Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
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[gentoo-user] KDE Activities
Morning list, Is there a way to build KDE without its concept of Activities? I find it an unnecessary complication, which I never use. Any time I found myself wrestling with it by accident it's caused little other than anger and frustration. No doubt this is just as silly an idea as building KMail without its database, which also has caused considerable grief. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng is writing binary
On Friday 26 Dec 2014 23:33:33 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, For some time now I've had syslog-ng writing /var/log/messages in a binary format: # file /var/log/messages /var/log/messages: data # grep syslog-ng /var/log/messages Binary file /var/log/messages matches Yet: # head /var/log/messages Dec 21 03:10:02 wstn run-crons[29014]: (root) CMD (/etc/cron.daily/man-db) [...] Can I use the following method to restore the original text format of /var/log/messages? 1.Boot rescue system and mount main system 2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log 3.# mv messages messages.bin 4.# strings messages.bin messages 5.# rm messages.bin 6.Reboot. I tried steps 1 - 4 and got a text file with very long lines, but I chickened out before rebooting. It would be nice to find a config setting that's changed, but the change log is silent and the admin guide gives me a headache :-( I don't know if this is a matter of changing some setting a in a config file - I haven't found any yet. It seems that upon boot up some binary data is written in the otherwise plain text logs: Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ [snip ...] I don't know if this is caused by some systemd infection of our systems! LOL! If you use 'less -L /var/log/messages' or cat, then you will be able to view the logs in text format. If you need to grep stuff then you can use: grep --binary-files=text -i firewall /var/log/messages [snip ...] Dec 27 09:24:03 dell_xps firewall: ** All firewall rules applied ** Dec 27 09:24:03 dell_xps firewall: ** All firewall rules applied ** Be careful that using grep like this might cause your terminal to execute some of the binary output as a command (check the man page). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Activities
On Saturday 27 Dec 2014 09:43:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: Morning list, Is there a way to build KDE without its concept of Activities? I find it an unnecessary complication, which I never use. Any time I found myself wrestling with it by accident it's caused little other than anger and frustration. No doubt this is just as silly an idea as building KMail without its database, which also has caused considerable grief. Peter, I can't advise on the Activities question, but can you please tell me how you managed to build Kmail without its database? Is it fully functional? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng is writing binary
On 12/27/2014 10:52:04 AM, Mick wrote: On Friday 26 Dec 2014 23:33:33 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, For some time now I've had syslog-ng writing /var/log/messages in a binary format: # file /var/log/messages /var/log/messages: data # grep syslog-ng /var/log/messages Binary file /var/log/messages matches Yet: # head /var/log/messages Dec 21 03:10:02 wstn run-crons[29014]: (root) CMD (/etc/cron.daily/man-db) [...] Can I use the following method to restore the original text format of /var/log/messages? 1. Boot rescue system and mount main system 2. # cd /mnt/main/var/log 3. # mv messages messages.bin 4. # strings messages.bin messages 5. # rm messages.bin 6. Reboot. I tried steps 1 - 4 and got a text file with very long lines, but I chickened out before rebooting. It would be nice to find a config setting that's changed, but the change log is silent and the admin guide gives me a headache :-( I don't know if this is a matter of changing some setting a in a config file - I haven't found any yet. It seems that upon boot up some binary data is written in the otherwise plain text logs: Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 dell_xps syslog-ng[1526]: syslog-ng starting up; version='3.4.8' Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset Dec 22 10:15:21 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ [snip ...] I don't know if this is caused by some systemd infection of our systems! LOL! If you use 'less -L /var/log/messages' or cat, then you will be able to view the logs in text format. If you need to grep stuff then you can use: grep --binary-files=text -i firewall /var/log/messages [snip ...] Dec 27 09:24:03 dell_xps firewall: ** All firewall rules applied ** Dec 27 09:24:03 dell_xps firewall: ** All firewall rules applied ** Be careful that using grep like this might cause your terminal to execute some of the binary output as a command (check the man page). -- Regards, Mick I think this was a long standig bug. Version 3.6.2 seems to have fixed this. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng is writing binary
