Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:36:00 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: I prefer to update portage first, just in case it co-coincides with some update to the tree pedantic old fart mode ON What does co-coincides mean? It's when two coincidences are mutually coincident. That or something involving a hot bedtime drink :) -- Neil Bothwick The law of Probability Dispersal decrees that whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:34:46 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: The only automation in my case is eix-sync followed by emerge -uND --fetchonly @system @world It would be worth adding glsa-check to that list. Run it every day from cron to get mailed about any security risks. -- Neil Bothwick Q. How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A. Only one - who gives it to six Californians, thereby reducing the problem to an earlier joke. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates
On Feb 24, 2012 4:08 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:36:00 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: I prefer to update portage first, just in case it co-coincides with some update to the tree pedantic old fart mode ON What does co-coincides mean? It's when two coincidences are mutually coincident. That or something involving a hot bedtime drink :) More likely one nightcap too many ;-) (Gosh, I love this list because all the friendly meta ribbings) Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron
On Feb 24, 2012 4:13 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:34:46 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: The only automation in my case is eix-sync followed by emerge -uND --fetchonly @system @world It would be worth adding glsa-check to that list. Run it every day from cron to get mailed about any security risks. I'm a bit scared running glsa-check automatically. I may have misunderstood, but my thought is that glsa-check can perform updates behind my back. CMIIW? Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 07:30:01 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much guaranteed with current browsers. Flash has about 95% coverage. That means virtually everyone has it installed. HTML5 on the other hand does not guarantee video playback. If you're on Firefox for example, it won't play MPEG video, but will play Theora. If you're on IE or Safari, it won't play Theora but will play MPEG. With Flash, you *know* that it will play your video. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact; an important one. Yeah, I know, sucks for Linux which has poor Flash support, but what can you do? This is a reality and you can't blame people for choosing the safe bet. The thing is that apple smartphones and tablets do not offer flash. Desktop volumes are in decline, while smartphones and tablets sales are increasing. This could be seasonal of course, but if the future moves away from the flash capable desktop, then flash will become increasingly obsolete. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] favorite smartctl test?
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 02:44:00 Grant wrote: I'm trying to figure out how far gone an old Maxtor HD of mine is. It does have S.M.A.R.T. support. Is there a favorite smartctl command for making this determination? 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' says: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED and: ATA Error Count: 116 Is a self-test in order? - Grant Run smartctl --capabilities /dev/hda to find out what tests the drive can do. If goes without saying that if you suspect the drive use ddrescue to make a back up before you start running any tests, just in case there is a problem that a new cable/ribbon won't fix. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?
On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 12:47:00 James Broadhead wrote: On 23 February 2012 12:39, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have changed substantially since, I think. Using 'hcitool inq' works fine, it's the KDE dialogs which sit there searching endlessly. Any recommended settings for /etc/bluetooth/*? Doc is a bit hard to come by. TIA -Robin Not exactly on-topic, but I recently got my bluetooth headset working without any major hassle using net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth by - Building the appropriate communications-types modules - Starting the bluetooth init script - Running bluetooth-wizard to pair and bluetooth-applet to connect/disconnect I'm using net-wireless/bluedevil-1.2.2 and I do not have any such problems. However, I'm not using the whole KDE desktop and I'm still on KDEPIM 4.4.11.1 -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:30:23 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: It would be worth adding glsa-check to that list. Run it every day from cron to get mailed about any security risks. I'm a bit scared running glsa-check automatically. I may have misunderstood, but my thought is that glsa-check can perform updates behind my back. That's an option, but one I've never used. Try glsa-check -t all. -- Neil Bothwick It's not a bug, it's tradition! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron
On Feb 24, 2012 7:06 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:30:23 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: It would be worth adding glsa-check to that list. Run it every day from cron to get mailed about any security risks. I'm a bit scared running glsa-check automatically. I may have misunderstood, but my thought is that glsa-check can perform updates behind my back. That's an option, but one I've never used. Try glsa-check -t all. Ah, thanks for the clarification! I'm going to study more on glsa-check tomorrow, and most likely add it into the cron job. Rgds,
[gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays
Hello List, Does 'Layman -L' yield a comprehensive list or does it just poll from a subset of the different Overlay from a select number of sites? Does such a list exist that references (most) all Overlay repositories and the Overlay ebuilds therein? Are there sites that are known not to trust? If 2 different repositories have different (hacked ebuild) then where do you get information as to which one you should use? Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe there is a site where these Overlays are close to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage, maybe a last stage clearing site or such? Do some sites have standards and other sites let anyone put up a development ebuild? 'layman -S' Are the listings automatically refreshed or do you (should you) issue one master command to sync (update) all of the repositories or sync per each repository? Just looking for some feedback on these non official ebuilds, in a general sense. I have had very different experiences with Overlays and was wondering if I have missed some wisdom along the way..? http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Listing_and_Adding_Overlays Best reference on the subject? James
[gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
Grant writes: I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? I believe that if there were a 'maximal' USE flag, I'd enable it in make.conf :) Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:18 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? I leave it off and add it per-package as needed. I suppose the best approach would be for each individual to look at their own copy of what this below does and decide for themselves if the majority is what the need or don;t need (and make a choice): # euses -sf minimal minimal - Install a very minimal build (disables, for example, plugins, fonts, most drivers, non-critical features) app-crypt/ekeyd:minimal - Only install the ekey-egd-linux service rather than the full ekeyd package. app-editors/nano:minimal - Disable all fancy features, including ones that otherwise have a dedicated USE flag (such as spelling). app-office/scribus:minimal - Don't install headers (only required for e.g. plug-in developers) app-portage/gentoolkit:minimal - Install only the gentoolkit core code. app-text/dictd:minimal - Don't build server but dict client, dictzip and dictfmt only. dev-db/mariadb:minimal - Install client programs only, no server dev-db/mysql:minimal - Install client programs only, no server dev-db/unixODBC:minimal - Disable bundled drivers and extra libraries (most users don't need these) dev-libs/libcdio:minimal - Only build the libcdio library and little more, just to be used to link against from multimedia players. With this USE flag enabled, none of the command-line utilities are built, nor is the CDDA library. dev-php/PEAR-HTTP_Download:minimal - Do not include support for PEAR-MIME_Type dev-php/ZendFramework:minimal - Installs the minimal version without Dojo toolkit, tests and demos dev-util/dialog:minimal - Disable library, install command-line program only dev-util/google-perftools:minimal - Only build the tcmalloc_minimal library, ignoring the heap checker and the profilers. mail-client/thunderbird:minimal - Remove the software development kit and headers media-gfx/iscan-plugin-gt-f500:minimal - Install the firmware only, and not the plugin. net-analyzer/munin:minimal - installs only the munin-node, applicable if the host is not the munin master installation net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp:minimal - Don't install headers net-print/hplip:minimal - Only build internal hpijs/hpcups driver (not recommended at all, make sure you know what you are doing) sci-chemistry/oasis:minimal - Restricts functionality on free software sys-apps/smartmontools:minimal - Do not install the monitoring daemon and associated scripts. sys-auth/pambase:minimal - Disables the standard PAM modules that provide extra information to users on login; this includes pam_tally (and pam_tally2 for Linux PAM 1.1 and later), pam_lastlog, pam_motd and other similar modules. This might not be a good idea on a multi-user system but could reduce slightly the overhead on single-user non-networked systems. sys-boot/lilo:minimal - Do not install the dolilo helper script sys-kernel/zen-sources:minimal - Clone git tree with --depth 1 to reduce amount of data to download. Use with caution www-client/firefox:minimal - Prevent sdk and headers from being installed x11-apps/xinit:minimal - Control dependencies on legacy apps (xterm, twm, ...). Safe to enable if you use a modern desktop environment. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?
