Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
On Tuesday 21 Feb 2012 18:03:35 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it all manually. Any ideas? Cheers, Hilco Ok theres probably a better way to do this, but heres goes. create a bash script with what you want to run ie (emerge --sync). now start konsole with konsole with konsole -e /bin/bash --rcfile path to script. alternativly you can create a new konsole profile and add that to the command section and use that profile for this. -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and a seal. -- Mark Twain
[gentoo-user] Re: Recent networking problems
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Peter Weilbacher newsspam at weilbacher.org wrote: Hi all, since about two weeks I have been fighting with networking problems on a laptop. It all started with a big sync world update that gave me new udev-171-r5, wicd-1.7.1_pre20120127, tuxonice-sources-3.0.17, openrc-0.9.8.2, among other things (I'm mostly running stable). Symptoms are that I cannot even get wired _listed_ in wicd, and when connecting to various different wireless routers, the connection died quickly. The e1000e driver (for wired) apparently never detects when a cable is connected, and when trying it through /etc/init.d/net.eth0, dhcpcd times out when waiting for a carrier... I tried alternating kernels (tuxonice- and gentoo-sources, both older and new ones between 2.3.38-r1 and 3.2.1) and kernel configurations as well as downgrades of several suspect packages, without success. Does that ring a bell with someone? Any advice how I can track down these problems? There was a thread a while back about wicd quit working. The solution then was to edit /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf and change the backend from external to ioctl. Yes, I had seen that. Of course that doesn't help with my problem, since I cannot connect wired even when bypassing wicd. I was hoping for some hints which packages might be involved with finding a wired connection. The kernel certainly, maybe udev, openrc (when using /etc/init.d/net.eth0), but which others? And how can I reconfigure those to let me debug what's going on? Cheers, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
oh Felix had a better answer didn't notice ... ignore mine :). -- -Yohan Pereira
[gentoo-user] maybe [OT]: how to make new dictionaries work on Firefox 9?
Hi, All I have had problems installing new dictionaries in Firefox since I left the old 3.X series. Now, on FF 9.0, it is still the same. I am able to install a new dictionary, just can't use it. I even tried and installed a manual and an auto dictionary switcher, and the new dictionary does not even appear on their list of available dictionaries. Am I missing something? Thanks Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx
On 02/19/2012 07:15:46 PM, Mick wrote: Hi All, I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by- pass restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic. If you only want to get through your firewall by using the open port 80, I'd use ssh's port forwarding capablities. You might have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding You can use 'localhost' as man in the middle. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx
On 22 February 2012 12:07, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 02/19/2012 07:15:46 PM, Mick wrote: Hi All, I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by- pass restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic. If you only want to get through your firewall by using the open port 80, I'd use ssh's port forwarding capablities. You might have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding You can use 'localhost' as man in the middle. Thanks Helmut. This will only work if I set sshd at my home server to listen for connections on port 443 or 80 (all other ports are blocked by the gateway behind which I happen to be) and the gateway does not perform deep packet inspection. Hence, tunneling ssh via https is the only sure-fire way of getting through restrictive firewalls and corporate internet gateways. -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:11:31 -0800 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/21/2012 02:03 PM, Mick wrote: Hi All, The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile: www-client/firefox-10.0.1/work/mozilla-release I noticed that firefox-bin (I got sick of compiling the damned thing every two weeks) just updated this morning to 10.0.2, so I'd be tempted to wait a few days until the compile-it-yourself version catches up. I doubt there will be one until at least 10.0.3. Firefox 10.0.2 was released because of a security bug in media-libs/libpng-1.5.9, and 1.5.9 has been stable a couple of days already.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
Likewise for debugging the kdepim mess when it was already working well in the old kde. What ARE they thinking? Reminds me of our US Congress, all advertising and no product. kdepim devs are just making a simple classic mistake that's been made over and over and over again. Developers do not learn from history, every time this mistake is made the team doing it thinks *they* will be different. What is that classic mistake? Is it the shark jumping thing? - Grant This is their second big project - the most dangerous one a dev will ever work on. Frederick P. Brooks has it all covered since the 70s.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: maybe [OT]: how to make new dictionaries work on Firefox 9?
