Re: [gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-27 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 01/27/2012 10:48 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW

This isn't Java.

Yes, sorry, this is not Java, it's Oracle DB, but I'll have to setup
an Oracle database too.
Is it really that complicated for that particular software?

Dude,
It's Oracle.
Yes, everything they have works that complicatedly.


Well,...


If you think installing it is complex, wait till you actually try to
*use* it.


You scared me...
At least, I've been warned ;-)

I also had a look at that Oracle DB install on CentOS
(http://goo.gl/v5lFF), not better...

Thank you all.

--
RMA.



[gentoo-user] which packages requires a given package with a specific use flag

2012-01-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
I,

again, I have a question on reverse dependency search:

How can I find out which (installed) package requires a given package
(sci-libs/hdf5 in my case) with a specific use flag (cxx in my case)?

I can't see how specifiy the use flag when using qdepends.

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.



Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:38:15 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

 To turn this on its head ... rather than hiding, is there a way to
 create identical browsers that pollute their (google et al.) databases?

Considering the huge number a people using the likes of Google (and no
one has stated that they actually use something like this), such
pollution wouldn't even amount to one speck of dust.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

What is a free gift ? Aren't all gifts free?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clicking on URLs in kmail-1.13.7 launches libreoffice

2012-01-27 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 20:06:41 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 14:51:45 schrieb Michael Mol:
  On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de
 
 wrote:
   Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 09:18:03 schrieb Mick:
   Over the last couple of weeks I noticed that when I click on a URL in
   an
   email I get libreoffice launching a few seconds after Konqueror has
   opened up the URL.
   
   I think this started happening after the recent update of KDE to 4.7.4
   and after the initial what the ...  it is now becoming annoying.
   
   Have you noticed anything similar?
   
   Any ideas how I could fix this?
   
   No idea, but this happens here also. Not annoying yet, but also not
   restricted to kmail afaict. I click somewhere and loffice starts.
  
  I remember having this happen under StarOffice way back on Win95.
  Sounds like you've got to re-select your preferred application
  handlers. I don't know the process for this in KDE.
 
 Already checked those. Nothing suspicious in there. Sometimes loffice even
 starts when I click on my (empty) desktop, in the url bar of firefox or in
 some empty area of an application, where no preferred application would be
 started. Happens about once a week and I click a lot, so I don't care too
 much :)

I'm not running KDE on the desktop, so as far as I have noticed here it only 
happens when I click on a URL in an email in Kmail.  This happens every time 
without failure.  Other apps seem to operate normally.

I assume it is a KDE problem.

However, in the KDE File Associations, libreoffice is not showing anywhere in 
html or text as a relevant application to open such files with.  So, I'm 
assuming some other setting is pulling it in.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] AMD Bulldozer cflags ?

2012-01-27 Thread Amar Cosic
Hello list

anyone running above mentioned CPU? I have couple KVM based virtual servers
that run Bulldozer in host machines and I would like to run Gentoo on it.

Couple months ago I tried this
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#AMD_FX-8xxx.2F6xxx.2F4xxx_.28Bulldozer.29
and
compiling failed ( I cant remember what it was actual error..) so I am
guessing I need something else.


ty.

-- 
Amar Ćosić
amar.co...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Lightweight commandline flatfile database

2012-01-27 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:23:32AM -0500, Penguin Lover Walter Dnes squawked:
   Rather than keep music on my hard drive, I'm going the cloud route
 by keeping a list of my favourite Youtube clips.  Ideally, I'd like
 something that I can activate from the command line, and even launch
 Firefox.  sqlite is overkill in terms of features/size.  Is there
 something smaller.  It does *NOT* have to be SQL.  I'd prefer a text
 mode program.  I'd prefer not to keep a list in a spreadsheet.
 

Then why not just a flat text file, one youtube link per line, each
line comma separated with 

 URL,artist,title

search with grep, once narrowed down to one item you can just
 firefox `grep terms textfile | cut -d ',' -f 1`
or even make that a bash function if you'd like? 

adding to the list is as simple as 
  echo url,artist,title  textfile
a mixture of grep, cut, sort can even be used to make a full listing
of all entries. 