I have never been able to pair in a2dp mode and pulseaudio with either kdebluetooth nor gnome bluetooth, only blueman seems to be doing a good job for that On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 12:47:00 James Broadhead wrote: On 23 February 2012 12:39, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have changed substantially since, I think. Using 'hcitool inq' works fine, it's the KDE dialogs which sit there searching endlessly. Any recommended settings for /etc/bluetooth/*? Doc is a bit hard to come by. TIA -Robin Not exactly on-topic, but I recently got my bluetooth headset working without any major hassle using net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth by - Building the appropriate communications-types modules - Starting the bluetooth init script - Running bluetooth-wizard to pair and bluetooth-applet to connect/disconnect I'm using net-wireless/bluedevil-1.2.2 and I do not have any such problems. However, I'm not using the whole KDE desktop and I'm still on KDEPIM 4.4.11.1 -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:25:53 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello List, Does 'Layman -L' yield a comprehensive list or does it just poll from a subset of the different Overlay from a select number of sites? layman -L lists all overlays the gentoo overlay infrastructure knows about. Obviously it can't list overlays it has never been informed of. Somewhere in the layman config there's an option to not list overlays a machine can't use (eg git overlays where you don't have a git client), I prefer to just leave it at the default and scan for red, green and yellow asterisks when listing overlays Does such a list exist that references (most) all Overlay repositories and the Overlay ebuilds therein? Are there sites that are known not to trust? If 2 different repositories have different (hacked ebuild) then where do you get information as to which one you should use? Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe there is a site where these Overlays are close to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage, maybe a last stage clearing site or such? No, such a thing would be impossible to maintains and subject to much subjective whinging Do some sites have standards and other sites let anyone put up a development ebuild? I suppose so, just as different developers have different standards and different policies on what patches they will accept 'layman -S' Are the listings automatically refreshed or do you (should you) issue one master command to sync (update) all of the repositories or sync per each repository? layman -S updates all of your local repositories at once Just looking for some feedback on these non official ebuilds, in a general sense. I have had very different experiences with Overlays and was wondering if I have missed some wisdom along the way..? Like everything else in life, people are involved and you have to work on reputation and decide what you like. Sort of like choosing wives - you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless :-) http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Listing_and_Adding_Overlays Best reference on the subject? It's a simple enough topic. Last time I read that page it seemed to cover all reasonable bases, as did the official gentoo doc -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much guaranteed with current browsers. Flash has about 95% coverage. That means virtually everyone has it installed. That's hard to believe. The number of iPads and and iPhones out there is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and never will. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Go on, EMOTE! at I was RAISED on thought gmail.comballoons!!
Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:27:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Feb 24, 2012 4:08 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:36:00 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: I prefer to update portage first, just in case it co-coincides with some update to the tree pedantic old fart mode ON What does co-coincides mean? It's when two coincidences are mutually coincident. That or something involving a hot bedtime drink :) More likely one nightcap too many ;-) My doctor's been telling me for years that a gallon of coffee at 11pm is really not the way to go. I always ignored her. Now I'm not so sure... -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? I leave it off and add it per-package as needed. I suppose the best approach would be for each individual to look at their own copy of what this below does and decide for themselves if the majority is what the need or don;t need (and make a choice): Thanks, I'm switching back to your method. - Grant # euses -sf minimal minimal - Install a very minimal build (disables, for example, plugins, fonts, most drivers, non-critical features) app-crypt/ekeyd:minimal - Only install the ekey-egd-linux service rather than the full ekeyd package. app-editors/nano:minimal - Disable all fancy features, including ones that otherwise have a dedicated USE flag (such as spelling). app-office/scribus:minimal - Don't install headers (only required for e.g. plug-in developers) app-portage/gentoolkit:minimal - Install only the gentoolkit core code. app-text/dictd:minimal - Don't build server but dict client, dictzip and dictfmt only. dev-db/mariadb:minimal - Install client programs only, no server dev-db/mysql:minimal - Install client programs only, no server dev-db/unixODBC:minimal - Disable bundled drivers and extra libraries (most users don't need these) dev-libs/libcdio:minimal - Only build the libcdio library and little more, just to be used to link against from multimedia players. With this USE flag enabled, none of the command-line utilities are built, nor is the CDDA library. dev-php/PEAR-HTTP_Download:minimal - Do not include support for PEAR-MIME_Type dev-php/ZendFramework:minimal - Installs the minimal version without Dojo toolkit, tests and demos dev-util/dialog:minimal - Disable library, install command-line program only dev-util/google-perftools:minimal - Only build the tcmalloc_minimal library, ignoring the heap checker and the profilers. mail-client/thunderbird:minimal - Remove the software development kit and headers media-gfx/iscan-plugin-gt-f500:minimal - Install the firmware only, and not the plugin. net-analyzer/munin:minimal - installs only the munin-node, applicable if the host is not the munin master installation net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp:minimal - Don't install headers net-print/hplip:minimal - Only build internal hpijs/hpcups driver (not recommended at all, make sure you know what you are doing) sci-chemistry/oasis:minimal - Restricts functionality on free software sys-apps/smartmontools:minimal - Do not install the monitoring daemon and associated scripts. sys-auth/pambase:minimal - Disables the standard PAM modules that provide extra information to users on login; this includes pam_tally (and pam_tally2 for Linux PAM 1.1 and later), pam_lastlog, pam_motd and other similar modules. This might not be a good idea on a multi-user system but could reduce slightly the overhead on single-user non-networked systems. sys-boot/lilo:minimal - Do not install the dolilo helper script sys-kernel/zen-sources:minimal - Clone git tree with --depth 1 to reduce amount of data to download. Use with caution www-client/firefox:minimal - Prevent sdk and headers from being installed x11-apps/xinit:minimal - Control dependencies on legacy apps (xterm, twm, ...). Safe to enable if you use a modern desktop environment.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?
