc1 with no problem. There was a
problem with a missing patch file, but it appears unrelated and was fixed
by syncing.


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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Being on ~amd64 after syncing, 'emerge -pvDuN world' command
> shows plenty similar errors (for each qt-related package), one
> of last ones is shown below.
>
> How to resolve the issue?
>
> x11-libs/qt-core:4
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
> '/', 'x11-libs/qt- sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> 'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> 'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') (and 250 more)

mask all the qt 4.5 stuff. All of it. It will violently break everything.




Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > Being on ~amd64 after syncing, 'emerge -pvDuN world' command
> > shows plenty similar errors (for each qt-related package), one
> > of last ones is shown below.
> >
> > How to resolve the issue?
> >
> > x11-libs/qt-core:4
> >
> >   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
> > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by ('ebuild',
> > '/', 'x11-libs/qt- sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > 'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > 'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') (and 250 more)
> 
> mask all the qt 4.5 stuff. All of it. It will violently break everything.
> 

It didn't on my system...

BTW, for the OP, just need to enable USE=qt3support on qt-core.

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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Momesso Andrea wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > > Being on ~amd64 after syncing, 'emerge -pvDuN world' command
> > > shows plenty similar errors (for each qt-related package), one
> > > of last ones is shown below.
> > >
> > > How to resolve the issue?
> > >
> > > x11-libs/qt-core:4
> > >
> > >   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
> > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by
> > > ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt- sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > > 'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > > 'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') (and 250 more)
> >
> > mask all the qt 4.5 stuff. All of it. It will violently break everything.
>
> It didn't on my system...

it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making it 
impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt stuff - 
and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything again - and oh 
look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours of my life.



Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:44:46PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:25:49PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > > > Being on ~amd64 after syncing, 'emerge -pvDuN world' command
> > > > shows plenty similar errors (for each qt-related package), one
> > > > of last ones is shown below.
> > > >
> > > > How to resolve the issue?
> > > >
> > > > x11-libs/qt-core:4
> > > >
> > > >   ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') pulled in by
> > > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[qt3support,-debug] required by
> > > > ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt- sql-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > > > 'x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge')
> > > > ~x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_rc1[-debug] required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > > > 'x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_rc1', 'merge') (and 250 more)
> > >
> > > mask all the qt 4.5 stuff. All of it. It will violently break everything.
> >
> > It didn't on my system...
> 
> it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making it 
> impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt stuff 
> - 
> and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything again - and oh 
> look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours of my life.
>

Looking at kde's blogosphere it looks more like a kde issue than a
qt-4.5.0's one.

Anyway, I don't have kde on my system and qt apps run just fine.


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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 wrote:

> it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making it
> impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt stuff -
> and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything again - and oh
> look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours of my life.
>

Did you rebuild KDE or do you mean just running it after the qt build finished?

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

[...]
it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making it 
impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt stuff - 
and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything again - and oh 
look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours of my life.


I don't see a bug report about it.  Where did you file it?




Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread John covici
on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > On Thu, February 12, 2009 3:21 pm, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:44:15PM +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 > >> On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
 > >> > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > >> >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
 > >> >  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > >> >  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
 > >> >  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008
 > >> to
 > >> >  > > current
 > >> >  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I
 > >> boot
 > >> > I
 > >> >  > > get
 > >> >  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
 > >> > /sys is
 > >> >  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work
 > >> with
 > >> > the
 > >> >  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as
 > >> to
 > >> > what
 > >> >  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
 > >> >  > >  > >
 > >> >  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
 > >> >  > >  >
 > >> >  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
 > >> >  > > directory
 > >> >  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
 > >> >  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
 > >> > kernel
 > >> >  > >  > configuration.
 > >> >  > >  >
 > >> >  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
 > >> >  > >
 > >> >  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
 > >> >  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
 > >> >  >
 > >> >  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
 > >> >  > beginning later on.
 > >> >  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
 > >> >  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
 > >> >  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
 > >> >  >
 > >> >  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
 > >> >  >
 > >> >  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
 > >> >  > I have:
 > >> >  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname,
 > >> keymaps,
 > >> >  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
 > >> >  > Think these are the default ones.
 > >> >  >
 > >> >  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
 > >> >
 > >> > I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
 > >> > will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
 > >> > wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
 > >> > level I have
 > >> > bootmisc@
 > >> > consolefont@
 > >> > device-mapper@
 > >> > fsck@
 > >> > hibernate-cleanup@
 > >> > hostname@
 > >> > hwclock@
 > >> > keymaps@
 > >> > localmount@
 > >> > modules@
 > >> > mtab@
 > >> > net.lo@
 > >> > procfs@
 > >> > root@
 > >> > swap@
 > >> > sysctl@
 > >> > termencoding@
 > >> > urandom@
 > >> > in my sysinit I have
 > >> > devfs@
 > >> > dmesg@
 > >> > udev@
 > >>
 > >> Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
 > >> In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the
 > >> '/sys'
 > >> filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.
 > >>
 > >> May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.
 > >>
 > >
 > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258442
 > 
 > Helpful, but only if OP is using module-init-tools 3.6, which is currently
 > in unstable for all archs.
 > 
 > John, can you please confirm which 'module-init-tools' version you are using?
Its 3.6 -- I have gone to complete unstable on that box.

