Re: [gentoo-user] Permissions error on starting X.
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:06:13 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > Is it safe to run X.org suid set? > > > > Why take a chance when it is unnecessary? > ...not answering my question, sorry. It's not, it's saying that if you are concerned about using suid (and you should always think about that) you may prefer to know that there is no need to do it in this case, as I posted earlier. -- Neil Bothwick You are about to give someone a piece of your mind, something you can ill afford... pgpOXl5qorx24.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On 2018-11-03, wabe wrote: > After KDE3 wasn't supported any longer and KDE4 was unusable in my > opinion, I tested IceWM, Windowmaker and Sawfish/Sawmill. Finally I > switched to XFCE which I still use. I used XFCE for many, many years. But, I was forced to give up on it a few years ago when it stopped supporting multiple screens. I've been using openbox since then. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Don't hit me!! I'm in at the Twilight Zone!!! gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 2018-11-03, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > HEADS UP!!! > > If you start your X server from the command line with, e.g. startx, you > now need to set the new(?) suid USE flag for the xorg-server package. Yep, I tripped over this yesterday, when all of a sudden I couldn't start X anymore. Thanks for the advanced notice on that one! > The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users > by a NEWS item, that I can see. Yea, that seems like a major foul-up to me. I had to log in as root so that I could start X, so that I could use google to try to figure out what went wrong. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! My LESLIE GORE record at is BROKEN ... gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version >> number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users >> by a NEWS item, that I can see. > > Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D > (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Why is everything made at of Lycra Spandex? gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users by a NEWS item, that I can see. Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package, and the USE flag in question is shown by portage. So you'll know something has changed. If you went ahead and allowed it to rebuild, it would of course break xorg, but you'd know why since you've seen the USE flag change and know that the breakage most probably had something to do with that USE flag.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:27 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >>> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > >>> number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users > >>> by a NEWS item, that I can see. > >> > >> Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D > >> (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. > > > > What do you mean "catch this"? > > > > I always use -D, and the change broke my system. > > I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package -D will not cause USE flag changes to trigger a rebuild of a package. You're thinking of --newuse in this particular case. I'm not sure if --changed-use would cause a rebuild if the previous flag was defaulted to enabled and not explicitly enabled (of course, if it were explicitly enabled you wouldn't have run into this issue). -- Rich
[gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On 03/11/2018 06:43, Alan Grimes wrote: How did they make it so that 40% of ordinary zip files I try to open with konqueror fail CRC (but work perfectly from the command line) It used to have nice large icon mode with previews, and nice small-icons in normal mode... Broken too for many months now. =\ Akregator crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab... It went about three years without saving anything to disk when it's supposed to buffer my RSS feeds. Now it's just crashtastic in the extreme... Plasma in itself is not too bad. I use Plasma, but not Konqueror or Akregator. Find the applications that work best for you. Just because you use Plasma doesn't mean you need to use the rest of KDE's applications ;-) My browser is Firefox, my email client is Thunderbird, my image viewer is eog (Eye of GNOME), etc, etc. I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is Dolphin.
[gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.
On 05/11/2018 18:35, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:27 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version number from 1.20.3 when making this change, and also didn't notify users by a NEWS item, that I can see. Emerge will catch this, no need for revbump. Unless you're not using -D (--deep) when updating world. Which you should. What do you mean "catch this"? I always use -D, and the change broke my system. I mean that a USE flag change will trigger a rebuild of the package -D will not cause USE flag changes to trigger a rebuild of a package. You're thinking of --newuse in this particular case. Oops, yes. I meant -N (--newuse). Not -D. Got confused. I always upgrade using: emerge -auDN --changed-deps @world The "N" was the important flag here, not the "D".