El 24/02/2012 09:31, Juan Diego Tascón juantas...@gmail.com escribió: I have never been able to pair in a2dp mode and pulseaudio with either kdebluetooth nor gnome bluetooth, only blueman seems to be doing a good job for that In GNOME (both 2 and 3), you just add the bluetooth headset, and in the sound settings you choose A2DP. That's all. I have never touched the config files under /etc/bluetooth. Regards.
[gentoo-user] Re: Master list of all Overlays
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Sort of like choosing wives - you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless thanks for the feedback. On the subject of wives; it's easier to rent rather than rent-to-own or owning one outright, imho. thanks Alan, James
[gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Once in a while if I reboot I can get it to work, but usually not. Now usb2 works for about a day or so and then either slows way down or the drive is just not seen at all. In those cases there are no log messages at all to give any hint. So, does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening -- the Supermicro people have noclue whatsoever. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] KDE Replace Kwin with something else
Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2012, 02:14:01 schrieb Ignas Anikevicius: On 24/02/12 02:01, Alex Schuster wrote: I find metacity.desktop and openbox.desktop in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/windowmanagers/, so I guess you have to find awesome.desktop, and put it there. Or create such a file yourself like suggestend in the link above. Thank you very much. Copying to this folder the desktop file helped me. I. or just hit alt-F2, type killall kwin awesome. or awesome --replace if it does support that command. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86
On 02/24/12 02:45, Florian Philipp wrote: Let's not forget that whenever you are presented with that warning, it could also be a man-in-the-middle attack. Therefore just clicking on Accept on every site is about the stupidest thing you can do. I'm unsure how the warning looks when you have previously accepted a normally untrusted certificate on that site and now it is different (which could be an indication of MITM). I hope there is a big red flashy warning but I doubt it. Not if the certificate is valid. The only sane way to handle certificates with parties you've never met (i.e. every website) is the SSH method: you accept that, no matter what, there's always going to be one opportunity for a man-in-the-middle attack. The first time you connect, you save the remote server's certificate. If it changes, freak out. The certificate patrol extension does this: http://patrol.psyced.org/ With it, self-signed certificates become more secure than CA-signed ones.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
On Feb 24, 2012 11:37 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Once in a while if I reboot I can get it to work, but usually not. Now usb2 works for about a day or so and then either slows way down or the drive is just not seen at all. In those cases there are no log messages at all to give any hint. So, does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening -- the Supermicro people have noclue whatsoever. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. It's non-reproducible, so I expect a mobo going bad. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 02/24/12 02:45, Florian Philipp wrote: Let's not forget that whenever you are presented with that warning, it could also be a man-in-the-middle attack. Therefore just clicking on Accept on every site is about the stupidest thing you can do. I'm unsure how the warning looks when you have previously accepted a normally untrusted certificate on that site and now it is different (which could be an indication of MITM). I hope there is a big red flashy warning but I doubt it. Not if the certificate is valid. The only sane way to handle certificates with parties you've never met (i.e. every website) is the SSH method: you accept that, no matter what, there's always going to be one opportunity for a man-in-the-middle attack. The first time you connect, you save the remote server's certificate. If it changes, freak out. The certificate patrol extension does this: http://patrol.psyced.org/ With it, self-signed certificates become more secure than CA-signed ones. Thanks for the link. The MultiZilla extension way back in the Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey 1.x days treated certificates like this: you had to approve all certs the first time, even if they were from a trusted CA and if it ever changed for any reason, it would refuse to connect unless you approved the new cert. It seems to me that's how it should *always* work, in all software that uses SSL certificates, but I understand wanting to keep it simple for non-technical users... but those are the very users most at risk, probably the most likely to use hostile wifi networks (in my mind, hostile is anything other than the router I control at my house). Additionally http://perspectives-project.org/ or http://convergence.io/ can help you in establishing the initial trust and are an attempt at eliminating the need to trust CAs at all.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Once in a while if I reboot I can get it to work, but usually not. Now usb2 works for about a day or so and then either slows way down or the drive is just not seen at all. In those cases there are no log messages at all to give any hint. So, does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening -- the Supermicro people have noclue whatsoever. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. You might try posting to the usb-storage mailing list, people working on the USB3 drivers are there and might know more about that specific chipset and what those messages really mean. https://lists.one-eyed-alien.net/mailman/listinfo/usb-storage
[gentoo-user] nvidia module, __raw_spin_lock_init
Is anyone else able to get nvidia-drivers 290.10 to load into a kernel from gentoo-sources 3.2.1-r2? This box has been headless for so long, I really don't have a good baseline comparison. When I try to load the module, I get nvidia: Unknown symbol __raw_spin_lock_init (err 0). -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Midori and Flash
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Now I'd also like to use Midori, as a lightweight browser for using Google+. The reason is that when I open Google+ in Firefox, I am also logged in at Google when I using other tabs with Youtube or other Google sites. If there's a way around this, I'd be happy to know about it. But so I just thought, why not use Midori for Google+ only. But it doesn't do Flash. In Firefox you can create multiple profiles. Each profile will have its own set of cookies, bookmarks, history, saved passwords, etc. To open 2 firefox windows with 2 different profiles at once, launch it with: firefox -P -no-remote There are firefox add-ons such as cookieswap to maintain separate sets of cookies and sessions that you can toggle, instead of needing to logout and login you just swap cookies then open youtube or whatever... As mentioned already if you're using Google services, they support multiple sign-in on most of their sites now (recently added to Youtube), so you can easily switch between accounts. There is another Firefox addon called Yoono that claims to give you per-tab session profiles but I have not personally tried it. I don't like the way their website looks and the whole thing seems kind of Windoze-spammy-looking to me, but maybe I'm just overly paranoid. Maybe I'll try it in a VM with wireshark and see what it does. ;) On Symbian/Maemo/MeeGo phones there is a Qt/WebKit-based web browser called MobWebMail which is specifically designed for Gmail. It has multiple cookie sessions support built in, very handy to switch between accounts and never need to logout or login in the process.