Re: [gentoo-user] nfs over (lvm over nbd) ?
On Wed, 13 May 2009 01:58:18 +0200, Raph wrote: > I never did such a setup but already see a couple of > problems : > - each client need some private HD space to, at least, > boot enough to let the NBD daemon start. That's not a problem. Install the OS as usual and mount /home over the network. > - $10 question : if 20 users login, will the ethernet > be fast enough to support the load ? That depends on how fast the network is and what the users are doing. A bigger question is what happens if one computer goes down? I suspect your whole LVM could fail. This seem s an unnecessarily complex approach. What's wrong with creating each user's home directory on one computer and exporting it to the others over NFS? If each user has a preferred workstation, this will also reduce network usage. -- Neil Bothwick I thought I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... but it was just some sod with a torch bringing me more work! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel
> My Gentoo laptop is a Macbook Pro SantaRosa (late 2007, probably > MA896LL/A , following wikipedia). Since I use it for work I've always > been quite conservative with it... it is an x86 machine and I upgrade > things only after having read things here and there on the ML and > possibly elsewhere (Still have to upgrade xorg, for example, > will do it > soon). > > The oldest piece I haven't touched is the kernel. It is 2.6.24-rc6 > vanilla-sources, which were the first mostly working with the > laptop... and never touched since. > > Now I want to ask the list: > 1) Does anyone have a recent kernel config for this kind of machine? Just copy your .config file to the new kernel source directory and run "make oldconfig". This runs through the old config file and prompts you to select what you want for the new options. > 2) What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of > when upgrading to latest kernel? I confess that reading CHANGELOGs didn't > help me too > much, quite confusing. You can keep both kernels and just use the bootloader to select which one to boot into. So if your new kernel doesn't work just reboot and use your old kernel again until you can work out whats wrong with the new one. The biggest risk is that there are two ATA options one names disks sdX the other hdX. If you're already using sdX in your /etc/fstab then you have no problems. If not, and you change options you'll need to change your bootloader and fstab, and if you have a problem you'll have to boot from cdrom to fix that. > Also, I wonder if portage's madwifi now supports the Macbook Pro > chipset... I had to use SVN one at the time. The drivers might be in the kernel now. I was using madwifi-ng and changed to the ath5k driver at around 2.6.26 or 27.
Re: [gentoo-user] automated install || stage4? rapid deployment?
On Monday 11 May 2009 10:21:56 pm James wrote: > Not a bad idea, Jerome. > > I imagine you create a new DVD every year or so so that you don't have > to wait forever when updating all packages on your system? > > -j Hi James, Actally, I update the dvd pretty regularly. I'm a real bug about staying current with the kernel, glibc and gcc. Have a good one -- * From the desk of: Jerome D. McBride 18:42:11 up 11 days, 10 min, 3 users, load average: 2.18, 0.61, 0.21 *
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with compiling kernel
Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Paul Hartman wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Arnau Bria wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:33:23 +0200 Marc Blumentritt wrote: > Hi, > > Hi, > when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and > building the modules), I get this error message: > > hive linux # make && make modules_install && make > > just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make? I just do make all && make modules_install ... >>> I do: >>> >>> make all >>> make install >>> make modules_install >>> make firmware_install >>> >>> seperately :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I do like Arnau does. It works here. What is that "firmware_install" >> part anyway? I haven't ever seen that before. >> > > Why, it installs firmware of course. :) It looks like it was added > almost a year ago. Here are the patch check-in notes: > > From: David Woodhouse > To: > Subject: [PATCH 03/18] firmware: Add 'firmware_install' make target > Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 4:01 am > > This installs all the in-kernel-tree firmware into $(INSTALL_FW_PATH), > which defaults to $(objtree)/usr/lib/firmware and is intended end up > in /lib/firmware for udev to find the files. > > This, in conjunction with the builtin-firmware support, makes it simple > for drivers with associated firmware to move over to request_firmware() > and give the user a choice of whether to have it built in to the kernel > image or loaded separately from userspace. > > As with kernel header installation for userspace, it intentionally pays > no attention to configuration variables -- it installs _all_ available > firmware blobs, unconditionally. > > > I'm not real sure what "firmware" is so I will have to look into this a bit more. Maybe that it would be something I, and maybe others, need to do as well. I'm sure if someone went to the trouble of making it that it serves a purpose. Thanks ! Dale :-) :-)
SOLVED Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mouse button mapping with evdev+hal+xorg-1.5.3
ABCD wrote: > names begin with two digits, so as to facilitate sorting. Also, it > appears that you might not have restarted hal after adding the file - > try "/etc/init.d/hald restart", then restart X. Also, after doing so, > if it doesn't work, reply with the full output of `lshal` (yes, I know > it's long, but it can be helpful. Also, again if it doesn't work, send > the contents of all files under /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. > Indeed. After a restart, all fine. Thanks, -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1801 (95228-95277)
John Hennessy wrote: > unsubscribe > > NO !!! You are chained to us and we will not let you go. Dale :-) :-) P. S. gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org should work. If not, look at the headers in the email or the mailing list pages on gentoo.org .
[gentoo-user] nfs over (lvm over nbd) ?