Em , Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de escreveu: On 22/02/12 13:55, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All I have had problems installing new dictionaries in Firefox since I left the old 3.X series. Now, on FF 9.0, it is still the same. I am able to install a new dictionary, just can't use it. I even tried and installed a manual and an auto dictionary switcher, and the new dictionary does not even appear on their list of available dictionaries. Am I missing something? For some weird reason, Firefox as packaged by Gentoo doesn't support dictionaries. It only supports hunspell (or aspell, can't remember) which you need to install first along with dictionaries for it. After you do that, you will get a gazillion of English dictionaries that you can't disable. You'll need to live with it, since no one cares about this bug. Thank you. I'll try the aspel or hunspell dictionaries. Best regards Francisco
[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts
Hello, I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the option for online accounts however, I would like to add my Google account, but I just can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo Forums on how to fix the error I am getting, but I have not found any useful or any fix yet. I want to know if any of you has suceffuly added a Google account or isn't working at all on Gentoo? Since, I tried on Fedora and seems to be working cool. Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my account: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the Gentoo Forum suggested) Is there something missing? Thanks. -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com
[gentoo-user] Re: maybe [OT]: how to make new dictionaries work on Firefox 9?
On 22/02/12 13:55, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All I have had problems installing new dictionaries in Firefox since I left the old 3.X series. Now, on FF 9.0, it is still the same. I am able to install a new dictionary, just can't use it. I even tried and installed a manual and an auto dictionary switcher, and the new dictionary does not even appear on their list of available dictionaries. Am I missing something? For some weird reason, Firefox as packaged by Gentoo doesn't support dictionaries. It only supports hunspell (or aspell, can't remember) which you need to install first along with dictionaries for it. After you do that, you will get a gazillion of English dictionaries that you can't disable. You'll need to live with it, since no one cares about this bug.
Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Linux Kernel 3.2.0 USB Mouse
Today I've tried to upgrade from 3.1.6 to 3.2.1. I did not change anything else only the options mentioned below Device Drivers - HID Devices (HID_SUPPORT) - Special HID drivers - Logitech devices (HID_LOGITECH) - Logitech Unifying receivers full support After that my mouse stopped working in X (yes, evdev emerged after the kernel upgrade). I had the following errors in my log Feb 22 17:17:55 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0003: claimed by neither input, hiddev nor hidraw Feb 22 17:17:55 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0003: logi_dj_probe:hid_hw_start returned error Feb 22 17:26:20 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0007: claimed by neither input, hiddev nor hidraw Feb 22 17:26:20 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0007: logi_dj_probe:hid_hw_start returned error Do you have any idea? Thanks Laszlo On 2012. jan. 9., hétfő, 02.36.44 CET, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 7 January 2012 18:53, Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to upgrade the kernel on my desktop from 3.1.6 to 3.2.0(-r1). Unfortunately, my Logitech USB trackball does not work in 3.2.0. It is listed in the lsusb output so it is being recognized but neither GPM nor X responds to it. I have tried to make sure that the .config files are as identical as possible. The differences that I see do not seem relevant to my problem. Any ideas? All right, I found the problem. I needed to add support for Logitech Unifying receivers full support: Device Drivers - HID Devices (HID_SUPPORT) - Special HID drivers - Logitech devices (HID_LOGITECH) - Logitech Unifying receivers full support Thanks all! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME kriptográfiai aláírás
Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Linux Kernel 3.2.0 USB Mouse
2012/2/22 Space Cake spaceca...@gmail.com: Today I've tried to upgrade from 3.1.6 to 3.2.1. I did not change anything else only the options mentioned below Device Drivers - HID Devices (HID_SUPPORT) - Special HID drivers - Logitech devices (HID_LOGITECH) - Logitech Unifying receivers full support After that my mouse stopped working in X (yes, evdev emerged after the kernel upgrade). I had the following errors in my log Feb 22 17:17:55 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0003: claimed by neither input, hiddev nor hidraw Feb 22 17:17:55 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0003: logi_dj_probe:hid_hw_start returned error Feb 22 17:26:20 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0007: claimed by neither input, hiddev nor hidraw Feb 22 17:26:20 brutal kernel: logitech-djreceiver 0003:046D:C52B.0007: logi_dj_probe:hid_hw_start returned error Do you have any idea? Try disabling HID_LOGITECH, and rely on their base support for the HID input device spec. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the option for online accounts however, I would like to add my Google account, but I just can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo Forums on how to fix the error I am getting, but I have not found any useful or any fix yet. I want to know if any of you has suceffuly added a Google account or isn't working at all on Gentoo? Since, I tried on Fedora and seems to be working cool. I have my Google Account working with GNOME 3, but I set it months ago. I don't remember any problem doing it, and now it works (at least mail wih Evolution; with Empathy tells me that I have a network error). Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my account: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the Gentoo Forum suggested) Is there something missing? We have too little information to help you. What versions of gnome, gnome-shell, gnome-online-accounts, empathy, evolution do you have? What use flags? When was your last sync? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 12:00 -0600, Carlos Sura wrote: Hello, I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the option for online accounts however, I would like to add my Google account, but I just can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo Forums on how to fix the error I am getting, but I have not found any useful or any fix yet. I want to know if any of you has suceffuly added a Google account or isn't working at all on Gentoo? Since, I tried on Fedora and seems to be working cool. Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my account: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the Gentoo Forum suggested) Is there something missing? Thanks. -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com I have it working properly, but since I set up 2-step verification (and the Authenticator app on Android) I had to make some individual passwords for some of the applications... basically here's a list of the passwords I had to set up: Gentoo laptop Empathy Gentoo laptop Evolution mail Gentoo laptop Evolution Gentoo laptop Evolution calendar For Google Chat and Gmail,calendar etc. I don't know if this helps, but I figured it might be useful for someone eventually. Alecks
[gentoo-user] Compile failure: kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0
I get the following error when building kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0. At first glance, it looks like a type traits assertion is failing. Is this new or does there already exist patch? (note: no results on bugs.gentoo) It compiled fine on my c2d laptop, though. Scanning dependencies of target testsubscriptiondialog [ 22%] Building CXX object resources/imap/tests/CMakeFiles/testsubscriptiondialog.dir/testsubscriptiondialog_automoc.o [ 22%] Building CXX object resources/imap/tests/CMakeFiles/testsubscriptiondialog.dir/testsubscriptiondialog.o [ 22%] Building CXX object resources/imap/tests/CMakeFiles/testsubscriptiondialog.dir/__/imapaccount.o [ 22%] Building CXX object resources/imap/tests/CMakeFiles/testsubscriptiondialog.dir/__/subscriptiondialog.o Linking CXX executable testsubscriptiondialog In file included from /usr/include/KDE/../klocale.h:25:0, from /usr/include/KDE/KLocale:1, from /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0/work/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0/resources/imap/sessionpool.cpp:28: /usr/include/klocalizedstring.h: In function ‘QString i18n(const char*, const A1, const A2) [with A1 = char [1], A2 = QString]’: /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0/work/kdepim-runtime-4.8.0/resources/imap/sessionpool.cpp:366:61: instantiated from here /usr/include/klocalizedstring.h:658:3: error: ‘String_literal_as_second_argument_to_i18n___Perhaps_you_need_i18nc_or_i18np’ is not a member of ‘I18nTypeCheckchar [1], 1’ make[2]: *** [resources/imap/CMakeFiles/imapresource.dir/sessionpool.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [resources/imap/CMakeFiles/imapresource.dir/all] Error 2 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs Linking CXX shared module ../../../lib/akonadi_notes_resource.so Linking CXX executable akonadi_davgroupware_resource [ 22%] Built target akonadi_notes_resource [ 22%] Built target testsubscriptiondialog [ 22%] Built target akonadi_davgroupware_resource make: *** [all] Error 2
[gentoo-user] downgrading gcc, stage 2
Hi,
while trying to get a clean system after downgrading gcc to
gcc-4.4.5. I encountered a field of black magick...more black
than magic at all:
To find broken libs I did these two commands:
sudo find /usr/lib/. /lib/. /usr/bin/. -type f -name 'lib*[^a]' -exec ldd
{} \; ! /tmp/librebuild.txt 21
cat /tmp/librebuild.txt | grep GLIB
and got a list like this one:
/usr/lib/./firefox/libxpcom.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./firefox/components/libdbusservice.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./firefox/components/libbrowsercomps.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./firefox/components/libmozgnome.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./libwpd-stream-0.9.so.9.0.4:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./libwpd-stream-0.9.so.9.0.4)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-devel-2.0/sdk/lib/libxpcom.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-devel-2.0/sdk/lib/libxul.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./xulrunner-devel-2.0/sdk/lib/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/libpbd.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/libpbd.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/libgtkmm2ext.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/libgtkmm2ext.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_powermate.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_powermate.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_genericmidi.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_genericmidi.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_tranzport.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_tranzport.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_mackie.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/surfaces/libardour_mackie.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/libardour.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/libardour.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/libmidi++.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/libmidi++.so)
/usr/lib/./ardour2/libardour_cp.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./ardour2/libardour_cp.so)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-2.0/libxpcom.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-2.0/components/libdbusservice.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-2.0/components/libmozgnome.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by //usr/lib64/xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./xulrunner-2.0/libxul.so)
/usr/lib/./libwpd-0.9.so.9.0.4:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./libwpd-0.9.so.9.0.4)
/usr/lib/./libdigikamdatabase.so.2.0.0:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib/./libdigikamdatabase.so.2.0.0)
/usr/lib/./libwpg-0.2.so.2.0.1:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by /usr/lib64/libwpd-0.9.so.9)
/usr/lib/./libwpg-0.2.so.2.0.1:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14'
not found (required by
Re: [gentoo-user] downgrading gcc, stage 2
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:47:24 +0100
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
while trying to get a clean system after downgrading gcc to
gcc-4.4.5. I encountered a field of black magick...more black
than magic at all:
To find broken libs I did these two commands:
sudo find /usr/lib/. /lib/. /usr/bin/. -type f -name 'lib*[^a]'
-exec ldd {} \; ! /tmp/librebuild.txt 21 cat /tmp/librebuild.txt |
grep
GLIB
Why don't you just use revdep-rebuild?
That tool automates precisely what you are trying to do manually.
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:26:01 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise for debugging the kdepim mess when it was already working well in the old kde. What ARE they thinking? Reminds me of our US Congress, all advertising and no product. kdepim devs are just making a simple classic mistake that's been made over and over and over again. Developers do not learn from history, every time this mistake is made the team doing it thinks *they* will be different. What is that classic mistake? Is it the shark jumping thing? No, the mistake is the mistakes that are always made on the second big project. You'd have to read The Mythical ManMonth to truly do it justice (it's a really good book for developers btw), but in a nutshell it goes like this: For your first big project, you will proceed very slowly and carefully and not take on too much, as you know you know nothing. You will probably make a project that does one thing and does a decent job of it. Enter the second project. Buoyed by the success of the first, most devs will try and build something that is waay beyond their capabilities - I mean, how hard can it be right? It will over-reach, be unbuildable and timeframe estimates will be bat-shit crazy insane. The attrition rate of second big projects is rather large. Enter the third project. Humbled by the experience of the second and still feeling quietly (and realistically) confident by the first, most devs will settle down to something useful, of wide scope and still achievable. This same rule seems to apply to almost every project a bunch of humans could tackle. So back to KDEPIM. The state of that project, the amount of bugs it has, the attitude of the devs, the state of the migrator scripts, the way Akonadi can suddenly go nuclear on you and eat your kittens, the mysterious disappearing mails from imap stores, and more, all of these things point straight to second project syndrome. The devs bit off way more than they can chew and now it's biting them back. But it can be fixed. All it needs is a smart leader with the balls to nuke all the crap code, put up with the inevitable whinging, and get the project back on track with a set of realistic goals. This might well mean chucking all of Akonadi away and admitting to themselves that they must stick with lots of flat files for a while longer. - Grant This is their second big project - the most dangerous one a dev will ever work on. Frederick P. Brooks has it all covered since the 70s. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] downgrading gcc, stage 2
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:47:24 +0100
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
while trying to get a clean system after downgrading gcc to
gcc-4.4.5. I encountered a field of black magick...more black
than magic at all:
To find broken libs I did these two commands:
sudo find /usr/lib/. /lib/. /usr/bin/. -type f -name 'lib*[^a]'
-exec ldd {} \; ! /tmp/librebuild.txt 21 cat /tmp/librebuild.txt |
grep
GLIB
Why don't you just use revdep-rebuild?
