[gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread András Csányi
Dear All,

In the morning after I have synced my portage I saw there is a
google-chrome and chromium package. The version numbers are the same.
I watched the websites and basically they are the same. Google Chrome
is the Chrome browser and the Chromium is the open source project. I
would like to know what is the difference between them and why do we
have two package?

Thanks in advance for any information!

András

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Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Friday 02 Sep 2011 09:27:09 András Csányi wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> In the morning after I have synced my portage I saw there is a
> google-chrome and chromium package. The version numbers are the same.
> I watched the websites and basically they are the same. Google Chrome
> is the Chrome browser and the Chromium is the open source project. I
> would like to know what is the difference between them and why do we
> have two package?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any information!
> 
> András

This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_chrome

Chromium implements a similar feature set as Chrome, but lacks built-in 
automatic updates, built-in PDF reader and Google branding, and most 
noticeably has a blue-colored logo in place of the multicolored Google logo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread JD Horelick
On 2 September 2011 03:45, Yohan Pereira  wrote:
> On Friday 02 Sep 2011 09:27:09 András Csányi wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>
>>
>
>> In the morning after I have synced my portage I saw there is a
>
>> google-chrome and chromium package. The version numbers are the same.
>
>> I watched the websites and basically they are the same. Google Chrome
>
>> is the Chrome browser and the Chromium is the open source project. I
>
>> would like to know what is the difference between them and why do we
>
>> have two package?
>
>>
>
>> Thanks in advance for any information!
>
>>
>
>> András
>
>
>
> This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_chrome
>
>
>
> Chromium implements a similar feature set as Chrome, but lacks built-in
> automatic updates, built-in PDF reader and Google branding, and most
> noticeably has a blue-colored logo in place of the multicolored Google logo.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> - Yohan Pereira
>
>
>
> "A man can do as he will, but not will as he will" - Schopenhauer

Also, one is a binary, one is source that you need to compile. And
Chromium is an EXTREMELY long compile



Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread András Csányi
On 2 September 2011 09:45, Yohan Pereira  wrote:
>
>
> This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_chrome
>
> Chromium implements a similar feature set as Chrome, but lacks built-in
> automatic updates, built-in PDF reader and Google branding, and most
> noticeably has a blue-colored logo in place of the multicolored Google logo.

Hmmm... Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread András Csányi
On 2 September 2011 10:17, JD Horelick  wrote:
>
> Also, one is a binary, one is source that you need to compile. And
> Chromium is an EXTREMELY long compile

I agree it takes long time (1-2 hours on my machine) but the compile
time doesn't matter for me. I upgrade my machine from my workplace.

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[gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread covici
Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following error
when doing so:

mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
configure: loading site script
/usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
checking for C compiler default output file name...
configure: error: in
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.

I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

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How do
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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Dale

cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following error
when doing so:

mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
configure: loading site script
/usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
checking for C compiler default output file name...
configure: error: in
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.

I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.

Any assistance would be appreciated.



Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it fails.  
I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:


http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html

That help any?

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread covici

Dale  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following error
> > when doing so:
> >
> > mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> > Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
> > Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> > configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
> > configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
> > configure: loading site script
> > /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
> > configure: creating cache ./config.cache
> > checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
> > checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
> > checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> > checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> > checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
> > checking for gawk... gawk
> > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> > checking for
> > x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
> > /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
> > -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
> > -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
> > checking for C compiler default output file name...
> > configure: error: in
> > `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
> > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> > See `config.log' for more details.
> >
> > I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.
> >
> > I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
> >
> > Any assistance would be appreciated.
> >
> 
> Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it fails.
> I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html
> 
> That help any?
Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things compile
normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking for
something more specific.

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How do
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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Blakawk

On 02.09.2011 12:16, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Dale  wrote:


cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following 
error

> when doing so:
>
> mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
> Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
> configure: loading site script 
/usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux

> configure: loading site script
> /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
> configure: creating cache ./config.cache
> checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
> checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
> checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
> checking for gawk... gawk
> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> checking for
> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc

> -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
> -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ 
-isystem

> /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
> /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
> checking for C compiler default output file name...
> configure: error: in
> 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':

> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> See `config.log' for more details.
>
> I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.
>
> I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>

Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it 
fails.

I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html

That help any?
Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things 
compile
normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking 
for

something more specific.


Please provide the so-called config.log to see what happened (normally 
located in 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp/config.log).


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Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Dale

cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Dale  wrote:



Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it fails.
I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html

That help any?

Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things compile
normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking for
something more specific.



Did you check out the link that was also on that page?  Here it is:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=27486

It's hard to give a "specific" fix when we don't know much about the 
error.  All we can do is point and hope one or the other hits the mark.  
;-)


Dale

:-)  ;-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 AM, András Csányi  wrote:

> On 2 September 2011 10:17, JD Horelick  wrote:
> >
> > Also, one is a binary, one is source that you need to compile. And
> > Chromium is an EXTREMELY long compile
>
> I agree it takes long time (1-2 hours on my machine) but the compile
> time doesn't matter for me. I upgrade my machine from my workplace.
>
> --
> - -
> --  Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando)  -- http://sayusi.hu --
> http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi
> --  ""Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry!" - Cromwell
>
>
This was brought up on gentoo-dev ML last week by Mike Gilbert (aka floppym)
.