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 14:13:29 james wrote: Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: The thing is that apple smartphones and tablets do not offer flash. Desktop volumes are in decline, while smartphones and tablets sales are increasing. This could be seasonal of course, but if the future moves away from the flash capable desktop, then flash will become increasingly obsolete. I sympathize with where you are headed. But reality is FLASH is very entrenched. Numerous sites, that I have no choice but to use, use FLASH in a centric role. This is going to force folks to have a doz system for reliable access. Hopefully by then Windos.x will be easily setup in a VM on Linux, so the requisite browser can be launched therein. or some solution. For example, much of the State of Florida's online education offered requires FLASH. No amount of complaints will change that. No other alternatives. You cannot just 'will' away Flash, imho. Thanks to all for the input, as I shall just 'wait and see'... If you go back a few years there was no flash. Then flash arrived and some web designers went mad at creating flash-only websites. Very very poor google rankings was not a problem for them, as long as the site looked errrm ... flash? Ha, ha! Then common sense followed where by flash elements were added, but websites retained (X)HTML, CSS and javascript. In the future it is likely that HTML5, continuously improving javascript functionality and perhaps some new technology will render flash redundant; but I agree with you that this won't likely happen overnight. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia module, __raw_spin_lock_init
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else able to get nvidia-drivers 290.10 to load into a kernel from gentoo-sources 3.2.1-r2? This box has been headless for so long, I really don't have a good baseline comparison. When I try to load the module, I get nvidia: Unknown symbol __raw_spin_lock_init (err 0). Figured out that one; I had to enable DEBUG_SPINLOCK. Now I'm trying to figure out why I get: [ 30.650581] NVRM: Can't find an IRQ for your NVIDIA card! [ 30.650587] NVRM: Please check your BIOS settings. [ 30.650591] NVRM: [Plug Play OS] should be set to NO [ 30.650595] NVRM: [Assign IRQ to VGA] should be set to YES [ 30.650610] nvidia: probe of :01:00.0 failed with error -1 [ 30.650634] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine failed for 1 device(s). [ 30.650636] NVRM: None of the NVIDIA graphics adapters were initialized! lspci -kvv shows: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 2011 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18 Region 0: Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Region 1: Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Region 3: Memory at ce00 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] Region 5: I/O ports at cc00 [size=128] Expansion ROM at fb20 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel modules: nvidia Any ideas? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia module, __raw_spin_lock_init
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
Is anyone else able to get nvidia-drivers 290.10 to load into a kernel
from gentoo-sources 3.2.1-r2? This box has been headless for so long,
I really don't have a good baseline comparison.
When I try to load the module, I get nvidia: Unknown symbol
__raw_spin_lock_init (err 0).
Figured out that one; I had to enable DEBUG_SPINLOCK.
Now I'm trying to figure out why I get:
[ 30.650581] NVRM: Can't find an IRQ for your NVIDIA card!
[ 30.650587] NVRM: Please check your BIOS settings.
[ 30.650591] NVRM: [Plug Play OS] should be set to NO
[ 30.650595] NVRM: [Assign IRQ to VGA] should be set to YES
[ 30.650610] nvidia: probe of :01:00.0 failed with error -1
[ 30.650634] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine failed for 1 device(s).
[ 30.650636] NVRM: None of the NVIDIA graphics adapters were initialized!
lspci -kvv shows:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GeForce
210] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 2011
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort-
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
Region 0: Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Region 1: Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 3: Memory at ce00 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Region 5: I/O ports at cc00 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at fb20 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel modules: nvidia
Any ideas?
--
:wq
I'm currently running 295.20 but I'm fairly sure I ran 295.10 also
with my GTX465. If there's something specific you want I'll send it
off list.
TH,
Mark
mark@c2stable ~ $ uname -a
Linux c2stable 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 26 12:41:42 PST
2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz GenuineIntel
GNU/Linux
mark@c2stable ~ $ eix -I nvidia-drivers
[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
Available versions: 96.43.20!s 173.14.31!s 275.09.07!s
(~)275.43!s 290.10!s (~)290.10-r2!s (~)295.20-r1!s (~)295.20-r1!s[1]
{acpi custom-cflags gtk kernel_linux multilib}
Installed versions: 295.20-r1!s(02:33:05 PM 02/18/2012)(acpi gtk
kernel_linux multilib -custom-cflags)
Homepage:http://www.nvidia.com/
Description: NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries
[1] init6 /var/lib/layman/init6
mark@c2stable ~ $
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev
a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. Device 1301
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort-
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 32
Region 0: Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Region 1: Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Region 3: Memory at ce00 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Region 5: I/O ports at ac00 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fba0 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Address: Data:
Capabilities: [78] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s
unlimited, L1 64us
ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal-
Unsupported-
RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq-
AuxPwr- TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #2, Speed 5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1,
Latency L0 512ns, L1 4us
ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed 5GT/s, Width x8, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+
DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis+
DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-
LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance-
SpeedDis-,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Master list of all Overlays
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:18:57 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Sort of like choosing wives - you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless thanks for the feedback. On the subject of wives; it's easier to rent rather than rent-to-own or owning one outright, imho. I once worked for a fellow who did the math on that. He actually (no kidding) worked out the true cost of ownership of a wife over 40 years and compared it to the rental the services of a professional nudgenudgewinkwink twice a week. All corrected for expected inflation etc etc etc. He found that ownership was more expensive than ownership by a large margin - a factor of five. And he got to keep the bachelor lifestyle. He wasn't an especially happy fellow mind you, but that doesn't matter. He had done the math! (and was proud of it) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On 23 February 2012 21:29, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I'm amazed but disconnecting and reconnecting the IDE and power cable
fixed it. Which is your favorite tool for testing a HD's integrity
with and without S.M.A.R.T. support?