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How do
you spend it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread John covici
on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
 > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
 > >  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
 > >  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
 > >  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008 to
 > >  > > current
 > >  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I boot
 > > I
 > >  > > get
 > >  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
 > > /sys is
 > >  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work with
 > > the
 > >  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as to
 > > what
 > >  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
 > >  > >  > >
 > >  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
 > >  > >  >
 > >  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
 > >  > > directory
 > >  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
 > >  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
 > > kernel
 > >  > >  > configuration.
 > >  > >  >
 > >  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
 > >  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
 > >  >
 > >  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
 > >  > beginning later on.
 > >  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
 > >  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
 > >  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
 > >  >
 > >  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
 > >  >
 > >  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
 > >  > I have:
 > >  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname, keymaps,
 > >  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
 > >  > Think these are the default ones.
 > >  >
 > >  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
 > >
 > > I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
 > > will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
 > > wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
 > > level I have
 > > bootmisc@
 > > consolefont@
 > > device-mapper@
 > > fsck@
 > > hibernate-cleanup@
 > > hostname@
 > > hwclock@
 > > keymaps@
 > > localmount@
 > > modules@
 > > mtab@
 > > net.lo@
 > > procfs@
 > > root@
 > > swap@
 > > sysctl@
 > > termencoding@
 > > urandom@
 > > in my sysinit I have
 > > devfs@
 > > dmesg@
 > > udev@
 > 
 > Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
 > In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the '/sys'
 > filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.
 > 
 > May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.
 > 
I don't really need it, but it was auto added by the ebuild.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] strange error during boot

2009-02-12 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:52:20AM -0500, John covici wrote:
> on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 3:21 pm, Momesso Andrea wrote:
>  > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 02:44:15PM +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>  > >> On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:26 pm, John covici wrote:
>  > >> > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > >> >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 2:05 pm, John covici wrote:
>  > >> >  > > on Thursday 02/12/2009 Joost Roeleveld(jo...@antarean.org) wrote
>  > >> >  > >  > On Thu, February 12, 2009 10:52 am, John covici wrote:
>  > >> >  > >  > > Hi.  I just upgraded a gentoo system from about August 2008
>  > >> to
>  > >> >  > > current
>  > >> >  > >  > > -- including updating baselayout and openrt and now  when I
>  > >> boot
>  > >> > I
>  > >> >  > > get
>  > >> >  > >  > > a series of messages quite early in the boot modprobe: fatal
>  > >> > /sys is
>  > >> >  > >  > > not mounted.  Eventually it does boot and all seems to work
>  > >> with
>  > >> > the
>  > >> >  > >  > > exception of the script for my hsfmodem, but I am curious as
>  > >> to
>  > >> > what
>  > >> >  > >  > > those message mean and if there is a way to fix them.
>  > >> >  > >  > >
>  > >> >  > >  > > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>  > >> >  > >  >
>  > >> >  > >  > Did you include sysfs support to your kernel and do you have a
>  > >> >  > > directory
>  > >> >  > >  > '/sys'? (SYSFS)
>  > >> >  > >  > This can be found in: File systems / Pseudo filesystems in the
>  > >> > kernel
>  > >> >  > >  > configuration.
>  > >> >  > >  >
>  > >> >  > >  > The '/sys' filesystem is as important as '/proc' these days.
>  > >> >  > >
>  > >> >  > > The plot thickens -- by the time I log in after booting, /sys is
>  > >> >  > > mounted with the correct file system.  Still very strange.
>  > >> >  >
>  > >> >  > Hmm... so, something does solve the problem you are seeing at the
>  > >> >  > beginning later on.
>  > >> >  > Did you update all the configuration files (including the ones in
>  > >> >  > /etc/init.d/.. )?
>  > >> >  > It could be that something there is not set correctly.
>  > >> >  >
>  > >> >  > For now, I am assuming the issue is in the boot-sequence/runlevel.
>  > >> >  >
>  > >> >  > Can you check which services are in your boot-runlevel?
>  > >> >  > I have:
>  > >> >  > bootmisc, checkfs, checkroot, clock, consolefone, hostname,
>  > >> keymaps,
>  > >> >  > localmount, modules, net.lo rmnologin and urandom.
>  > >> >  > Think these are the default ones.
>  > >> >  >
>  > >> >  > Do you use an initrd? If yes, did you update this as well?
>  > >> >
>  > >> > I regenerated the initrd, but I am still using 2.6.20 kernel which I
>  > >> > will update soon, but I wonder if this is the problem -- something
>  > >> > wrong with the initrd, but regenerating did not fix it.  In my boot
>  > >> > level I have
>  > >> > bootmisc@
>  > >> > consolefont@
>  > >> > device-mapper@
>  > >> > fsck@
>  > >> > hibernate-cleanup@
>  > >> > hostname@
>  > >> > hwclock@
>  > >> > keymaps@
>  > >> > localmount@
>  > >> > modules@
>  > >> > mtab@
>  > >> > net.lo@
>  > >> > procfs@
>  > >> > root@
>  > >> > swap@
>  > >> > sysctl@
>  > >> > termencoding@
>  > >> > urandom@
>  > >> > in my sysinit I have
>  > >> > devfs@
>  > >> > dmesg@
>  > >> > udev@
>  > >>
>  > >> Do you have "device-mapper" in your boot-level?
>  > >> In that case, you might want to check which init-script mounts the
>  > >> '/sys'
>  > >> filesystem as this script requires the /sys filesystem to be mounted.
>  > >>
>  > >> May I ask why you have this added as I don't use it with my LVM drives.
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258442
>  > 
>  > Helpful, but only if OP is using module-init-tools 3.6, which is currently
>  > in unstable for all archs.
>  > 
>  > John, can you please confirm which 'module-init-tools' version you are 
> using?
> Its 3.6 -- I have gone to complete unstable on that box.
> 