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On Monday, 5 November 2018 16:35:09 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is Dolphin. Wot, not even kmail? ;) -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Android studio emulator without PulseAudio
Andrew Savchenko writes: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:53:33 + Pouru Lasse wrote: >> "Davyd McColl" writes: >> >> > Would apulse not do the trick? >> > >> > -d >> > On 2018-10-30 11:15:14, Pouru Lasse wrote: >> > >> > Is it possible to run the emulator included with Android Studio without >> > having PulseAudio installed? When I try to launch the emulator, it >> > instantly crashes because it can't find libpulse.so.0. My QEMU package >> > is compiled without PulseAudio, but Android SDK comes with its own >> > version of QEMU. >> > >> > Setting QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=none, as instructed in Android Studio manual, >> > seems to have no effect, and the Gentoo wiki page on Android Studio just >> > tells you to install PulseAudio. >> > >> > I don't mind having no audio at all, I just don't want to install >> > PulseAudio. Any options? >> > >> > - Lasse >> >> I already had apulse installed, but apparently the emulator doesn't look >> for the library in the right directory. I copied all the libpulse.* >> files under ~/Android/Sdk/emulator/lib/ and >> ~/Android/Sdk/emulator/lib64/ and now it seems to work. > > You should run emulator as: > $ apulse command_to_run_emulator > > Or install the latest apulse with USE=sdk. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko What exactly is the purpose of the sdk USE flag? To provide the files required for development with PulseAudio? Compiling apulse with the sdk flag had no noticeable effect on Android Studio, but it did cause Unity (the game engine) to crash at startup. I'm not sure if this is a problem with Unity (happened with all versions I tested) or the apulse package. - Lasse
[gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On 05/11/2018 19:07, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 5 November 2018 16:35:09 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is Dolphin. Wot, not even kmail? ;) Nope. When I try to emerge kmail, I get this: https://pastebin.com/raw/H2QG6vzg And I run away screaming like a little child that's just been told Santa Claus died violently in a horrible car crash...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:36 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 03/11/2018 06:43, Alan Grimes wrote: > > How did they make it so that 40% of ordinary zip files I try to open > > with konqueror fail CRC (but work perfectly from the command line) > > > > It used to have nice large icon mode with previews, and nice small-icons > > in normal mode... Broken too for many months now. =\ > > > > Akregator crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab... It went > > about three years without saving anything to disk when it's supposed to > > buffer my RSS feeds. Now it's just crashtastic in the extreme... > > Plasma in itself is not too bad. I use Plasma, but not Konqueror or > Akregator. Find the applications that work best for you. Just because > you use Plasma doesn't mean you need to use the rest of KDE's > applications ;-) > > My browser is Firefox, my email client is Thunderbird, my image viewer > is eog (Eye of GNOME), etc, etc. > > I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is Dolphin. > Plasma has some rough patches but the code quality is a lot better than previous KDE frameworks. It improves regularly, so please keep complaints current. I do understand though - it has gotten a bit less stable since I last tried it, but I think it is time to try it again. For my daily driver I tend to use i3 though. Cheers, R0b0t1