---Snip
I have been maintaining an ebuild for Google Chrome in an overlay. It
basically extracts a deb file to /opt. This serves as an easy
alternative for people who do not have the patience to compile
Chromium.

Now that I have developer access, I would like to move this to the
tree. Before doing so, I need some advice on how to deal with the
EULA[1].

--Snip--

hth,
Matt


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Pandu Poluan
(Sorry for top-posting; Gmail java mobile client sucks)

Also, ensure that you have enough free inodes if you are using
ext[2-4] filesystem. Use 'df -i' to check.

I once failed emerging gcc-4.5.3 because I ran out of inodes. That was
when I have a single partition for root, with slightly less than
320'000 inodes.

I was forced to re-create the filesystem, and finally decided to use
ReiserFS instead. You may want to use ReiserFS at least for /var/tmp
to prevent more inodes problems. After all, /var/tmp (especially
/var/tmp/portage) consumes inodes like a hungry dog.

Rgds,


On 2011-09-02, Dale  wrote:
> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following error
>> when doing so:
>>
>> mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
>> Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
>> Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
>> configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
>> configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
>> configure: loading site script
>> /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
>> configure: creating cache ./config.cache
>> checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
>> checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
>> checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>> checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
>> checking for gawk... gawk
>> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
>> checking for
>> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc...
>> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
>> -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
>> -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
>> /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
>> /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
>> checking for C compiler default output file name...
>> configure: error: in
>> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
>> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
>> See `config.log' for more details.
>>
>> I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.
>>
>> I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
>>
>> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>>
>
> Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it fails.
> I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html
>
> That help any?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread covici
Blakawk  wrote:

> On 02.09.2011 12:16, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Dale  wrote:
> >
> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> > Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following
> >> error
> >> > when doing so:
> >> >
> >> > mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> >> > Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
> >> > Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> >> > configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
> >> > configure: loading site script
> >> /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
> >> > configure: loading site script
> >> > /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
> >> > configure: creating cache ./config.cache
> >> > checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
> >> > checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
> >> > checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> > checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> > checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> >> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> >> > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
> >> > checking for gawk... gawk
> >> > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> >> > checking for
> >> >
> >> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
> >> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
> >> > -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
> >> > -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
> >> -isystem
> >> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
> >> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
> >> > checking for C compiler default output file name...
> >> > configure: error: in
> >> >
> >> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
> >> > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> >> > See `config.log' for more details.
> >> >
> >> > I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no joy.
> >> >
> >> > I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
> >> >
> >> > Any assistance would be appreciated.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it
> >> fails.
> >> I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:
> >>
> >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html
> >>
> >> That help any?
> > Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things
> > compile
> > normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking
> > for
> > something more specific.
> 
> Please provide the so-called config.log to see what happened (normally
> located in
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp/config.log).

OK, here is a section of config.log -- I hope its not too much.

COLLECT_GCC=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/lto-wrapper
Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Configured with:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/configure
--prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.3
--includedir=/u\sr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include
--datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3
--mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/man\
--infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/info
--with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include/g++-v4
--host=x86_64-pc-lin\ux-gnu --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--disable-altivec --disable-fixed-point --without-ppl --without-cloog
--disable-lto --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
\--with-system-zlib --disable-werror --enable-secureplt
--enable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp --enable-libgomp
--with-python-dir=/share/gcc-dat\a/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/python
--enable-checking=release --disable-libgcj
--enable-languages=c,c++,fortran --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
--enable-\__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu
--with-bugurl=http://bugs.gentoo.org/ --with-pkgversion='Gentoo 4.5.3-r1
p1.0, pie-0.4.5'
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.5.3 (Gentoo 4.5.3-r1 p1.0, pie-0.4.5)
configure:3638: $? = 0
configure:3627:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linu\x-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-V >&5
xgcc: '-V' must come at the start of the command line
configure:3638: $? = 1
configure:3627:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linu\x-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-qversion >&5
xgcc: unrecognized option '-qversion'
xgcc: no input files
configure:3638: $? = 1
configure:3658: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:3680:
/var/tmp/portage

[gentoo-user] trouble with locale and ca-certificates

2011-09-02 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On one machine an emerge of ca-certificates complains that my locale is
bad (details below).  In particular it asserts that filesystem encoding
is ANSI_X3.4-1968.

I followed the localization guide; now my locale seems right (although
filesystem encoding is not mentioned).

allan env.d # locale; locale -a
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
C
en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.utf8
POSIX
allan env.d # 

Nonetheless I still get the complaints with ca-certificates.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
allan


 * Messages for package app-misc/ca-certificates-20110502-r1:

 * Package:app-misc/ca-certificates-20110502-r1
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: base-sys...@gentoo.org
 * USE:amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU
 * FEATURES:   sandbox
 * Package:app-misc/ca-certificates-20110502-r1
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: base-sys...@gentoo.org
 * USE:amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU
 * FEATURES:   sandbox
 * This package installs one or more file names containing characters that
 * do not match your current locale settings. The current setting for
 * filesystem encoding is 'ANSI_X3.4-1968'.
 * 
 *  
usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/AC_Ra\ufffd\ufffdz_Certic\ufffd\ufffdmara_S.A..crt
 *  
usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/EBG_Elektronik_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sa\ufffd\ufffdlay\ufffd\ufffdc\ufffd\ufffds\ufffd\ufffd.crt
 *  
usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/NetLock_Arany_=Class_Gold=_F\ufffd\ufffdtan\ufffd\ufffds\ufffd\ufffdtv\ufffd\ufffdny.crt
 *  
usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/T\ufffd\ufffdB\ufffd\ufffdTAK_UEKAE_K\ufffd\ufffdk_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sa\ufffd\ufffdlay\ufffd\ufffdc\ufffd\ufffds\ufffd\ufffd_-_S\ufffd\ufffdr\ufffd\ufffdm_3.crt
 * 
 * For best results, UTF-8 encoding is recommended. See the Gentoo Linux
 * Localization Guide for instructions about how to configure your locale
 * for UTF-8 encoding:
 * 
 *  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Blakawk