Hello, I'm currently trying to setup a network with a storageless server. There are 20 computers (2x1.6 Ghz, 1GB RAM, 160GB sata) and 1 more (outside the room) with the same hardware (so no real "server"). The whole is connected with 10/100 ethernet. Of course, and so sadly, there is not a penny... In order to make a network where any user can access his datas whatever the computer he uses, I'm thinking about the following kind of configuration : - Each client (one of the 20 computers) runs a MBD daemon which shares its HD to the server (the 21st) over the ethernet. - The "server" handle the 3.2TB in a volume group and create the logical volumes with LVM - The "server" also run a NFS daemon - Then each client can grab it's data through NFS. - happiness ... ? -- I never did such a setup but already see a couple of problems : - each client need some private HD space to, at least, boot enough to let the NBD daemon start. - $10 question : if 20 users login, will the ethernet be fast enough to support the load ? -- I though about a more manual way (rsync at login/logout) but it implies versionning and above all distribution and mirroring, ... so appears less reliable at first look. Also I can't imagine a way to abstract the storage with lvm with a distributed syncing at log{in,out}. I would greatly appreciate any ideas, critics, ... Raph PS-1) Not a penny means that it's already a pain to afford a 30€, 24 ports switch (the 20 computers were given last year) So the N.10³ "sata bays" are nothing else than dreams, here. PS-2) I already saw some subjects outside the specific gentoo scope on this list but if this one really makes no sense here, please just kindly precise it so I will conceal forever :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:20:10 -0700 James Ausmus wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Dan Cowsill > wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > I've been trying to get to the bottom of my recent troubles with my > > IDE controller working with the 2.6.28 kernel. Now, linux never > > boots without a kernel panic, so dmesg never gets logged... Is > > there any way to have the kernel dump the boot log somewhere? I'd > > settle for scrolling up, really. > > > > If you have a serial port, you can enable serial console in the kernel > config, and boot with a "console=ttyS0" kernel parameter, to see all > the output on a serially attached (via null modem cable or adapter) > computer... > > -James An alternative to the serial port is your ethernet connection. The kernel can output to ethernet and you can capture the info using netconsole.
Re: [gentoo-user] help needed to connect wifi on eee
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:05:43 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: > ifconfig wlan0 up > > iwlist wlan0 scan reveals the network name, the chan. > > iwconfig wlan0 essid "Network Name" > > iwconfig wlan0 chan 1 > > ping somebody.com gets unknown host. You've not set the IP address, DNS addresses or routing. dhcpcd wlan0 should sort this. Or use a network connection manager like net-misc/wicd to do all the dirty work for you. -- Neil Bothwick Forget the Joneses...I can't keep up with The Simpsons. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] help needed to connect wifi on eee
Hi group, I'm trying to connect at the library to their wifi(Open network, no key required), but it's not working so I moved to one of their own machines to send this. Here's the steps I took: cat /proc/net/wireless gives me the interface wlan0 ifconfig wlan0 up iwlist wlan0 scan reveals the network name, the chan. iwconfig wlan0 essid "Network Name" iwconfig wlan0 chan 1 ping somebody.com gets unknown host. dmesg: ... wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:1e:58:fb:8c:b1 wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1e:58:fb:8c:b1 wlan0: authenticated wlan0: associate with AP 00:1e:58:fb:8c:b1 wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1e:58:fb:8c:b1 wlan0: associated I know the system is working because I see others here working with their Windows laptops. Maxim __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[gentoo-user] Re: Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org issue 1801 (95228-95277)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: automated install || stage4? rapid deployment?
I have looked at Metro (a catalyst tool of sorts) but I'm not certain I can take the customer configuration / rc files that I've whipped up and somehow use them during the automatic build process. If I could...man would that be lovely. -j On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM, James wrote: > Jerry McBride comcast.net> writes: > > >> I keep a master copy of a generic gentoo install on a dvd. It's configured >> and >> compiled as x86, i686 for both the applications and kernel. I build all the >> kernel drivers I would ever need and update it as needed with each new round >> of hardware purchases or driver updates. Then when I need to put another >> gentoo box online, I simply copy the contents of the dvd to the new >> harddrive, run grub and install the boot loader onto the new drive and I'm >> done the hard part. Once done, I pop the new drive into the new computer and >> boot it up. At the commandline I finish tailoring the install by tweaking USE >> in make.conf and recompiling, but only as necessary. Add in whatever drivers >> is needs and I'm done... It's worked everytime I've done this... YMMV. :') > > > Hello Jerry, > > Did you use catalyst? > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/catalyst/faq.xml > > Are you using or planing on using the new 'autobuilds'? > > How will autobuilds affect your method for installation? > > http://mirror.yandex.ru/gentoo-distfiles/releases/amd64/autobuilds/ > > I too, have similar needs so any further details you care to > share are of keen interest to others. > > > > James >
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:34:56 -0300 Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > Xorg messages? or application ones? > > > > All of them, lol. :-) > > *I keep vesa cause I had many problems with intel driver... > > Hmm, me too. Ok, I upgraded my kernel (2.6.28-r5), rebuild xorg, and i've copied a xorg.conf file (generated with Xorg --configure or something similar, it's in the doc) and if I use vesa driver there, my computer works like before! Wine goes fast, slim take a few seconds at least I have my old config! What's going on? > > * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. > > > > Try revdep-rebuild -i (so it will search again). I had to do it... did, but did not rebuild anything. > I have keyboard and mouse as a fallback, but my xorg.conf has no > options or configurations for them... going to rebuild xorg with those options. > I don't know if I can help more, as my system never recovered from the > Xorg 1.5 update... thanks a lot for your help!!! You did help, Cheers, Arnau
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and Flash (again...)