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 3 November 2018 22:44:32 GMT Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Saturday, 3 November 2018 16:28:58 GMT wabe wrote: I would like to try Trinity Desktop (based on KDE3) but unfortunately there is no Gentoo package. I don't know if there is an Gentoo overlay containing Trinity, but I never used overlays and don't have time to fiddle around anyway. >>> In that case, from what I've seen I'd say you shouldn't even wonder about >>> trinity. You'd have to go back a long way with all manner of programs, and >>> even then perhaps not get everything you want. >>> >>> /2p >> I installed KDE3 for a friend with a very low powered computer several >> years ago. At the time, it was in the sunset overlay. Even then it was >> a headache and took some effort to install. Some newer programs outside >> of KDE wanted newer versions of libs and KDE3 wanted older ones. I had >> to install older versions of several programs just to make KDE3 happy. >> Given the changes that have been made over the years since, I doubt it >> is doable. I seem to recall that KDE3 wasn't well maintained back then >> and figure it may even be worse now if it is maintained at all with >> regards to Gentoo. >> >> If had to do a install today for a low powered system, I'd find >> something besides KDE3 even tho I still miss some things about it too. >> There's plenty of more maintained desktops out there to look at. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > I also liked KDE-3 more than anything which succeeded it from the KDE stable > and have mourned its passing. I also particularly liked Konqueror's > integration with file management. The current Konqueror maintainer is trying > single-handedly to keep it running as a simple browser and does not have the > (human) resources to recreate the FM functionality of KDE 3 on it. He has > asked for devs to join him, but had no takers. > > I've tried Trinity in the past, but at the time it was nowhere near developed > enough to use on a daily basis. > Dolphin stopped allowing root access a while back. When that happened, I starting looking for another file manager that isn't constantly making changes that don't work for me. Currently I'm using Krusader. It works as root so I can edit files in /etc, /root and such. While I get that in most distros that setting may be good, it isn't for Gentoo where we have to edit files as root. I also have a couple others installed as a backup to Krusader. One thing that concerns me about Konqueror and KDE3, security issues. Unless there is enough people involved to fix security issues, they shouldn't be used at least for anything network/internet related depending on the situation of course. One should always consider security fixes. I suspect there isn't enough people wanting Trinity on Gentoo is the reason it isn't available. That said, if it was and was well maintained, I'd certainly give it a look. Sadly tho, I think Trinity/KDE3 was be dying at some point. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Problem executing pgAdmin4
Hello, pgadmin3 is masked now. So i installed pgadmin4 (current stable verion 3.0). Installed w/o problems. But when executing it (in a terminal window) i get a dialog box saying An error occurred initialising the application server: An error occurred initialising the application server: %1 and the terminal window is filled pagewise with --- cut --- Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" Python Home: "" Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" "Failed to launch the application server, server thread exiting. \u➑\u\u\u榠\u1C93翱\u먀ᰆ翱 \u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u000F\u\u\u＄ \u09FF－＆Ͽ\u\u0005\u0A0E＋（\u07FE\u\u＂\u，攍兇须꾭懰䀌翱\u\uEAB0ᜊ翱 \u㙔\uE4C8帚꿧\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u盚饇䥟璊Ꙑ䀌翱 \u\uA8C8ᜉ翱\u鯩슄鼗䷷\u0E70䀋翱\u偈䀌翱\u✠徰⼬蘉좸⠪翱\uꃘᜋ翱\uⷬ행膀ꈋꈨ䀌翱 \u垀ᜋ翱\u沦⻋䎛緒짐⠪翱\u嚠ᜋ翱\u段ꉀꒅ텣遰⠤翱\u撈ᜋ翱\u⻲幕炈멕胰䀌翱\u攐ᜋ翱 \u\uE6A3ᓐ溪껊쫨⠪翱\u斘ᜋ翱\u\uF42F끒䙭㔋昰䀌翱\u映ᜋ翱\u盰\uE66A⍷캪限ᮑ翱\u 좸ᜊ翱\u뱾ס⏤鱑룰⠁翱\u춸ᜊ翱\uꢦ蔞蠹꾞㨈䀐翱\u츈ᜊ翱\u\uF20E㥑䶫텓움⡌翱\u饠\u1CBB ... --- cut --- Selecting "Ok " in the dialog box i get an other tabbed dialog box asking for a browser command (currently empty) and Python paths (preset values seem ok). Entering "/usr/bin/firefox %URL%" as browser command does not change anything. Any hints ? Info: Kernel 4.14.65 (Gentoo) KDE Plasma (kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.13.5) Memory 16 G Apache installed but not running Browsers konqueror and firefox available pgadmin3 still installed Python 2.7, 3.6 and 3.5 installed (= "eselect python list" output) regards Petric
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
