[gentoo-user] dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 requires SIP v4.13.3 or later

2012-06-22 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I'm doing my KDE4 upgrades and ran into this:

root@fireball / # cat
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/temp/build.log
 * Package:dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: q...@gentoo.org pyt...@gentoo.org
 * Upstream:   p...@riverbankcomputing.com p...@riverbankcomputing.com
 * USE:X amd64 consolekit dbus declarative elibc_glibc kde
kernel_linux multilib opengl phonon policykit sql svg userland_GNU webkit
 * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking PyQt-x11-gpl-4.9.2.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work
 Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work
 Preparing source in
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-4.9.2 ...
 * Applying PyQt4-4.7.2-configure.py.patch ...
 [ ok ]
 * Preparation of dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 with CPython 2.7...
 * Preparation of dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 with CPython 3.2...
 Source prepared.
 Configuring source in
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-4.9.2 ...
 * Configuration of dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 with CPython 2.7...
python2.7 configure.py --confirm-license --bindir=/usr/bin
--destdir=/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages --sipdir=/usr/share/sip
--assume-shared --no-timestamp --qsci-api --enable=QtCore
--enable=QtNetwork --enable=QtScript --enable=QtXml --enable=QtGui
--enable=QtDesigner --enable=QtScriptTools --enable=QtTest
--enable=QtDBus --enable=QtDeclarative --enable=QtOpenGL --enable=phonon
--enable=QtSql --enable=QtSvg --enable=QtWebKit
CC=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CXX=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++
LINK=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ LINK_SHLIB=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe
LFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.13.3 or later
 * ERROR: dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 failed (configure phase):
 *   (no error message)
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line   85:  Called src_configure
 *   environment, line 4969:  Called python_execute_function '-s'
'configuration'
 *   environment, line 3264:  Called configuration
 *   environment, line 4954:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   ${myconf[@]} || die;
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2'`.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory:
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-4.9.2-2.7'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-4.9.2'
root@fireball / #


I notice tho that portage seems to have failed to notice this was
needed.  Should I file a bug report or is this just me? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
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you interpreted my words!

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EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia-drivers + kernel 3.4

2012-06-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 05:49:39AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote

 I don't suspend on my machines: Nvidia is running on my desktop PC.

  I live in a condo building, with a separate electric meter for each
suite.  I'm conserving a valuable resource, i.e. my bank account G, by
shutting down the machine overnight, etc.  I noticed a problem with
suspend, but I didn't realize the connection with Nvidia 302.17.

 I do have a problem that occasionally an image on Firefox overflows
  this then infects all the other desktop displays: it is cured by
 killing FF  re-opening it.  That seems, however, to be due to Firefox
 13 or possibly Flash, not to Nvidia, which I've only just updated.

  It seems to be a problem with Nvidia+Flash.  E.g. start a Youtube
Flash video in FF.  Then drag an xterm over the FF window.  You've seen
the images where xterms have a background image?  Well this goes one
step further... there's actually a live video image playing under the
text.  Somewhat distracting, to say the least.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] I/net server throttling

2012-06-22 Thread Mick
On Friday 22 Jun 2012 05:41:14 Philip Webb wrote:
 In recent weeks, I've seen many instances of downloads of files
 coming in small segments, which seem to be the same for each server,
 but vary between different servers.  Some Gentoo mirrors suffer this way
 -- not all --  some general news sites, eg when delivering videos,
 which run for a few secs, then freeze, then resume etc.
 Once I observed a server doing this for several hours (a large file),
 then suddenly loosening up  delivering the rest of the file in one go.
 
 Does anyone else have similar experiences or any comments ?

Yes, when I use the wireless network at work.  It could be the ISP or it could 
be other users taking up bandwidth.  Really early in the morning performance 
is generally higher than during work hours.

So what I'm saying is that this could be due to contention on the local 
network, or the ISP's pipe.  Do you get such problems off peak hours?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Should I re-emerge after switching to new gcc profile?