On 02.09.2011 14:11, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Blakawk  wrote:


On 02.09.2011 12:16, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Dale  wrote:
>
>> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> > Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following
>> error
>> > when doing so:
>> >
>> > mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
>> > Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
>> > Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
>> > configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
>> > configure: loading site script
>> /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
>> > configure: loading site script
>> > /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
>> > configure: creating cache ./config.cache
>> > checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
>> > checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
>> > checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> > checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> > checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
>> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
>> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
>> > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
>> > checking for gawk... gawk
>> > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
>> > checking for
>> >
>> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc

>> > -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
>> > -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
>> -isystem
>> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
>> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
>> > checking for C compiler default output file name...
>> > configure: error: in
>> >
>> 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':

>> > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
>> > See `config.log' for more details.
>> >
>> > I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no 
joy.

>> >
>> > I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
>> >
>> > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>> >
>>
>> Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it
>> fails.
>> I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:
>>
>> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html
>>
>> That help any?
> Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things
> compile
> normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking
> for
> something more specific.

Please provide the so-called config.log to see what happened 
(normally

located in

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp/config.log).


OK, here is a section of config.log -- I hope its not too much.


COLLECT_GCC=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc

COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/lto-wrapper
Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Configured with:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/configure
--prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.3
--includedir=/u\sr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include
--datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3
--mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/man\
--infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/info

--with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include/g++-v4
--host=x86_64-pc-lin\ux-gnu --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--disable-altivec --disable-fixed-point --without-ppl --without-cloog
--disable-lto --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
\--with-system-zlib --disable-werror --enable-secureplt
--enable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp 
--enable-libgomp

--with-python-dir=/share/gcc-dat\a/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/python
--enable-checking=release --disable-libgcj
--enable-languages=c,c++,fortran --enable-shared 
--enable-threads=posix

--enable-\__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu
--with-bugurl=http://bugs.gentoo.org/ --with-pkgversion='Gentoo 
4.5.3-r1

p1.0, pie-0.4.5'
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.5.3 (Gentoo 4.5.3-r1 p1.0, pie-0.4.5)
configure:3638: $? = 0
configure:3627:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linu\x-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-V >&5
xgcc: '-V' must come at the start of the command line
configure:3638: $? = 1
configure:3627:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/x86_64-pc-linu\x-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-qversion >&5
xgcc: unrecognized option '-qversion'
xgcc: no input files
configure:3638: $? = 1
configure:3658: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:3680:
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, BRM  wrote:
> I still haven't decided what to get for my system to replace the NIC with, 
> but the card I have should be working with my existing 802.11g network 
> already; however, it doesn't - I have had to connect my laptop via Ethernet 
> cable to my wireless bridge to get network access.
>
> /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 starts, but goes immediately inactive. From what I can 
> find on-line, this seems to have been something common after moving to Base 
> Layout 2/OpenRC; however, I couldn't find anything that specified what the 
> actual solution was - I think most ended up doing a complete reinstall of 
> their wicd/wpa-supplicant software - either way details were lacking.  I've 
> successfully had wpa-supplicant working in the past, and as a result of all 
> of this I've tried to get it up through the other method too (iwconfig?), but 
> no success. (I think I have managed to get it to scan some, but not 
> sufficiently and certainly no connections.)

Did you followed the instructions at

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml

specifically the network section?

> Anyone see this issue and know what the solution is? I'd like to at least get 
> my 802.11g access back - the current setup is a bit of a pain and very 
> limiting.

Since you use a laptop, I will assume you have either KDE, GNOME or
Xfce. If that's the case, why don't you try NetworkManager or connman,
and use the GUI thingy to do the work for you? I haven't manually
configured a wireless network in years, and I have been the last three
months traveling with my laptop literally all over the world,
connecting to all kinds of access points.

NetworkMnager just works, but I also hear great comments about connman.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-02 Thread BRM
- Original Message -

> From: Canek Peláez Valdés 
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, BRM  wrote:
>>  I still haven't decided what to get for my system to replace the NIC 
> with, but the card I have should be working with my existing 802.11g network 
> already; however, it doesn't - I have had to connect my laptop via Ethernet 
> cable to my wireless bridge to get network access.
>> 
>>  /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 starts, but goes immediately inactive. From what I 
> can find on-line, this seems to have been something common after moving to 
> Base 
> Layout 2/OpenRC; however, I couldn't find anything that specified what the 
> actual solution was - I think most ended up doing a complete reinstall of 
> their 
> wicd/wpa-supplicant software - either way details were lacking.  I've 
> successfully had wpa-supplicant working in the past, and as a result of all 
> of 
> this I've tried to get it up through the other method too (iwconfig?), but 
> no success. (I think I have managed to get it to scan some, but not 
> sufficiently 
> and certainly no connections.)
> 
> Did you followed the instructions at
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml
> 
> specifically the network section?

