Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bug#354229 Disk Labels in Handbook
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Jarry gmail.com> writes: > > >> So I agree there should be at least some basic info about >> disk-labels in the handbook. > > OK guys let's all chime on on the bug with > ideas and verbiage, or we just need one > really smart admin, to post some > text and we're off to the races. > > Me, I still struggle with Disk labels > and UUIDs and such, so I'm looking for > leadership here. You know one > of those smart kids or elder (older than me) > linux gentlemen types... > > Don't be shy! > bug 354229 > > James I'm a little confused about use of the term "disk labels" in this discussion. Isn't a disk label a fs level ID (I create those when I make my fs)? Using UUID in fstab for quite awhile here (due to multiple external drives), but those aren't disk labels... are they? It seems there are two subjects here, one to address in the section of preparing disks and one for setting up fstab. Unless of course I'm missing something, which is entirely possible... -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > gmx.de> writes: > > > >> got some problems here with the Flash Player Plugin and Firefox and >> may other parts. > > Well, I was "noodling" around the net about video (VP8) and there > seems to be a war brewing. As you know, Google is has open sourced > VP8 as a replacement for H.264. It seems that the web browser > groups each pay millions of dollars per year to be able to give > away a browser that supports h.264 streaming video. > > h.264 is everywhere, cell phone apps, HDTV, utube, just to > name a few. Now Theora was based on an old codec (vp3) I believe. > Google purchased the company that developed VP8 and purports > it to replace h.264. > > > Naturally MPLA (the stinking lawyers behind h.246) is upset > because the financial rewards of the the patents behind h.264 > are worth an enormous sum of money, over the next few decades. > VP8 is not threating that. If you saw my post on Nokia and Microsoft > going down the darkside together (very strange), what I did not > say is that Balmer is pushing the bussword "EcoSystem" composed > of Xbox-live, Office and Bing. > > Google has that and more. Apple has their own "EcoSystem". > > Many Browsers will be dropping support for h.264 in the near > future, and streaming video, at least in the short run, > is now fair game and going to be not interoperable. > > Is this your problem? Maybe, maybe not. Drop back a version > and see if it fixes your problem. > > Better still, one of the young (smart) kids on this list > prolly (guesses?) knows all about this. If it is not your > problem now, it surely will be *REAL SOON*; as it will > become everybody's problem as the Economic Giants scratch > out and protect their "video EcoSystems". Stock prices > are more of a concern to these titans, than piss_ants > consumuers (that's what they ALL really see in us). So > do not be fool, Google is as big a whore as the rest, imho. > Google has well intentioned folks, but to quote an old addage > "Money talks and Bullshit walks"... > > > hth, > James IME most video on the web can be viewed with mplayer, if you can get a link to the actual file. I often download flv files and use ffmpeg to reencode them as mp4. Works even for videos that the linux flashplayer can't handle. I do wish netflix would go with something other than silverlight though, running win7 in vbox works but I shouldn't have to do all that... -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Dale wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 02/19/2011 11:08 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> I do wish netflix would go with something other than silverlight >>>>> though, running win7 in vbox works but I shouldn't have to do all >>>>> that... >>>>> >>>> >>>> Doesn't the Moonlight Firefox add-on work? >>>> >>> >>> What I've read is that moonlight doesn't handle the Netflix DRM >>> issues. Does anyone know differently? >>> >>> I'm still using a Window VM to watch Netflix. >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >>> >> >> I use Firefox and the download manager. I just download the video and watch >> it with (s)(k)(m)player locally. That also gives me the option of saving >> them locally and not having to download them again if I want to watch them >> more than once. I'm sure AT&T likes that part. >> >> So far, I have not had much trouble with doing it this way. Other than the >> video being lost when changing tabs. Well, I did have on download that >> failed and only go the first part of the video. I think my DSL modem did >> its reset thingy. It does that once a day. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> >> > > Where are you finding links on Netflix pages that allows you to start > a movie download? I'm not finding that at all using Firefox. Are you > digging into page source or something? > > - Mark Pretty sure he wasn't referring to netflix. AFAIK no-one has cracked the DRM on silverlight streams yet, and microsoft has no plans to update moonlight. Ironic that the excuse is "pirates!" -- their restrictive policy has me downloading things I wouldn't bother with otherwise, so I suspect the effect is the opposite of what they intend. Whoever thought, "if it's not available they'll just have to do without" was truly not very bright. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone get Acer laptop internal microphone working in Gentoo?