2012-06-22 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 06/21/2012 09:44:28 PM, walt wrote:

On 06/21/2012 08:40 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
 Now, the question is:
 Do I need to re-emerge something due to having new gcc?
 I'm pretty sure not, but just wanted to ask.

Technically, you should re-emerge c++ apps because you are
now using a newer version of libstc++.  IRL I suspect that
nobody bothers to do that, but it's nice to know in case
something c++ starts misbehaving right after updating gcc.


I have never had any problems with C++ applications.
What definitely doesn't work, is to compile a C++ application
with a newer compiler and try to run it on an old system, i.e. a system
where the newer libstdc++ is not installed.

Helmut.




Re: [gentoo-user] I/net server throttling

2012-06-22 Thread Philip Webb
120622 Mick wrote:
 On Friday 22 Jun 2012 05:41:14 Philip Webb wrote:
 In recent weeks, I've seen many instances of downloads of files
 coming in small segments, which seem to be the same for each server,
 but vary between different servers.  Some Gentoo mirrors suffer this way
 -- not all --  some general news sites, eg when delivering videos,
 which run for a few secs, then freeze, then resume etc.
 Once I observed a server doing this for several hours (a large file),
 then suddenly loosening up  delivering the rest of the file in one go.
 Yes, when I use the wireless network at work.
 It could be the ISP or it could be other users taking up bandwidth.
 Really early in the morning performance is generally higher
 than during work hours.  this could be due to contention
 on the local network or the ISP's pipe.
 Do you get such problems off peak hours?

I think you're describing a different phenomenon, traffic jams (smile).
That sometimes happens here  may persist for  1 - 2 weeks ,
but it feels just like driving on the highway when  1  lane is closed.
That probably is some piece of the Internet or ISP under repair or test.

What I'm refering to is getting downloaded files in slices,
eg using Wget, a piece of the file downloads for  22 sec , then stops;
Wget tries again  another  22 sec  piece comes down the pipe, then stops.
This can go on for hours with a big file
 doesn't seem related to the local time of day.
My guess is that the server has been programmed to stop after  22 sec
in an effort to share access among many clients,
but it is irritating  also suggests the server needs faster hardware.

Have others noticed this -- it seems to be a recent innovation --
 is it a known ploy of server managers ?

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/PyQt4-4.9.2 requires SIP v4.13.3 or later

2012-06-22 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes:

 I'm doing my KDE4 upgrades and ran into this:
[...]
 Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.13.3 or later
[...]

 I notice tho that portage seems to have failed to notice this was
 needed.  Should I file a bug report or is this just me? 

File a bug. There is a DEPEND line in the ebuild, but that states it
needs =dev-python/sip-4.13.1, not 4.13.3.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] I/net server throttling

2012-06-22 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 05:10 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 120622 Mick wrote:
  On Friday 22 Jun 2012 05:41:14 Philip Webb wrote:
  In recent weeks, I've seen many instances of downloads of files
  coming in small segments, which seem to be the same for each server,
  but vary between different servers.  Some Gentoo mirrors suffer this way
  -- not all --  some general news sites, eg when delivering videos,
  which run for a few secs, then freeze, then resume etc.
  Once I observed a server doing this for several hours (a large file),
  then suddenly loosening up  delivering the rest of the file in one go.
  Yes, when I use the wireless network at work.
  It could be the ISP or it could be other users taking up bandwidth.
  Really early in the morning performance is generally higher
  than during work hours.  this could be due to contention
  on the local network or the ISP's pipe.
  Do you get such problems off peak hours?
 
 I think you're describing a different phenomenon, traffic jams (smile).
 That sometimes happens here  may persist for  1 - 2 weeks ,
 but it feels just like driving on the highway when  1  lane is closed.
 That probably is some piece of the Internet or ISP under repair or test.
 
 What I'm refering to is getting downloaded files in slices,
 eg using Wget, a piece of the file downloads for  22 sec , then stops;
 Wget tries again  another  22 sec  piece comes down the pipe, then stops.
 This can go on for hours with a big file
  doesn't seem related to the local time of day.
 My guess is that the server has been programmed to stop after  22 sec
 in an effort to share access among many clients,
 but it is irritating  also suggests the server needs faster hardware.
 
