[gentoo-user] Did Gnome 3.12 Just Drop?
Hi all. I had installed Gnome 3.10 a few days ago, and now things have been migrating towards 3.12 Has Gnome 3.12 just launched for the x86 platforms, or is there something amiss with Portage that I should check? I get this weird update process: it gives me a version, such as 4.0, but the next day bumps me up to 4.1, which is weird, since logic would say that 4.1 is the newest, you'd want it over 4.0. Or is it the SLOTS technology? I've not quite gotten that concept yet.
Re: [gentoo-user] Did Gnome 3.12 Just Drop?
On 01/06/2014 11:48, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Hi all. I had installed Gnome 3.10 a few days ago, and now things have been migrating towards 3.12 Has Gnome 3.12 just launched for the x86 platforms, or is there something amiss with Portage that I should check? I get this weird update process: it gives me a version, such as 4.0, but the next day bumps me up to 4.1, which is weird, since logic would say that 4.1 is the newest, you'd want it over 4.0. Or is it the SLOTS technology? I've not quite gotten that concept yet. Let's back up a bit and first cover the technique of asking smart questions, as what you typed can't really be answered. You need to supply specifics when asking questions. Vague general questions indicate you are too lazy to think, or you don;t really know what you are doing, and both usually give no answers. Which packages exactly are updating, and why do you think this is noteworthy?For big meta projects like gnome it is quite normal for the low level packages (like libs) to be updated first, then more higher level apps and so on till everything is in the tree. This gives the devs time to get bug reports if those ebuilds still need work. Nothing unusual in this at all. Some packages like KDE don't use this method, they drop everything for the next version in the tree in one commit. Both approaches are valid, neither are incorrect and both are perfectly normal. Your second question also doesn't make sense. You had foo-4.0 and now you get foo-4.1. What's the problem? Nothing crazy is going on, you got an update. If you want a better answer, ask a better question and specify exactly which packages you don't understand. Usually, typing up the mail already shows you what is going on. Here's what probably happened: You got 4.0 because that is what was in the tree. With the next sync you got 4.1 because it has been committed in the interim. What's noteworthy about that? Gentoo moves *very* fast with many commits to the tree in a day. It's not red hat and it's not Windows with patch Tuesday. And it has nothing to do with SLOTs - read the handbook to find out what those are, it's in the install doc. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Did Gnome 3.12 Just Drop?
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 05:48:56 -0400 Hunter Jozwiak hunter.t@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I had installed Gnome 3.10 a few days ago, and now things have been migrating towards 3.12 Has Gnome 3.12 just launched for the x86 platforms, or is there something amiss with Portage that I should check? I get this weird update process: it gives me a version, such as 4.0, but the next day bumps me up to 4.1, which is weird, since logic would say that 4.1 is the newest, you'd want it over 4.0. Or is it the SLOTS technology? I've not quite gotten that concept yet. /usr/portage/profiles/ChangeLog: 01 Jun 2014; Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org package.mask: Unmask Gnome 3.12 Yes, it did; now available in testing arches (eg. ~x86), given it has just been added it'll take a while before this is stable (eg. x86). -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?
Wow, I've been mostly offline for a few days, and this morning when playing catch up on the news, learned that Truecrypt, one of my all time favorite apps, is no more. Some links of interest: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/05/truecrypt_wtf.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7812133 http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/505372-truecrypt-is-dead?page=1
[gentoo-user] Please help me get my printer working again.
Hi, Gentoo. My printer used to work. According to CUPS, its last succesful print was in February. (Incidentally, I used to have an up-to-date system, but that went when I screwed it up after Gentoo made Gnome-3 stable and I tried to switch out of Gnome. My last emerge --sync was around the same time.) When I tried to print a *.pdf from evince, I got an error message saying /path/to/foomatic-rip didn't exist. (Sorry, I can't reproduce the exact error message any more). It would seem there has been a change from foomatic filters to cups-filters (which I have installed) at some stage. But I don't recall this change, and I can't find any docs about how to configure printing to use cups-filters. When I go through the Modify printer sequence in http://localhost:631, and try to change the filter, I just get presented with a long list of foomatic filters. I've been at this stage for some while now, dreading the impending hours and hours of web searching. Any tips people can give me to cut this miserable process short will be most warmly received. By the way, what has happened to the helpful documentation which used to be at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en? Most of it seems to have disappeared. There used to be a helpful doc on setting up a printer, but that has gone. (I'm lucky enough to be able to read the German translations, which (largely, at least) still exist, but they're somewhat out of date). -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] Please help me get my printer working again.
Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. My printer used to work. According to CUPS, its last succesful print was in February. (Incidentally, I used to have an up-to-date system, but that went when I screwed it up after Gentoo made Gnome-3 stable and I tried to switch out of Gnome. My last emerge --sync was around the same time.) When I tried to print a *.pdf from evince, I got an error message saying /path/to/foomatic-rip didn't exist. (Sorry, I can't reproduce the exact error message any more). It would seem there has been a change from foomatic filters to cups-filters (which I have installed) at some stage. But I don't recall this change, and I can't find any docs about how to configure printing to use cups-filters. When I go through the Modify printer sequence in http://localhost:631, and try to change the filter, I just get presented with a long list of foomatic filters. I've been at this stage for some while now, dreading the impending hours and hours of web searching. Any tips people can give me to cut this miserable process short will be most warmly received. By the way, what has happened to the helpful documentation which used to be at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en? Most of it seems to have disappeared. There used to be a helpful doc on setting up a printer, but that has gone. (I'm lucky enough to be able to read the German translations, which (largely, at least) still exist, but they're somewhat out of date). When I run into this issue, I delete the printer and add it back. For some reason, that has always fixed my issues. It seems that when CUPS gets upgraded, it needs the printers reconfigured from scratch. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?
Am 01.06.2014 14:31, schrieb Tanstaafl: Wow, I've been mostly offline for a few days, and this morning when playing catch up on the news, learned that Truecrypt, one of my all time favorite apps, is no more. Some links of interest: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/05/truecrypt_wtf.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7812133 http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/505372-truecrypt-is-dead?page=1 well, if true: good riddance. But I suspect some hacker-y or power struggle.
Re: [gentoo-user] Please help me get my printer working again.
Hi, Dale. On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:57:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Gentoo. My printer used to work. According to CUPS, its last succesful print was in February. (Incidentally, I used to have an up-to-date system, but that went when I screwed it up after Gentoo made Gnome-3 stable and I tried to switch out of Gnome. My last emerge --sync was around the same time.) When I tried to print a *.pdf from evince, I got an error message saying /path/to/foomatic-rip didn't exist. (Sorry, I can't reproduce the exact error message any more). It would seem there has been a change from foomatic filters to cups-filters (which I have installed) at some stage. But I don't recall this change, and I can't find any docs about how to configure printing to use cups-filters. When I go through the Modify printer sequence in http://localhost:631, and try to change the filter, I just get presented with a long list of foomatic filters. I've been at this stage for some while now, dreading the impending hours and hours of web searching. Any tips people can give me to cut this miserable process short will be most warmly received. By the way, what has happened to the helpful documentation which used to be at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en? Most of it seems to have disappeared. There used to be a helpful doc on setting up a printer, but that has gone. (I'm lucky enough to be able to read the German translations, which (largely, at least) still exist, but they're somewhat out of date). When I run into this issue, I delete the printer and add it back. For some reason, that has always fixed my issues. It seems that when CUPS gets upgraded, it needs the printers reconfigured from scratch. Hope that helps. Well it did, and it didn't. I deleted then added the printer as you suggested. Nothing. But somehow, that brought me to consider the error message I reported above. So I emerged foomatic-filters (which, somehow, I'd removed in February), and now printing works, at least for files.pdf. So, thanks for the email, it brought me back to sanity. Dale :-) :-) -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bluez 5 not connecting
On Friday 30 May 2014 06:34:13 Mick wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2014 23:32:55 William Kenworthy wrote: I am not using systemd either - there is no bluetoothctl service (its an application and written with no remote control capabilities - why?: no idea - in my reading I came across a message saying that its designed for use with systemd but I thought it would still need the remote option unless bluetoothctl like functions are natively included in systemd) You will probably have to load the modules manually (/etc/conf.d/modules) - mine do load automatically though Right, so did mine until recently. I'm guessing that it's something to do with udev, or with changes in the kernel that affect my Broadcom bluetooth chip. moriah ~ # lsmod|grep bt btusb 14099 0 bluetooth 191573 24 bnep,btusb,rfcomm usbcore 132770 10 btusb,usblp,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,usbserial,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,ftdi_ si o,cdc_acm moriah ~ # Sounds like you have more than one problem and you need to get the modules loaded and working first, then you can run bluetoothctl manually. I already tried that. The modules load, hciconfig works to bring up hci0, but bluetoothctl complains that there is no available bluetooth controller. :-/ I tried bluetooth with another laptop - also broadcom bluetooth but a different chip. Well, what do you know. I had to manually modprobe bnep and rfcomm, but /etc/init.d/bluetooth started without complaining that it needs the rfcomm service and bluetoothctl worked fine showing the bt controller SSID and other devices in the vicinity. So the problem seems to be with the particular broadcom BCM2046 Bluetooth device that I have on my laptop. :-( I've posted in the forums in case someone there has any ideas. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] dependency problem - how to decipher this one