Until the bug gets fixed, mask current version, do the downgrade, and
reboot.

The same problem happened this morning to a guy in #gentoo-it on
freenode, and was solved this way.

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Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5.2-r7 build problems

2009-02-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:20:28 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > You have more aggressive flags on the failing machine, have you tried
> > using the more conservative (less ricey) flags?

> I have not and intend to do that today. The flags have been set like
> this since 2003 so I'm surprised that it might be something like this
> but it's clearly possible.
> 
> I'm unqualified to say what part of the differences is making this set
> more aggressive. Line by line what's your opinion?
> 
> -O3 vs -O2 ?

Not much difference.

> -march=athlon-xp vs -march=i686

The former is better, providing you're using an AthlonXP.

> -funroll-loops

You only have to look at http://funroll-loops.org/ to know this is a bad
option...

> not using -fomit-frame-pointer

That's pretty safe, the frame-pointer isn't much use anyway if you're
compiling without debug symbols, which most build do by default.

> Strange taht after 6-years this would come up but stranger thing happen.

Indeed.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>  wrote:
> 
>
> > it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making
> > it impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt
> > stuff - and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything
> > again - and oh look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours
> > of my life.
>
> Did you rebuild KDE or do you mean just running it after the qt build
> finished?

both. With and without rebuilding kde was a crash fest.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > [...]
> > it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making
> > it impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt
> > stuff - and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything
> > again - and oh look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours
> > of my life.
>
> I don't see a bug report about it.  Where did you file it?

I did not file a bug because I found that it is a known problem of KDE.



[gentoo-user] emerge on new install has die "econf failed"

2009-02-12 Thread Joseph Davis

Hey Folks:

I am building a new system, and the install is done, and I emerged a few 
things, vim for instance, and they went OK.


Then I tried to emerge ntp apache samba postgresql php
and I got
---
ERROR: dev-libs/libpcre-7.8 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2345:  Called econf 
'--with-match-limit-recursion=8192' '--enable-utf8' 
'--enable-unicode-properties' '--enable-cpp' '--enable-pcregrep-libz' 
'--enable-pcregrep-libbz2' '--enable-static' 
'--htmldir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8/html' 
'--docdir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8'

 *   ebuild.sh, line  529:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  die "econf failed"
 *  The die message:
 *   econf failed

--
then I tried to emerge ntp alone and got:

-
* ERROR: net-misc/ntp-4.2.4_p6 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2099:  Called econf 
'--disable-linuxcaps' '--disable-parse-clocks' '--enable-ipv6' 
'--disable-debugging' '--with-crypto'

 *   ebuild.sh, line  529:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  die "econf failed"
 *  The die message:
 *   econf failed
-

If I need to post additional info, just let me know, I haven't done this 
before so I'll need a little tutoring.


Thanks - Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on new install has die "econf failed"

2009-02-12 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky

Joseph Davis написав(ла):

Hey Folks:

I am building a new system, and the install is done, and I emerged a 
few things, vim for instance, and they went OK.


Then I tried to emerge ntp apache samba postgresql php
and I got
---
ERROR: dev-libs/libpcre-7.8 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2345: Called econf 
'--with-match-limit-recursion=8192' '--enable-utf8' 
'--enable-unicode-properties' '--enable-cpp' '--enable-pcregrep-libz' 
'--enable-pcregrep-libbz2' '--enable-static' 
'--htmldir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8/html' 
'--docdir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8'

* ebuild.sh, line 529: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "econf failed"
* The die message:
* econf failed

--
then I tried to emerge ntp alone and got:

-
* ERROR: net-misc/ntp-4.2.4_p6 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2099: Called econf '--disable-linuxcaps' 
'--disable-parse-clocks' '--enable-ipv6' '--disable-debugging' 
'--with-crypto'

* ebuild.sh, line 529: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "econf failed"
* The die message:
* econf failed
-

If I need to post additional info, just let me know, I haven't done 
this before so I'll need a little tutoring.