On Friday 26 December 2014 23:33:33 I wrote: For some time now I've had syslog-ng writing /var/log/messages in a binary format: [...] Can I use the following method to restore the original text format of /var/log/messages? 1.Boot rescue system and mount main system 2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log 3.# mv messages messages.bin 4.# strings messages.bin messages 5.# rm messages.bin 6.Reboot. I tried steps 1 - 4 and got a text file with very long lines, but I chickened out before rebooting. Never mind. I did as I suggested and rebooted, and so far everything seems hunky-dory. Sorry for making a noise. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Syslog-ng is writing binary
On Saturday 27 December 2014 13:10:17 Helmut Jarausch wrote: I think this was a long standig bug. Version 3.6.2 seems to have fixed this. Ah. Well I'm still on 3.4.8. Mick, if you don't hear anything from me soonish, it will be safe to remove the binary stuff using the method I mentioned. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Activities
On Saturday 27 December 2014 09:57:09 Mick wrote: On Saturday 27 Dec 2014 09:43:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: No doubt this is just as silly an idea as building KMail without its database, which also has caused considerable grief. Peter, I can't advise on the Activities question, but can you please tell me how you managed to build Kmail without its database? Is it fully functional? I didn't realise I was being ambiguous - sorry. As far as I know, it's impossible to build KMail without its database. It's called progress. ;-) -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Activities
On Saturday 27 December 2014 09:43:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: Morning list, Is there a way to build KDE without its concept of Activities? I find it an unnecessary complication, which I never use. Any time I found myself wrestling with it by accident it's caused little other than anger and frustration. No doubt this is just as silly an idea as building KMail without its database, which also has caused considerable grief. +1 Don't understand it. Don't want to. Really hate when I press the wrong button, it does some crazy inscrutable bullshit, and I have to figure out how to escape from it with my desktop intact. Probably I just want to check my email, or whatever, and all of a sudden, it's like some ridiculous bridge troll is posing riddles to me and threatening to blow up my desktop if I answer wrong. After quickly ducking this, I'm not optimistic. This is particularly discouraging: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=91160 Sounds an awful lot like the cashew/virtuoso/etc. If history is any guide, they'll never change it, no matter how nicely we ask, nor how carefully we construct the patches to make it optional. -gmt
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Activities
On 28/12/2014 06:08, Gregory M. Turner wrote: On Saturday 27 December 2014 09:43:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: Morning list, Is there a way to build KDE without its concept of Activities? I find it an unnecessary complication, which I never use. Any time I found myself wrestling with it by accident it's caused little other than anger and frustration. No doubt this is just as silly an idea as building KMail without its database, which also has caused considerable grief. +1 Don't understand it. Don't want to. Really hate when I press the wrong button, it does some crazy inscrutable bullshit, and I have to figure out how to escape from it with my desktop intact. Probably I just want to check my email, or whatever, and all of a sudden, it's like some ridiculous bridge troll is posing riddles to me and threatening to blow up my desktop if I answer wrong. After quickly ducking this, I'm not optimistic. This is particularly discouraging: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=91160 Sounds an awful lot like the cashew/virtuoso/etc. If history is any guide, they'll never change it, no matter how nicely we ask, nor how carefully we construct the patches to make it optional. You can't build KDE without activities as far as I can tell, like a poster said in the link you provided it's a core feature much like tabs in Firefox. You can't just remove that code and still have stuff work. What you can do is make Activities go away and never impinge on your life, that's what I do. I've had KDE here for years and like you never grokked what it even is when it first hit early in 4.x. I'm a grumpy old far, I like my 6 virtual desktops in 2 rows of three, I like to launch the apps myself I known I'm going to use now, and I like global session management for apps I always use all the time (like Konsole). I don't like Activities. I made them go away and have been using the same KDE config ever since quite happily. IIRC all it really took was to remove the icon[1] from the panel, and maybe disable some keyboard shortcuts. Activities hasn't appeared here for years now, I'd forgotten all about them till this thread showed up :-) Anyway, hope this helps [1] The icon is the one with three small overlapping circles IIRC -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