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 16:53:11 Robin Atwood wrote: > > Then, in my pride and arrogance, I decided to upgrade my desktop to use > > KDE 4.2.3. After two days of hacking away, I now have almost all the > > functionally I had with KDE 3.5.10 (two omissions being amarok and > > bluetooth). However, every time I visit a site with flash I get a > > segfault in nspluginviewer after it's loaded libflashplayer.so. Someone > > mentioned they had this working, I am curious to know how since there are > > quite a few open tickets for this on k.b.o. > > On amd64 I have konqueror-4.2.3, nplugins-4.2.3, adobe-flash-10.0.22.87 > with USE="32bit multilib" (I have a 32 bit Firefox for a Java based vpn - > not relevant to flash), and no nspluginwrapper. It all JustWorks(tm) out > the box, and I don't need to fiddle with embedded mplayer stuff either. I > used to have constant crashes in konqueror with flash which one day just > went away after I rebuilt all of KDE with USE="-prefix". IIRC it was an > upgrade from 4.2.2 as well. WHat console output do you get if you launch > the browser from the command line and view flash? I have everything at 4.2.3 like you. I rebuilt adobeflash as 32bit but I still get the same error: konqueror(20163) NSPluginLoader::lookup: Looking up plugin for mimetype "application/x-shockwave-flash" : "/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so" nspluginviewer(20187) NSPluginClass::initialize: results in 0 nspluginviewer(20187) NSPluginInstance::NPGetValue: results in 0 konqueror(20163) NSPluginLoader::newInstance: <- NSPluginLoader::NewInstance = 0x12b4540 konqueror(20163) NSPluginInstance::pluginResized: 640 385 konqueror(20163) NSPluginInstance::resizeEvent: 640 385 false true false konqueror(20163) NSPluginInstance::showEvent: 640 385 true true false konqueror(20163) NSPluginLoader::instance: NSPluginLoader::instance -> 3 nspluginviewer(20187) PluginHostXEmbed::setupWindow: 102768327 640 385 KCrash: Application 'nspluginviewer' crashing... sock_file=/home/robin/.kde4.2/socket-opal/kdeinit4__0 konqueror(20163) NSPluginLoader::processTerminated: Viewer process terminated konqueror(20163) NSPluginLoader::release: NSPluginLoader::release -> 2 konqueror(20163) NSPluginInstance::~NSPluginInstance: -> NSPluginInstance::~NSPluginInstance And since you mention it, the kmplayerpart no longer plays embedded stream video, as on http://www.apple.com/trailers/. -- -- Robin Atwood. "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst" from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling --
[gentoo-user] Font problem
Hi all, I get the following error when starting Eterm: Eterm: Error: Unable to load font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1". Falling back on "k14" Eterm: FATAL: Couldn't load the fallback font either. Giving up. and the follwoing warning when starting xterm: Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 Has someone any idea to fix this problem? Thanks, Christoph
Re: [gentoo-user] xterm fonts not loaded
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Valmor de Almeida > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> After an update to xorg-1.5.3 (with hal), following the gentoo xorg 1.5 >> update guide doc, I get warnings when launching a simple xterm. Also >> when trying to change the font size (ctrl+left_mouse_button) I get >> additional warnings and no font change. Do I need to emerge font packages? > > Maybe re-emerge the fonts that you have installed. And specifically make sure that media-fonts/font-misc-misc is not having problems.
Re: [gentoo-user] xterm fonts not loaded
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > Hello, > > After an update to xorg-1.5.3 (with hal), following the gentoo xorg 1.5 > update guide doc, I get warnings when launching a simple xterm. Also > when trying to change the font size (ctrl+left_mouse_button) I get > additional warnings and no font change. Do I need to emerge font packages? Maybe re-emerge the fonts that you have installed.
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel
Marc Blumentritt schrieb: Hi, when I try to compile a kernel again (meaning after compiling it and building the modules), I get this error message: hive linux # make && make modules_install && make [...] INSTALL sound/core/snd-timer.ko INSTALL sound/core/snd.ko INSTALL sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko INSTALL sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx-modem.ko INSTALL sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko INSTALL sound/soc/snd-soc-core.ko INSTALL sound/soundcore.ko DEPMOD 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 CHK include/linux/version.h CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86 CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh CHK include/linux/compile.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3/usr/Makefile:41: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop. make: *** [usr] Error 2 The same happens with stable gentoo-sources and stable vanilla sources. This thing worked a few weeks again (I first noticed the error yesterday, but this does not mean, that it was the first time the error there). Any ideas, what could be wrong or how to identify the problem? I forgot to add the following information: 1.) I used fresh kernel sources (meaning fresh download and installation via portage). 2.) When I try to remove the compiled file by running "make clean" I get the following error: hive linux # make clean CLEAN arch/x86/boot/compressed CLEAN arch/x86/boot CLEAN /usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3 CLEAN arch/x86/kernel/acpi/realmode CLEAN arch/x86/kernel/cpu CLEAN arch/x86/kernel CLEAN arch/x86/vdso CLEAN drivers/char CLEAN init CLEAN kernel CLEAN lib /usr/src/linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r3/usr/Makefile:41: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop. make: *** [_clean_usr] Error 2 Again, this happens with stable gentoo and vanilla sources, too. Any ideas? Marc
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel
Arnau Bria schrieb: hive linux # make && make modules_install && make just one question about your compiling command, why make && ... && make? I just do make all && make modules_install ... I used this command only to show the problem I have. I have a special setup, where I place nearly the complete root file system inside the kernel image (only /usr is added via a squashfs mount). I use for this the kernel option "General setup -> (/path/to/my/files) Initramfs source file(s)". When I change the source files, I have to recompile the kernel (just running make) to include the changes inside the kernel. This has worked up until last week. Now I always get the error I reported in my first email. Regards, Marc
Re: [gentoo-user] Konqueror and Flash (again...)