Yes, I believe so. It's been a while since I made the migration, but the 
wireless configuration seems to have broken about the same time.

The wired configuration works just fine, and the guide mentions nothing about 
Wireless changes - e.g. WPA Supplicant - and that's where the problem is.
 
>>  Anyone see this issue and know what the solution is? I'd like to at 
> least get my 802.11g access back - the current setup is a bit of a pain and 
> very 
> limiting.
> 
> Since you use a laptop, I will assume you have either KDE, GNOME or
> Xfce. If that's the case, why don't you try NetworkManager or connman,
> and use the GUI thingy to do the work for you? I haven't manually
> configured a wireless network in years, and I have been the last three
> months traveling with my laptop literally all over the world,
> connecting to all kinds of access points.
> NetworkMnager just works, but I also hear great comments about connman.

I'm using KDE, yes. I've tried the tools but it doesn't seem to ever scan for a 
wireless network on its own, and the scans I have been able to force don't 
result in a connection - they don't even find the network I'm trying to attach 
it to.  Prior to the change, I could get WPA Supplicant to connect to my 
wireless, though I did have to have it specifically configured to do so. It 
wouldn't typically work using the tools for the one wireless network, while I 
could get it to for others (hotels, other places, etc.).

I have added another network that is configured a little differently that I 
would prefer to connect to (over the old one), but at the moment I'll take 
either. (The new 802.11g network uses WPA2; the old one uses WEP+Shared.)

Ben




[gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
Hi,

I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
Location is not important, but preferable in EU.

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread Dale

cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-g -O2 -mtune=core2 -pipe\ -ggdb
conftest.c>&5


Why is the slash behind pipe up there?  Shouldn't -pipe/ be pipe?

Hope that is the fix.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread covici
Dale  wrote:

> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-g -O2 -mtune=core2 -pipe\ -ggdb
> > conftest.c>&5
> 
> Why is the slash behind pipe up there?  Shouldn't -pipe/ be pipe?
> 
> Hope that is the fix.

It looks like an artifact of the config, its not there in make.conf.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1

2011-09-02 Thread covici
Blakawk  wrote:

> On 02.09.2011 14:11, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Blakawk  wrote:
> >
> >> On 02.09.2011 12:16, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> > Dale  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >> > Hi.  I am unable to compile gcc 4.5.3-r1 -- I get the following
> >> >> error
> >> >> > when doing so:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mkdir -p -- x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> >> >> > Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
> >> >> > Configuring stage 1 in x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
> >> >> > configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
> >> >> > configure: loading site script
> >> >> /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
> >> >> > configure: loading site script
> >> >> > /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/x86_64-linux-gnu
> >> >> > configure: creating cache ./config.cache
> >> >> > checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
> >> >> > checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
> >> >> > checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> >> > checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> >> > checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> >> >> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> >> >> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> >> >> > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
> >> >> > checking for gawk... gawk
> >> >> > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> >> >> > checking for
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... 
> >> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
> >> >> > -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gc\c/
> >> >> > -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
> >> >> -isystem
> >> >> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
> >> >> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
> >> >> > checking for C compiler default output file name...
> >> >> > configure: error: in
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
> >> >> > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> >> >> > See `config.log' for more details.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have searched google and looked at bugs.gentoo.org, but no
> >> joy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am running unstable amd64 gentoo.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any assistance would be appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Google worked here for me but usually when I have a problem, it
> >> >> fails.
> >> >> I guess Google treats you the same as me.  lol  I found this:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-294109.html
> >> >>
> >> >> That help any?
> >> > Nope, this only happens in that specific situation, most things
> >> > compile
> >> > normally.  I didn't see that post for that reason -- I was looking
> >> > for
> >> > something more specific.
> >>
> >> Please provide the so-called config.log to see what happened
> >> (normally
> >> located in
> >>
> >> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp/config.log).
> >
> > OK, here is a section of config.log -- I hope its not too much.
> >
> >
> > COLLECT_GCC=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
> >
> > COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/lto-wrapper
> > Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> > Configured with:
> > /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/configure
> > --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.3
> > --includedir=/u\sr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include
> > --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3
> > --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/man\
> > --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/info
> >
> > --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include/g++-v4
> > --host=x86_64-pc-lin\ux-gnu --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
> > --disable-altivec --disable-fixed-point --without-ppl --without-cloog
> > --disable-lto --enable-nls --without-included-gettext
> > \--with-system-zlib --disable-werror --enable-secureplt
> > --enable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp
> > --enable-libgomp
> > --with-python-dir=/share/gcc-dat\a/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/python
> > --enable-checking=release --disable-libgcj
> > --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran --enable-shared
> > --enable-threads=posix
> > --enable-\__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu
> > --with-bugurl=http://bugs.gentoo.org/ --with-pkgversion='Gentoo
> > 4.5.3-r1
> > p1.0, pie-0.4.5'
> > Thread model: posix
> > gcc version 4.5.3 (Gentoo 4.5.3-r1 p1.0, pie-0.4.5)
> > configure:3638: $? = 0
> > configure:3627:
> > /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
> > -B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/./gcc/
> > -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linu\x-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
> > -isystem /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
> > /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include-V >&5
> > xgcc: '-V' must come at the start of the command line
> > configure:3638: $? = 1
> > configure:3627:
> > /v

Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread AGagliardi

Il 02/09/2011 15:41, Nilesh Govindarajan ha scritto:

Hi,

I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
Location is not important, but preferable in EU.



how much is cheap?
kimsufi starts from 18 euro / month (not tried)
ovh starts from 60 euro / month (tried and great tools/service but a bit 
unstable in first days)


a.