Thanks - Joseph




You must see what package prevents emerging in previous messages in 
terminal near first "make [Error 1]" etc. When I tried to compile 
kcontrol for amarok, I have got similar messages until reemerging kde-libs.


--
Alexander Pilipovsky aka Engraver




[gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Stroller

Hi there,

I can find numerous references on the net to this behaviour:

   In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
   then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same
   column.  Very convenient.

EG:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-May/084540.html
http://hurley.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/vim-tip-comment-out-multiple-lines/

Yet it doesn't seem to work on any of my Gentoo systems.

Is this something that is caused by a Gentoo-specific /etc/vimrc or  
has vim evolved?


Any comments gratefully received.

Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky

Stroller ???(??):

Hi there,

I can find numerous references on the net to this behaviour:

   In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
   then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same
   column.  Very convenient.

EG:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-May/084540.html
http://hurley.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/vim-tip-comment-out-multiple-lines/ 



Yet it doesn't seem to work on any of my Gentoo systems.

Is this something that is caused by a Gentoo-specific /etc/vimrc or 
has vim evolved?


Any comments gratefully received.

Stroller.


Exuse me, but it works on my computer :) And thanks about this topic, I 
didn't know about this feature!


I selected region by Ctrl-v, pressed Shift-I and white selection 
disappeared, I pressed # and ESC and got this effect...

My vimrc:
scriptencoding utf-8
" ^^ Please leave the above line at the start of the file.

" Default configuration file for Vim
" $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-editors/vim-core/files/vimrc-r3,v 
1.1 2006/03/25 20:26:27 genstef Exp $


" Written by Aron Griffis 
" Modified by Ryan Phillips 
" Modified some more by Ciaran McCreesh 
" Added Redhat's vimrc info by Seemant Kulleen 

" You can override any of these settings on a global basis via the
" "/etc/vim/vimrc.local" file, and on a per-user basis via "~/.vimrc". 
You may

" need to create these.

" {{{ General settings
" The following are some sensible defaults for Vim for most users.
" We attempt to change as little as possible from Vim's defaults,
" deviating only where it makes sense
set nocompatible" Use Vim defaults (much better!)
set bs=2" Allow backspacing over everything in insert mode
set ai  " Always set auto-indenting on
set history=50  " keep 50 lines of command history
set ruler   " Show the cursor position all the time

set viminfo='20,\"500   " Keep a .viminfo file.

" Don't use Ex mode, use Q for formatting
map Q gq

" When doing tab completion, give the following files lower priority. 
You may
" wish to set 'wildignore' to completely ignore files, and 'wildmenu' to 
enable

" enhanced tab completion. These can be done in the user vimrc file.
set suffixes+=.info,.aux,.log,.dvi,.bbl,.out,.o,.lo

" When displaying line numbers, don't use an annoyingly wide number 
column. This
" doesn't enable line numbers -- :set number will do that. The value 
given is a

" minimum width to use for the number column, not a fixed size.
if v:version >= 700
 set numberwidth=3
endif
" }}}

" {{{ Modeline settings
" We don't allow modelines by default. See bug #14088 and bug #73715.
" If you're not concerned about these, you can enable them on a per-user
" basis by adding "set modeline" to your ~/.vimrc file.
set nomodeline
" }}}

" {{{ Locale settings
" Try to come up with some nice sane GUI fonts. Also try to set a sensible
" value for fileencodings based upon locale. These can all be overridden in
" the user vimrc file.
if v:lang =~? "^ko"
 set fileencodings=euc-kr
 set guifontset=-*-*-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
elseif v:lang =~? "^ja_JP"
 set fileencodings=euc-jp
 set guifontset=-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
elseif v:lang =~? "^zh_TW"
 set fileencodings=big5
 set 
guifontset=-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1,-taipei-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-160-big5-0

elseif v:lang =~? "^zh_CN"
 set fileencodings=gb2312
 set guifontset=*-r-*
endif

" If we have a BOM, always honour that rather than trying to guess.
if &fileencodings !~? "ucs-bom"
 set fileencodings^=ucs-bom
endif

" Always check for UTF-8 when trying to determine encodings.
if &fileencodings !~? "utf-8"
 set fileencodings+=utf-8
endif

" Make sure we have a sane fallback for encoding detection
set fileencodings+=default
" }}}

" {{{ Syntax highlighting settings
" Switch syntax highlighting on, when the terminal has colors
" Also switch on highlighting the last used search pattern.
if &t_Co > 2 || has("gui_running")
 syntax on
 set hlsearch
endif
" }}}

" {{{ Terminal fixes
if &term ==? "xterm"
 set t_Sb=^[4%dm
 set t_Sf=^[3%dm
 set ttymouse=xterm2
endif

if &term ==? "gnome" && has("eval")
 " Set useful keys that vim doesn't discover via termcap but are in the
 " builtin xterm termcap. See bug #122562. We use exec to avoid having to
 " include raw escapes in the file.
 exec "set =\eO5D"
 exec "set =\eO5C"
endif
" }}}