[I] gnome-extra/gsmartcontrol [1]
Available versions: (~)0.8.6 {debug}
Installed versions: 0.8.6(16:47:27 13/02/12)(-debug)
Homepage:http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/
Description: Graphical user interface for smartctl
[1] sunrise /var/lib/layman/sunrise
Is a great (and sorely needed) frontend for smartmontools - it even
colours lines in red when they indicate imminent failure!
Make sure that you have read the Google paper before trusting SMART
too far though -- they found (among other things) that it only
accurately predicts failure in 50% of cases.
Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:55:21 +
James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 February 2012 21:29, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I'm amazed but disconnecting and reconnecting the IDE and power
cable fixed it. Which is your favorite tool for testing a HD's
integrity with and without S.M.A.R.T. support?
[I] gnome-extra/gsmartcontrol [1]
Available versions: (~)0.8.6 {debug}
Installed versions: 0.8.6(16:47:27 13/02/12)(-debug)
Homepage:http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/
Description: Graphical user interface for smartctl
[1] sunrise /var/lib/layman/sunrise
Is a great (and sorely needed) frontend for smartmontools - it even
colours lines in red when they indicate imminent failure!
Make sure that you have read the Google paper before trusting SMART
too far though -- they found (among other things) that it only
accurately predicts failure in 50% of cases.
That's a fair trade in my book, seeing as without it I could
manage to accurately predict failure in 0% of cases.
Now to get the managers to understand that it's 50%, not 100% and stop
the endless whinging when SAN drives fail without prior SMART alerts
While on the topic, has anyone heard of research into false positives
wrt S.M.A.R.T?
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Once in a while if I reboot I can get it to work, but usually not. Now usb2 works for about a day or so and then either slows way down or the drive is just not seen at all. In those cases there are no log messages at all to give any hint. So, does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening -- the Supermicro people have noclue whatsoever. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. You might try posting to the usb-storage mailing list, people working on the USB3 drivers are there and might know more about that specific chipset and what those messages really mean. https://lists.one-eyed-alien.net/mailman/listinfo/usb-storage That link seems not to work -- I get Unable to locate remote host lists.one-eyed-alien.net Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:35 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much guaranteed with current browsers. Flash has about 95% coverage. That means virtually everyone has it installed. That's hard to believe. The number of iPads and and iPhones out there is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and never will. Work supplied an ipad for me - what a pain. So many sites use flash its relegated to toy status even for web browsing. For my Cisco Netacademy work Ive installed win7 in qemu and access via rdp so I can use view flash, webinars etc. On a recent trip to Europe we took my wifes ipad and at the last minute added my old sony vaio (gentoo) laptop to the luggage - as well we did or we would have been stranded - so many booking/travel information sites use flash ... Reality is (for us) we cant do without being able to view flash content. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
On 2012-02-24 17:34, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Hm... Just a hunch here since I don't know the exact details regarding your setup but you might experience something similar to what I had for a while before figuring out how to fix it... On my Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard I had similar problems with USB (don't remember the exact error messages but yours seems familiar). This was fixed by setting the IOMMU to OFF in BIOS (UEFI). Perhaps want to give it a try to see if it works for you? Of course you'll loose any benefit from IOMMU (if you are running VMs) but... Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:17:34AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the kernel config files in /boot? I'd say it's more likely to be getting it from /proc/config.gz. But why start with a clean config each time? That means you have plenty of opportunities to produce a broken kernel on every update. -- Neil Bothwick This is as bad as it can get; but don't bet on it. yea, I was thinking along those line, too. If I had to start from scratch each update, what a chore that would be! Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:08:22PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:48:35 +0200 Coert Waagmeester lgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote: On 02/23/2012 11:17 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the kernel config files in /boot? I'd say it's more likely to be getting it from /proc/config.gz. But why start with a clean config each time? That means you have plenty of opportunities to produce a broken kernel on every update. Is there a way to import old config files with newer kernel sources? I tried it once by simply copying .config into the newer src dir, but I read somewhere that there could be incompatibilities. That is exactly how you do it. Copy a .config over and run make oldconfig Yes, there could be incompatibilities. This might happen once every few years when you do an upgrade over 10 version numbers. But that can be fixed. Not doing it this way means a very high likelyhood of the machine not booting with every single upgrade, plus the huge amount of work it takes to go through everything in menuconfig. The choices are simple, - low risk of occasional breakage - high risk of frequent breakage -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:10:45AM -0800, Grant wrote: [snip] I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I have been using xlock forever - many more modes than xscreensaver, and just a simple binary to worry about. Terry I think I'm going with xautolock and either vlock or xlockmore. It looks like there isn't an init.d script for xautolock. What is the best way to run it automatically in Gentoo? Is there a keyboard shortcut to trigger xautolock? - Grant Grant, I run it among the startup scripts of my window manager. You could also put it ~/.xinitrc, but I don't think you can start it before your X server is up and running. If your wm has a keyboard shortcut config, it would be simple to bind it to a key, as well. HTH. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:25:53 + (UTC), James wrote: If 2 different repositories have different (hacked ebuild) then where do you get information as to which one you should use? Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe there is a site where these Overlays are close to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage, maybe a last stage clearing site or such? Look at who runs the overlay and what they do in Gentoo. Some overlays, such as kde and vmware, are testing grounds for ebuilds that will eventually end up in the main tree. -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini, vomui I came, I got ratted, I threw up signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: You might try posting to the usb-storage mailing list, people working on the USB3 drivers are there and might know more about that specific chipset and what those messages really mean. https://lists.one-eyed-alien.net/mailman/listinfo/usb-storage That link seems not to work -- I get Unable to locate remote host lists.one-eyed-alien.net Oops, sorry, that was an old link. They moved the list to Google groups: http://groups.google.com/a/lists.one-eyed-alien.net/group/usb-storage/
Re: [gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:14:18 -0800, Grant wrote: I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? I read somewhere, can't remember where exactly, that you should not enable this flag globally, and I agree. The effect varies from one package to another, it's not like jpeg, which has predictable and largely consistent effects on all packages that use it. For example, with server/client packages, it usually disables building of the server part, whereas you have already found it does something completely different with vim. Check to see what it does on an individual package and then enable it in package.use. -- Neil Bothwick Tell me, and I will forget. Show me, and I will remember. Involve me, and I will learn. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0800, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. make oldconfig is not the risk, importing the old config is. oldconfig tries to convert the old config to suit the new kernel, with a success rate probably in excess of 99%, despite what has been written about it. Using the old .config without make oldconfig is a good way of getting the worst of both worlds. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #56: Operator fell asleep while waiting. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:02:38 +, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0800, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. make oldconfig is not the risk, importing the old config is. oldconfig tries to convert the old config to suit the new kernel, with a success rate probably in excess of 99%, despite what has been written about it. Using the old .config without make oldconfig is a good way of getting the worst of both worlds. The previous poster is doing make menuconfig. This silently performs a make oldconfig before presenting the menu. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0800, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. make oldconfig is not the risk, importing the old config is. oldconfig tries to convert the old config to suit the new kernel, with a success rate probably in excess of 99%, despite what has been written about it. Using the old .config without make oldconfig is a good way of getting the worst of both worlds. Of all the upgrades I have done, I have only had make oldconfig fail once. When I posted here, I think it was Alan that said it was a major change in the kernel menu that messed it up. That was a few years ago. 99% is likely about right. One failure so far and waiting on the next major change in the menu for failure #2. Now watch it fail the very next time I use it. O_o Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
Am Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:16:35 -0800 schrieb Grant emailgr...@gmail.com: [snip] I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I have been using xlock forever - many more modes than xscreensaver, and just a simple binary to worry about. Terry I think I'm going with xautolock and either vlock or xlockmore. It looks like there isn't an init.d script for xautolock. What is the best way to run it automatically in Gentoo? I start xautolock from my .xinitrc. Is there a keyboard shortcut to trigger xautolock? No, you will need to configure your environment. I configured a shortcut for my window manager that executes xautolock -locknow, but you could also probably use something like xbindkeys instead. Thanks Marc. - Grant Late realisation: I should probably respond to this :) . So, you're welcome! -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is my mobo incompatible with Linux?