 Have others noticed this -- it seems to be a recent innovation --
  is it a known ploy of server managers ?
 

Are you using traffic shaping like a police filter, or is there
shaping somewhere in the path? - most of the linux shaping methods work
on a burst principle that produces a given throughput by gating the
traffic for an average throughput.  I have seen the effect you mention
with block transfer protocols (ftp) and wget when trying to use its
built in bandwidth regulation which works similarly to when traffic
shaping is in effect.  There seems to be an interaction between the two
instances of regulating the traffic to create an effect like you have
seen.  This also affects other traffic trying to use the link at the
same time as the available bandwidth gets very choppy.

I have less experience with other than linux based shaping methods such
as Cisco QoS methods but have not seen the same effect there.

BillK






[gentoo-user] got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12

2012-06-22 Thread Александр

got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12 
http://pastebin.com/NBN9Xvk4

new system
profile hardened/linux/amd64
kernel build with genkernel all

any thoughts pls

ps. sorry, mb write this second time (have problem with shared mail server) 


Re: [gentoo-user] got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Scherer

On 22.06.2012 12:48, Александр wrote:


got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12
http://pastebin.com/NBN9Xvk4

new system
profile hardened/linux/amd64
kernel build with genkernel all

any thoughts pls

ps. sorry, mb write this second time (have problem with shared mail 
server)


1) post the bug according to the directions given in If you need 
support ...

or

2) have a look at the offending line in SUPDrvIDC.h:163:22:, maybe
you can fix it. then rebuild the digest (build 
virtualbox-modules-4.1.12.build digest)

and emerge again. you need to protect this ebuild, too, because otherwise
it will be overridden at the next emerge --sync
or

3) wait a couple of days and try again, the error might then be fixed

1) is preferable, developers need to know if something is wrong.

regards, michael




Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com 
wrote:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org  wrote:

I could get 2 of these for each server, each with a mirrored pair of CF (or
SD) cards (mirror mode is defined by a jumper or switch on the adapter),
then mirror those (in the BIOS), which would result in a total of FOUR CF
(or SD) redundant cards (a mirror of 2 mirrored pairs) for the hypervisor...
and I can do this for quite a bit less than even a SINGLE 146GB SAS drive...

Is there any reason NOT to do this?



If you have a small ESX cluster, there are numerous advantages to
having some local storage on each your ESX hosts in addition to your
primary SAN storage:


We actually will be using ONLY local storage... Dell R515's with 8 450GB 
SAS drives in RAID10 (with one hot spare assigned)...


A decent SAN wasn't in the budget (yet, but we may go  that route in a 
year or two)...



- Lastly, I never really have been a fan of ESXi as an upgrade from
ESX.seems that it was more driven by vmware making windows admins
feel more confident since they didn't have to learn linux for ESX
console.


This is a new install, so not an 'upgrade'...


But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards
for the hypervisor boot and also keeping a few mirrored 2TB SATA
drives on each host for local datastores (7200rpm SATA is much cheaper
than 15K rpm SAS).


I do plan on having a couple of large SATA drives in RAID0 (for speed) 
for temporary snapshots (which I then backup using rsnapshot or my VM 
backup s/w) and for if I ever need to add some drives to my RAID10 
(probably won't, the 1.7TB I'll have is 4 times what we have now which 
is only 70% utilized)...


I get the CF cards today (already have the adapters), so we'll see how 
this goes this weekend...




Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com 
wrote:

But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards
for the hypervisor boot


Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most 
stable - SD or CF...




Re: [gentoo-user] got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12

2012-06-22 Thread Matthias Hanft

Александр wrote:


got error while emerging virtualbox-modules-4.1.12


Look here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394219

-Matt




Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com
 wrote:

 But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards
 for the hypervisor boot


 Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most
 stable - SD or CF...

Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them
so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters.