" {{{ Filetype plugin settings
" Enable plugin-provided filetype settings, but only if the ftplugin
" directory exists (which it won't on livecds, for example).
if isdirectory(expand("$VIMRUNTIME/ftplugin"))
 filetype plugin on

 " Uncomment the next line (or copy to your ~/.vimrc) for plugin-provided
 " indent settings. Some people don't like these, so we won't turn them 
on by

 " default.
 " filetype indent on
endif
" }}}

" {{{ Fix &shell, see bug #101665.
if "" == &shell
 if executable("/bin/bash")
   set shell=/bin/bash
 elseif executable("/bin/sh")

Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Stroller


On 12 Feb 2009, at 20:16, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote:

Stroller написав(ла):


Hi there,

I can find numerous references on the net to this behaviour:

   In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
   then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same
   column.  Very convenient.


...
Exuse me, but it works on my computer :) And thanks about this  
topic, I didn't know about this feature!


I selected region by Ctrl-v, pressed Shift-I and white selection  
disappeared, I pressed # and ESC and got this effect...


Blimey! I overlooked the instruction to use the  key!

Having recently made a resolution to take better advantage of vim's  
features I have only just learned selection using shift-v, so had to  
test again using ctrl-v before posting. I also tried both combinations  
using just "i" and also shift-I.


*slaps self*

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Alan
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:53:30PM +, Stroller wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I can find numerous references on the net to this behaviour:
>
>In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
>then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same
>column.  Very convenient.
>
> EG:
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-May/084540.html
> http://hurley.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/vim-tip-comment-out-multiple-lines/
>
> Yet it doesn't seem to work on any of my Gentoo systems.
>
> Is this something that is caused by a Gentoo-specific /etc/vimrc or has vim 
> evolved?

Couple of things to check:
 - you're running vim not vi or vim-tiny which has a bunch of behaviour
   removed.  Ensure that syntax highlighting works for example is what I
   do to make sure.  ESC :help will show your version also
 - ensure you're not running with the 'compatible' setting.  
ESC :set nocompatible
   will make sure this is off

Alan
 

-- 
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"Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers." -- Unknown



[gentoo-user] ibiblio dumps Gentoo distfiles to "save space"

2009-02-12 Thread Jerry McBride

Imagine my surprise when the nightly rsync of Gentoo distfiles with ibibilo 
resulted in my distfile repository getting totally deleted.  After a few 
emails wit the admins at ibibilo I finally got the answer that I was looking 
for... the truth...

>> Jerry,
>>
>> We are no longer rsyncing the distfiles due to space constraints on our
>> distributions volume. Gentoo's own instructions for setting up a mirror
>> recommend excluding the distfiles directory:
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml
>>
>> If you need these files, you could try the other mirrors listed on this
>> page:
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors2.xml
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Matt
>>

I promptly emailed back an offer of two new 1,000 gig drives if they would put 
the gentoo distfiles back up and... no answer

Guess they really don't care.

-- 

*
   
 From the desk of:
 Jerome D. McBride
   
   17:17:08 up 57 days, 23:24,  5 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.09, 0.02
 
*



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on new install has die "econf failed"

2009-02-12 Thread Joseph Davis

Alexander Pilipovsky wrote:

Joseph Davis написав(ла):

Hey Folks:

I am building a new system, and the install is done, and I emerged a 
few things, vim for instance, and they went OK.


Then I tried to emerge ntp apache samba postgresql php
and I got
---
ERROR: dev-libs/libpcre-7.8 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2345: Called econf 
'--with-match-limit-recursion=8192' '--enable-utf8' 
'--enable-unicode-properties' '--enable-cpp' '--enable-pcregrep-libz' 
'--enable-pcregrep-libbz2' '--enable-static' 
'--htmldir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8/html' 
'--docdir=/usr/share/doc/libpcre-7.8'

* ebuild.sh, line 529: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "econf failed"
* The die message:
* econf failed

--
then I tried to emerge ntp alone and got:

-
* ERROR: net-misc/ntp-4.2.4_p6 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2099: Called econf '--disable-linuxcaps' 
'--disable-parse-clocks' '--enable-ipv6' '--disable-debugging' 
'--with-crypto'

* ebuild.sh, line 529: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* die "econf failed"
* The die message:
* econf failed
-

If I need to post additional info, just let me know, I haven't done 
this before so I'll need a little tutoring.


Thanks - Joseph




You must see what package prevents emerging in previous messages in 
terminal near first "make [Error 1]" etc. When I tried to compile 
kcontrol for amarok, I have got similar messages until reemerging kde-libs.