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-02-24 17:34, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I have a Supermicro c7P67-o motherboard and I have another system using windows with no problems. However, when I am trying to use the board with gentoo -- various kernels -- including 3.2.6-gentoo -- I am having lots of problems with USB. The board has two usb3 connectors and most of the time when I plug a usb3 enclosure into one of those, I get lots of errors such as Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: xhci_hcd :04:00.0: Timeout while waiting for address device command Feb 23 10:27:31 ccs kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 2, error -62 Hm... Just a hunch here since I don't know the exact details regarding your setup but you might experience something similar to what I had for a while before figuring out how to fix it... On my Asus Sabertooth 990FX motherboard I had similar problems with USB (don't remember the exact error messages but yours seems familiar). This was fixed by setting the IOMMU to OFF in BIOS (UEFI). Perhaps want to give it a try to see if it works for you? Of course you'll loose any benefit from IOMMU (if you are running VMs) but... I don't have a UEFI BIOS -- at least the interface looks the same as a normal one -- I wonder where would I find such a setting? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much guaranteed with current browsers. Flash has about 95% coverage. That means virtually everyone has it installed. That's hard to believe. The number of iPads and and iPhones out there is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and never will. In PCs, not other machines.
Re: [gentoo-user] do you USE=minimal in /etc/make.conf?
I try to run a minimal system in general so I added the minimal USE flag to /etc/make.conf. The only difference I've noticed so far is the lack of color in vim. Do you add minimal to /etc/make.conf and remove it as necessary in package.use or the other way around? I read somewhere, can't remember where exactly, that you should not enable this flag globally, and I agree. The effect varies from one package to another, it's not like jpeg, which has predictable and largely consistent effects on all packages that use it. For example, with server/client packages, it usually disables building of the server part, whereas you have already found it does something completely different with vim. Check to see what it does on an individual package and then enable it in package.use. I've found the same thing. It does something different to just about every package. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:02:38PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0800, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. make oldconfig is not the risk, importing the old config is. oldconfig tries to convert the old config to suit the new kernel, with a success rate probably in excess of 99%, despite what has been written about it. Using the old .config without make oldconfig is a good way of getting the worst of both worlds. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #56: Operator fell asleep while waiting. I don't mean to be petty, so forgive me - but I needed to check to see if I'd misread the kernel upgrade guide. So I went back and checked the guide, and I was confirmed in my impression. From the guide: #Start Quotes It is sometimes possible to save time by re-using the configuration file from your old kernel when configuring the new one. Note that this is generally unsafe -- too many changes between every kernel release for this to be a reliable upgrade path. The only situation where this is appropriate is when upgrading from one Gentoo kernel revision to another. For example, the changes made between gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r1 and gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r2 will be very small, so it is usually OK to use the following method. However, it is not appropriate to use it in the example used throughout this document: upgrading from 2.6.8 to 2.6.9. Too many changes between the official releases, and the method described below does not display enough context to the user, often resulting in the user running into problems because they disabled options that they really didn't want to. To reuse your old .config, you simply need to copy it over and then run make oldconfig. In the following example, we take the configuration from gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r1 and import it into gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r2. A much safer upgrading method is to copy your config as previously shown, and then simply run make menuconfig. This avoids the problems of make oldconfig mentioned previously, as make menuconfig will load up your previous configuration as much as possible into the menu. Now all you have to do is go through each option and look for new sections, removals, and so on. By using menuconfig, you gain context for all the new changes, and can easily view the new choices and review help screens much easier. You can even use this for upgrades such as 2.6.8 to 2.6.9; just make sure you read through the options carefully. Once you've finished, compile and install your kernel as normal. #End Quotes Terry
[gentoo-user] Safe way to test a new kernel?
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?