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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-02 Thread Mick
On Friday 02 Sep 2011 00:27:58 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:32:11 -0400
> 
> Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> > > Happily, there was a nice pretty lady from Samsung in the office 3
> > > months ago wanting to sell the 900X Macbook Air knock-off into the
> > > company. The IT manager didn't know what to do with the demo she
> > > left behind so I knicked it for myself (sans paperwork of course.
> > > Makes it easier to prolong how long it takes to test properly) and
> > > it's running Ubuntu. Memory issues are a thing of the past and
> > > everything behaves just like it should. Even  flash.
> > 
> > That saddens me a little. Of all the friends and coworkers I have, I'm
> > the only one left using Gentoo. All of them switched to Fedora, or
> > Ubuntu, or OpenSuSE.
> 
> I completely understand how you feel. But, I'm enjoying this break from
> Gentoo. Note I said "break", not "leave behind".
> 
> It will take 3 to 6 weeks for me to make up my mind what monster Dell I
> want next, assault Purchasing to make them approve it then have it
> built in Ireland and shipped to ZA.

I must have words with Dell!!!

Mine was built in China and shipped from China ... twice, because the 
horrendous courier they use did not deliver it.


> That's about enough time I think to run into the Ubuntu "you will do it
> our way with the deps we want you to have" philosophy enough times to
> drive me back to gentoo. 

I have a laptop which is only used occasionally and (K)Ubuntu is a good use 
case for it.  Keeping it up to date does not take long with more or less 
vanilla Kubuntu settings and because the user needs are not particularly 
demanding Ubuntu has filled the OS role admirably.  Doing this with Gentoo 
would require much more attention and time from me.  However, I would not use 
Ubuntu for my needs.  Very much like Alan says, there is an annoying 
underlying feeling of "all your OS belongs to us".

> But the next machine will not have KDE on it -
> all this RAM nonsense started by trying to get Akonadi to work, for very
> loose definitions of "work", such as "show me my mail sometime today"
> 
> e17 beckons.

Let us know which mail client you end up with.  Although I now use e17 and 
before that I used a rather edited Fluxbox (I avoid bloatware DEs if I can 
help it) I am still using kmail because attempts to adopt other mail clients 
ended up in disappointment.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:33:56 +0100
Mick  wrote:

> > But the next machine will not have KDE on it -
> > all this RAM nonsense started by trying to get Akonadi to work, for
> > very loose definitions of "work", such as "show me my mail sometime
> > today"
> > 
> > e17 beckons.  
> 
> Let us know which mail client you end up with.  Although I now use
> e17 and before that I used a rather edited Fluxbox (I avoid bloatware
> DEs if I can help it) I am still using kmail because attempts to
> adopt other mail clients ended up in disappointment.

At the moment I'm using claws and it seems quite fine. It has it's
funnies (mostly just different behaviour from kmail actually) so I need
to rewire my brain a bit.

It wants to wait for me to manually expunge folders, and I haven't quite
figured out how to always get it to use the correct .sig (a few times
my work .sig got used on mailing lists where I always use gmail), but
claws has these two amazing features that make it a killer app for me:

- it will not ever compose html mail but does a decent job of display it
when received
- it actually sends, receives and stores mail (akonadi users will
  appreciate how a mailer can get to make that insanely more complex
  than it needs to be)



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...

2011-09-02 Thread Mick
On Friday 02 Sep 2011 14:38:56 BRM wrote:
> - Original Message -
> 
> > From: Canek Peláez Valdés 
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, BRM  wrote:
> >>  I still haven't decided what to get for my system to replace the NIC
> > 
> > with, but the card I have should be working with my existing 802.11g
> > network already; however, it doesn't - I have had to connect my laptop
> > via Ethernet cable to my wireless bridge to get network access.
> > 
> >>  /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 starts, but goes immediately inactive. From what
> >>  I
> > 
> > can find on-line, this seems to have been something common after moving
> > to Base Layout 2/OpenRC; however, I couldn't find anything that
> > specified what the actual solution was - I think most ended up doing a
> > complete reinstall of their wicd/wpa-supplicant software - either way
> > details were lacking.  I've successfully had wpa-supplicant working in
> > the past, and as a result of all of this I've tried to get it up through
> > the other method too (iwconfig?), but no success. (I think I have
> > managed to get it to scan some, but not sufficiently and certainly no
> > connections.)
> > 
> > Did you followed the instructions at
> > 
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml
> > 
> > specifically the network section?
> 
> Yes, I believe so. It's been a while since I made the migration, but the
> wireless configuration seems to have broken about the same time.
> 
> The wired configuration works just fine, and the guide mentions nothing
> about Wireless changes - e.g. WPA Supplicant - and that's where the
> problem is. 
> 
> >>  Anyone see this issue and know what the solution is? I'd like to at
> > 
> > least get my 802.11g access back - the current setup is a bit of a pain
> > and very limiting.
> > 
> > Since you use a laptop, I will assume you have either KDE, GNOME or
> > Xfce. If that's the case, why don't you try NetworkManager or connman,
> > and use the GUI thingy to do the work for you? I haven't manually
> > configured a wireless network in years, and I have been the last three
> > months traveling with my laptop literally all over the world,
> > connecting to all kinds of access points.
> > NetworkMnager just works, but I also hear great comments about connman.
> 
> I'm using KDE, yes. I've tried the tools but it doesn't seem to ever scan
> for a wireless network on its own, and the scans I have been able to force
> don't result in a connection - they don't even find the network I'm trying
> to attach it to.  Prior to the change, I could get WPA Supplicant to
> connect to my wireless, though I did have to have it specifically
> configured to do so. It wouldn't typically work using the tools for the
> one wireless network, while I could get it to for others (hotels, other
> places, etc.).
> 
> I have added another network that is configured a little differently that I
> would prefer to connect to (over the old one), but at the moment I'll take
> either. (The new 802.11g network uses WPA2; the old one uses WEP+Shared.)