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 16:53:11 Robin Atwood wrote: > A few weeks back the list gave me some advice on using Flash on KDE 3.5 > under amd64 arch. I ended up with using gnash, which has a kpart, with > konqueror routinely, and adobe-flash-10.0.22.87 (64 bit) with firefox for > when I wanted to see a movie. And all was well. :) > > Then, in my pride and arrogance, I decided to upgrade my desktop to use KDE > 4.2.3. After two days of hacking away, I now have almost all the > functionally I had with KDE 3.5.10 (two omissions being amarok and > bluetooth). However, every time I visit a site with flash I get a segfault > in nspluginviewer after it's loaded libflashplayer.so. Someone mentioned > they had this working, I am curious to know how since there are quite a few > open tickets for this on k.b.o. On amd64 I have konqueror-4.2.3, nplugins-4.2.3, adobe-flash-10.0.22.87 with USE="32bit multilib" (I have a 32 bit Firefox for a Java based vpn - not relevant to flash), and no nspluginwrapper. It all JustWorks(tm) out the box, and I don't need to fiddle with embedded mplayer stuff either. I used to have constant crashes in konqueror with flash which one day just went away after I rebuilt all of KDE with USE="-prefix". IIRC it was an upgrade from 4.2.2 as well. WHat console output do you get if you launch the browser from the command line and view flash? Here's my settings: a...@nazgul ~ $ eix -e konqueror [I] kde-base/konqueror Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.9 (~)3.5.10 (4.2) (~)4.2.2!t (~)4.2.3!t {arts auth bookmarks branding debug doc elibc_FreeBSD java kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility kdeprefix thumbnail xinerama} Installed versions: 4.2.3(4.2)!t(21:49:24 05/08/09)(auth bookmarks thumbnail -debug -doc -kdeprefix) Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: KDE: Web browser, file manager, ... a...@nazgul ~ $ eix -e nsplugins [I] kde-base/nsplugins Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.9 (~)3.5.10 (4.2) (~)4.2.2 (~)4.2.3 {arts debug elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility kdeprefix xinerama} Installed versions: 4.2.3(4.2)(21:50:20 05/08/09)(-debug -kdeprefix) Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: Netscape plugins support for Konqueror. a...@nazgul ~ $ eix -e adobe-flash [I] www-plugins/adobe-flash Available versions: (~)9.0.159.0!m!s 10.0.15.3!m!s 10.0.22.87!m!s {32bit multilib} Installed versions: 10.0.22.87!m!s(10:06:08 04/13/09)(32bit multilib) Homepage:http://www.adobe.com/ Description: Adobe Flash Player -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On 12 May, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> >> How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) >> >> without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask > >> > So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview >> > does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage > >> Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not >> to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he >> will want to know what it breaks. ;-) > > In that case, put "sci-visualization/paraview -qt4" in > /etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it > breaks. > Thanks! I'd hoped it would perhaps work with qt-core-4.5.1 but it requires 4.3. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:54:31 Dale wrote: > >> Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not >> to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he >> will want to know what it breaks. ;-) >> >> Dale >> > > Even better is if he fixes it, reports the fix, supplies a patch, which goes > upstream, his name appears in the Changelog (street cred) and the whole world > benefits :-) > > That would be nice, very nice. Let's see if he takes the bait. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote: > > How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask > > >>> So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview >>> does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage >>> > > >> Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not >> to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he >> will want to know what it breaks. ;-) >> > > In that case, put "sci-visualization/paraview -qt4" in > /etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it > breaks. > > > Oh, I didn't say I would do that. I mostly run stable here. Heck, I have enough "issues" with stable packages. I still can't get the new xorg-server to work. Long story. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:54:31 Dale wrote: > Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not > to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he > will want to know what it breaks. ;-) > > Dale Even better is if he fixes it, reports the fix, supplies a patch, which goes upstream, his name appears in the Changelog (street cred) and the whole world benefits :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) > >> without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask > > So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview > > does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage > Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not > to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he > will want to know what it breaks. ;-) In that case, put "sci-visualization/paraview -qt4" in /etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it breaks. -- Neil Bothwick We secretly replaced the dilithium with Folgers Crystals signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:06:23 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > > >>> sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to >>> see if that is your problem. >>> >> Many thanks (to Albert, as well). >> I didn't know about that. >> How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) >> without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask >> > > You shouldn't, because it is highly unlikely to work right now. Flags are > masked on arches for sound technical reasons, they are not mere optional > defaults. /var/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask has this to > say: > > # Mask until Qt 4.4 works with this package, as we need to mask 4.3 > # because of bug 248038. See also bug 243362. > sci-visualization/paraview qt4 > > So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview does not > work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage > > Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not to work. lol Curiosity you know will get him. If nothing else, he will want to know what it breaks. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Arnau Bria wrote: > one question: > is INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" enough? or do I have to include keyboard and > mouse? > > Thanks for your reply, > Arnau I found that if I use *any* xorg.conf file then evdev seems to be enough for me. However if I try to run without an xorg.conf file then I'm getting failures when starting some applications telling me it cannot find things. It wasn't important to me to not use an xorg.conf file so I continue to do it the old way and things are working OK. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 14:08, Arnau Bria wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:43:38 -0300 > Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > [...] >> > Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it >> > is normal? >> > >> >> Definetly not normal. > Xorg messages? or application ones? > All of them, lol. >> Have you run revdep-rebuild? What's your kernel >> and VIDEO_CARDS variable content? Why are you using fbdev? > # grep VIDEO /etc/make.conf > VIDEO_CARDS="vesa intel" > > *I keep vesa cause I had many problems with intel driver... Hmm, me too. > > # uname -a > Linux amparo 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #3 SMP Sat Jan 31 23:09:23 Local time zone must > be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel > GNU/Linux > > *I'll ask later about the "Local time zone" message, cause I've it > configured as Gentoo Linux Localization Guide says... :-( > xf86-video-intel-2.6 and above only worked OK for me with GEM enabled in the kernel (2.6.28 and aboce)... But that's just my personal opinion. > >> >> 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + >> >> kernel do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps >> >> with glxgears, and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck >> >> around 300, general performance is no better. Its a shame, had to >> >> drop compiz-fusion, for example. I hope for better support on new >> >> releases of intel driver. >> > >> > ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it >> > opens the application? is xorg and wine related? >> >> Maybe a library problem, or your system is simply hanging at 100% CPU. >> Again, revdep-rebuild... > I did: > > # revdep-rebuild -p > * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild > > * Checking reverse dependencies > * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update > * will be emerged. > > * Collecting system binaries and libraries > * Generated new 1_files.rr > * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH > * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr > * Checking dynamic linking consistency > [ 100% ] > > * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. > Try revdep-rebuild -i (so it will search again). I had to do it... >> >> 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to >> >> relative mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs >> >> for your touchpad. >> > is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one >> > select... >> > >> >> Sorry, I don't know of a generic fdi for touchpads, you can search >> Google for configs that may fit your hardware. >> >> I would advice you to follow the upgrade guide, if you haven't, >> everything I mentioned is right there: >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml > Yes, I followed it ... > > one question: > is INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" enough? or do I have to include keyboard and > mouse? I have keyboard and mouse as a fallback, but my xorg.conf has no options or configurations for them... I don't know if I can help more, as my system never recovered from the Xorg 1.5 update... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:06:23 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to > > see if that is your problem. > > Many thanks (to Albert, as well). > I didn't know about that. > How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) > without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask You shouldn't, because it is highly unlikely to work right now. Flags are masked on arches for sound technical reasons, they are not mere optional defaults. /var/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask has this to say: # Mask until Qt 4.4 works with this package, as we need to mask 4.3 # because of bug 248038. See also bug 243362. sci-visualization/paraview qt4 So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:43:38 -0300 Daniel da Veiga wrote: [...] > > Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it > > is normal? > > > > Definetly not normal. Xorg messages? or application ones? > Have you run revdep-rebuild? What's your kernel > and VIDEO_CARDS variable content? Why are you using fbdev? # grep VIDEO /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS="vesa intel" *I keep vesa cause I had many problems with intel driver... # uname -a Linux amparo 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #3 SMP Sat Jan 31 23:09:23 Local time zone must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux *I'll ask later about the "Local time zone" message, cause I've it configured as Gentoo Linux Localization Guide says... :-( > >> 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + > >> kernel do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps > >> with glxgears, and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck > >> around 300, general performance is no better. Its a shame, had to > >> drop compiz-fusion, for example. I hope for better support on new > >> releases of intel driver. > > > > ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it > > opens the application? is xorg and wine related? > > Maybe a library problem, or your system is simply hanging at 100% CPU. > Again, revdep-rebuild... I did: # revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 100% ] * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. > >> 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to > >> relative mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs > >> for your touchpad. > > is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one > > select... > > > > Sorry, I don't know of a generic fdi for touchpads, you can search > Google for configs that may fit your hardware. > > I would advice you to follow the upgrade guide, if you haven't, > everything I mentioned is right there: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Yes, I followed it ... one question: is INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" enough? or do I have to include keyboard and mouse? Thanks for your reply, Arnau
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Dienstag 12 Mai 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview >> with a qt4 GUI. >> >> My /etc/portage/package.use contains >> sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi >> >> >> but when I try to emerge it >> emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview >> >> I get >> USE="examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)" >> >> Why doesn't it work? >> >> uname -a >> Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64 >> AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux >> >> >> Many thanks for a hint, >> Helmut. > > sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to see > if that is your problem. Many thanks (to Albert, as well). I didn't know about that. How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?) without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 13:30, Arnau Bria wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:55:06 -0300 > Daniel da Veiga wrote: >> 1) I use slim, and I have no problems with Xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, have >> you tried recompiling slim, or enabling logging on it to see what's >> going on? > recompiled... and log show many things :-) > > some Xorg ones: > > (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) > > I'm compiling x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev ... > > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed > (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory) > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering > [...] > > do you have that file? > > > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols >> Ignoring extra symbols > Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >> Warning: Duplicate shape name "" >> Using last definition > this warning is shown many times... > > any problem with # cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi > > > > > es > > > > ?¿?¿?¿ > > > and this one that I don't know from where it comes: > exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! > > Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it is > normal? > Definetly not normal. Have you run revdep-rebuild? What's your kernel and VIDEO_CARDS variable content? Why are you using fbdev? >> 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + kernel >> do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps with glxgears, >> and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck around 300, general >> performance is no better. Its a shame, had to drop compiz-fusion, for >> example. I hope for better support on new releases of intel driver. > > ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it > opens the application? is xorg and wine related? Maybe a library problem, or your system is simply hanging at 100% CPU. Again, revdep-rebuild... > >> 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to relative >> mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs for your >> touchpad. > is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one > select... > Sorry, I don't know of a generic fdi for touchpads, you can search Google for configs that may fit your hardware. I would advice you to follow the upgrade guide, if you haven't, everything I mentioned is right there: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out
Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:25:07 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. > emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 > does not work. paludis --uninstall --with-dependencies =kdelibs-3.5.9 HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:55:06 -0300 Daniel da Veiga wrote: Hi Daniel, [...] > 1) I use slim, and I have no problems with Xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, have > you tried recompiling slim, or enabling logging on it to see what's > going on? recompiled... and log show many things :-) some Xorg ones: (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) I'm compiling x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev ... (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering [...] do you have that file? The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols > Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Warning: Duplicate shape name "" > Using last definition this warning is shown many times... any problem with # cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi es ?¿?¿?¿ and this one that I don't know from where it comes: exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it is normal? > 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + kernel > do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps with glxgears, > and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck around 300, general > performance is no better. Its a shame, had to drop compiz-fusion, for > example. I hope for better support on new releases of intel driver. ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it opens the application? is xorg and wine related? > 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to relative > mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs for your > touchpad. is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one select... thakns for your reply, Arnau
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-agent & RSA
2009/5/12 Philipp Riegger : > On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:18 -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > I would recommend you to try > > [I] net-misc/keychain > Available versions: 2.6.6 2.6.8 > Installed versions: 2.6.8(19:38:13 04/17/09) > Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/ > Description: ssh-agent manager I will have a look at that tonight. If that also fails, I guess I'll try reinstalling everything related to SSH.
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-agent & RSA
2009/5/12 Etaoin Shrdlu : > On Tuesday 12 May 2009, 11:17, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > >> > Does ssh-agent really ask you for a passphrase when starting a >> > shell? >> >> Not if you don't invoke it :) > > Sorry, that is a bit unclear. Ssh-agent will never ask for a password. > It's ssh-add that does (if you run it after the agent), assuming the key > you're adding is password-protected. Ssh-agent most certainly asks for a passphrase (although it may be ssh-add that does the actual asking). As soon as I get to my first login screen (I don't start from a GUI login), and I have logged in, ssh-agent (or ssh-add, whatever) asks me for a passphrase for the DSA key it finds. But it consistently ignores the RSA key. Really, everything is (or at least seems to be) working wonderfully *for DSA*. As you also indicated, it *should* work for both DSA and RSA ... except that on my box it doesn't. :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On Dienstag 12 Mai 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview > with a qt4 GUI. > > My /etc/portage/package.use contains > sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi > > > but when I try to emerge it > emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview > > I get > USE="examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)" > > Why doesn't it work? > > uname -a > Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64 > AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux > > > Many thanks for a hint, > Helmut. sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to see if that is your problem.
Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:42 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview > with a qt4 GUI. > > My /etc/portage/package.use contains > sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi > > > but when I try to emerge it > emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview > > I get > USE="examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)" > > Why doesn't it work? Per the emerge man page '()' means the USE flag is "forced, masked, or removed". -a
[gentoo-user] use flag not used - why
Hi, I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview with a qt4 GUI. My /etc/portage/package.use contains sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi but when I try to emerge it emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview I get USE="examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)" Why doesn't it work? uname -a Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
[gentoo-user] Re: xterm fonts not loaded
Valmor de Almeida wrote: > Hello, > > After an update to xorg-1.5.3 (with hal), following the gentoo xorg 1.5 > update guide doc, I get warnings when launching a simple xterm. Also > when trying to change the font size (ctrl+left_mouse_button) I get > additional warnings and no font change. Do I need to emerge font packages? > > Thanks, > > -- > Valmor > > > Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1 > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1 > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1 > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso10646-1 > xterm: cannot load font > -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 > > Just to add to the info above; from Xorg.0.log (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" Thanks, -- Valmor
[gentoo-user] xterm fonts not loaded
Hello, After an update to xorg-1.5.3 (with hal), following the gentoo xorg 1.5 update guide doc, I get warnings when launching a simple xterm. Also when trying to change the font size (ctrl+left_mouse_button) I get additional warnings and no font change. Do I need to emerge font packages? Thanks, -- Valmor Warning: Cannot convert string "nil2" to type FontStruct xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1 xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1 xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1 xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso10646-1 xterm: cannot load font -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
Hello again list, After having tried every suggested method of scrolling or pausing kernel output and failing, I decided to mess about with the kernel config a little more and eventually came out ahead. I am happy to report no kernel panics and I thank everyone for their contribution. D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Konqueror and Flash (again...)