If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more
professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily
available.

In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands.
Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either
CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds,
but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that.
Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of
most of the other brands which is important when using it on a
computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video).



Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-22 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-06-22 11:00 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org  wrote:

Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most
stable - SD or CF...



Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them
so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters.

If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more
professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily
available.

In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands.
Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either
CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds,
but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that.
Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of
most of the other brands which is important when using it on a
computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video).


Thanks Paul, that's all pretty much what I'd concluded as well from my 
research...


I went with the 4GB SanDisk Ultra though (30MB/s), since these will only 
be used to boot the VMWare hypervisor (which runs fully in RAM once it 
is booted)...


Now I'm looking forward to seeing them in action this weekend... :)



[gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
Hi All,

I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has open
without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2012-06-22 11:00 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org
  wrote:

 Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most
 stable - SD or CF...


 Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them
 so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters.

 If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more
 professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily
 available.

 In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands.
 Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either
 CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds,
 but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that.
 Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of
 most of the other brands which is important when using it on a
 computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video).


 Thanks Paul, that's all pretty much what I'd concluded as well from my
 research...

 I went with the 4GB SanDisk Ultra though (30MB/s), since these will only be
 used to boot the VMWare hypervisor (which runs fully in RAM once it is
 booted)...

 Now I'm looking forward to seeing them in action this weekend... :)

OK, I missed that piece. I presumed there would be writes to the hard disk.

Any reason you can't have these guys netboot?


-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia-drivers + kernel 3.4

2012-06-22 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 22/06/12 15:30, walt wrote:

On 06/21/2012 12:47 PM, walt wrote:

On 06/20/2012 07:46 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 20/06/12 17:04, walt wrote:

On 06/18/2012 02:29 AM, Philip Webb wrote:

120615 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

2012/6/15 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net

after installing Kernel 3.4 , Nvidia-drivers 295.49 wouldn't
compile.

I can see that 295.53 and 295.59 are available.  Use 295.59.


I've updated to the latest testing 302.17  it's working ok so far.


I just did the same update.  I thought at first everything was okay,
then I ran glxgears, which runs at 1/5 normal speed.  Going back to
295.59 fixed it.  Very puzzling, since there was nothing unusual in
Xorg.0.log.


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=176815


Would you mind translating that bulletin into Greek so I can
understand it? ;)


Aha.  I re-emerged nvidia-drivers-302.17 and the lightbulb lit up:

$glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.292 FPS

Sure enough, my monitor's vertical refresh rate is 60Hz.  I guess the
logic is that the video card needn't render more frames than the monitor
can display each second?


Yes.  You can set this stuff up in the nvidia-settings control panel. 
Unfortunately, the Gentoo nvidia-drivers ebuild isn't the best, and it 
doesn't install a start-up launch script for nvidia-settings (like 
Ubuntu and other distros do.)  So when you change settings, you need to 
manually run nvidia-settings to restore them again after every login.


I solved this problem by creating an executable file:

  /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/95-nvidia-settings

with the following contents:

#!/bin/sh
[ -x /opt/bin/nvidia-settings ] 
/opt/bin/nvidia-settings --load-config-only  /dev/null 21

This restores the settings automatically on every X11 login.  Ah well, 
welcome to Gentoo :-P





[gentoo-user] Re: Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread walt
On 06/22/2012 09:20 AM, Willie wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
 desktop manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The
 problem I am having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The
 only one that has open without crashing the entire computer that I
 know of is VLC.

Can you give us more details about the symptoms?  What steps do you
follow and what do you see, for example, when the machine finishes
booting up?  What do you do to log in, and what do you do to (try)
to open a window?






Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 09:20:24 schrieb Willie:
 Hi All,
 
 I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
 manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
 having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has open
 without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.

dmesg, Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors... for starters.
-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
Fist thing I do is start XDM, login with my normal users. I can't open
Session and Startup. Like I said before, I haven't been on it in XFCE for a
long time. When I do that the screen becomes blurry, no keyboard, mouse or
ssh access to the computer. I assume that the entire computer is frozen.
There is nothing in /var/log/messages but a jump in time from when it
crashed to when it started to boot again. Can't read dmesg, if I am not
mistaken that starts over when you restart the computer. Haven't tried to
read the Xorg.0.log or the .xsession-errors yet. I am going to try it again
now and see what it says about this.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 09:20:24 schrieb Willie:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
 open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 dmesg, Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors... for starters.
 --
 #163933




-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 11:07:55 schrieb Willie:
 Fist thing I do is start XDM, login with my normal users. I can't open
 Session and Startup. Like I said before, I haven't been on it in XFCE for a
 long time. When I do that the screen becomes blurry, no keyboard, mouse or
 ssh access to the computer. I assume that the entire computer is frozen.
 There is nothing in /var/log/messages but a jump in time from when it
 crashed to when it started to boot again. Can't read dmesg, if I am not
 mistaken that starts over when you restart the computer. Haven't tried to
 read the Xorg.0.log or the .xsession-errors yet. I am going to try it again
 now and see what it says about this.

protipp: in local.start:
dmesg  /dmesg.out

 
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
 
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 09:20:24 schrieb Willie:
   Hi All,
   
   I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
   manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
   having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
  
  open
  
   without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
   
   Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
  dmesg, Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors... for starters.
  --
  #163933
-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fist thing I do is start XDM, login with my normal users. I can't open
 Session and Startup. Like I said before, I haven't been on it in XFCE for a
 long time. When I do that the screen becomes blurry, no keyboard, mouse or
 ssh access to the computer. I assume that the entire computer is frozen.
 There is nothing in /var/log/messages but a jump in time from when it
 crashed to when it started to boot again. Can't read dmesg, if I am not
 mistaken that starts over when you restart the computer. Haven't tried to
 read the Xorg.0.log or the .xsession-errors yet. I am going to try it again
 now and see what it says about this.


 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 09:20:24 schrieb Willie:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
 open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 dmesg, Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors... for starters.
 --
 #163933




 --

 Willie Matthews
 matthews.wil...@gmail.com


The two files are empty after a reboot.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fist thing I do is start XDM, login with my normal users. I can't open
 Session and Startup. Like I said before, I haven't been on it in XFCE for a
 long time. When I do that the screen becomes blurry, no keyboard, mouse or
 ssh access to the computer. I assume that the entire computer is frozen.
 There is nothing in /var/log/messages but a jump in time from when it
 crashed to when it started to boot again. Can't read dmesg, if I am not
 mistaken that starts over when you restart the computer. Haven't tried to
 read the Xorg.0.log or the .xsession-errors yet. I am going to try it again
 now and see what it says about this.


 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 09:20:24 schrieb Willie:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
  open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 dmesg, Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors... for starters.

[snip]

 The two files are empty after a reboot.

Any Xorg.*.log file would help.

dmesg's prior output should find its way into /var/log/messages


In any case, try removing xdm from your default runlevel, and run
startx and your X session manually?

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
 manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
 having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has open
 without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.

Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
pain.

Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.

Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
any better errors/logs.

If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
stuff.

revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman 
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
 open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
 stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
 pain.

 Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
 difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.

 Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
 any better errors/logs.

 If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
 before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
 unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
 stuff.

 revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.


I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with a
couple of others.

I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has something
to do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)

SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the internet
and no one can access the internet either.

Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out
but I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as
it did freeze. This is from /var/log/messages

Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
0003 M 0100 Data 
Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
while in atomic or interrupt context

That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
  open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
 stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
 pain.

 Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
 difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.

 Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
 any better errors/logs.

 If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
 before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
 unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
 stuff.

 revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.


 I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with a
 couple of others.

 I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has something to
 do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)

 SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the internet
 and no one can access the internet either.

 Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out but
 I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as it did
 freeze. This is from /var/log/messages

 Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
 0003 M 0100 Data 
 Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context

 That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.

What do you have for VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf?


-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
  open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
 stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
 pain.

 Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
 difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.

 Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
 any better errors/logs.

 If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
 before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
 unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
 stuff.

 revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.


 I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with a
 couple of others.

 I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has something to
 do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)

 SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the internet
 and no one can access the internet either.

 Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out but
 I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as it did
 freeze. This is from /var/log/messages

 Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
 0003 M 0100 Data 
 Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU
 while in atomic or interrupt context

 That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.

Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
  paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a desktop
   manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I am
   having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that has
   open
   without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
  
   Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
  Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
  stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
  pain.
 
  Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
  difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.
 
  Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
  any better errors/logs.
 
  If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
  before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
  unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
  stuff.
 
  revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.
 
 
  I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with a
  couple of others.
 
  I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
 something to
  do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)
 
  SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
 internet
  and no one can access the internet either.
 
  Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out
 but
  I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as it
 did
  freeze. This is from /var/log/messages
 
  Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
  Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 CPU
  while in atomic or interrupt context
  Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
  0003 M 0100 Data 
  Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 CPU
  while in atomic or interrupt context
  Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 CPU
  while in atomic or interrupt context
  Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 CPU
  while in atomic or interrupt context
 
  That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.

 Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
 problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
 commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)


Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It did not
work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt xorg-drivers
and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working, still
might have to do some tweaking.
-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 14:51:04 schrieb Willie:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 
 
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
   
   paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
   
   wrote:
Hi All,

I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
desktop
manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I
am
having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that
has
open
without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
   
   Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
   stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
   pain.
   
   Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
   difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.
   
   Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
   any better errors/logs.
   
   If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
   before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
   unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
   stuff.
   
   revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.
   
   I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with
   a
   couple of others.
   
   I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
  
  something to
  
   do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)
   
   SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
  
  internet
  
   and no one can access the internet either.
   
   Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out
  
  but
  
   I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as it
  
  did
  
   freeze. This is from /var/log/messages
   
   Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
   Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
  
  CPU
  
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
   0003 M 0100 Data 
   Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
  
  CPU
  
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
  
  CPU
  
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
  
  CPU
  
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   
   That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.
  
  Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
  problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
  commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)
 
 Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It did not
 work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt xorg-drivers
 and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working, still
 might have to do some tweaking.

if you use nvidia binary, turn off all nvidia graphics related stuff in the 
kernel and to be sure nothing screws you over - unmerge nouveau.

If you use nouveau, try the binary driver.


There are reasons, Linus does not like nvidia very much.

-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 14:51:04 schrieb Willie:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 

 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
  
   paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
Hi All,
   
I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
desktop
manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem I
am
having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that
has
open
without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
   
Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
   Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading xorg
   stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
   pain.
  
   Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
   difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.
  
   Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you get
   any better errors/logs.
  
   If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic computer
   before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
   unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
   stuff.
  
   revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your system.
  
   I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along with
   a
   couple of others.
  
   I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
 
  something to
 
   do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)
  
   SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
 
  internet
 
   and no one can access the internet either.
  
   Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM out
 
  but
 
   I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon as it
 
  did
 
   freeze. This is from /var/log/messages
  
   Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
   Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 
  CPU
 
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002 SC
   0003 M 0100 Data 
   Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 
  CPU
 
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 
  CPU
 
   while in atomic or interrupt context
   Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the
 
  CPU
 
   while in atomic or interrupt context
  
   That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.
 
  Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
  problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
  commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)

 Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It did not
 work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt xorg-drivers
 and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working, still
 might have to do some tweaking.

 if you use nvidia binary, turn off all nvidia graphics related stuff in the
 kernel and to be sure nothing screws you over - unmerge nouveau.

 If you use nouveau, try the binary driver.


 There are reasons, Linus does not like nvidia very much.

And if you use the nvidia binary driver be sure to blacklist nouveau
module so it does not autoload in case the module is still around from
a previous build.



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann 
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 14:51:04 schrieb Willie:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 
 
  paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
   
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
 
   
wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
 desktop
 manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem
 I
 am
 having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one that
 has
 open
 without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.
   
Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading
 xorg
stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
pain.
   
Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes a
difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.
   
Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you
 get
any better errors/logs.
   
If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic
 computer
before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
stuff.
   
revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your
 system.
   
I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along
 with
a
couple of others.
   
I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
  
   something to
  
do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)
   
SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
  
   internet
  
and no one can access the internet either.
   
Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM
 out
  
   but
  
I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon
 as it
  
   did
  
freeze. This is from /var/log/messages
   
Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
 the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002
 SC
0003 M 0100 Data 
Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
 the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
 the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
 the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
   
That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.
  
   Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
   problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
   commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)
 
  Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It did
 not
  work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt
 xorg-drivers
  and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working, still
  might have to do some tweaking.

 if you use nvidia binary, turn off all nvidia graphics related stuff in the
 kernel and to be sure nothing screws you over - unmerge nouveau.

 If you use nouveau, try the binary driver.


 There are reasons, Linus does not like nvidia very much.

 --
 #163933


It was working with this same kernel. I can't figure out for the life of me
why it is not working now. I have a feeling after 6 months of upgrades
something broke in that time. I am fine with the nouveau driver. I only
really want a GUI to play movies.

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Alecks Gates
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 14:51:04 schrieb Willie:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 
 
  paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman
   
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie
matthews.wil...@gmail.com
   
wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
 desktop
 manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The problem
 I
 am
 having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one
 that
 has
 open
 without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.
   
Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading
xorg
stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
pain.
   
Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that makes
a
difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.
   
Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you
get
any better errors/logs.
   
If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic
computer
before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs and
stuff.
   
revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your
system.
   
I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along
with
a
couple of others.
   
I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
  
   something to
  
do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)
   
SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
  
   internet
  
and no one can access the internet either.
   
Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave XDM
out
  
   but
  
I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon
as it
  
   did
  
freeze. This is from /var/log/messages
   
Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C 0002
SC
0003 M 0100 Data 
Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield
the
  
   CPU
  
while in atomic or interrupt context
   
That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.
  
   Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
   problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your kernel
   commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)
 
  Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It did
  not
  work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt
  xorg-drivers
  and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working, still
  might have to do some tweaking.

 if you use nvidia binary, turn off all nvidia graphics related stuff in
 the
 kernel and to be sure nothing screws you over - unmerge nouveau.

 If you use nouveau, try the binary driver.


 There are reasons, Linus does not like nvidia very much.

 --
 #163933


 It was working with this same kernel. I can't figure out for the life of me
 why it is not working now. I have a feeling after 6 months of upgrades
 something broke in that time. I am fine with the nouveau driver. I only
 really want a GUI to play movies.

 --

 Willie Matthews
 matthews.wil...@gmail.com

A bit off topic but you don't really need a full GUI for movies.  Try
just X + mplayer, or XBMC.  Dunno if those alone would work for you
(and you probably want to fix your problems anyway).  Depending on
your CPU and video card, the proprietary drivers may help you if you
can use VDPAU for video acceleration.



Re: [gentoo-user] Need Help!

2012-06-22 Thread Willie
This is for my kid. He likes to watch movies. He knows how to use the
shortcut on the desktop. I really don't need to reinvent the wheel on this
one. It all works just like he learned it.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
  volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2012, 14:51:04 schrieb Willie:
   On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Paul Hartman 
  
   paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Willie matthews.wil...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Paul Hartman

 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Willie
 matthews.wil...@gmail.com

 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been running a gentoo box for quite some time without a
  desktop
  manager. Did a lot of upgrading in between time also. The
 problem
  I
  am
  having is when I login I can't open any Windows. The only one
  that
  has
  open
  without crashing the entire computer that I know of is VLC.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated.

 Be sure to emerge --oneshot @x11-module-rebuild after upgrading
 xorg
 stuff. Drivers might be out of sync and maybe that's causing your
 pain.

 Try to delete/rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if that
 makes
 a
 difference. Modern Xorg can start a basic environment without it.