181105 Dale wrote: > Currently I'm using Krusader. It works as root, > so I can edit files in /etc, /root and such. I can recommend Krusader to any KDE user. I do most file management from CLI, but sometimes need heavy lifting. If anyone tries it, they should look into its many features : there's a PDF help doc available. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
Philip Webb wrote: > 181105 Dale wrote: >> Currently I'm using Krusader. It works as root, >> so I can edit files in /etc, /root and such. > I can recommend Krusader to any KDE user. > I do most file management from CLI, but sometimes need heavy lifting. > If anyone tries it, they should look into its many features : > there's a PDF help doc available. > That's my thinking as well. It is different from Konqueror but it does the job pretty well and seems to be pretty light and fast. The biggest thing, it allows running as root. I've been really busy recently. My Mom was in the hospital for several weeks, that's a long time here. After that, she was in a nursing home trying to get her strength back and had a few set backs while there. She comes home tomorrow and is in better shape than she was over a year ago. Maybe even a couple years ago. That has kept me busy and pretty much wore out at times. I have health issues of my own. So, I haven't been able to really dig deep into Krusader as yet. Basically, I got it to where I can edit files in /etc and /root and pretty much left it as is. The one thing I'd like to change, being able to click/double click on a file and it open. That's how Dolphin and the old Konqueror was set up. As it is, you have to hit F4 to edit which opens Kwrite/Kate depending on settings for text files. I also wish it wouldn't separate the file name and the extension. I prefer them to be together. Heck, I might use Krusader as a regular user if I could get that last one configured right. ;-) I really do need to research that more. Do you have a link to that pdf? I'm on version 2.7.1. but any recent version would be nice. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's with KDE?
On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:07:55 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think my only KDE application is my file manager, which is > > Dolphin. > > Wot, not even kmail? ;) Especially not KMail! Most of the KDE-related problems posted to this list involve KMail. -- Neil Bothwick deja noo - reminds you of the last time you visited Scotland pgpzDexSq28je.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
On 2018-11-05 21:40, Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 181105 Dale wrote: Currently I'm using Krusader. It works as root, so I can edit files in /etc, /root and such. I can recommend Krusader to any KDE user. I do most file management from CLI, but sometimes need heavy lifting. If anyone tries it, they should look into its many features : there's a PDF help doc available. That's my thinking as well. It is different from Konqueror but it does the job pretty well and seems to be pretty light and fast. The biggest thing, it allows running as root. I've been really busy recently. My Mom was in the hospital for several weeks, that's a long time here. After that, she was in a nursing home trying to get her strength back and had a few set backs while there. She comes home tomorrow and is in better shape than she was over a year ago. Maybe even a couple years ago. That has kept me busy and pretty much wore out at times. I have health issues of my own. So, I haven't been able to really dig deep into Krusader as yet. Basically, I got it to where I can edit files in /etc and /root and pretty much left it as is. The one thing I'd like to change, being able to click/double click on a file and it open. That's how Dolphin and the old Konqueror was set up. As it is, you have to hit F4 to edit which opens Kwrite/Kate depending on settings for text files. I also wish it wouldn't separate the file name and the extension. I prefer them to be together. Heck, I might use Krusader as a regular user if I could get that last one configured right. ;-) I really do need to research that more. Do you have a link to that pdf? I'm on version 2.7.1. but any recent version would be nice. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) I've been reading through this discussion and seen several references to "run as root". As I've been guilty of doing that myself for a while (and not realizing it was actually actively prevented since some time), I decided to look into the reasoning why it's not possible anymore. Apparently, it wasn't taken lightheartedly. The reasoning behind it was that the terminal (which also has root now) can be activated and used by injecting keystrokes (through XTest). Whether that's a concern of the end user is up for them to decide (if you don't allow any external party to access your system by not allowing ssh etc. you'd basically be perfectly safe), but it's an interesting backdoor. However, KDE also planned to bring in a more fine-grained approach by allowing KIO to use PolicyKit to allow editing of restricted files. This would mean that Dolphin, KWrite and Kate all get their "root" back, but in the form of a "you require elevated rights to do this, please specify your password" which can be protected better. Then again, this raises the issue of whether PolicyKit is such a great feature. I've been having problems with that myself as it can and will be DoS'd when it gets too many requests (had a rogue libvirt client which did several requests all of which needed to go through PolicyKit to verify access). While the failure mode is safe, it will block any attempt at authorizing, it's a big nuisance because other things may depend on it. Lastly, Qt also advises against being used under root due to the sheer scope of the project which would mean that even krusader might not be totally safe. I wanted to share this for those that read this discussion to reiterate the implications allowing root, and allowing it in these GUI applications. Of course, if it works for you and you don't see any risk, by any means go for it. But also keep in mind that there are apparently fair reasons behind this change. That said, I also started to look into krusader and I might use it more. Greetings, Daniel Sonck
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem executing pgAdmin4
On 2018.11.05 14:21, Petric Frank wrote: Hello, pgadmin3 is masked now. So i installed pgadmin4 (current stable verion 3.0). Installed w/o problems. But when executing it (in a terminal window) i get a dialog box saying An error occurred initialising the application server: An error occurred initialising the application server: %1 and the terminal window is filled pagewise with --- cut --- Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" Python Home: "" Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" "Failed to launch the application server, server thread exiting. \u➑\u\u\u榠\u1C93翱\u먀ᰆ翱 \u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u000F\u\u\u＄ \u09FF－＆Ͽ\u\u0005\u0A0E＋（\u07FE\u\u＂\u，攍兇须꾭懰䀌翱\u\uEAB0ᜊ翱 \u㙔\uE4C8帚꿧\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u盚饇䥟璊Ꙑ䀌翱 \u\uA8C8ᜉ翱\u鯩슄鼗䷷\u0E70䀋翱\u偈䀌翱\u✠徰⼬蘉좸⠪翱\uꃘᜋ翱\uⷬ행膀ꈋꈨ䀌翱 \u垀ᜋ翱\u沦⻋䎛緒짐⠪翱\u嚠ᜋ翱\u段ꉀꒅ텣遰⠤翱\u撈ᜋ翱\u⻲幕炈멕胰䀌翱\u攐ᜋ翱 \u\uE6A3ᓐ溪껊쫨⠪翱\u斘ᜋ翱\u\uF42F끒䙭㔋昰䀌翱\u映ᜋ翱\u盰\uE66A⍷캪限ᮑ翱\u 좸ᜊ翱\u뱾ס⏤鱑룰⠁翱\u춸ᜊ翱\uꢦ蔞蠹꾞㨈䀐翱\u츈ᜊ翱\u\uF20E㥑䶫텓움⡌翱\u饠\u1CBB ... --- cut --- Selecting "Ok " in the dialog box i get an other tabbed dialog box asking for a browser command (currently empty) and Python paths (preset values seem ok). Entering "/usr/bin/firefox %URL%" as browser command does not change anything. Any hints ? Info: Kernel 4.14.65 (Gentoo) KDE Plasma (kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.13.5) Memory 16 G Apache installed but not running Browsers konqueror and firefox available pgadmin3 still installed Python 2.7, 3.6 and 3.5 installed (= "eselect python list" output) regards Petric Interesting. I only get - Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" Python Home: "" Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" And then a popup that says "The application server could not be contacted." This is with eselect postgresql set to either 9.6 or 10. Also - all above running as myself, although I get the same results with root or postgres. It looks like although I have 10 installed, I never initialized it, although 9.6 should work OK. I'm now emerging the test version of pgAdmin4 to see if it makes any difference. Jack
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