I looked as you suggested, and this is what I found - I'm still clueless.

which: no gtkdoc-rebase in 
(/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lib/portage/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2)

make[5]: [install-data-local] Error 1 (ignored)
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/work/glib-2.16.5/docs/reference/gobject'
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/work/glib-2.16.5/docs/reference/gobject'

Making install in gio
make[4]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/work/glib-2.16.5/docs/reference/gio'
make[5]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/work/glib-2.16.5/docs/reference/gio'

make[5]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
installfiles=`echo ./html/*`; \
if test "$installfiles" = './html/*'; \
then echo '-- Nothing to install' ; \
else \
  /bin/sh ../../../mkinstalldirs 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image//usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gio; \

  for i in $installfiles; do \
echo '-- Installing '$i ; \
/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 $i 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image//usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gio; \

  done; \
  echo '-- Installing ./html/index.sgml' ; \
  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./html/index.sgml 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image//usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gio 
|| :; \

  which gtkdoc-rebase >/dev/null && \
gtkdoc-rebase --relative 
--dest-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image/ 
--html-dir=/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image//usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gio 
; \

fi
mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-libs/glib-2.16.5/image//usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gio

-- Installing ./html/GAppInfo.html



[gentoo-user] Re: qt-xxx-4.5.0_rc1 conflicts

2009-02-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

[...]
it turned kde 4.2 in a complete crash fest (starting with kdmgreet making
it impossible to log in). beta was bad, rc1 was worse. And yes, I rebuilt
stuff - and after that I downgraded to 4.4. and rebuild everything
again - and oh look not one single crash since then - took only 6 hours
of my life.

I don't see a bug report about it.  Where did you file it?


I did not file a bug because I found that it is a known problem of KDE.


Hmm. No crashes here yet.

Is it just me, or do fonts look somehow different with Qt 4.5? Not worse 
nor better. Just different. Or maybe it's my eyes playing tricks.





Re: [gentoo-user] ibiblio dumps Gentoo distfiles to "save space"

2009-02-12 Thread Saphirus Sage



On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Jerry McBride   
wrote:




Imagine my surprise when the nightly rsync of Gentoo distfiles with  
ibibilo
resulted in my distfile repository getting totally deleted.  After a  
few
emails wit the admins at ibibilo I finally got the answer that I was  
looking

for... the truth...


Jerry,

We are no longer rsyncing the distfiles due to space constraints  
on our
distributions volume. Gentoo's own instructions for setting up a  
mirror

recommend excluding the distfiles directory:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml

If you need these files, you could try the other mirrors listed on  
this

page:

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors2.xml

Best,

Matt



I promptly emailed back an offer of two new 1,000 gig drives if they  
would put

the gentoo distfiles back up and... no answer

Guess they really don't care.

--

*** 
*** 
*** 



From the desk of:
Jerome D. McBride

  17:17:08 up 57 days, 23:24,  5 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.09,  
0.02


*** 
*** 
*** 



There are quite a few mirrors available to sync from; so one's dropped  
support, it's a drop in the bucket. I'll admit, "space concerns" seem  
to be a bit odd of a complaint, maybe it was more along the lines of  
hosting fees? After all, a distribution server isn't exactly a low- 
bandwidth operation. 



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge on new install has die "econf failed"

2009-02-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:36:31 -0600
Joseph Davis  wrote:

> I looked as you suggested, and this is what I found - I'm still clueless.
> 
> which: no gtkdoc-rebase in 
> (/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lib/portage/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2)
> make[5]: [install-data-local] Error 1 (ignored)

Looks like non-critical error to me, something else probably happened
even before that one.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Philip Webb
090212 Stroller quoted:
>  In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
>  then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same column.

If you want to comment a series of lines  m-n , it's quicker to do :

  :m,ns/^/#/

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Turion64x2 CFLAGS

2009-02-12 Thread Zhang Jun
2009/2/12 Volker Armin Hemmann :
> On Donnerstag 12 Februar 2009, Zhang Jun wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> my laptop's cpu is AMD Turion64x2, I've installed both 32bits Debian
>> testing and Gentoo on it,
>> from Debian there is no SSE3 in /proc/cpuinfo,
>
> I am sure there is. But it is called 'pni' - its original name.
>
>
>> and I used CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" on
>> gentoo,  and I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo also,
>>
>> I emerged x86info, and SSE3 is in its output:
>>
>> #x86info
>> x86info v1.21.  Dave Jones 2001-2007
>> Feedback to .
>>
>> Found 2 CPUs
>> --
>> CPU #1
>> Family: 15 Model: 72 Stepping: 2
>> CPU Model : Turion 64 X2 (BH-F2)
>> Processor name string: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
>>
>> Feature flags:
>>  fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
>> pse36 clflsh mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht sse3 cmpxchg16b
>> Extended feature flags:
>>  fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
>> pse36 nx mmxext mmx fxsr ffxsr rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf/sahf
>> CmpLegacy svm ExtApicSpace LockMovCr0
>>
>> SVM: revision 1, 64 ASIDs
>> Address Size: 48 bits virtual, 40 bits physical
>> The physical package has 2 of 2 possible cores implemented.
>> ...
>> ...
>>
>>
>> my question is:  I can not see SSE3 in cpuinfo because I did not use
>> "-msse3" in CFLAGS ?
>
> no. Because it is called 'pni'.
>
> How about this cflags:
> march=k8-sse3 -O2 -msse3 (in case march gets filtered) -pipe
> ?
> on amd64 fomit-frame-pointer isn't needed anymore.
>
>
>
>



thanks, I will add sse3 in my make.conf



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi, thanks!
> Looks like the system is unable to launch a shell for some reason,
> prehaps you can change it to something default, like /bin/sh, or just
> something else if it's bash already.
Could you please give more details? How to change it to something default?

>
> Also, I'd double-check the logs - if something fails, there shoud be a
> message about it. Make sure you have syslog daemon running and not
> dropping any debug messages.
I have checked the /var/log/faillog, which I'm not sure whether it's
the right log file, and seems it only contain binary data(I read it
from "vi /var/log/faillog").

-- 
wcw



Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Stroller


On 13 Feb 2009, at 00:53, Philip Webb wrote:


090212 Stroller quoted:

In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same  
column.


If you want to comment a series of lines  m-n , it's quicker to do :

 :m,ns/^/#/


I saw similar comments in my Google searches, but I am flummoxed how  
one could find it so.


Is it only on my keyboard that forward-slash is a "lower-case"  
character that is accessed *without* the shift key deployed?


How do you know m & n? Surely it's easier just to highlight the lines?

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] ibiblio dumps Gentoo distfiles to "save space"

2009-02-12 Thread Stroller


On 12 Feb 2009, at 22:23, Jerry McBride wrote:

...
I promptly emailed back an offer of two new 1,000 gig drives if they  
would put

the gentoo distfiles back up and... no answer

Guess they really don't care.


Is distfiles not all stuff that one would normally get from (for  
example) SourceForge & its mirrors, anyway?


The docs do seem to clearly indicate that distfiles should be omitted.

Considering the cost of 1TB SCSI drives your offer was remarkably  
generous - I will be glad to take these disk off your hands if no-one  
else will. ;)


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] ibiblio dumps Gentoo distfiles to "save space"

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 20:23, Jerry McBride  wrote:
>
> Imagine my surprise when the nightly rsync of Gentoo distfiles with ibibilo
> resulted in my distfile repository getting totally deleted.  After a few
> emails wit the admins at ibibilo I finally got the answer that I was looking
> for... the truth...
>
>>> Jerry,
>>>
>>> We are no longer rsyncing the distfiles due to space constraints on our
>>> distributions volume. Gentoo's own instructions for setting up a mirror
>>> recommend excluding the distfiles directory:
>>>
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml
>>>
>>> If you need these files, you could try the other mirrors listed on this
>>> page:
>>>
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors2.xml
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>
> I promptly emailed back an offer of two new 1,000 gig drives if they would put
> the gentoo distfiles back up and... no answer
>
> Guess they really don't care.
>

Isn't default portage behavior NOT to sync distfiles? Some distfiles
are hosted on mirrors not related to gentoo, others have no mirrors at
all, leaving a single server to download from, so, I can't think of a
reason to sync this specific folder, other than being a mirror
yourself (is that the case?).

-- 
Daniel da Veiga



Re: [gentoo-user] Commenting out multiple lines in vim

2009-02-12 Thread Eray Aslan
On 13.02.2009 07:48, Stroller wrote:
> On 13 Feb 2009, at 00:53, Philip Webb wrote:
>> 090212 Stroller quoted:
>>> In vim, you can just select the rectangular region with Ctrl-v,
>>> then type "I#".  This will insert # in each line at the same
>>> column.
>>
>> If you want to comment a series of lines  m-n , it's quicker to do :
>>
>>  :m,ns/^/#/
> 
> I saw similar comments in my Google searches, but I am flummoxed how one
> could find it so.
> 
> Is it only on my keyboard that forward-slash is a "lower-case" character
> that is accessed *without* the shift key deployed?
> 
> How do you know m & n?

Column and line numbers are shown on the lower right part of the screen.

> Surely it's easier just to highlight the lines?

Not when you are working with the keyboard most of the time.  Taking
your hands off the keyboard to use the mouse is time consuming and
becomes rather annoying.

-- 
Eray



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:15:12 +0800
Chuanwen Wu  wrote:

> Could you please give more details? How to change it to something
> default?

Well, that's pretty much the basics...
Shells for each system user are defined in /etc/passwd, which should be
edited by 'vipw' command.

What I've meant is the case, when you, or something else changed
'/etc/passwd', replacing '/bin/bash' with something like
'/sbin/nologin' or some other path, which is not a valid shell.

Actually, ssh shouldn't work with invalid shell like that as well, but
one, for example, can add some commands to ".bashrc" which will work
only in ssh environment (using some env vars, set by ssh, for example).

Then, there might be some ssh-only shell, so I'd suggest to set shell
to '/bin/sh' (which is actually bash, for gentoo) and disable all the
configs it's using, like '~/.bashrc' or '/etc/bashrc' (see 'man bash',
for full list).
Also, Neil has made a good point that there might be something
in /etc/profile, which is usually sourced by all bash-like shells.