On Feb 25, 2012 4:54 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: 8 snip Work supplied an ipad for me - what a pain. So many sites use flash its relegated to toy status even for web browsing. For my Cisco Netacademy work Ive installed win7 in qemu and access via rdp so I can use view flash, webinars etc. On a recent trip to Europe we took my wifes ipad and at the last minute added my old sony vaio (gentoo) laptop to the luggage - as well we did or we would have been stranded - so many booking/travel information sites use flash ... Reality is (for us) we cant do without being able to view flash content. BillK True, that. That's why I prefer Android tablets to iPads. Rgds,
[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e and edit it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press b to boot your modified entry. That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current one doesn't work.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e and edit it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press b to boot your modified entry. That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current one doesn't work. I can't do that remotely though. I'm probably asking for something that doesn't exist. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:02:38PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:11:24 -0800, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Or just import .config into the 'New' directory, and run plain ol' make menuconfig. Menuconfig will import what it can from the old config. From what I've read of the docs, make oldconfig is the dangerous part that should be avoided between substantial kernel updates. make oldconfig is not the risk, importing the old config is. oldconfig tries to convert the old config to suit the new kernel, with a success rate probably in excess of 99%, despite what has been written about it. Using the old .config without make oldconfig is a good way of getting the worst of both worlds. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #56: Operator fell asleep while waiting. I don't mean to be petty, so forgive me - but I needed to check to see if I'd misread the kernel upgrade guide. So I went back and checked the guide, and I was confirmed in my impression. From the guide: #Start Quotes It is sometimes possible to save time by re-using the configuration file from your old kernel when configuring the new one. Note that this is generally unsafe -- too many changes between every kernel release for this to be a reliable upgrade path. The only situation where this is appropriate is when upgrading from one Gentoo kernel revision to another. For example, the changes made between gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r1 and gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r2 will be very small, so it is usually OK to use the following method. However, it is not appropriate to use it in the example used throughout this document: upgrading from 2.6.8 to 2.6.9. Too many changes between the official releases, and the method described below does not display enough context to the user, often resulting in the user running into problems because they disabled options that they really didn't want to. To reuse your old .config, you simply need to copy it over and then run make oldconfig. In the following example, we take the configuration from gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r1 and import it into gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r2. A much safer upgrading method is to copy your config as previously shown, and then simply run make menuconfig. This avoids the problems of make oldconfig mentioned previously, as make menuconfig will load up your previous configuration as much as possible into the menu. Now all you have to do is go through each option and look for new sections, removals, and so on. By using menuconfig, you gain context for all the new changes, and can easily view the new choices and review help screens much easier. You can even use this for upgrades such as 2.6.8 to 2.6.9; just make sure you read through the options carefully. Once you've finished, compile and install your kernel as normal. #End Quotes Terry That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not necessarily the most used way. There are lots of things I do differently from the docs and my system generally works fine, except for the little roaches that scurry about from time to time. If you want a drop dead, almost as sure as the Sun comes up in the East approach, go by the docs. If you want to save some time for most general usage, do it the way us goofy geeks do it. Some of us know some neat shortcuts. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? Oh crap, you said remote system. Somehow I missed that. Ignore my previous post since obviously accessing Grub on a remote machine would require a hardware VNC module (if you had that, then you wouldn't have posted about the issue in the first place, I assume.) The way I dealt with it, is to use the boot once functionality of Grub: http://weichong78.blogspot.com/2007/04/grub-test-kernel-once.html I didn't bother with the panic handler, since I had remote hard-reset functionality (I recommend it; it can save your day.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e and edit it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press b to boot your modified entry. That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current one doesn't work. I can't do that remotely though. I'm probably asking for something that doesn't exist. What's the nature of the remote box? For example, I have a xen vps for which I can access the console via ssh to the xen host machine. I can get at the grub menu that way. I think grub supports serial consoles, but I don't know... -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e and edit it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press b to boot your modified entry. That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current one doesn't work. I can't do that remotely though. I'm probably asking for something that doesn't exist. - Grant There is a couple people on here that handle remote machines. I'd be shocked if there isn't a way to do this. Just give them a bit to see the thread. I vaguely recall someone mentioning this but since my remote machine is about 20 feet away, I didn't make notes. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?
On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e and edit it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press b to boot your modified entry. That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current one doesn't work. I can't do that remotely though. I'm probably asking for something that doesn't exist. - Grant Situations like these that made me decide with great conviction to always deploy my servers virtualized, even if the box in question will only host a single VM. Now, if I lost my intelligence for a couple of seconds and somehow ended up with a VM that's no longer accessible remotely, I just connect to the virtual console. The flip side? Now I'm getting too daring/careless, and the uptime now drops below my (self-imposed) target of 99.99% :-P Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness
On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: 8snip That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not necessarily the most used way. There are lots of things I do differently from the docs and my system generally works fine, except for the little roaches that scurry about from time to time. If you want a drop dead, almost as sure as the Sun comes up in the East approach, go by the docs. If you want to save some time for most general usage, do it the way us goofy geeks do it. Some of us know some neat shortcuts. Dale I tend to do an 'eyeball dryrun' first: start tmux, create 2 'windows', do make menuconfig of the older kernel in the first window, and start make menuconfig in the second. I quickly compare the menu structure of both to see where the implicit oldconfig might choke, do some research if necessary, and make notes. Then, I exit the newer menuconfig and cp the older .config to the newer src directory, and start make menuconfig again. I keep comparing what I'm doing against what I've done in window #1. Never had a kernel upgrade failure this way -- touch wood! Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Midori and Flash
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Now I'd also like to use Midori, as a lightweight browser for using Google+. The reason is that when I open Google+ in Firefox, I am also logged in at Google when I using other tabs with Youtube or other Google sites. If there's a way around this, I'd be happy to know about it. But so I just thought, why not use Midori for Google+ only. But it doesn't do Flash. I could swear I downloaded the latest tar.gz from Adobe, created ~/.mozilla/plugins, and threw the libflashplayer.so file in there without any problems. Been it's been a few months since I've had Midori installed. - Henson
[gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
