Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread roger.cahn
N c'est  c Cwx

Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.xxww
 Message d'origine De : Peter Humphrey  
Date : 26/11/2017  03:30  (GMT+01:00) À : gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Objet : 
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix 
On Saturday, 25 November 2017 16:20:46 GMT Jalus Bilieyich wrote:
> As an everyday user of KMail, I am completely happy with using it. I
> don't see any flaws with it. Maybe it's just me or...? Is there a reason
> behind the hostile glare towards KMail?

Do you have POP3 or IMAP-4 accounts?

It used to be like that for me too, but not for a long time now. I get 
duplicate messages, which are a known problem and easily worked around, but 
the latest version of KMail whinges about more than one candidate for 
display and just gives up. Then I have to stop KMail, start akonadiconsole 
and use it to delete the akonadi cache of the affected folder, restart 
akonadi and (when the debug messages quieten down) restart KMail and click 
on the same folder. Then it rebuilds the threads and stores them neatly away 
in MySQL.

This happens several times a day, sometimes even more than once in the same 
folder. I don't know why I should be affected more than anyone else, but I 
do seem to be. It reminds me of Dale and his struggles a few years ago with 
... what was it again, Dale?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread roger.cahn




Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy.
 Message d'origine De : Peter vvHumphrey 
 Date : 26/11/2017  03:30  (GMT+01:00) À : 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Objet : Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to 
feed postfix il
On Saturday, 25 November 2017 rSw16:20:46 GMT Jalus Bilieyich wrote:
> As an everyday user of KMail, I am completely happy with using it. I
> don't see any flaws with it. Maybe it's just me or...? Is there a réason
> behind the hostile glare towards KMailhx xfrc?

Do you have POP3 or IMAP-4 accounts?

It used to be like that for me too, but not for a long time now. I get 
duplicate messages, which are a known problem and easily worked around, but 
the wlatesfrrxft version of KMail whinges about more than one candidate 
for 
display and just gives up. Then I h w W wwdsrave to stop KMail, wwstart 
akonadiconsole 
and use it to delete the akonadi cache of the affected folder, restart 
akonadi and (when the debug messages quieten down) restart KMail and click 
on the same folder. Then it rebuilds the threads and stores them neatly away 
in MySQL.

This happens several times a day, sometimes even more than once in the same 
folder. I don't know why I should be affected more than anyone else, but I 
do seem to be. It reminds me of Dale and his struggles a few years ago with 
... what was it again, Dale?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/11/2017 04:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday, 25 November 2017 16:20:46 GMT Jalus Bilieyich wrote:
>> As an everyday user of KMail, I am completely happy with using it. I
>> don't see any flaws with it. Maybe it's just me or...? Is there a reason
>> behind the hostile glare towards KMail?
> 
> Do you have POP3 or IMAP-4 accounts?
> 
> It used to be like that for me too, but not for a long time now. I get 
> duplicate messages, which are a known problem and easily worked around, but 
> the latest version of KMail whinges about more than one candidate for 
> display and just gives up. Then I have to stop KMail, start akonadiconsole 
> and use it to delete the akonadi cache of the affected folder, restart 
> akonadi and (when the debug messages quieten down) restart KMail and click 
> on the same folder. Then it rebuilds the threads and stores them neatly away 
> in MySQL.
> 
> This happens several times a day, sometimes even more than once in the same 
> folder. I don't know why I should be affected more than anyone else, but I 
> do seem to be. It reminds me of Dale and his struggles a few years ago with 
> ... what was it again, Dale?
> 

it was the init thingy, and before that it was HAL

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 25 November 2017 16:20:46 GMT Jalus Bilieyich wrote:
> As an everyday user of KMail, I am completely happy with using it. I
> don't see any flaws with it. Maybe it's just me or...? Is there a reason
> behind the hostile glare towards KMail?

Do you have POP3 or IMAP-4 accounts?

It used to be like that for me too, but not for a long time now. I get 
duplicate messages, which are a known problem and easily worked around, but 
the latest version of KMail whinges about more than one candidate for 
display and just gives up. Then I have to stop KMail, start akonadiconsole 
and use it to delete the akonadi cache of the affected folder, restart 
akonadi and (when the debug messages quieten down) restart KMail and click 
on the same folder. Then it rebuilds the threads and stores them neatly away 
in MySQL.

This happens several times a day, sometimes even more than once in the same 
folder. I don't know why I should be affected more than anyone else, but I 
do seem to be. It reminds me of Dale and his struggles a few years ago with 
... what was it again, Dale?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Jalus Bilieyich
As an everyday user of KMail, I am completely happy with using it. I
don't see any flaws with it. Maybe it's just me or...? Is there a reason
behind the hostile glare towards KMail?

On 11/25/2017 03:23 AM, Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Samstag, 25. November 2017, 10:04:44 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
>> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:43:04 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote:
 Funnily enough, I switched to Claws because I found KMail
 horrible...
>>>
>>> I switched from Claws to KMail in part because I hated that checking
>>> for emails would block the GUI.  Not being able to type because Claws
>>> decided to check for emails in the background again became more and
>>> more infuriating over time...
>>
>> That only happens if you enable the setting to open a progress window
>> when checking for mails. I use background checking here because that
>> would annoy me as much as it did you!
> 
> Huh!  I did not know that, thanks.  That will be useful to know should I ever 
> use Claws again :) .
> 



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Samstag, 25. November 2017, 10:04:44 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:43:04 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote:
> > > Funnily enough, I switched to Claws because I found KMail
> > > horrible...
> > 
> > I switched from Claws to KMail in part because I hated that checking
> > for emails would block the GUI.  Not being able to type because Claws
> > decided to check for emails in the background again became more and
> > more infuriating over time...
> 
> That only happens if you enable the setting to open a progress window
> when checking for mails. I use background checking here because that
> would annoy me as much as it did you!

Huh!  I did not know that, thanks.  That will be useful to know should I ever 
use Claws again :) .

-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:43:04 +0100, Marc Joliet wrote:

> > Funnily enough, I switched to Claws because I found KMail
> > horrible...  
> 
> I switched from Claws to KMail in part because I hated that checking
> for emails would block the GUI.  Not being able to type because Claws
> decided to check for emails in the background again became more and
> more infuriating over time...

That only happens if you enable the setting to open a progress window
when checking for mails. I use background checking here because that
would annoy me as much as it did you!


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The trouble with the world is that everybody in it is three drinks behind.


pgppD5kGa5HpZ.pgp
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 17:56:27 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> > Are you mixing portage/env up with portage/package.env? The latter
> > loads conf files from env that contain variable assignments.  
> 
> I don't think I'm mixing them up: one of them is a directory, so hardly
> can contain any code at all ;-)
> 
> (Well, the other _can_ also be a directory, but YSWIM).

Both are directories here, so it would be easy to confuse them.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

deja vous - the act of forgetting someone's name /again/ despite being
introduced to them several times.


pgpmLT88Nlr_O.pgp
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, 24. November 2017, 23:24:45 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:39:25 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > My MUA is KMail-2, which seems to be all right for others using IMAP
> > but is very far from robust when fetching POP3 mails. I've tried
> > alternatives to it, but none of them suit me - in particular,
> > claws-mail is horrible,
> 
> Funnily enough, I switched to Claws because I found KMail horrible...

I switched from Claws to KMail in part because I hated that checking for 
emails would block the GUI.  Not being able to type because Claws decided to 
check for emails in the background again became more and more infuriating over 
time... (Also, I find that Claws feels... out of place under Plasma.)

That said, I like both, for different reasons (other than the apparent global 
lock, Claws *is* blazingly fast).

Greetings
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.