Or do you have a more specific set of features that you'd like? (like,
for exampe, an actual user interface?)

Cheers, 

W
-- 
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton




Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Mick
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 00:48:14 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Thursday 26 January 2012 21:29:05 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  I've been contacted, and interviewed by phone, by Google TWICE. Both
  times the person said straight up they read gentoo-users shrug
 
 I was contacted too, but I think they were swayed by my sig. Anyway, no
 further contact once I told them a bit about myself.

Don't take it personally.  On counter-interviewing the interviewer I came to 
the conclusion that she was looking for young IT literate candidates with 
networking and security knowledge, who would be keen to work for Google at a 
(relatively) low salary.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Corrupted font in gtk apps.

2012-01-27 Thread Robert David
Hi,

after recent update I encountered a problem with fonts. They looks ugly
and somehow corrupted. I see that in gtk apps I use, but maybe it is
also in other apps. 

I encountered it on two computers, both amd64. Before a week it was
fine.

I use gentoo stable.

I have fixed it partly by using Terminus font in all places where I
can. But this is only workaround. All other fonts (bitstream 75bpp,
dejavu) are corrupted.

I also logged a bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400909

I hope I'm not the only one who has this behavior.

Regards,
Robert



Re: [gentoo-user] which packages requires a given package with a specific use flag

2012-01-27 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 09:37:44AM +0100, Penguin Lover Helmut Jarausch 
squawked:
 How can I find out which (installed) package requires a given package
 (sci-libs/hdf5 in my case) with a specific use flag (cxx in my case)?
 
 I can't see how specifiy the use flag when using qdepends.
 

equery depends sci-libs/hdf5 

will show dependency including any specified use flag

equery depends -D sci-libs/hdf5

will also show indirect dependencies, but you probably don't need
that, I guess. 

Cheers, 

W
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 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton




Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:21:16 +, Mick wrote:

 Don't take it personally.  On counter-interviewing the interviewer I
 came to the conclusion that she was looking for young IT literate
 candidates with networking and security knowledge, who would be keen to
 work for Google at a (relatively) low salary.

I don't think anyone could think Alan or I was young. From Alan's posts
on here, I would employ him in anything but a department of one!

My contact was interested in someone with experience in high performance
clusters. Can anyone point to a post of mine, here or anywhere else, that
implies that my knowledge of clustering extends beyond being able to
spell it?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Nothing is illegal if one hundred businessmen decide to do it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Bulldozer cflags ?

2012-01-27 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
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On 27.01.2012 13:08, Amar Cosic wrote:
 Hello list
 
 anyone running above mentioned CPU? I have couple KVM based virtual
 servers that run Bulldozer in host machines and I would like to run
 Gentoo on it.
 
 Couple months ago I tried this 
 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#AMD_FX-8xxx.2F6xxx.2F4xxx_.28Bulldozer.29

 
and
 compiling failed ( I cant remember what it was actual error..) so I
 am guessing I need something else.
 
 
 ty.
 

Afaik you just have to use -march=native and it uses all flags
supported by your gcc-version and cpu, that are safe and default.

You can simply add the CFLAGS for e.g. graphite to that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Mick
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 12:31:50 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:21:16 +, Mick wrote:
  Don't take it personally.  On counter-interviewing the interviewer I
  came to the conclusion that she was looking for young IT literate
  candidates with networking and security knowledge, who would be keen to
  work for Google at a (relatively) low salary.
 
 I don't think anyone could think Alan or I was young. From Alan's posts
 on here, I would employ him in anything but a department of one!
 
 My contact was interested in someone with experience in high performance
 clusters. Can anyone point to a post of mine, here or anywhere else, that
 implies that my knowledge of clustering extends beyond being able to
 spell it?