A few weeks back the list gave me some advice on using Flash on KDE 3.5 under amd64 arch. I ended up with using gnash, which has a kpart, with konqueror routinely, and adobe-flash-10.0.22.87 (64 bit) with firefox for when I wanted to see a movie. And all was well. :) Then, in my pride and arrogance, I decided to upgrade my desktop to use KDE 4.2.3. After two days of hacking away, I now have almost all the functionally I had with KDE 3.5.10 (two omissions being amarok and bluetooth). However, every time I visit a site with flash I get a segfault in nspluginviewer after it's loaded libflashplayer.so. Someone mentioned they had this working, I am curious to know how since there are quite a few open tickets for this on k.b.o. TIA -Robin -- -- Robin Atwood. "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst" from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling --
[gentoo-user] Re: strange net interfaces
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > The latter. Two tools that both do the same job. iproute combines ifconfig > and > route functionality into one tool; other than that having both is about as > significant as having two browsers Thanks, James
[gentoo-user] Re: automated install || stage4? rapid deployment?
Jerry McBride comcast.net> writes: > I keep a master copy of a generic gentoo install on a dvd. It's configured > and > compiled as x86, i686 for both the applications and kernel. I build all the > kernel drivers I would ever need and update it as needed with each new round > of hardware purchases or driver updates. Then when I need to put another > gentoo box online, I simply copy the contents of the dvd to the new > harddrive, run grub and install the boot loader onto the new drive and I'm > done the hard part. Once done, I pop the new drive into the new computer and > boot it up. At the commandline I finish tailoring the install by tweaking USE > in make.conf and recompiling, but only as necessary. Add in whatever drivers > is needs and I'm done... It's worked everytime I've done this... YMMV. :') Hello Jerry, Did you use catalyst? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/catalyst/faq.xml Are you using or planing on using the new 'autobuilds'? How will autobuilds affect your method for installation? http://mirror.yandex.ru/gentoo-distfiles/releases/amd64/autobuilds/ I too, have similar needs so any further details you care to share are of keen interest to others. James
Re: [gentoo-user] how to recover a portage that wasn't in use for very long time
Nick Fortino wrote: Alexey Luchko wrote: I have a gentoo installed, but I wasn't updating it since late 2007, I suppose. Today I've run emerge --sync. It worked! It's great ;) But then I've got the following collision. Obviously, a portage update is required. But it is confused by dependencies: colinux ~ # emerge portage --pretend --tree These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: [cut] [blocks B ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p39) colinux ~ # I worked on this a couple months back to make it possible. The key is to download binary packages of portage and a few dependencies to break the block. Once portage is upgraded, it's smart enough to figure things out now. An original script an discussion can be found at http://blog.jolexa.net/2009/03/25/gentoo-tips-to-upgrade-your-really-old-installation/ A slightly modified version is here inline. I would recommend against running it as a script, but rather do the steps individually (also, if you aren't running amd64, be sure to change the architecture of the binaries you are downloading). Read this line as typical warnings of your mileage may very etc. I decided to try this way first. I've got a problem on the way and hopefully restored the system. The problem appeared after downloading and extracting new bash: wget http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/app-shells/bash-3.2_p39.tbz2 tar xfpj root/All/bash-3.2_p39.tbz2 Every next execution of bash (and sh also) gave me: colinux ~ # sh sh: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by sh) I didn't get through it, but rather restored the partition from backup. By the way, does one know a windows tool, that can write a partition directly? If one is interested, I managed to get this way: I had the backup on the windows host system. I replaced my root's shell with /usr/bin/python and wrote a script that did what "cat > /dev/cobd/4" would do if it was available. The I restored the system running the following: $ gzip -d < /z/inst/colinux/colinux20090512.img.gz | ssh r...@colinux -C 'execfile("cat.py"); cat("/dev/cobd/4")' It's really funny, but writing these lines I've understand that I had mounted host file system, and I could have restored the backup through it. Have a nice time ;) Alexey.
Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out
On Tue, May 12, 2009 11:25, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > > I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install > both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'. > > For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which > parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5 and > let revdep-rebuild find out. How about this? $ equery d kdelibs:3.5 > Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. > emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 does not work. Unmerge whatever kde:3.5 packages you installed by hand then use --depclean to clear the dependencies. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out
On 5/12/09, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install > both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'. > > For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which > parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5 > and let revdep-rebuild find out. > > Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. > emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 > does not work. Some of your questions are answered here, right on the top (I hope I link to the up-to-date version and not the outdated one): http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/ I don't know if my advice beyond those links is of any use as I did it all the "wrong" way -- didn't unmerge previous kde, just unmasked the new kde versions, didn't use sets, still have USE="-kdeprefix" etc. Still, sky didn't fall on me, at least not until I unmasked the then-unstable xorg 1.5 ... -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out
Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install > both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'. > > For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which > parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5 > and let revdep-rebuild find out. > > Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. > emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 > does not work. > > Many thanks for a hint, > Helmut. > > Did you install by using kde-meta or some of its friends? If so, unmerge the meta package then run emerge -p --depclean and make sure you are not loosing anything you want to keep, then run revdep-rebuild to make sure all is still sane. Also, you can remove anything kde 3.5 in your world file, then run depclean to remove it. Keep in mind that the world file supports version specific lines now. I'm sure some other guru will come along with other ideas but one of those should work. May not be perfect but is anything ever perfect? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-agent & RSA
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:18 -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > Hi all, [...] I would recommend you to try [I] net-misc/keychain Available versions: 2.6.6 2.6.8 Installed versions: 2.6.8(19:38:13 04/17/09) Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/ Description: ssh-agent manager Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-agent & RSA
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, 11:17, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > Does ssh-agent really ask you for a passphrase when starting a > > shell? > > Not if you don't invoke it :) Sorry, that is a bit unclear. Ssh-agent will never ask for a password. It's ssh-add that does (if you run it after the agent), assuming the key you're adding is password-protected.
[gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out
Hi, I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'. For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5 and let revdep-rebuild find out. Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 does not work. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh-agent & RSA
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, 06:35, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > This works for me too but afterwards the key is completely ignored. > What happens if you do this and then restart the shell? Or better yet, > what happens if you logout completely and then log back in? For me, > the RSA key is completely ignored. The way ssh-agent is designed is to NOT survive after the shell it was started from is closed. That's why you should invoke it during your very first login shell, so that the variables it sets are exported to all child programs and subshells. If you do graphical login, I believe there's an equivalent tool that lets you run the agent from the parent environment. One way of doing that is to put its invocation in .bashrc, but then it will run a new copy each time a new login shell is started. So tools like keychain have been developed which run ssh-agent, ask for the password, and on subsequent invocations check if the agent is already running, and if so they don't ask for the password again. There's a nice article on keychain here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/ > Does ssh-agent really ask you for a passphrase when starting a shell? Not if you don't invoke it :) > Or at least list the RSA key? For me it's only the DSA key that is > listed by ssh-agent (when it starts) and it's only for the DSA key > that ssh-agent asks for a passphrase. Note, that ssh-add -L still > lists the RSA key too! As far as I know, as soon as ssh-agent is started, it has no keys. It's your job (or keychain's) to add keys to ssh-agent's cache. But I'm not sure I understand what you're getting.
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 01:28:17 Dan Cowsill wrote: > > >> Seeing the output isn't the problem, its just that the relevant error >> messages scroll away too quickly. >> > > Have you tried CTRL-S to pause the output and CTRL-Q to resume? > > Or maybe the scroll lock key? That works on mine. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel
Hi, My Gentoo laptop is a Macbook Pro SantaRosa (late 2007, probably MA896LL/A , following wikipedia). Since I use it for work I've always been quite conservative with it... it is an x86 machine and I upgrade things only after having read things here and there on the ML and possibly elsewhere (Still have to upgrade xorg, for example, will do it soon). The oldest piece I haven't touched is the kernel. It is 2.6.24-rc6 vanilla-sources, which were the first mostly working with the laptop... and never touched since. Now I want to ask the list: 1) Does anyone have a recent kernel config for this kind of machine? 2) What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of when upgrading to latest kernel? I confess that reading CHANGELOGs didn't help me too much, quite confusing. Also, I wonder if portage's madwifi now supports the Macbook Pro chipset... I had to use SVN one at the time. thanks, m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 01:28:17 Dan Cowsill wrote: > Seeing the output isn't the problem, its just that the relevant error > messages scroll away too quickly. Have you tried CTRL-S to pause the output and CTRL-Q to resume? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
On Mon, 11 May 2009 20:16:55 -0400 Dan Cowsill wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been trying to get to the bottom of my recent troubles with my > IDE controller working with the 2.6.28 kernel. Now, linux never boots > without a kernel panic, so dmesg never gets logged... Is there any > way to have the kernel dump the boot log somewhere? I'd settle for > scrolling up, really. > > Thanks, > Dan > Add "panic=X" to your kernel parameters and after panic it will wait for X seconds before rebooting. -- Best regards, Daniel
[gentoo-user] Re: mouse button mapping with evdev+hal+xorg-1.5.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > This partially solved the problem. The optical mice were correctly > configured but the quick pointing device on the laptop keyboard was not. > That is the left/right buttons were not switched. HAL does list (below) > the device in two entries that contain the input.mouse keyword. > > I find it difficult to get info on configuring HAL devices on the web; > do I need to join a mailing list? It would be helpful to find some > examples of the naming of the fdi files their contents that go under the > /etc/hal/*/policy/ directory. > > Thanks for the help and any other additional inputs. > If I remember correctly, the names of the files under /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ is irrelevant, so long as they end in ".fdi". They are simply used in ASCIIbetical order, which is why many of the file names begin with two digits, so as to facilitate sorting. Also, it appears that you might not have restarted hal after adding the file - try "/etc/init.d/hald restart", then restart X. Also, after doing so, if it doesn't work, reply with the full output of `lshal` (yes, I know it's long, but it can be helpful. Also, again if it doesn't work, send the contents of all files under /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. - -- ABCD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoJIJEACgkQOypDUo0oQOrSHwCggMhVx5VpH7pCPnifxhNxnmpy +dAAnigGdrpW9a6aIriyWNdHewJqCow2 =Alwq -END PGP SIGNATURE-