Assuming that you have built in your kernel or loaded the driver module for 
your NIC and any firmware blobs have also been loaded, please show:

 /etc/conf.d/net 

and  

 grep ^[^#] /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: 10 G eth (10000) on Gentoo

2011-09-02 Thread James
Adam Carter  gmail.com> writes:


> Looks like intel made multiqueue available in Nov. 2010. You can set
> up to 16 queues.
> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/14687/eng/README.txt


Thanks guys, for the discussion. Kinda reminds me back in
in the day of "jumbo frames" and the arguments as to if/when
jumbo frame support helps in routing.

Any anecdotal comments as to how poor-bad 10 G eth crawls/fails
on a Microsoft server, would give me ammo to shoot down
the opposition...


James







[gentoo-user] equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread James
SO

It is time to remove 
dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

But, I do not believe the results of this
command, as python-2.7x has been installed 
on this system for some time. I have updated
many times with -D and rebuild @system recently.

Still many packages are listed as depending specifically
on dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2.


Is there a better command/syntax to use to flush out
what is still dependent on an old/slotted version
of python. python-updater is periodically run on the
system, just in case anyone thinks that is the issue.


curiously,
James






[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread James
James  tampabay.rr.com> writes:


> It is time to remove 
> dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

emerge --depclean -pv =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

>>> Calculating removal order...

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 dev-lang/python
selected: 2.6.6-r2 
   protected: none 
 omitted: 2.7.1-r1 3.1.3-r1 

All selected packages: dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
Packages installed:   1289
Packages in world:101
Packages in system:   45
Required packages:1287
Number to remove: 1


CAN I TRUST this syntax to test for packages to remove?


James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM, James  wrote:
> James  tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>
>> It is time to remove
>> dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
>
> emerge --depclean -pv =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
>
 Calculating removal order...
>
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
>
>  dev-lang/python
>    selected: 2.6.6-r2
>   protected: none
>     omitted: 2.7.1-r1 3.1.3-r1
>
> All selected packages: dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2
> Packages installed:   1289
> Packages in world:    101
> Packages in system:   45
> Required packages:    1287
> Number to remove:     1
>
>
> CAN I TRUST this syntax to test for packages to remove?
>
>
> James
>

I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just -C?

Prior to doing anything please ensure that you have eselect python
setup correctly for a python-2.7 package that's on the machine.

HTH,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, James  wrote:

> Is there a better command/syntax to use to flush out
> what is still dependent on an old/slotted version
> of python. python-updater is periodically run on the
> system, just in case anyone thinks that is the issue.

Sorry, I should have addressed this last question. Try:

equery depends python-2.6.6-r2

and carefully go through the output posting back any addition info and
questions.

HTH,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread James
Mark Knecht  gmail.com> writes:


> > emerge --depclean -pv =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just -C?

I found this syntax googling (hi Neil)...

Since the purpose is to remove pacakges, I guess depclean works the
best? Dunno really, just found it googling.

> Prior to doing anything please ensure that you have eselect python
> setup correctly for a python-2.7 package that's on the machine.

It has been set to 2.7 for a long time.