You're attributing intelligence and thoroughness in researching for suitable 
candidates, which I have not as yet found in recruitment agents, or even many 
high level head hunters.  They just cast a wide net and see what sticks to it.  
Ask them an off script question and they are lost at sea.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:59:34 +, Mick wrote:

  My contact was interested in someone with experience in high
  performance clusters. Can anyone point to a post of mine, here or
  anywhere else, that implies that my knowledge of clustering extends
  beyond being able to spell it?  
 
 You're attributing intelligence and thoroughness in researching for
 suitable candidates, which I have not as yet found in recruitment
 agents, or even many high level head hunters.

Oh yes, I used to work with recruitment agents and they did send me some
dross... but only once! However, this was a Google employee.

The irony of this is that a thread about how much Google want to know
about us has descended into a demonstration of how little they know, even
from publicly available information.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays
of W. Shakespeare but all they got was the collected works of Francis
Bacon


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Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:31:50 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:21:16 +, Mick wrote:
 
  Don't take it personally.  On counter-interviewing the interviewer I
  came to the conclusion that she was looking for young IT literate
  candidates with networking and security knowledge, who would be
  keen to work for Google at a (relatively) low salary.
 
 I don't think anyone could think Alan or I was young. From Alan's
 posts on here, I would employ him in anything but a department of one!

I take Groucho Marx's lead in this and refuse to take a position with
any company that is prepared to have me on the premises!

Yup, that is a paradox.


 
 My contact was interested in someone with experience in high
 performance clusters. Can anyone point to a post of mine, here or
 anywhere else, that implies that my knowledge of clustering extends
 beyond being able to spell it?
 
 



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Video Out on laptop

2012-01-27 Thread dhkuhl
I have an HP Pavilion Entertainment Laptop which has a video out port.  I want 
to hook up a projector or monitor to it, but when I do there isn't a signal.  
There is a function key that is suppose to turn it on and off, but it doesn't 
seem to work.  Is this a kernel setting?It's an AMD Athlon 64 Neo X2 Dual Core 
Processor L335 running a current updated Gentoo system with kernel 
3.1.6.Thanks,dhk


Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptop

2012-01-27 Thread Robert David
Hi,

what does xrandr say??
Connect the external monitor and type xrandr on console.

Than something like: xrandr --output LVDS1 --off --output VGA1 --auto


Robert.

V Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:47:03 + (GMT)
dhk...@optonline.net napsáno:

 I have an HP Pavilion Entertainment Laptop which has a video out
 port.  I want to hook up a projector or monitor to it, but when I do
 there isn't a signal.  There is a function key that is suppose to
 turn it on and off, but it doesn't seem to work.  Is this a kernel
 setting?It's an AMD Athlon 64 Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335 running
 a current updated Gentoo system with kernel 3.1.6.Thanks,dhk




Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptop

2012-01-27 Thread dhkuhl
- Original Message -From: Robert David Date: Friday, January 27, 2012 
9:00 amSubject: Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptopTo: 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgCc: dhk...@optonline.net Hi,  what does 
xrandr say?? Connect the external monitor and type xrandr on console.  Than 
something like: xrandr --output LVDS1 --off --output VGA1 --auto   Robert. 
 V Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:47:03 + (GMT) dhk...@optonline.net napsáno:   I 
have an HP Pavilion Entertainment Laptop which has a video out  port.  I want 
to hook up a projector or monitor to it, but  when I do  there isn't a 
signal.  There is a function key that is suppose to  turn it on and off, but 
it doesn't seem to work.  Is this a kernel  setting?It's an AMD Athlon 64 Neo 
X2 Dual Core Processor L335  running a current updated Gentoo system with 
kernel 3.1.6.Thanks,dhk  Without the monitor xrandr says:Screen 0: minimum 
320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 1366LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 
(normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 293mm x 164mm   1366x768   
60.0*+   1280x720   59.9   1152x768   59.8   1024x768   59.9   
800x600    59.9   640x480    59.4VGA-0 disconnected (normal left 
inverted right x axis y axis)HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x 
axis y axis)With the monitor xrandr says:Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 
1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 1366LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left 
inverted right x axis y axis) 293mm x 164mm   1366x768   60.0*+   
1280x720   59.9   1152x768   59.8   1024x768   59.9   
800x600    59.9   640x480    59.4VGA-0 connected (normal left inverted 
right x axis y axis)   1280x1024  60.0 +   75.0   1152x864   75.0   
1024x768   75.0 70.1 60.0   832x624    74.6   800x600    
72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2   640x480    75.0 72.8 66.7 
59.9   720x400    70.1HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x 
axis y axis)


Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptop

2012-01-27 Thread Robert David
So to enable external output you can do this:

xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --output LVDS --off

to switch back

xrandr --output VGA-0 --off --output LVDS --auto

you can assign this to some shortcuts. Or do a acpi script for the
hotkey. I have done similar for docking and undocking on my thinkpad.

Also you can use the tools for your DE, for example krandrtray for KDE
or gnome it has in Settings I think.

Robert.


V Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:13:10 + (GMT)
dhk...@optonline.net napsáno:


 - Original Message -From: Robert David Date: Friday, January
 27, 2012 9:00 amSubject: Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptopTo:
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgCc: dhk...@optonline.net Hi,  what
 does xrandr say?? Connect the external monitor and type xrandr on
 console.  Than something like: xrandr --output LVDS1 --off --output
 VGA1 --auto   Robert.  V Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:47:03 + (GMT)
 dhk...@optonline.net napsáno:   I have an HP Pavilion
 Entertainment Laptop which has a video out  port.  I want to hook
 up a projector or monitor to it, but  when I do  there isn't a
 signal.  There is a function key that is suppose to  turn it on and
 off, but it doesn't seem to work.  Is this a kernel  setting?It's
 an AMD Athlon 64 Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L335  running a current
 updated Gentoo system with kernel 3.1.6.Thanks,dhk  Without the
 monitor xrandr says:Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768,
 maximum 1366 x 1366LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted
 right x axis y axis) 293mm x 164mm   1366x768   60.0*+
 1280x720   59.9   1152x768   59.8   1024x768   59.9
 800x600    59.9   640x480    59.4VGA-0 disconnected (normal
 left inverted right x axis y axis)HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left
 inverted right x axis y axis)With the monitor xrandr says:Screen 0:
 minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 1366LVDS
 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
 293mm x 164mm   1366x768   60.0*+   1280x720   59.9
 1152x768   59.8   1024x768   59.9   800x600    59.9
 640x480    59.4VGA-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis
 y axis)   1280x1024  60.0 +   75.0   1152x864   75.0
 1024x768   75.0 70.1 60.0   832x624    74.6
 800x600    72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2   640x480
 75.0 72.8 66.7 59.9   720x400    70.1HDMI-0
 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)




Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread v_2e
  Hello!

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:16:01 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have a better search tool?  I don't like Yahoo either.  I
 do like froogle so that would be a bonus.  You know, shopping tool.
 
 Thoughts?  Suggestions?
 
  What about Yandex? It provides a search tool and a mail box with POP3
and IMAP protocols support free of charge. And by the way, they say
that the mailbox size is also indefinite (well, at least
theoretically :) ). 

  Regards,
Vladimir

- 
 v...@ukr.net



Re: [gentoo-user] AMD Bulldozer cflags ?

2012-01-27 Thread James Cloos
 AC == Amar Cosic amar.co...@gmail.com writes:

AC Couple months ago I tried this
AC 
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/AMD#AMD_FX-8xxx.2F6xxx.2F4xxx_.28Bulldozer.29

Those flags are silly.

Specifying -march=bderv1 already enables all of the rest of those -m flags.

You will need to use gcc-4.6 or later to have -march=bderv1, otherwise
try -march=native and/or -march=amdfam10.

Iff you enable the graphite USE flag, you can add:

-floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block

to enable the graphite optimizations.

If you do install gcc-4.6.2, try these to confirm what native offers:

  :; echo | gcc -dM -E - -march=bdver1 | sort gcc-info-bdver1
  :; echo | gcc -dM -E - -march=native | sort gcc-info-native

A diff(1) of those two files should be empty.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6



Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote:
 James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com writes:

 I wouldn't find it at all surprising if gentoo systems came out pretty
 unique; no standard set of fonts, for example.