Am 15.05.2014 00:39, schrieb Walter Dnes: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 07:29:11PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote Hi, trying to emerge x11-libs/gtk+:2 (2.24.23-r1) together with dev-libs/atk (2.12.0-r1) I get the following messages emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-libs/atk-1.29.2[introspection?,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?, abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?]. (dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.23-r1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+:2 [argument]) How can this be deciphered? How can I trace / debug the problem. Plan A) try adding the line... dev-libs/atk -introspection ...to /etc/portage/package.use Plan B) if some other package requires atk built with introspection, then make sure that atk is not built with any of abi_x86_32, or abi_x86_64, abi_x86_x32, or abi_mips_n32, or abi_mips_n64, or abi_mips_o32. I.e. if you're running on AMD or Intel, add the line... dev-libs/atk -abi_x86_32 -abi_x86_64 -abi_x86_x32 ...to /etc/portage/package.use so basically building nothing? Doesn't sound right.
Re: [gentoo-user] dependency problem - how to decipher this one
Am 14.05.2014 19:29, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, trying to emerge x11-libs/gtk+:2 (2.24.23-r1) together with dev-libs/atk (2.12.0-r1) I get the following messages emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-libs/atk-1.29.2[introspection?,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?, abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?]. (dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.23-r1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+:2 [argument]) How can this be deciphered? How can I trace / debug the problem. read atk ebuild, then read gtk ebuild. Should be easy to solve afterwards. But don't follow Walter's -abi_* adivse.
[gentoo-user] Re: Please help me get my printer working again.
Alan Mackenzie acm at muc.de writes: So, thanks for the email, it brought me back to sanity. A few things to remember. Always check that cupsd is running. (# rc-status). You may need to stop and start the cupsd. Go to the /etc/cups dir and make a second copy of the *.conf files and any others that you use. I give mine a .date actual date string, so as to make recovery trivial in the future. Also it's easy to 'scp' those files around to machines if/when necessary. The cups gui interface just modifies those files. Last, become familar with http://localhost:631/ to use the everychanging cups interface to manage your networked and printing resources. If you have HP printers, install this: net-print/hplip One last nuance with cups. Sometimes cupsd is running but the cups software has stop printing. Go to the admin section of cups (http://localhost:631/) and just start the printer again; it's a bug_anomoly I have seen too many times. Really, it's not that difficult with these tidbits to manage and recover functional printing. Using dbus as a flag setting never hurts either and check your cups flag settings. Use the ethernet port in lieu of the usb port, imho, if you have both on any given printer.. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?
john jdm at jdm.myzen.co.uk writes: lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages. The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to change a use flag of lxqt-panel from quicklauch to -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and desktop is good. Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde? If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion easy? Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work? Did you use the lxqt-meta package? got a list of files/configs you have to customize? useful docs or a wiki? I'm still fairly new to the whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint! Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first? your thoughts and suggestions are welcome. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to Qt 5?
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: john jdm at jdm.myzen.co.uk writes: lxqt is up and running in Gentoo. It's listed in packages. The only problem I had was emerging lxqt-panel but just had to change a use flag of lxqt-panel from quicklauch to -quicklaunch and it emerged. No problems with anything else and desktop is good. Wow! Did you do a fresh install or convert from lxde? If yuo converted, do you like it better? Was the conversion easy? Does your usb device auto-discovery/mount thingie work? Did you use the lxqt-meta package? got a list of files/configs you have to customize? useful docs or a wiki? I'm still fairly new to the whole lx** thing... But I love the light resource footprint! Maybe I should put it on a non-essential machine first? your thoughts and suggestions are welcome. When I tried to emerge lx-qt-neta, it only wanted to emerge qt4 packages, even though I said use=qt5, how can I get it to emerge qt5 as well, or are they mutually exclusive? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