[gentoo-user] Re: Problems with KDE & Flash after moving to dual adapter

2011-09-02 Thread Mark Knecht
Anyone?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Mark Knecht  wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'm wondering what experience (and hopefully guidance) others can
> provide to hopefully fix these new problems on my compute server.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>   OK, yesterday I added a second NVidia adapter to my machine and
> used nvidia-settings to create a new xorg.conf file. (Both new and old
> are shown at the end) The new setup came up easily and I now have 3
> monitors. Here's the setup:
>
> GTX 465 port 0 -> GPU-0 + DFP-0
> GTX 465 port 1 -> GPU-0 + DFP-2
>
> 8400GS port 0 -> GPU-1 + CRT-1
>
>   To get this working I had to enable the xinerama use flag as well
> as enable Xinerama in xorg.conf.
>
> Some simple tests of functionality:
>
> 1) glxgears is functional on all 3 displays but only draws actual
> graphics on the two GTX465 monitors. It draws a black window on the
> 8400GS. It is my understanding that this is expected.
>
> 2) Both Virtualbox and VMWare VM's work fine on all 3 monitors. If the
> VMs are running Windows then Flash, Java & Silverlight seem to work
> fine on any display. I can play NetFlix movies and run other Windows
> apps from within the VMs without any major problems so far.
>
> Problems:
>
> 1) Adobe flash within Linux is not working at some websites, such as:
>
> http://www.jigsawdoku.com/
>
> For this page the flash game area is just gray. Flash does however
> seem to work on other sites like Adobe's web site so possibly this is
> more an issue with that page but I've seen a couple of others so far
> that do the same thing.
>
>
> 2) Two KDE features that I like quite a lot are not working at all:
>
> a) F8 - display all desktops doesn't work. With the original 2
> monitors the feature worked fine.
>
> b) The upper left corner 'display all apps' feature is not working.
>
>   I've been Googling around without any luck in terms of finding
> things to try in terms of fixing this, or even discovering that maybe
> these things simply don't work with two adapters. Maybe there are some
> accelerations or features I need to enable that nvidia-settings don't
> do for me? I don't know.
>
>   Note that in the older 2 monitor configuration I was using Twinview
> which treats the two monitors as a single large monitor.
>
>   Thanks in advance for any ideas about how to get this working at its best.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
> [New 3 monitor xorg.conf]
>
> # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
> # nvidia-settings:  version 275.09.07
> (buildmeis...@swio-display-x86-rhel47-03.nvidia.com)  Wed Jun  8
> 14:38:19 PDT 2011
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>    Identifier     "Layout0"
>    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>    Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
>    Screen      2  "Screen2" RightOf "Screen1"
>    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>    Option         "Xinerama" "1"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Files"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>    # generated from data in "/etc/conf.d/gpm"
>    Identifier     "Mouse0"
>    Driver         "mouse"
>    Option         "Protocol"
>    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
>    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>    # generated from default
>    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
>    Driver         "kbd"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
>    Identifier     "Monitor1"
>    VendorName     "Unknown"
>    ModelName      "Samsung SyncMaster"
>    HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
>    VertRefresh     56.0 - 61.0
>    Option         "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
>    Identifier     "Monitor0"
>    VendorName     "Unknown"
>    ModelName      "Samsung SyncMaster"
>    HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
>    VertRefresh     56.0 - 61.0
>    Option         "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>    # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
>    Identifier     "Monitor2"
>    VendorName     "Unknown"
>    ModelName      "Samsung SyncMaster"
>    HorizSync       30.0 - 81.0
>    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
>    Option         "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>    Identifier     "Device1"
>    Driver         "nvidia"
>    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>    BoardName      "GeForce GTX 465"
>    BusID          "PCI:2:0:0"
>    Screen          1
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>    Identifier     "Device0"
>    Driver         "nvidia"
>    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>    BoardName      "GeForce GTX 465"
>    BusID          "PCI:2:0:0"
>    Screen          0
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>    Identifier     "Device2"
>    Driver         "nvidia"
>    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>    BoardName      "GeForce 8400GS"
>    BusID          "PCI:4:0:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>    Identifier     "Screen1"
>    Device         "Device1"
>    Monitor    

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with locale and ca-certificates

2011-09-02 Thread Hans Müller
Am Freitag, 2. September 2011, 08:19:59 schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
> On one machine an emerge of ca-certificates complains that my locale is
> bad (details below).  In particular it asserts that filesystem encoding
> is ANSI_X3.4-1968.
> 
> I followed the localization guide; now my locale seems right (although
> filesystem encoding is not mentioned).
> 
> allan env.d # locale; locale -a
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
> C
> en_US
> en_US.iso88591
> en_US.utf8
> POSIX
> allan env.d #
> 
> Nonetheless I still get the complaints with ca-certificates.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> thanks,
> allan

Hi,

did you try to set LC_CTYPE (and perhaps the others also) to 'en_US.utf8'?

Regards




Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with locale and ca-certificates

2011-09-02 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Sep 02 2011, Hans Müller wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> did you try to set LC_CTYPE (and perhaps the others also) to 'en_US.utf8'?
>
> Regards

Bingo!  Funny that the value recommended in the gentoo localization
guide is (for german)

LANG="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="C"

which I why I used UTF-8.

Thank you very much!
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 10 G eth (10000) on Gentoo

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Mol
Honestly, I'd just test. There are so many factors that the only way to know
the appropriate choice is to try...
On Sep 2, 2011 11:35 AM, "James"  wrote:
> Adam Carter  gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>> Looks like intel made multiqueue available in Nov. 2010. You can set
>> up to 16 queues.
>> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/14687/eng/README.txt
>
>
> Thanks guys, for the discussion. Kinda reminds me back in
> in the day of "jumbo frames" and the arguments as to if/when
> jumbo frame support helps in routing.
>
> Any anecdotal comments as to how poor-bad 10 G eth crawls/fails
> on a Microsoft server, would give me ammo to shoot down
> the opposition...
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>


[gentoo-user] My keyboards works, when not exspected ?!?

2011-09-02 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

this posting is somehow the opposite of an error report: My keyboard 
works and I dont know why...

The board is a PS2 one, connected via a Belkin PS2-USB converter
(active) to an USB port.

Exept of a few and seldom stuck CTRL-key situations it works fine.