dsonck wrote: > On 2018-11-05 21:40, Dale wrote: >> Philip Webb wrote: >>> 181105 Dale wrote: Currently I'm using Krusader. It works as root, so I can edit files in /etc, /root and such. >>> I can recommend Krusader to any KDE user. >>> I do most file management from CLI, but sometimes need heavy lifting. >>> If anyone tries it, they should look into its many features : >>> there's a PDF help doc available. >>> >> >> >> That's my thinking as well. It is different from Konqueror but it does >> the job pretty well and seems to be pretty light and fast. The biggest >> thing, it allows running as root. >> >> I've been really busy recently. My Mom was in the hospital for several >> weeks, that's a long time here. After that, she was in a nursing home >> trying to get her strength back and had a few set backs while there. >> She comes home tomorrow and is in better shape than she was over a year >> ago. Maybe even a couple years ago. That has kept me busy and pretty >> much wore out at times. I have health issues of my own. So, I haven't >> been able to really dig deep into Krusader as yet. Basically, I got it >> to where I can edit files in /etc and /root and pretty much left it as >> is. The one thing I'd like to change, being able to click/double click >> on a file and it open. That's how Dolphin and the old Konqueror was set >> up. As it is, you have to hit F4 to edit which opens Kwrite/Kate >> depending on settings for text files. I also wish it wouldn't separate >> the file name and the extension. I prefer them to be together. Heck, I >> might use Krusader as a regular user if I could get that last one >> configured right. ;-) >> >> I really do need to research that more. Do you have a link to that >> pdf? I'm on version 2.7.1. but any recent version would be nice. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > > I've been reading through this discussion and seen several references > to "run as root". As I've been guilty of doing that myself for a while > (and not realizing it was actually actively prevented since some > time), I decided to look into the reasoning why it's not possible > anymore. > > Apparently, it wasn't taken lightheartedly. The reasoning behind it > was that the terminal (which also has root now) can be activated and > used by injecting keystrokes (through XTest). Whether that's a concern > of the end user is up for them to decide (if you don't allow any > external party to access your system by not allowing ssh etc. you'd > basically be perfectly safe), but it's an interesting backdoor. > However, KDE also planned to bring in a more fine-grained approach by > allowing KIO to use PolicyKit to allow editing of restricted files. > This would mean that Dolphin, KWrite and Kate all get their "root" > back, but in the form of a "you require elevated rights to do this, > please specify your password" which can be protected better. > > Then again, this raises the issue of whether PolicyKit is such a great > feature. I've been having problems with that myself as it can and will > be DoS'd when it gets too many requests (had a rogue libvirt client > which did several requests all of which needed to go through PolicyKit > to verify access). While the failure mode is safe, it will block any > attempt at authorizing, it's a big nuisance because other things may > depend on it. > > Lastly, Qt also advises against being used under root due to the sheer > scope of the project which would mean that even krusader might not be > totally safe. > > I wanted to share this for those that read this discussion to > reiterate the implications allowing root, and allowing it in these GUI > applications. Of course, if it works for you and you don't see any > risk, by any means go for it. But also keep in mind that there are > apparently fair reasons behind this change. That said, I also started > to look into krusader and I might use it more. > > Greetings, > > Daniel Sonck > > I've read that too plus that some distros just don't need root much if any. Thing is, with Gentoo, root is required at times. Sometimes, it is the only way to edit certain files. Since I am almost always in a GUI, I prefer to use GUI tools, plus it is much easier to copy and paste as well. That said, I don't have ssh open here. I only have one system anyway so there is nothing to ssh in with. I also only open Krusader as root for short periods of time. Generally, during OS updates which I'm about two or three weeks late on I think. While it is safe for me, it may not be for others. Either way, sometimes you have to be root while doing updates. With Gentoo, it is just that way. As you rightly point out tho, in some situations, doing that could open a door. If one has those situations, they may want to either wait for a better solution or access those files some other way, nano on a console or something. As with anything, ones has to take into account security. Of course, I'm on DSL and behind a ro