Hi folks, I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult for me. I can do some command line stuff but nothing more than getting time from someplace to make my clock be correct, heh. I've been using SuSE/openSUSE now for all those 12 years but I'm becoming somewhat disgruntled with the direction I feel it's going (don't ask, it'll just get me started rantin' and ravin'). I've looked at Slackware, but the package management looks just a little bit more than I can try to handle at first without getting frustrated and scrubbing it off my hard drive. I've looked at a *LOT* of other distro's and too many use Gnome (I can't stand it, that's my opinion so don't try to argue with me to change), some are a bit too minimalistic and others too much like openSUSE is now - huge. I finally came upon Gentoo and for the past few days I've been reading and looking at things and so far it seems to be what I'm wanting to switch to, but here's my quandary: I'm dirt-poor and have only a dial-up connection. The Portage package management seems extremely nice, but will it be a problem for me to upgrade say just one package/app at a time? Will I be able to find a tarball of an app I want to try out and be able to build it like I would with rpmbuild (will it be as relatively easy as that)? Is there a 'repository' of apps anywhere that I can go to to look and see if the app I normally use for something is there? There's probably more questions, but I best keep this short for now, lol. Thanks for any replies and help with these things and I hope I made enough sense for everyone to understand what I'm trying to get at. JB -- I meanif I went 'round sayin' I was an emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away! -Dennis from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult for me. I can do some command line stuff but nothing more than getting time from someplace to make my clock be correct, heh. I've been using SuSE/openSUSE now for all those 12 years but I'm becoming somewhat disgruntled with the direction I feel it's going (don't ask, it'll just get me started rantin' and ravin'). I've looked at Slackware, but the package management looks just a little bit more than I can try to handle at first without getting frustrated and scrubbing it off my hard drive. I've looked at a *LOT* of other distro's and too many use Gnome (I can't stand it, that's my opinion so don't try to argue with me to change), some are a bit too minimalistic and others too much like openSUSE is now - huge. I finally came upon Gentoo and for the past few days I've been reading and looking at things and so far it seems to be what I'm wanting to switch to, but here's my quandary: I'm dirt-poor and have only a dial-up connection. The Portage package management seems extremely nice, but will it be a problem for me to upgrade say just one package/app at a time? Will I be able to find a tarball of an app I want to try out and be able to build it like I would with rpmbuild (will it be as relatively easy as that)? Is there a 'repository' of apps anywhere that I can go to to look and see if the app I normally use for something is there? There's probably more questions, but I best keep this short for now, lol. Thanks for any replies and help with these things and I hope I made enough sense for everyone to understand what I'm trying to get at. JB Have a look at Sabayon. It's Gentoo-based, but it comes with binary repository (although you can easily use portage if you want). It offers 'out of the box' support for KDE4, xfce, or gnome3. Others are available but you have to compile them yourself (via portage). Rgds,
[gentoo-user] Weird XFS problem
Hi, I'm using XFS on /home and facing a strange issue. When I add acl to the mount options in /etc/fstab, the FS fails to mount during boot with an error in dmesg which says invalid option acl whereas I'm able to mount it using the mount command from the CLI. For now I'm using a script in local.d to remount it with acl, but why is this happening? Also, XFS is compiled right into the kernel, not as a module (I believe, because there's no module xfs in /lib/modules/3.2.6-gentoo. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Have a look at Sabayon. It's Gentoo-based, but it comes with binary repository (although you can easily use portage if you want). It offers 'out of the box' support for KDE4, xfce, or gnome3. Others are available but you have to compile them yourself (via portage). Rgds, Will do. Thank you! -- There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. -Theodore Roosevelt, 1915
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?
On 24 February 2012 22:04, John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Have a look at Sabayon. It's Gentoo-based, but it comes with binary repository (although you can easily use portage if you want). It offers 'out of the box' support for KDE4, xfce, or gnome3. Others are available but you have to compile them yourself (via portage). Rgds, Will do. Thank you! -- There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. -Theodore Roosevelt, 1915 Gentoo is for everyone. And I love it! -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird XFS problem
On Feb 25, 2012 10:34 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: Hi, I'm using XFS on /home and facing a strange issue. When I add acl to the mount options in /etc/fstab, the FS fails to mount during boot with an error in dmesg which says invalid option acl whereas I'm able to mount it using the mount command from the CLI. For now I'm using a script in local.d to remount it with acl, but why is this happening? Also, XFS is compiled right into the kernel, not as a module (I believe, because there's no module xfs in /lib/modules/3.2.6-gentoo. AFAIK, by default XFS is mounted with acl support. Plus, I can't find any acl word in the documentation: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txt;hb=HEAD CMIIW, I never use XFS before in my life. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird XFS problem
On Sat 25 Feb 2012 09:35:22 AM IST, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:34 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan cont...@nileshgr.com mailto:cont...@nileshgr.com wrote: Hi, I'm using XFS on /home and facing a strange issue. When I add acl to the mount options in /etc/fstab, the FS fails to mount during boot with an error in dmesg which says invalid option acl whereas I'm able to mount it using the mount command from the CLI. For now I'm using a script in local.d to remount it with acl, but why is this happening? Also, XFS is compiled right into the kernel, not as a module (I believe, because there's no module xfs in /lib/modules/3.2.6-gentoo. AFAIK, by default XFS is mounted with acl support. Plus, I can't find any acl word in the documentation: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txt;hb=HEAD CMIIW, I never use XFS before in my life. Rgds, Well, I use XFS for performance. Earlier I was using ext4 and troubled with sluggishness. Recently I came to know that ext4 has a mount option data=writeback which improves performance manifolds (using that on servers and it does do well than with the default ordered mode). -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:13:07AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote The speed gains of building for specific submodels of CPUs might be there, but they're minimal. Benchmarks have shown (can't find the article, it was on Phoronix) that after -march=i686 you get diminishing returns. In that case, the benchmarks are useless. From my personal experience... a fresh i686 install on a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU was not able to keep up with the slowest available speed on NHL Gamecenter Live. Ditto for 1080i TV from my HDHomerun tuner box. After rebuilding system+world+kernel with march=native, it works just fine for the above tasks. I'm not the only one to see this. See thread... Slow not in sync movie playing with mplayer2, ffmpeg, x264 with intel core i5 starting Sun, 12 Feb 2012 on this list. As I mentioned in that thread Optimizing one library may seem very minor, but it all adds up when you optimize every library on your system. To get the full benefit of optimization, you need to optimize your entire system. The i686 code used for the install CD has to be generic lowest-common-denominator i686 code, in order to run on every 6-year-old i686 cpu out there. The tradeoff is that you lose the benefits of optimisation. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] How to read fan speed of my graphics card?
Hi, to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti (made by MSI) graphics card I need a way to read it in userland. I tried lm_sensors for this but without any success -- but I have to admit of not haveing much knowledge about these things, though. That is the reason for asking for help here. How can I accomplish this? With what I can experiment for this purpose? Thank you very much in advance for any help or hint! Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] How to read fan speed of my graphics card?
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti (made by MSI) graphics card I need a way to read it in userland. I tried lm_sensors for this but without any success -- but I have to admit of not haveing much knowledge about these things, though. That is the reason for asking for help here. How can I accomplish this? With what I can experiment for this purpose? the nvidia configuration utility (nvidia-settings) displays this info under the Thermal Settings tab. AFAIK is also a way to get it to print the info to STDOUT .. just mess arround with the cmd line arguments to nvidia-settings. -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and a seal. -- Mark Twain