 So maybe if you change your fonts regularly it might not be able to
 track you - thinking that you are actually multiple different people.

Honestly, I think anyone who wants to go to that extent is living
their own personal fantasy. But, if you want to do something like
that, modify your browser to add random salts to your font list,
plugin list and User-Agent string, and access the Internet using a Tor
proxy. Be sure to disable any extensions, plugins or builtins that
allow the browser to access your wifi or gps data. Xulrunner, for
example, has wifi awareness specifically for geo-targeting purposes.

Google's interest is in tightly-defined demographics to aid in
advertising and low-level details like is he more likely to click on
an acaiberry ad or an ad selling SATA port multipliers with
statistical monitoring? The whole thing about having a 'real name' is
about forcing people to be up-front with their identities when
interacting with other people online, which they think makes people
more civil. (Which I don't believe it does, but I only note that so
people don't mistake me for a flat-out Google apologist.)

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Video Out on laptop

2012-01-27 Thread dhkuhl







Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Lightweight commandline flatfile database

2012-01-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 01/27/2012 06:23:32 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
   Rather than keep music on my hard drive, I'm going the cloud 
 route
 by keeping a list of my favourite Youtube clips.  Ideally, I'd like
 something that I can activate from the command line, and even launch
 Firefox.  sqlite is overkill in terms of features/size.  Is there
 something smaller.  It does *NOT* have to be SQL.  I'd prefer a text
 mode program.  I'd prefer not to keep a list in a spreadsheet.
 
 -- 
You might check if dev-python/buzhug is suffucient for your needs.

Helmut.



Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:48 AM,  v...@ukr.net wrote:
  Hello!

 On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:16:01 -0600
 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have a better search tool?  I don't like Yahoo either.  I
 do like froogle so that would be a bonus.  You know, shopping tool.

 Thoughts?  Suggestions?

  What about Yandex? It provides a search tool and a mail box with POP3
 and IMAP protocols support free of charge. And by the way, they say
 that the mailbox size is also indefinite (well, at least
 theoretically :) ).

I'll add a vote of support for Yandex. It usually has good results,
though it really depends on what you are searching for. I did some
test queries asking random linux questions and the link containing the
solution was usually higher in the list on Yandex when compared to
Google. Comparing local shopping prices in the US, use Google
instead...

Based on my web server logs, the bots which check the most often are:

1. Baidu
2. MJ12
3. Gootkit auto-rooter
4. Bing
5. Yandex
6. Yobao
7. Google
8. ZmEu

3 and 8 are bots trying exploits,  2 is not a search engine, 1 and 6
are not available in English, 4 is Microsoft, and 7 is excluded for
the present conversation. So, Yandex seems a good choice. In fact, the
only remaining choice. :)

BTW, the Baidu spider hits my site more than all of the others combined...



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:19:38 +0300
 Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote:

 On 01/26/2012 03:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW
  This isn't Java.

 Yes, sorry, this is not Java, it's Oracle DB, but I'll have to setup
 an Oracle database too.

 Is it really that complicated for that particular software?


 Dude,

 It's Oracle.

 Yes, everything they have works that complicatedly.

 If you think installing it is complex, wait till you actually try to
 *use* it.

I've never had the pleasure of using Oracle database, but everyone
I've ever talked to who has used it professionally tells me how bad it
is, how bad the tools are, how it's all overly complicated just for
the sake of being complicated so you're forced to hire Oracle support
to help.



Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.01.2012 07:57, schrieb Dale:
 Dale wrote:
 Hi list,

 I ran across this news item about Google:

 http://alturl.com/s7xi5

 The long URL is below.  I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google
 since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with.  Next
 they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me surf.  I found a
 search engine that may work.  It is here:

 www.ixquick.com

 Does anyone have a better search tool?  I don't like Yahoo either.  I do
 like froogle so that would be a bonus.  You know, shopping tool.

[...]
 
