Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:39:25 -0500, Dale wrote: Arsenic, strychnine or cyanide is large enough doses do that :) Gosh, you're extreme ... :-P I use Gentoo, don't I? Nah, he just likes to pick on me. ;-) That too ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Don't let your mind wander, it's too little to be let out alone. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
I ended up learning how to build my own kernel with Google, basically. I've learned about timers (HPET), chipset, sata controllers, the sata/pata drivers in linux, sound architecture (alsa/oss/pulseaudio), debugging file systems and messages, about the serial terminal (stty0), about kexec, DRM + KMS... Just read the HELP pages (I use make menuconfig for configuration, but xconfig and gconfig should give you the help pages too) and when in doubt set the default option.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 05:26:45 -0300, Spidey wrote: Just read the HELP pages (I use make menuconfig for configuration, but xconfig and gconfig should give you the help pages too) and when in doubt set the default option. The search function is useful too, press / in menuconfig. -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a novel sold with software, designed to entertain the operator during episodes of bugs or glitches. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
Pandu Poluan writes: That said... I am not aware that to be a Gentoo user, one has to be celibate... :-P But it helps. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Lavender 448463782 at qq.com writes: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! Lots of good information has been provided by other. Here is another approach., I do not have the link handy, but you can look at the docs and there is a place that tells you (steps) how to copy the kernel that is provided on the installation cd/dvd to use an your initial boot kernel. It should work, but maybe with lots of extra stuff you do not need. Then you can use grub to have several bootable kernels, the one you actually boot off us is selected a few seconds after you power up. This way you can get your system working (bootable) and then take you time pruning the options and learning about building kernels. It's easy, here one of my /boot/grub/grub.conf files: (this one even will boot a doz, if that is installed too: default 2 fallback 1 timeout 15 #splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz #0 title=kernel-2.6.36-gentoo-r8 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.36-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/sda3 video=1024x768 #1 title=kernel-2.6.38-gentoo-r6 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.38-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/sda3 video=1024x768 #2 title=kernel-2.6.39-gentoo-r3 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.39-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/sda3 video=1024x768 title= XP PRO rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Let me know if you have trouble finding that link for copying the kernel off of the install media to you hard drive. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: inkscape emerge
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: Well, first of all I can report that no version of inkscape in portage works with visio (6.2) files. I've read several places that it should work, but it croaks upon loading the visio (version 6.2) file Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-10-07, Michael Molmikemol at gmail.com wrote: Remove the -p to have portage go ahead and try to remove them. (But you might see something you want to have remain, which is why you should use -p first) Yes, I got this but in the past depclean has failed or come up miserably short. BUT now, it works very well, not only removing the 12 packages that where in stalled with the stabler version of inkscape but the latest (`) version, I had to install with this syntax: emerge -u inkscape --autounmask-write I'm thinking that ZAK(a_roo_ski) deserves a bunch of BREW_skis ? If the past depclean has disappointed me, particularly when packages were installed with automask... or other sorts of gymnastical syntax.. or just use emerge -n package name. Same thing plus portage puts it in alphabetical order too. Dale It's always good to hear from my favorite track_TOR driving admin. I'm looking to get a small bucket/hoe combo (3-foot/6-inch) for under 10K. Got any suggestions? You mounted an embedded gentoo system on that tractor yet? (for real, not just pulling you leg) ? We gotta get you linked in on that tracter.. with some pics or a video feed ;-) So, I was really trolling for expertise in manipulating visio files via some native linux package. Inkscape was all that google searches returned, and Inkscape could not even load up the visio (.vsd) files... I guess I was not too clear on that point. Oh well, I just had the doz dude send me pdfs. Thanks to all for the help! James
Re: 回复： [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Lavender 448463782 at qq.com writes: Thank you all ! Thanks for helping , now I know which things I should do . http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#livecd-kernel Hello Lavender, At the end of your last thread, I mentioned how to copy a kernel from the boot/install media. The link about should get right there (Section 2.8). Once you get a booted kernel, then is just a matter of time and effort until you get a target kernel to work. I always keep at least 2 bootable kernels on any given system. hth, James
[gentoo-user] transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. env-update etc-update do not help... What tool do I have to call to acchieve this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything.