That tool automates precisely what you are trying to do manually.
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
I tend to agree with Alan. revdep-rebuild should help.
Additionally, if I were really intent on downgrading gcc, then I would
probably remove EVERY application unneeded to keep the machine running
down to and including X11, do the downgrade, rebuild the kernel and
reboot, do an emerge -e @world, make sure all that is working, and
only then start building apps. But that's just me...
Not exactly related, but I'm personally wondering what's driving the
need to downgrade. For kicks yesterday I rebuilt my laptop which
currently has audio apps as well as Blender on it with the latest
stable gcc. Everything rebuilt fine and everything I've tried seems to
run.
Good luck,
Mark
[SOLVED] (...sort of) Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: maybe [OT]: how to make new dictionaries work on Fir
Em , fra...@gmail.com escreveu: Em , Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de escreveu: On 22/02/12 13:55, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All I have had problems installing new dictionaries in Firefox since I left the old 3.X series. Now, on FF 9.0, it is still the same. I am able to install a new dictionary, just can't use it. I even tried and installed a manual and an auto dictionary switcher, and the new dictionary does not even appear on their list of available dictionaries. Am I missing something? For some weird reason, Firefox as packaged by Gentoo doesn't support dictionaries. It only supports hunspell (or aspell, can't remember) which you need to install first along with dictionaries for it. After you do that, you will get a gazillion of English dictionaries that you can't disable. You'll need to live with it, since no one cares about this bug. Thank you. I'll try the aspel or hunspell dictionaries. Best regards Francisco If there is anyone interested: - download the firefox dictionary in XPI file format; it is a ZIP file; - unpack it to a separate directory (just to make things tidy); - in that directory there will be a dictionaries folder; - as root, copy the AFF and DIC format files to /usr/share/myspell/ ; - restart Firefox. For me, it works. Best regards Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
kdepim devs are just making a simple classic mistake that's been made over and over and over again. Developers do not learn from history, every time this mistake is made the team doing it thinks *they* will be different. What is that classic mistake? Is it the shark jumping thing? No, the mistake is the mistakes that are always made on the second big project. You'd have to read The Mythical ManMonth to truly do it justice (it's a really good book for developers btw), but in a nutshell it goes like this: For your first big project, you will proceed very slowly and carefully and not take on too much, as you know you know nothing. You will probably make a project that does one thing and does a decent job of it. Enter the second project. Buoyed by the success of the first, most devs will try and build something that is waay beyond their capabilities - I mean, how hard can it be right? It will over-reach, be unbuildable and timeframe estimates will be bat-shit crazy insane. The attrition rate of second big projects is rather large. Enter the third project. Humbled by the experience of the second and still feeling quietly (and realistically) confident by the first, most devs will settle down to something useful, of wide scope and still achievable. This same rule seems to apply to almost every project a bunch of humans could tackle. Brilliant explanation. Thank you for taking the time to write this out. - Grant
[gentoo-user] Lustre filesystem support
Need to know if Gentoo Linux provides support for a Lustre filesystem, only need support for a Patchless Client, on a PPC target.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 20:14:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: You'd have to read The Mythical ManMonth to truly do it justice (it's a really good book for developers btw). That book used to be required reading in my coding days (70s and 80s). On our projects we used to say: the first 50% of the project takes the first 90% of the time, and the second 50% takes the other 90%. Then we'd go out to tender when the project was cancelled at board level. (This was in the electricity supply industry.) As Alan said, in software development nobody ever learns the lessons they should. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