 Try to run startx as a user instead of using xdm and see if you
 get
 any better errors/logs.

 If you have another computer/device SSH into your problematic
 computer
 before starting X so you can see if it's still alive, just
 unresponsive at the local terminal. Maybe then you can see logs
 and
 stuff.

 revdep-rebuild just to ensure everything is consistent on your
 system.

 I rebuild all of my x11-drivers it rebuild the nvidia driver along
 with
 a
 couple of others.

 I used startx and got the errors below. I have a feeling it has
   
something to
   
 do with my nVidia card (Geforce 8400GS)

 SSH is not active anymore. It is also the computer that shares the
   
internet
   
 and no one can access the internet either.

 Okay now I think we are getting somewhere. Didn't think to leave
 XDM
 out
   
but
   
 I did do it. It still froze but I got some useful information soon
 as it
   
did
   
 freeze. This is from /var/log/messages

 Jun 22 11:52:52 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 6, PE0001
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to
 yield
 the
   
CPU
   
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:52:54 beast kernel: NVRM: Xid (:02:00): 3, C
 0002
 SC
 0003 M 0100 Data 
 Jun 22 11:53:03 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to
 yield
 the
   
CPU
   
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:05 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to
 yield
 the
   
CPU
   
 while in atomic or interrupt context
 Jun 22 11:53:08 beast kernel: NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to
 yield
 the
   
CPU
   
 while in atomic or interrupt context

 That was printed as soon as XFCE froze.
   
Okay, now I googled those errors and it seems to be a fairly common
problem. The workaround I saw is to add nolapic_timer to your
 kernel
commandline. Try that, reboot and cross your fingers. ;)
  
   Yeah I see that too. Tried to add that to my grub.conf/menu.lst. It
 did
   not
   work for me. I rebuild my kernel for nouveau drivers. Rebuilt
   xorg-drivers
   and mesa, installed xf86-video-nouveau. So far it is not working,
 still
   might have to do some tweaking.
 
  if you use nvidia binary, turn off all nvidia graphics related stuff in
  the
  kernel and to be sure nothing screws you over - unmerge nouveau.
 
  If you use nouveau, try the binary driver.
 
 
  There are reasons, Linus does not like nvidia very much.
 
  --
  #163933
 
 
  It was working with this same kernel. I can't figure out for the life of
 me
  why it is not working now. I have a feeling after 6 months of upgrades
  something broke in that time. I am fine with the nouveau driver. I only
  really want a GUI to play movies.
 
  --
 
  Willie Matthews
  matthews.wil...@gmail.com

 A bit off topic but you don't really need a full GUI for movies.  Try
 just X + mplayer, or XBMC.  Dunno if those alone would work for you
 (and you probably want to fix your problems anyway).  Depending on
 your CPU and video card, the proprietary drivers may help you if you
 can use VDPAU for video acceleration.




-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com


Re: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dmitry Goncharov
 dgoncha...@users.sf.net wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 10:52:12PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow. Just wow. This is incredible.

 This is repeatable for me.

 snip
  * The problem occurred while executing the ebuild file named
  * 'glibc-2.14.1-r3.ebuild' located in the '/var/db/pkg/sys-

 snip
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf
 --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param
 l2-cache-size=4096 -mtune=core2 -ggdb3
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

 Can you upgrage to glibc-2.15?

 Sure. It's going to be another full reinstall.

Forgot to try this. Will do tomorrow.


 Can you tweak you gcc flags to something more conventional and see if the
 problem persists?

 Those CFLAGS should be equivalent to:
 CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -ggdb3 --march=native.

 But I'll try making it just -O2 -pipe --march=native.

Just an update: Tried CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe --march=native -ggdb3. Same results.


 If you are interested in submitting a patch to the upstream then you can 
 build
 the glibc test suite with your gcc flags and check if the tests pass.

I do still have a working gentoo laptop I could try this on...but it
has an i3 proc, as opposed to the core 2 xeon or the phenom 9650. Have
a link to instructions?

-- 
:wq