Re: [gentoo-user] transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:33:52 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. env-update etc-update do not help... What tool do I have to call to acchieve this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! That's not how it works. The files in /etc/conf.d are not included in config files at all, they are arguments used when the app is launched. For example, sshd: SSHD_CONFDIR=/etc/ssh SSHD_OPTS= SSHD_PIDFILE=/var/run/sshd.pid SSHD_BINARY=/usr/sbin/sshd None of those items can go in sshd_config except maybe the pid file, but that can be specified on the command-line. The Gentoo init system reads conf.d and uses the info in it to determine hwo to launch the app. There is other stuff in /etc/conf.d not related to specific daemons, but the same principle applies - the system reads the files and does the appropriate thing at strat-up. I believe you may have the intent of conf.d and env.d confused? -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. env-update etc-update do not help... What tool do I have to call to acchieve this? /etc/conf.d is like /etc/sysconfig in RedHat/Fedora and /etc/default in Debian: they were introduced to pass environment variables and (cometimes) extra arguments to the daemons in /etc/init.d. So, if you have /etc/init.d/foo, you can put environment variables and (perhaps) extra args for the daemon in /etc/conf.d/foo. You don't need to transfer anything; when you do /etc/init.d/foo start the variables in /etc/conf.d/foo are readed and passed to the daemon. It's a distro specific directory (again, like /etc/sysconfig in RedHat/Fedora and /etc/default in Debian), and the real configuration of the daemon will probably be on /etc/foo (if at all). The new init systemd doesn't need this kind of distro-specific thing, instead pushing the configuration where it belongs, only in /etc/foo (or whatever). I highly recommend it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 19:52]: On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything. The reason I thought, that those settings in /etc/conf.d is due to a warning of the rkhunter tool: [03:23:21] Performing system configuration file checks [03:23:21] Info: Starting test name 'system_configs' [03:23:21] Checking for SSH configuration file [ Found ] [03:23:21] Info: Found SSH configuration file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_ROOT_USER set to 'no'. [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_PROT_V1 set to '0'. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH root access is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'PermitRootLogin' has not been set. The default value may be 'yes', to allow root access. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH protocol v1 is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'Protocol' has not been set. The default value may be '2,1', to allow the use of protocol version 1. [03:23:22] Checking for running syslog daemon [ Not found ] [03:23:22] Info: The syslog daemon is not running, but a metalog daemon has been found. [03:23:22] Checking for syslog configuration file [ Not found ] Now I see, that it seems to check simply the wrong file. I think it would be an idea to patch rkhunter to be more compliant to the setup of the gentoo system ?! From own experience I know that a lot false warnings of such tools dull the sigth on to the real threads... Only my two cents, your currency may vary... ;) Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On 10/10/2011 09:45 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 19:52]: On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything. The reason I thought, that those settings in /etc/conf.d is due to a warning of the rkhunter tool: [03:23:21] Performing system configuration file checks [03:23:21] Info: Starting test name 'system_configs' [03:23:21] Checking for SSH configuration file [ Found ] [03:23:21] Info: Found SSH configuration file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_ROOT_USER set to 'no'. [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_PROT_V1 set to '0'. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH root access is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'PermitRootLogin' has not been set. The default value may be 'yes', to allow root access. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH protocol v1 is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'Protocol' has not been set. The default value may be '2,1', to allow the use of protocol version 1. [03:23:22] Checking for running syslog daemon [ Not found ] [03:23:22] Info: The syslog daemon is not running, but a metalog daemon has been found. [03:23:22] Checking for syslog configuration file [ Not found ] Now I see, that it seems to check simply the wrong file. I think it would be an idea to patch rkhunter to be more compliant to the setup of the gentoo system ?! From own experience I know that a lot false warnings of such tools dull the sigth on to the real threads... It's checking the correct file. Simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to your liking. /etc/conf.d/ is not for those kind of settings; it's read-in by Gentoo's init system and other infrastructure.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 20:56]: On 10/10/2011 09:45 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 19:52]: On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything. The reason I thought, that those settings in /etc/conf.d is due to a warning of the rkhunter tool: [03:23:21] Performing system configuration file checks [03:23:21] Info: Starting test name 'system_configs' [03:23:21] Checking for SSH configuration file [ Found ] [03:23:21] Info: Found SSH configuration file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_ROOT_USER set to 'no'. [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_PROT_V1 set to '0'. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH root access is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'PermitRootLogin' has not been set. The default value may be 'yes', to allow root access. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH protocol v1 is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'Protocol' has not been set. The default value may be '2,1', to allow the use of protocol version 1. [03:23:22] Checking for running syslog daemon [ Not found ] [03:23:22] Info: The syslog daemon is not running, but a metalog daemon has been found. [03:23:22] Checking for syslog configuration file [ Not found ] Now I see, that it seems to check simply the wrong file. I think it would be an idea to patch rkhunter to be more compliant to the setup of the gentoo system ?! From own experience I know that a lot false warnings of such tools dull the sigth on to the real threads... It's checking the correct file. Simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to your liking. /etc/conf.d/ is not for those kind of settings; it's read-in by Gentoo's init system and other infrastructure. Now I am a little more confused... What is the purpose of this file? : /etc/conf.d/sshd with this contents: # /etc/conf.d/sshd: config file for /etc/init.d/sshd # Where is your sshd_config file stored? SSHD_CONFDIR=/etc/ssh # Any random options you want to pass to sshd. # See the sshd(8) manpage for more info. SSHD_OPTS= # Pid file to use (needs to be absolute path). #SSHD_PIDFILE=/var/run/sshd.pid # Path to the sshd binary (needs to be absolute path). #SSHD_BINARY=/usr/sbin/sshd if /etc/ssh/sshd_config is for configuration of sshd's options...for what purpose is /etc/conf.d/sshd then ? And what files gets overwritten when installing a new version of sshd? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 20:56]: On 10/10/2011 09:45 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 19:52]: On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything. The reason I thought, that those settings in /etc/conf.d is due to a warning of the rkhunter tool: [03:23:21] Performing system configuration file checks [03:23:21] Info: Starting test name 'system_configs' [03:23:21] Checking for SSH configuration file [ Found ] [03:23:21] Info: Found SSH configuration file: /etc/ssh/sshd_config [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_ROOT_USER set to 'no'. [03:23:21] Info: Rkhunter option ALLOW_SSH_PROT_V1 set to '0'. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH root access is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'PermitRootLogin' has not been set. The default value may be 'yes', to allow root access. [03:23:21] Checking if SSH protocol v1 is allowed [ Warning ] [03:23:21] Warning: The SSH configuration option 'Protocol' has not been set. The default value may be '2,1', to allow the use of protocol version 1. [03:23:22] Checking for running syslog daemon [ Not found ] [03:23:22] Info: The syslog daemon is not running, but a metalog daemon has been found. [03:23:22] Checking for syslog configuration file [ Not found ] Now I see, that it seems to check simply the wrong file. I think it would be an idea to patch rkhunter to be more compliant to the setup of the gentoo system ?! From own experience I know that a lot false warnings of such tools dull the sigth on to the real threads... It's checking the correct file. Simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to your liking. /etc/conf.d/ is not for those kind of settings; it's read-in by Gentoo's init system and other infrastructure. Now I am a little more confused... What is the purpose of this file? : /etc/conf.d/sshd with this contents: # /etc/conf.d/sshd: config file for /etc/init.d/sshd # Where is your sshd_config file stored? SSHD_CONFDIR=/etc/ssh # Any random options you want to pass to sshd. # See the sshd(8) manpage for more info. SSHD_OPTS= # Pid file to use (needs to be absolute path). #SSHD_PIDFILE=/var/run/sshd.pid # Path to the sshd binary (needs to be absolute path). #SSHD_BINARY=/usr/sbin/sshd if /etc/ssh/sshd_config is for configuration of sshd's options...for what purpose is /etc/conf.d/sshd then ? It's a Gentoo-ism. It's for the (highly unlikely) case of you having your sshd_config file in a directory different from /etc/ssh, and to pass other arguments to the sshd daemon. It's completely redundant and innecessary, but it was the way different distros dealed with the shortcomings of SysV (OpenRC, the Gentoo init systems, works on top of SysV). And what files gets overwritten when installing a new version of sshd? All of them :D Of course they are overwritten with ._cfg000* backups, but anyway is ridiculous. As you say, the only config sshd would need to look for should be in /etc/ssh. With systemd, there is no need for a /etc/conf.d (or /etc/sysconfig) dir. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Cups and Ricoh Aficio 270
I'm struggling to get anything printed properly - is there a proper driver for this printer in CUPS. The driver I've chosen seems to distort everything (like a page of A4 text comes out as a black spot 3px high and 2 wide! ) I've selected AppSocket/HP JetDirect and then since no Ricoh driver showed up I selected Make:Generic and Driver:Generic PCL Laser Printer (en). The reason I've chosen AppSocket/HP JetDirect is because nmap returned this protocol when I scanned the printer. Choosing ipp, or http, lpd was not successful either. However, this AppSocket/HP JetDirect protocol with the Generic driver gives the broken printing I've described above. Selecting the Generic PostScript Printer (en) it prints pages and pages with ascii or screwed up characters when I try a test page. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