BUT!
When starting xkeycaps, selecting the correct keyboard (102 keys,
german QWERT, wide Enter with Tall delete), and typing, magic
happens:
Cursor Left flashes ALT SHIFT on xkeycaps. 
Cursor Right flashes PRINT...
ALT Shift flashes Numblock-Enter
and some more.

So, if I will spy some keycode with xev for being used to keysym
to key in urxvt...will I configure nonsense?

Who can I trust more: Me or xkeycaps?

Thank you very much for your help in advance!
Best regards
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 02.09.2011 18:09, schrieb Mark Knecht:

> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just -C?

If you unmerge with -C you have to be sure that nothing needs it as a
dependency. Using --depclean helps because it checks that and only
unmerges if nothing needs it as a dependency anymore.

Greetings

Sebastian



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Sebastian Beßler
 wrote:
> Am 02.09.2011 18:09, schrieb Mark Knecht:
>
>> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just -C?
>
> If you unmerge with -C you have to be sure that nothing needs it as a
> dependency. Using --depclean helps because it checks that and only
> unmerges if nothing needs it as a dependency anymore.
>
> Greetings
>
> Sebastian

Fair enough. Thanks. Presumably the use of --depclean doesn't work
until you're clear with emerge -DuN @world?

I've used this stuff so long I've not learned many of the newer tricks
I think. Good stuff.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.6.6-r2

2011-09-02 Thread Brennan Shacklett
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Mark Knecht  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Sebastian Beßler
>  wrote:
> > Am 02.09.2011 18:09, schrieb Mark Knecht:
> >
> >> I believe you can trust it, but why use --depclean instead of just -C?
> >
> > If you unmerge with -C you have to be sure that nothing needs it as a
> > dependency. Using --depclean helps because it checks that and only
> > unmerges if nothing needs it as a dependency anymore.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Sebastian
>
> Fair enough. Thanks. Presumably the use of --depclean doesn't work
> until you're clear with emerge -DuN @world?
>
> I've used this stuff so long I've not learned many of the newer tricks
> I think. Good stuff.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
It depends on the package you're trying to remove, but often in my
experience when using depclean on a single package it works fine without
updating world.
Also, -c is an alias for --depclean.


Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Bill Longman
On 09/02/2011 06:41 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
> Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.

Isn't this an oxymoron?



Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
> Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
> Location is not important, but preferable in EU.
>
> --
> Nilesh Govindarajan
> http://nileshgr.com


I don't know of any dedicated services that meet your requirements, but is
it a hard requirement that the server be dedicated? VPSs can be just as
stable as a dedicated and are usually much cheaper. KVM and Xen environments
are becoming much more prevalent. What type of storage/memory requirements
do you have, if you don't mind me asking?

- Matt

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Carter
> I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
> Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
> Location is not important, but preferable in EU.

Amazon EC2 does Gentoo... Big name may help you sell to management.



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-09-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:28:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> At the moment I'm using claws and it seems quite fine. It has it's
> funnies (mostly just different behaviour from kmail actually) so I need
> to rewire my brain a bit.

I *really* like Claws Mail, I never liked KMail. In fact, removing KDEPIM
is the best way to improve KDE.

> It wants to wait for me to manually expunge folders, and I haven't quite

Account Preferences>Advanced>Move deleted mail to trash and expunge
immediately

> figured out how to always get it to use the correct .sig (a few times
> my work .sig got used on mailing lists where I always use gmail), but
> claws has these two amazing features that make it a killer app for me:

Set up a different (SMTP-only if necessary) account for each address and
specify the sig. You can set the default account to use for a folder,
which means you always use the correct address on a mailing list. If no
default account is set, Claws will default to using the account that the
mail you are replying to was sent to.

> - it actually sends, receives and stores mail (akonadi users will
>   appreciate how a mailer can get to make that insanely more complex
>   than it needs to be)

I'm so glad I ditched KMail before akonadi and friends came along.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Why is the word abbreviation so long?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On 09/03/2011 04:26 AM, Adam Carter wrote:
>> I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
>> Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
>> Location is not important, but preferable in EU.
> 
> Amazon EC2 does Gentoo... Big name may help you sell to management.
> 

@everyone,
I already know about a VPS provider, with reliability, and Gentoo
support. Been with them since 2008. cheapvps.co.uk, if you're
interested. They have xen, kvm & openvz (us-only).

For dedicated I know just one for now- hetzner.de, who allows you to
install your own os (you're provided with a rescue system).

If you know any more dedicated providers, please reply. I'll compare
their rates :)
Definition of cheap is fairly relative :)

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com



[gentoo-user] xorg.xonf, Input_class keyboard

2011-09-02 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

in my xorg.conf I have set this:


Section "InputClass"
Identifier "keyboard-all"
Driver "evdev"
# Option "XkbOptions"  
"ctrl:nocaps,compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,caps:super"
MatchIsKeyboard "on"
EndSection


but neither "ZAP" (ctrl-alt-backspace)  nor caps-lock as Super-key
work. the Dont_Zap option is not set ...


When Caps-Lock is pressed, xev prints:

KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x241,
root 0x124, subw 0x0, time 1516416, (78,125), root:(1717,147),
state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " "
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) "   "
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x241,
root 0x124, subw 0x0, time 1516552, (78,125), root:(1717,147),
state 0x10, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (09) " "
XFilterEvent returns: False


How can I install/activate/repair the above settings?


Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
mcc