> I have checked the /var/log/faillog, which I'm not sure whether it's
> the right log file, and seems it only contain binary data(I read it
> from "vi /var/log/faillog").

Syslog usually uses '/var/log/messages' as a collector for everything
that is being sent to it, so I'd check that file first. And make sure
the timestamps there are recent - it should mean that syslog is writing
to it and is not dead.
'dmesg' command is usually a good source for failure messages too, but
only on kernel level (when something really nasty happens). There might
be some segfaults, produced by your shell, and usually indicate
programming or compilation errors.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login from terminal?

2009-02-12 Thread Chuanwen Wu
HI, thanks!

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Mike Kazantsev
 wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:15:12 +0800
> Chuanwen Wu  wrote:
>
>> Could you please give more details? How to change it to something
>> default?
>
> Well, that's pretty much the basics...
> Shells for each system user are defined in /etc/passwd, which should be
> edited by 'vipw' command.
>
> What I've meant is the case, when you, or something else changed
> '/etc/passwd', replacing '/bin/bash' with something like
> '/sbin/nologin' or some other path, which is not a valid shell.
Hi, here is the root infomation in my /etc/passwd:

root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash

>
> Actually, ssh shouldn't work with invalid shell like that as well, but
> one, for example, can add some commands to ".bashrc" which will work
> only in ssh environment (using some env vars, set by ssh, for example).
>
> Then, there might be some ssh-only shell, so I'd suggest to set shell
> to '/bin/sh' (which is actually bash, for gentoo) and disable all the
> configs it's using, like '~/.bashrc' or '/etc/bashrc' (see 'man bash',
> for full list).
In the /root, there is no .bashrc, and in other users' home, the
.bashrc is normal:
/***
$ cat /home/wcw/.bashrc
# /etc/skel/.bashrc
#
# This file is sourced by all *interactive* bash shells on startup,
# including some apparently interactive shells such as scp and rcp
# that can't tolerate any output.  So make sure this doesn't display
# anything or bad things will happen !


# Test for an interactive shell.  There is no need to set anything
# past this point for scp and rcp, and it's important to refrain from
# outputting anything in those cases.
if [[ $- != *i* ]] ; then
# Shell is non-interactive.  Be done now!
return
fi


# Put your fun stuff here.
/*/

> Also, Neil has made a good point that there might be something
> in /etc/profile, which is usually sourced by all bash-like shells.
Here is my /etc/profile, which I think is normal, too:
/*/
# cat /etc/profile
# /etc/profile: login shell setup
#
# That this file is used by any Bourne-shell derivative to setup the
# environment for login shells.
#

# Load environment settings from profile.env, which is created by
# env-update from the files in /etc/env.d
if [ -e /etc/profile.env ] ; then
. /etc/profile.env
fi

# 077 would be more secure, but 022 is generally quite realistic
umask 022

# Set up PATH depending on whether we're root or a normal user.
# There's no real reason to exclude sbin paths from the normal user,
# but it can make tab-completion easier when they aren't in the
# user's PATH to pollute the executable namespace.
#
# It is intentional in the following line to use || instead of -o.
# This way the evaluation can be short-circuited and calling whoami is
# avoided.
if [ "$EUID" = "0" ] || [ "$USER" = "root" ] ; then

PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:${ROOTPATH}"
else
PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:${PATH}"
fi
export PATH
unset ROOTPATH

# Extract the value of EDITOR
[ -z "$EDITOR" ] && EDITOR="`. /etc/rc.conf 2>/dev/null; echo $EDITOR`"
[ -z "$EDITOR" ] && EDITOR="/bin/nano"
export EDITOR

if [ -n "${BASH_VERSION}" ] ; then
# Newer bash ebuilds include /etc/bash/bashrc which will setup PS1
# including color.  We leave out color here because not all
# terminals support it.
if [ -f /etc/bash/bashrc ] ; then
# Bash login shells run only /etc/profile
# Bash non-login shells run only /etc/bash/bashrc
# Since we want to run /etc/bash/bashrc regardless, we source it
# from here.  It is unfortunate that there is no way to do
# this *after* the user's .bash_profile runs (without putting
# it in the user's dot-files), but it shouldn't make any
# difference.
. /etc/bash/bashrc
else
PS1='\...@\h \w \$ '
fi
else
# Setup a bland default prompt.  Since this prompt should be useable
# on color and non-color terminals, as well as shells that don't
# understand sequences such as \h, don't put anything special in it.
PS1="`whoa...@`uname -n | cut -f1 -d.` \$ "
fi

for sh in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do
if [ -r "$sh" ] ; then
. "$sh"
fi
done
unset sh
/*/
>
> Syslog usually uses '/var/log/messages' as a collector for everything
> that is being sent to it, so I'd check that file first. And make sure
> the timestamps there are recent - it should mean that syslog is writing
> to it and is not dead.
I got the login information below from the tail of /var/log/messages:
//
Feb 13 15:47:18 Gentoo-F304-Server login[5735]:
pam_unix(login:se