Hi Everyone, I hope someone will be able to lead me by the nose here. For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my new desktop. I kept running into issues and due to time constraints when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them. Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I hope someone will be able to lead me by the nose here. For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my new desktop. I kept running into issues and due to time constraints when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them. Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? Try dropping framebuffer console drivers? Also, what exact model of Radeon? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I hope someone will be able to lead me by the nose here. For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my new desktop. I kept running into issues and due to time constraints when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them. Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards, Colleen Hi Colleen, If you got past booting the kernel and into the init part of the boot (where you see the green OKs) then it sounds like some problem with either the X system or possibly the font set. I doubt the later as that wouldn't be very likely to make the screen half black, etc. What happens after the problem occurs but maybe you jump to a new console? (Alt-Ctrl-F2 for instance) do you get a login prompt or is that messed up also? You might also try modifying your kernel line in grub (I assume you're using grub) by appending gentoo=nox. That should stop X from starting, if it is, and might give you a little more info. If you do get a login prompt, then login and try rc-update show and post the results back. HTH, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? Try dropping framebuffer console drivers? I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear when the computer is booting! :-) Also, what exact model of Radeon? The specs that came with the computer say its and AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB DDR3 Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? Try dropping framebuffer console drivers? I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear when the computer is booting! :-) Also, what exact model of Radeon? The specs that came with the computer say its and AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB DDR3 If you can get the exact line from lspci or dmesg to know what the system sees it as, that'd be ideal for checking on compatibility issues. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote: SNIP Try dropping framebuffer console drivers? I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear when the computer is booting! :-) If it works when you boot from the install CD then there has to be a way to get it working with your setup. Boot again from the install CD and look around very, very carefully at how things are set up there and look for differences. I've never bothered getting that working myself but I agree it would be fun. :-) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Monday 10 Oct 2011 21:06:34 CJoeB wrote: Hi Everyone, I hope someone will be able to lead me by the nose here. For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my new desktop. I kept running into issues and due to time constraints when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them. Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. The computer is a Dell XPS 8300 It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an issue until I tried to install X. Does anyone have any ideas? As others have already suggested most likely the problem is something to do with the way you have set up KMS for radeon and the way you have configured the firmware. Read this page (with special attention of the framebuffer part) and then post back if you are having problems: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml At the same time you will most likely sort out your Xorg problem (which you haven't come across yet). ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to boot into my new system. I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. I would enable kms; http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernel_Modesetting_.28KMS.29 http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-831521-start-0.html HTH David
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
Hi, Colleen I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear when the computer is booting! :-) Make sure this is configured in your kernel. The config option ought to be called CONFIG_BOOTUP_TUX, but it isn't - it's called Bootup Logo and is located at Device Drivers/Graphics Support/Bootup Logo. I think you get one penguin for each core your processor has. Regards, Colleen -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
On 10/10/11 17:05, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Colleen I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear when the computer is booting! :-) Make sure this is configured in your kernel. The config option ought to be called CONFIG_BOOTUP_TUX, but it isn't - it's called Bootup Logo and is located at Device Drivers/Graphics Support/Bootup Logo. I think you get one penguin for each core your processor has. Well, still no penguins, but I did get it to boot to the command prompt. Still, it's back to the drawing board 'cause now I have an network issue and I thought I had copied the working /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf file to the /etc/resolv.conf file in the chroot'd environment. I'll keep plugging away. Thanks for the suggestions. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 09:14:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: That said... I am not aware that to be a Gentoo user, one has to be celibate... :-P It's not so much a requirement as a potential consequence :) -- Neil Bothwick Last words of a Windows user: = Why does that work now? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] automount USB
Hi I am looking fow a way, how to automount USB disks (or CD) by normal user. I find many ways (udev, hal, policykit, udisks, autofs), but I am just ordinary user, so I don´t know which one is deprecated (hal?), which one is easy to use, and so one. Can you pass me some not-deprecated web page with manual, hoto realize this? I would like to use something, which automatically mount PEN drives (ext3,ntfs,fat,...) or CD, and which allow me to unmount it with simple command without superuser permission. (I have root acess, but It's annoying to use it every time) The best would be to mount it into /media/LABEL. Thanx a lot.
[gentoo-user] Re: transferring contents of /etc/conf.d to the config files
On 10/10/2011 10:13 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 20:56]: On 10/10/2011 09:45 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de [11-10-10 19:52]: On 10/10/2011 08:33 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I have read several docs to figure out this...all docs do changes in /etc/conf.d but I found no hint how to transfer that settings to the real configuration files of the according programs. These *are* real configuration files and you don't need to transfer anything. The reason I thought, that those settings in /etc/conf.d is due to a warning of the rkhunter tool: [...] Now I see, that it seems to check simply the wrong file. It's checking the correct file. Simply edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to your liking. /etc/conf.d/ is not for those kind of settings; it's read-in by Gentoo's init system and other infrastructure. Now I am a little more confused... What is the purpose of this file? : /etc/conf.d/sshd It's used by Gentoo's init system, not by ssh. if /etc/ssh/sshd_config is for configuration of sshd's options...for what purpose is /etc/conf.d/sshd then ? And what files gets overwritten when installing a new version of sshd? All files are overwritten. In case of differences, emerge will tell you about it at the end of the emerge (even if you emerged multiple packages, the notification will only appear at the end of all of them.) Configuration protection is a basic feature of portage. When emerge tells you that the newly installed configuration files differ from the existing ones, it means that you need to run 'dispatch-conf' (or another equivalent tool) that will show you what those differences are and will allow you to merge them. Until you do that, the new config files will keep their temporary names (._cfg prefix).
Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB
2011/10/10 Michal Halenka michal.hale...@gmail.com: Hi I am looking fow a way, how to automount USB disks (or CD) by normal user. I find many ways (udev, hal, policykit, udisks, autofs), but I am just ordinary user, so I don´t know which one is deprecated (hal?), which one is easy to use, and so one. Can you pass me some not-deprecated web page with manual, hoto realize this? I would like to use something, which automatically mount PEN drives (ext3,ntfs,fat,...) or CD, and which allow me to unmount it with simple command without superuser permission. (I have root acess, but It's annoying to use it every time) The best would be to mount it into /media/LABEL. Thanx a lot. This should get you started; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965.html HTH David
Re: [gentoo-user] automount USB
Michal Halenka wrote: Hi I am looking fow a way, how to automount USB disks (or CD) by normal user. I find many ways (udev, hal, policykit, udisks, autofs), but I am just ordinary user, so I don´t know which one is deprecated (hal?), which one is easy to use, and so one. Can you pass me some not-deprecated web page with manual, hoto realize this? I would like to use something, which automatically mount PEN drives (ext3,ntfs,fat,...) or CD, and which allow me to unmount it with simple command without superuser permission. (I have root acess, but It's annoying to use it every time) The best would be to mount it into /media/LABEL. Thanx a lot. Well hal is gone. Please let it rest in peace. lol The answer may have a lot to do with what GUI you use. Do you use KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox or something else? Once that is known, then help will come along. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Saturday 08 October 2011 20:12:44 Mark Knecht wrote: I lost 45 pounds (approximately 25% of my pre-diet weight) this year on Atkins. I know a lot of folks have trouble with Atkins but it worked great for me. As I understand it, it's based on sound biochemistry - not like the popular low-fat fad. That's why it works. Have you ever wondered why the blooming of obesity has coincided with the popularity of the low-fat diet? -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
On Saturday 08 October 2011 19:43:53 Michael Orlitzky wrote: I'm going to start a bug-filing campaign against packages like this some day. The only description we ever get for use flag foo is 'enable support for foo', which doesn't tell you anything at all about how it affects a given package. I did file a bug a year or two ago about the almost uselessness of USE flag descriptions. It caused a flurry of activity in quite a few packages, but conspicuous silence in the rest. Needless to say, the activity soon died away and the status quo resumed. Programmers are not writers of English, by and large. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
Have you ever wondered why the blooming of obesity has coincided with the popularity of the low-fat diet? Correlation implies causation? Perhaps the blooming of obesity caused people to start looking for new diets to address the issue. IMO diet is the most important contributor to weight, but exercise is a more significant contributor to mental emotional health (which are the same thing).
