Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Regular v Ordinary
* walt [140430 20:43]: > On 04/30/2014 01:47 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > It just annoys me when I'm offered a regular coffee, > > when I would have said standard, or medium (size). It's happened > > particularly > > since our high streets were flooded with Starbucks and the like. > > If someone offered me a "regular" coffee I'd ask for a definition of "regular" > because I wouldn't have a clue what's being offered. > > My impression is that many Merkin words entered the British argot during WWII, > when, indeed, we referred to petrol(gasoline) as "regular" or "leaded", a good > example of our misuse of "regular", and one I'd forgot(ten) about. > > You and Neil both mentioned "regular guy", which I remember hearing most > recently > in a movie about WWII, and not since. > > Our tasteless Merkin TV commercials used the word "regular" for decades to > describe > our ideal bowel habits, so I share your immediate association with that word. > But > I doubt anyone less than thirty years old would remember that era. (Please > let me > know if I'm wrong about that!) You might want to check the definition for "merkin"...
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Regular v Ordinary
On 04/30/2014 01:47 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > It just annoys me when I'm offered a regular coffee, > when I would have said standard, or medium (size). It's happened particularly > since our high streets were flooded with Starbucks and the like. If someone offered me a "regular" coffee I'd ask for a definition of "regular" because I wouldn't have a clue what's being offered. My impression is that many Merkin words entered the British argot during WWII, when, indeed, we referred to petrol(gasoline) as "regular" or "leaded", a good example of our misuse of "regular", and one I'd forgot(ten) about. You and Neil both mentioned "regular guy", which I remember hearing most recently in a movie about WWII, and not since. Our tasteless Merkin TV commercials used the word "regular" for decades to describe our ideal bowel habits, so I share your immediate association with that word. But I doubt anyone less than thirty years old would remember that era. (Please let me know if I'm wrong about that!)
[gentoo-user] Re: fully automount usb stick
Kfir Lavi gmail.com> writes: > autofs require me to supply UUID of the partition, but I need it fully > automatic, without user intervention.I need to implement a generic > mounting of usb drive. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/AutoFS https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Storage_Devices > Is there a quick way or package that can do that? sys-fs/udisks ??? hth, James
[gentoo-user] fully automount usb stick
Hi, autofs require me to supply UUID of the partition, but I need it fully automatic, without user intervention. I need to implement a generic mounting of usb drive. Maybe putting icon on xfce4 desktop. Is there a quick way or package that can do that? Regards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] problem: frequently auto suspend
For the "suspend" after a wakeup, I've a similar problem on my EEEPC 1000HE, I didn't investigate a lot, but on my case I strongly suspect that it is caused by a two process/script that try to manage the same event. It does not happen when I press the Sleep button (Fn+F1 if I recall correctly) but happen everytime when closing the lid. I remember to had lots of problem with ACPI configuration, and some key are still not working as expected, anyway, I've may in my case mess with some ACPI script. Maybe you could look at this first? Manoel Le 2014-04-30 15:13, simsilver Lee a écrit : > Forget to mention, I have tried kernel 3.14, 3.14.1, 3.13.7, and none works > well on this. > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:11 PM, simsilver Lee > wrote: > >> Hello everyone, I have met a problem recently after once update. My laptop >> suspends automatically after booting up, and suspends on and on after >> wakeup. I have checked up the log and there is no obvious errors. It works >> well on Win7 and Ubuntu Live, and on Gentoo the CPU is about 60 ℃. It also >> works well in single mode, but suspends quickly after I start NetworkManager >> service. And I found that it echo "^@" before the first-time suspend in the >> console. >> >> I have tried some solutions such as pass "pcie_aspm=force" to kernel, >> disable gdm service, none works. Masking suspend.target and >> systemd-suspend.service helps, but I want a better solution. >> >> Could someone help me? And what info do I need to attach? >> >> Simsilver
Re: [gentoo-user] problem: frequently auto suspend
Forget to mention, I have tried kernel 3.14, 3.14.1, 3.13.7, and none works well on this. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:11 PM, simsilver Lee wrote: > Hello everyone, I have met a problem recently after once update. My laptop > suspends automatically after booting up, and suspends on and on after > wakeup. I have checked up the log and there is no obvious errors. It works > well on Win7 and Ubuntu Live, and on Gentoo the CPU is about 60 ℃. It > also works well in single mode, but suspends quickly after I start > NetworkManager service. And I found that it echo "^@" before the first-time > suspend in the console. > > I have tried some solutions such as pass "pcie_aspm= > > *force" to kernel, disable gdm service, none works. Masking suspend.target > and systemd-suspend.service helps, but I want a better solution. * > > > *Could someone help me? And what info do I need to attach?* > > *Simsilver* >
[gentoo-user] problem: frequently auto suspend
Hello everyone, I have met a problem recently after once update. My laptop suspends automatically after booting up, and suspends on and on after wakeup. I have checked up the log and there is no obvious errors. It works well on Win7 and Ubuntu Live, and on Gentoo the CPU is about 60 ℃. It also works well in single mode, but suspends quickly after I start NetworkManager service. And I found that it echo "^@" before the first-time suspend in the console. I have tried some solutions such as pass "pcie_aspm= *force" to kernel, disable gdm service, none works. Masking suspend.target and systemd-suspend.service helps, but I want a better solution.* *Could someone help me? And what info do I need to attach?* *Simsilver*
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Regular v Ordinary
Le 2014-04-30 12:47, Peter Humphrey a écrit : On Wednesday 30 Apr 2014 10:21:11 godzil wrote: I suspect that your habits for "regular" or "ordinary" came from French, where the first translation of regular is "régulier", "habituel" which mean that it is something is a habits. And "ordinary" will be translate to "ordinaire" that have the means of "common", "standard". I know that some difference from UK and US English come from the nearby European country (mostly France) (i.e: colour vs color, behaviour vs behavior, etc.) Yes, true, except that "habits" is not the right word: "usage" would be better, which in this context in English means "custom". Thanks Countries being adjacent is not the explanation. I haven't seen an authority on this, but I believe that a good half of English words come from French (as a result of the most recent invasion of these islands in 1066), most of the rest coming from Latin and Greek. (That's now largely forgotten in USA, where efforts are now directed at absorbing German, Italian and Spanish.) There's a smattering of words from India and other parts of the Empire as well. Hardly any from Italian or Spanish, which accounts for a lot of differences between American and English. Yes that true, lots of English words came from old French, and funnily some word that were "lost" goes back into French :) But I don't agree, on the origin of "Old English" it is more a germano-celtic language than a latino-greek one. French clearly come from Latin and Old Greek, like Spanish or Italian. On the contrary, the German language have nearly no roots in Latin and Greek. The spelling differences you mention are I think a result of attempts to "simplify" the language by your founding fathers. Wikipedia have a nice article on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences (I tried to read it, but now my head is hurting!) Similarly, today, sentence structure is changing, with a wholesale ditching of previously useful tenses and, for instance, an insistence on putting adverbs before their verbs. Are those German influences? And why do so many insist on a single word never being both a noun and a verb (use, usage)? What do you do with "compact", which can be noun, verb or adjective? I could go on, but I'd better not :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Regular v Ordinary
On Wednesday 30 Apr 2014 10:21:11 godzil wrote: > I suspect that your habits for "regular" or "ordinary" came from French, > where the first translation of regular is "régulier", "habituel" which > mean that it is something is a habits. > > And "ordinary" will be translate to "ordinaire" that have the means of > "common", "standard". > > I know that some difference from UK and US English come from the nearby > European country (monstly France) (i.e: colour vs color, behaviour vs > behavior, etc.) Yes, true, except that "habits" is not the right word: "usage" would be better, which in this context in English means "custom". Countries being adjacent is not the explanation. I haven't seen an authority on this, but I believe that a good half of English words come from French (as a result of the most recent invasion of these islands in 1066), most of the rest coming from Latin and Greek. (That's now largely forgotten in USA, where efforts are now directed at absorbing German, Italian and Spanish.) There's a smattering of words from India and other parts of the Empire as well. Hardly any from Italian or Spanish, which accounts for a lot of differences between American and English. The spelling differences you mention are I think a result of attempts to "simplify" the language by your founding fathers. Similarly, today, sentence structure is changing, with a wholesale ditching of previously useful tenses and, for instance, an insistence on putting adverbs before their verbs. Are those German influences? And why do so many insist on a single word never being both a noun and a verb (use, usage)? What do you do with "compact", which can be noun, verb or adjective? I could go on, but I'd better not :-) -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Regular v Ordinary
Le 2014-04-30 09:47, Peter Humphrey a écrit : On Tuesday 29 Apr 2014 16:05:04 walt wrote: On 04/29/2014 05:49 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: I don't suppose it's misuse, just different use, which is fine when separated by a few thousand miles :-) . It just annoys me when I'm offered a regular coffee, when I would have said standard, or medium (size). It's happened particularly since our high streets were flooded with Starbucks and the like. To me, "regular" is closely associated to "regularity", as one might think of in personal habits (sorry!). Or, "regular as clockwork" is a common phrase and gets my meaning across. I suspect that your habits for "regular" or "ordinary" came from French, where the first translation of regular is "régulier", "habituel" which mean that it is something is a habits. And "ordinary" will be translate to "ordinaire" that have the means of "common", "standard". I know that some difference from UK and US English come from the nearby European country (monstly France) (i.e: colour vs color, behaviour vs behavior, etc.)
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Regular v Ordinary
On Tuesday 29 Apr 2014 16:05:04 walt wrote: > On 04/29/2014 05:49 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Regular readers* will know... > > > > * Off-topic note for American readers: as far as I'm concerned, "regular" > > does not mean "ordinary". That neologism is even polluting our high > > streets > > over here. > > I've used both of those words all my life but never looked them up in a > dictionary. > > Until today, of course: > > A thing is ordinary when it is apt to come round in the regular common order > or succession of events. > [1913 Webster] Seems it goes back a lot further than I realised. > Can you give us an example of how we misuse the word "regular"? (a word I > don't ordinarily use ;) I don't suppose it's misuse, just different use, which is fine when separated by a few thousand miles :-) . It just annoys me when I'm offered a regular coffee, when I would have said standard, or medium (size). It's happened particularly since our high streets were flooded with Starbucks and the like. To me, "regular" is closely associated to "regularity", as one might think of in personal habits (sorry!). Or, "regular as clockwork" is a common phrase and gets my meaning across. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: virtual problem : how can I unmerge Nano ?
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:05:04 -0700, walt wrote: > Can you give us an example of how we misuse the word "regular"? (a word > I don't ordinarily use ;) "He's just a regular guy". Every time I hear that I have to remind myself that this is not referring to his bowel movements... -- Neil Bothwick Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