Re: [gentoo-user] Android studio emulator without PulseAudio
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:21:14 + Pouru Lasse wrote: > Andrew Savchenko writes: [...] > > You should run emulator as: > > $ apulse command_to_run_emulator > > > > Or install the latest apulse with USE=sdk. > > > > Best regards, > > Andrew Savchenko > > What exactly is the purpose of the sdk USE flag? To provide the files > required for development with PulseAudio? To install apulse as a (partial) replacement of PulseAudio: it installs header files, pkgconfig files and places libraries at standard system paths, so that apulse wrapper is no longer needed. However, apulse is not a full PA replacement by design, so this will work only with limited set of applications. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpvAYzCWB2vv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem executing pgAdmin4
Am Dienstag, 6. November 2018, 01:00:04 CET schrieb Jack: > On 2018.11.05 14:21, Petric Frank wrote: > > Hello, > > > > pgadmin3 is masked now. So i installed pgadmin4 (current stable > > verion 3.0). > > Installed w/o problems. > > > > But when executing it (in a terminal window) i get a dialog box saying > > > > An error occurred initialising the application server: > > An error occurred initialising the application server: > > %1 > > > > and the terminal window is filled pagewise with > > --- cut --- > > Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" > > Python Home: "" > > Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" > > "Failed to launch the application server, server thread exiting. > > \u➑\u\u\u榠\u1C93翱\u먀ᰆ翱 > > \u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u000F\u\u\u > > ＄ > > \u09FF－＆Ͽ\u\u0005\u0A0E＋（\u07FE\u\u＂\u，攍兇须꾭懰䀌翱\u\uEAB > > 0ᜊ翱 \u㙔\uE4C8帚꿧\u\u\u\u\u\u\u\u盚饇䥟璊Ꙑ䀌翱 > > \u\uA8C8ᜉ翱\u鯩슄鼗䷷\u0E70䀋翱\u偈䀌翱\u✠徰⼬蘉좸⠪翱\uꃘᜋ翱\uⷬ행膀ꈋ > > ꈨ䀌翱 > > \u垀ᜋ翱\u沦⻋䎛緒짐⠪翱\u嚠ᜋ翱\u段ꉀꒅ텣遰⠤翱\u撈ᜋ翱\u⻲幕炈멕胰䀌翱\u攐 > > ᜋ翱 > > \u\uE6A3ᓐ溪껊쫨⠪翱\u斘ᜋ翱\u\uF42F끒䙭㔋昰䀌翱\u映ᜋ翱\u盰\uE66A⍷캪限ᮑ翱\ > > u > > 좸ᜊ翱\u뱾ס⏤鱑룰⠁翱\u춸ᜊ翱\uꢦ蔞蠹꾞㨈䀐翱\u츈ᜊ翱\u\uF20E㥑䶫텓움⡌翱\u饠\ > > u1CBB ... > > --- cut --- > > > > Selecting "Ok " in the dialog box i get an other tabbed dialog box > > asking for > > a browser command (currently empty) and Python paths (preset values > > seem ok). > > > > Entering "/usr/bin/firefox %URL%" as browser command does not change > > anything. > > > > Any hints ? > > > > Info: > > Kernel 4.14.65 (Gentoo) > > KDE Plasma (kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.13.5) > > Memory 16 G > > Apache installed but not running > > Browsers konqueror and firefox available > > pgadmin3 still installed > > Python 2.7, 3.6 and 3.5 installed (= "eselect python list" output) > > > > regards > > > > Petric > > Interesting. I only get > - > Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" > Python Home: "" > Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" > > And then a popup that says "The application server could not be > contacted." > > This is with eselect postgresql set to either 9.6 or 10. Also - all > above running as myself, although I get the same results with root or > postgres. It looks like although I have 10 installed, I never > initialized it, although 9.6 should work OK. > > I'm now emerging the test version of pgAdmin4 to see if it makes any > difference. > > Jack Hello Jack, if i remove the .pgadmin directory in my home i get - after a long wait a dialog box saying The application server could not be contacted. In the terminal it prints: -- cut -- Python path: "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages" Python Home: "" Webapp path: "/usr/share/pgadmin4/web/pgAdmin4.py" NOTE: Configuring authentication for DESKTOP mode. -- cut -- Starting pgAdmin4 again i get the output and dialogs i wrote initially in this thread. regards Petric