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 00:19:08 Adam Carter wrote: Have you ever wondered why the blooming of obesity has coincided with the popularity of the low-fat diet? Correlation implies causation? No, of course not, but it certainly makes me pretty suspicious. Perhaps the blooming of obesity caused people to start looking for new diets to address the issue. Could be, but I'd prefer to believe it was, and is, indoctrination by Those Who Know. There's a whole industry devoted to perpetuating the myth of the low-fat diet. You can get volumes of evidence from Atkins's books. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups and Ricoh Aficio 270
On Tue 11 Oct 2011 01:13:41 AM IST, Mick wrote: I'm struggling to get anything printed properly - is there a proper driver for this printer in CUPS. The driver I've chosen seems to distort everything (like a page of A4 text comes out as a black spot 3px high and 2 wide! ) I've selected AppSocket/HP JetDirect and then since no Ricoh driver showed up I selected Make:Generic and Driver:Generic PCL Laser Printer (en). The reason I've chosen AppSocket/HP JetDirect is because nmap returned this protocol when I scanned the printer. Choosing ipp, or http, lpd was not successful either. However, this AppSocket/HP JetDirect protocol with the Generic driver gives the broken printing I've described above. Selecting the Generic PostScript Printer (en) it prints pages and pages with ascii or screwed up characters when I try a test page. Any suggestions? I don't know about this printer, have you checked the printer compatibility list? (openprinting.org I guess). See how good is your printer supported. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2011 00:19:08 Adam Carter wrote: Have you ever wondered why the blooming of obesity has coincided with the popularity of the low-fat diet? Correlation implies causation? No, of course not, but it certainly makes me pretty suspicious. Correlation != causation, but it does imply it. One needs to be careful not to allow confirmation bias to carry one prematurely to an anticipated conclusion. Perhaps the blooming of obesity caused people to start looking for new diets to address the issue. Could be, but I'd prefer to believe it was, and is, indoctrination by Those Who Know. There's a whole industry devoted to perpetuating the myth of the low-fat diet. You can get volumes of evidence from Atkins's books. I don't have any unique dietary problems, so I'm probably Joe Average when it comes to metabolism, et al. I can get by happily on primarily vegetarian meals, I can get by happily on juicy, meaty, fatty meals, and I can get by happily on fast food. When I spend 90% of my non-sleep time sitting at a computer, I hover around 270lbs, regardless of the types of food I eat. When I spend more time hanging around outside, biking with my fiancee or wandering parks taking pictures, I lose weight, but then hover at a lower level When I control the quantity of food I consume, I lose weight, but hover at a lower level. I got as low as 240 lbs this summer. As far as food goes, for me, it's really not the kind of food, but how much of it I eat. First step is to eat smaller portions, so that my stomach shrinks and I feel fuller sooner. I still eat enough to get enough nutrition, it just means being hungry at the end of meals for three or four days. The second step is to switch to foods which don't easily come in bulk, and don't finish off others' plates. So, soup prepared per-bowl, or meals prepared per-plate. Then, obviously, there's being physically active. That's a tougher nut to crack. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups and Ricoh Aficio 270
That printer supports postscript file format only. http://support.ricoh.com/connectivity/cgi-bin/ctlpage.cgi?soft=unixfiltercr=ravers=3000 On Mon Oct 10 18:32:13 2011, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Tue 11 Oct 2011 01:13:41 AM IST, Mick wrote: I'm struggling to get anything printed properly - is there a proper driver for this printer in CUPS. The driver I've chosen seems to distort everything (like a page of A4 text comes out as a black spot 3px high and 2 wide! ) I've selected AppSocket/HP JetDirect and then since no Ricoh driver showed up I selected Make:Generic and Driver:Generic PCL Laser Printer (en). The reason I've chosen AppSocket/HP JetDirect is because nmap returned this protocol when I scanned the printer. Choosing ipp, or http, lpd was not successful either. However, this AppSocket/HP JetDirect protocol with the Generic driver gives the broken printing I've described above. Selecting the Generic PostScript Printer (en) it prints pages and pages with ascii or screwed up characters when I try a test page. Any suggestions? I don't know about this printer, have you checked the printer compatibility list? (openprinting.org I guess). See how good is your printer supported. -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com Internet Technology Specialist (702) 508-8455
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue
CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com writes: I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better). I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the same result. That sounds as though the kernel framebuffer is setting the graphics card to a mode (resolution, refresh rate etc) that the monitor does not support.