 OK.  This has gotten a LOT of replies with lots of interesting info.  I
 have another question along the same lines.  What about using a VPN?  I
 been messing with tor and Firefox but if I try to watch a video or
 something that has any length to it, it gets rather iffy.  I found this:
 
 www.vpn4all.com
 
 I don't think it works with Linux but it was interesting to read about
 just for the information.  From my understanding, people can't read your
 traffic and they can't tell anything about you as far as location.  I
 know google can do this because when I type in certain things, it all
 comes up for local stuff.  If I do the same in Firefox with tor turned
 on, it gets rather weird.  Stuff from Africa was showing up one time and
 later on it looked like German stuff.  When I checked my IP and did a
 whois, it was in other countries.
 
 What are thoughts on this sort of thing?  Anything better than tor out
 there?  Am I getting paranoid or do people really watch us and collect
 data on us?  :/
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 
 

Well, to summarize it:

It solves the following problems:
- Your ISP cannot snoop or manipulate your traffic (useful for mobile
connections which normally compress images, for example)
- Your IP no longer maps directly to you
- IP geolocation no longer works reliably

It does not solve this problem:
- Your browser+cookies still identify you

It creates this new problem:
- The VPN provider sees all your traffic and your IP (in this regard it
is worse than Tor because with Tor, the endpoint sees your traffic and
the start point your IP but neither sees both)

Regards,
Florian Philipp



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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-text/xpdf

2012-01-27 Thread Philip Webb
120127 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 # Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org (27 Jan 2012)
 # Has developed into an unmaintainable mess, and everyone who
 # knows about it is either retired or missing in action. 
 # Several minor bugs and one ugly security issues (#386271).
 # Masked for removal because of lack of maintainer.

I use Xpdf frequently  have no problem with it.
The security bug you cite says there is a newer version 3.03
which fixes at least some of the security problems.
If you limit yourself sensibly to PDFs from known reliable sites,
you won't run into the problem in Bug 386271 AFAIK.
The bug I submitted is minor  has a workaround, which I use.

Is there an alternative which doesn't require eg 'kdelibs' or similar ?
In my netbook, Xpdf is the only method I have of reading PDFs,
as I use Fluxbox  don't have KDE installed at all.

There is a fork of some kind at  https://github.com/rbrito/xpdf-poppler ,
which is given as the contact by 'eix'.

I very much hope there is at least an alternative
or otherwise some reconsideration of removing Xpdf from Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-text/xpdf

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
 120127 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 # Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org (27 Jan 2012)
 # Has developed into an unmaintainable mess, and everyone who
 # knows about it is either retired or missing in action.
 # Several minor bugs and one ugly security issues (#386271).
 # Masked for removal because of lack of maintainer.

 I use Xpdf frequently  have no problem with it.
 The security bug you cite says there is a newer version 3.03
 which fixes at least some of the security problems.
 If you limit yourself sensibly to PDFs from known reliable sites,
 you won't run into the problem in Bug 386271 AFAIK.
 The bug I submitted is minor  has a workaround, which I use.

 Is there an alternative which doesn't require eg 'kdelibs' or similar ?
 In my netbook, Xpdf is the only method I have of reading PDFs,
 as I use Fluxbox  don't have KDE installed at all.

 There is a fork of some kind at  https://github.com/rbrito/xpdf-poppler ,
 which is given as the contact by 'eix'.

 I very much hope there is at least an alternative
 or otherwise some reconsideration of removing Xpdf from Gentoo.

I use evince, myself.

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[gentoo-user] OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

2012-01-27 Thread Walter Dnes
  After the upgrade to Firefox 9, urlview no longer works.  I get a
dialog box with...


Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window,
you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restrt your system.


  The 2 uncommented lines in ~/.urlview are...

REGEXP ((https?|ftp|gopher)[.:][^ \t]*|www[0-9]?\.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ .,;\t\):]
COMMAND /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window %s

  What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Lightweight commandline flatfile database

2012-01-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 04:56:34PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote

 You might check if dev-python/buzhug is suffucient for your needs.

  Thanks.  I installed it and am doing RTFM now.

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