Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build
William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote: >> the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> >>> Thelma >>> >>> On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new case, or, I might build the new system in my current case. It depends on which case I buy. A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system. It would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box. My current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans. It has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air. A top fan really improves heat removal. After all, heat naturally rises. So any case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804. It's a cube shaped thing but can hold a LOT of spinning rust. 10 drives plus I think space for a SSD for the OS as well. 10, 16 or 18TB drives, is a lot of space, even if in a RAID setup. I might add, the price ain't bad either, cheaper than some full tower type cases. It also has space for 10 fans. That includes several top ones. The downside, only micro ATX and mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. I was hoping to turn my current rig into a NAS. The mobo and such parts. This won't be a option with this case. Otherwise, it gives ideas on what I'm looking for. And not. ;-) >>> [snip] >>> >>> I am most likely too late but as for case I have two of these: >>> https://www.newegg.ca/white-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2AM-030R-5 >>> >>> They are mesh type cases, run very cool no heat at all; planning on >>> getting two more. >>> >>> Thelma >>> >>> >> >> The case I got holds I think 18 3.5" hard drives. Eventually, I'll run >> out there if I keep downloading stuff. I got plenty of entertainment >> tho. lol The case you linked to wouldn't even be a start. It does >> look nice tho. I bet that mesh does allow a lot of air to flow even >> without fans. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> >> >> > If your handy with some tools, you could do one of these ... > "https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-server/; > > BillK Now imagine using 16, 18 or 20TB drives instead of 4TB ones in that thing??? That is really, really nice tho. I've thought of building a rig on a piece of plywood. Then I can add hard drives to my hearts content by just adding some sort of drive cages, my own making if needed. I could take a 2 foot by 4 foot piece of plywood and have room for TONS of drives. I've seen several cages that hold 4 or 5 drives each. The mobo, power supply and such would only take a small amount of space really. Lots of room to mount drive cages. Cooling wouldn't be a real issue either since everything is wide open. I'm thinking of building a small storage building, maybe a 8 foot by 12 foot to put my deep freezer and my backup system in, along with some other electronic stuff. I could have it far enough away that if something happened to my main house, it wouldn't affect where my main system is. After finding that ethernet to fiber converter thingy, that helped. I could have a small A/C and heater to keep the temps reasonable. I would build it well insulated of course. Well, at least the water heater is done with. Shouldn't have to worry about it for 15 or 20 years. May be the last one I buy. o-O Oh, my 770T NAS box setup was acting weird. Sometimes it wouldn't come up right. It acted like something was not posting correct at power up. I bought a 4 pack of Nvidia NVS 510 with 4 outputs. I replaced the video card that was on there and after a couple boot ups, it seems to be working better. I guess that old card was a bit flakey. I hope ti stays that way. Dale :-) :-)
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting
On 10/8/23 06:34, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 12:13:58 -0400, Valmor F. de Almeida wrote: 2) make oldconfig in the new kernel directory for linux-6.1.53-gentoo-r1 • Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities * Mitigations for speculative execution vulnerabilities (SPECULATION_MITIGATIONS) [Y/n/?] y Remove the kernel mapping in user mode (PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION) [Y/n/?] y Avoid speculative indirect branches in kernel (RETPOLINE) [Y/n/?] y Enable return-thunks (RETHUNK) [Y/n/?] y Enable UNRET on kernel entry (CPU_UNRET_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] y Enable IBPB on kernel entry (CPU_IBPB_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] y Enable IBRS on kernel entry (CPU_IBRS_ENTRY) [Y/n/?] y Up to here default is picked automatically; I don't have a choice. Those are settings you already have in your existing confid, shown to give context to the following NEW settings. You can change them, but with make config, not oldconfig. After some distractions... For the record. This problem solved itself with the 6.1.57-gentoo kernel. Just used the config from 6.1.41-gentoo in make oldconfig. Thanks for the help. -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build
On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote: the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Thelma On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new case, or, I might build the new system in my current case. It depends on which case I buy. A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system. It would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box. My current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans. It has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air. A top fan really improves heat removal. After all, heat naturally rises. So any case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804. It's a cube shaped thing but can hold a LOT of spinning rust. 10 drives plus I think space for a SSD for the OS as well. 10, 16 or 18TB drives, is a lot of space, even if in a RAID setup. I might add, the price ain't bad either, cheaper than some full tower type cases. It also has space for 10 fans. That includes several top ones. The downside, only micro ATX and mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. I was hoping to turn my current rig into a NAS. The mobo and such parts. This won't be a option with this case. Otherwise, it gives ideas on what I'm looking for. And not. ;-) [snip] I am most likely too late but as for case I have two of these: https://www.newegg.ca/white-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2AM-030R-5 They are mesh type cases, run very cool no heat at all; planning on getting two more. Thelma The case I got holds I think 18 3.5" hard drives. Eventually, I'll run out there if I keep downloading stuff. I got plenty of entertainment tho. lol The case you linked to wouldn't even be a start. It does look nice tho. I bet that mesh does allow a lot of air to flow even without fans. Dale :-) :-) If your handy with some tools, you could do one of these ... "https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-server/; BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > Thelma > > On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if >> nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price >> of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My >> first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new >> case, or, I might build the new system in my current case. It depends >> on which case I buy. A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system. It >> would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box. My >> current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans. It >> has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air. A top fan >> really improves heat removal. After all, heat naturally rises. So any >> case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. >> >> I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go >> with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would >> make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804. It's a cube shaped >> thing but can hold a LOT of spinning rust. 10 drives plus I think space >> for a SSD for the OS as well. 10, 16 or 18TB drives, is a lot of space, >> even if in a RAID setup. I might add, the price ain't bad either, >> cheaper than some full tower type cases. It also has space for 10 >> fans. That includes several top ones. The downside, only micro ATX and >> mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. I was hoping to turn >> my current rig into a NAS. The mobo and such parts. This won't be a >> option with this case. Otherwise, it gives ideas on what I'm looking >> for. And not. ;-) >> > [snip] > > I am most likely too late but as for case I have two of these: > https://www.newegg.ca/white-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2AM-030R-5 > > They are mesh type cases, run very cool no heat at all; planning on > getting two more. > > Thelma > > The case I got holds I think 18 3.5" hard drives. Eventually, I'll run out there if I keep downloading stuff. I got plenty of entertainment tho. lol The case you linked to wouldn't even be a start. It does look nice tho. I bet that mesh does allow a lot of air to flow even without fans. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build
Thelma On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new case, or, I might build the new system in my current case. It depends on which case I buy. A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system. It would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box. My current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans. It has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air. A top fan really improves heat removal. After all, heat naturally rises. So any case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804. It's a cube shaped thing but can hold a LOT of spinning rust. 10 drives plus I think space for a SSD for the OS as well. 10, 16 or 18TB drives, is a lot of space, even if in a RAID setup. I might add, the price ain't bad either, cheaper than some full tower type cases. It also has space for 10 fans. That includes several top ones. The downside, only micro ATX and mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. I was hoping to turn my current rig into a NAS. The mobo and such parts. This won't be a option with this case. Otherwise, it gives ideas on what I'm looking for. And not. ;-) [snip] I am most likely too late but as for case I have two of these: https://www.newegg.ca/white-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2AM-030R-5 They are mesh type cases, run very cool no heat at all; planning on getting two more. Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build
On one computer I had it came with an Alien ATX case. If memory serves that one had a top fan. The only thing I didn't like about that case was not enough slots for two drive sleds in addition to the dvd burner. Only one sled could be accommodated. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if > > nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price > > of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My > > first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new > > case, or, I might build the new system in my current case. It depends > > on which case I buy. A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system. It > > would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box. My > > current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans. It > > has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air. A top fan > > really improves heat removal. After all, heat naturally rises. So any > > case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. > > > > <<>> > > > > So, anyone think they know of a case that might beat those, especially > > the Define 7, and still have a price that is reasonable? I also look at > > cooling fans. I really like how cool my current case stays. Also, I'm > > in the USA so needs to be available here. I mostly use Ebay but > > sometimes use Amazon. I've also used Newegg, Tigerdirect and a couple > > other sites as well. If you live outside the USA, brand and model will > > do and I can look it up to see if it is available here or not. > > <<>> > > Dale > > > > :-) :-) > > > A little update. I got the Fractal Design Define 7 XL in earlier > today. It is huge. Size wise, it is about like my Cooler Master > HAF-932. It's just more boxy where the Cooler Master has some angled > edges. Anyway, it is very different than any case I've ever seen on the > inside. All the panels has these little ball things that snap them in > and it feels like there may be a magnet in places but could just be the > ball things. Hard to tell. I think it will hold a lot of drives > eventually. It can be made into a super nice NAS box tho. I mean super > nice. > > The one thing I don't like. Reading the description, it makes it sound > like it comes with all the cages needed for all hard drives to be > mounted. It does not come with those. They are extra and don't always > come in a set. One part can be the cage part of it. Another part can > be the little tray that the drive actually mounts on and slides into the > cage. The cage part is about $20. Both pieces are about $35 bought > together. I'm looking on ebay at the moment. I may can get a better > deal from Fractal tho. Still, be prepared for not getting it really > complete if you plan to install lots of drives right away. > > If you don't like top mounted fans, that is a option. It has a solid > panel for the top. Me, I like top mounted fans. Heat rises, why fight > it. For that, it comes with a really nice mesh thing for the top that > looks OK. I haven't put it on yet tho. Given the number of fans, I may > try it without out the top fans. Just to see. I do kinda wish it had a > side fan but the side is all glass. > > It is pricey. Given I still have to buy the cage kits, about 4 or 5 I > think, that drives the cost up even more. Still, it is a nice case. I > just wish it came with a complete set of drive cages. > > There are quite a few pics and videos of the thing already so I'm not > going to pollute the mailing list with those. If someone wants a pic of > something, I could send it off list. Honestly tho, there are a lot > already around to search for and find. > > Oh, it is heavy. Packed up it weighs in at 42 lbs. The box might weigh > a few pounds. I'd guess, about 38 maybe 39 lbs. > > Since my water heater decided to die, that took my puter money. Gotta > build up again to buy mobo, CPU and memory. Maybe prices will drop a > little. :/ > > On video cards. I bought a 4 pack of PCIe version 2 cards. I'm pretty > sure my new mobo will be PCIe V3. I think I got that right. Will that > slower card work in there? If so, will it slow anything else down? Or > do I need to get a matched set? > > Thanks to all. This may take a little longer than planned after the > water heater failure. Dang near $600. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > >