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:54:38PM +, Mick wrote > >> Ah ... mine have more. in alsamixer brings up all these Capture >> devices: >> >> Front Mic 67<>67 >> Mic67<>67 >> Capture80<>80 >> Capture80<>80 >> Digital61<>61 >> Digital33<>33 >> Input So Digital Mic (other options are: Front Mic, Mic) >> Input So Digital Mic (other options are: Front Mic, Mic) >> >> There's a microphone on the top of the screen and a jack on the >> front left of the keyboard. > > Another search on Goggle finally found something, but I'm not sure I > like it. My card shows up in "lspci -v" as... > > 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) > Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0372 > Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16 > Memory at d040 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel > > alsamixer shows... > Card: HDA ATI SB > Chip: Realtek ALC272X > > One solution I've seen involves modprobing the sound driver with a > parameter. Problem is I've been using kernel-mode alsa for years and > I'm an absolute newbie on "alsa-driver". alsa-driver is keyworded > ~amd64 but I'm desparate enough to try it. Maybe even desparate enough > to try the other solution, namely revert to OSS. > > If I want to keyword alsa-driver and install it, I assume that I have > to remove all kernel support for sound, i.e in "make menuconfig"... > >< > Sound card support ---> > > Is that correct? I don't think so. One of my machines is a mac mini with the intel HDA chipset, and I don't recall right now whether it was alsa-driver, alsa-firnmware, or both but I did get it working without disabling audio in the kernel. >Also, what should I specify in ALSA_CARDS in > /etc/make.conf ? > ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Sebastian Beßler wrote: >> Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: >> >>> My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly >>> small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. >> >> Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. >> >> The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from USE-flags >> like kde (what we have shown in the other post) and probably one or >> more other USE-flags. >> >> To lower the number in emerge -e @system you have to look at your >> flags, one by one if nothing else helps. Or you could just ignore it, >> because all that is pulled in are dependencies of some sort and not in >> your @system. >> >> Greetings >> >> Sebastian Beßler >> >> > > And since I use KDE, it's not like I can disable the USE flag either. I > may be able to disable or remove some others that are not needed or > outdated but still, kde would be there. > > I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when > packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do > the same? What about other GUI's? > > If I do this: > > USE="-*" emerge -pv system > > I get this: > > Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) > > What a difference USE flags makes huh? > > Dale > >:-) :-) I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system monitoring, midnight commander or worker for file management, and you have a pretty complete desktop without need of all the bloaty k or g stuff. It's a *lot* faster that way, too. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dual Boot Partitions
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > On Sunday 27 February 2011 19:35:55 walt wrote: > >> I've used this product several times with perfect results (so far): >> >> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php >> >> Of course if you already have a working linux machine you can install >> gparted and use it that way to move, resize and create partitions. >> Very easy and almost painless. > > Gparted is indeed pretty; I use it often to get a picture of the partition > layout (I boot from System Rescue CD: http://www.sysresccd.org/). However, > it leaves partitions in the wrong order if you insert one before another. > Fdisk is ideal for fixing that: > > $ fdisk /dev/sda > x > f > w > > Job done. > > -- > Rgds > Peter I love systemrescuecd, it's saved my butt many times. Customizing it for my own use was my introduction to gentoo. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA - Still No Sound
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > --nextPart2016980.EoLg6xAmlW > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Sunday 06 March 2011 09:28:39 Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >> > On Saturday 26 February 2011 21:53:52 walt wrote: >> >> There is a very recent post from someone (Walter?) that says he got >> >> audio only after compiling all the kernel sound features as modules, >> >> but he has no idea why (nor do I) but, as no one yet has a better idea, >> >> I'd try it as an experiment. >> >=20 >> > Because alsaconf needs to probe one module at a time and set its >> > parameters. >>=20 >> Just to confuse things more, I have the same driver for my sound and I >> build everything into my kernel and always have. The sound worked as >> soon as I unmuted it. >>=20 >> root@fireball / # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep REALTEK >> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=3Dy >> root@fireball / # >>=20 >> Weird huh? > > Like you, I used to build the lot into the kernel for years and it worked=20 > fine. Suddenly it stopped. With no other discernible changes at the time = > to=20 > blame for this I raised a bug. The devs recommended that I should build al= > sa=20 > as modules and that fixed the problem. I haven't yet tried to go back to=20 > building it all in the kernel to see if it would still work. >=2D-=20 > Regards, > Mick > Same thing happened here, I used to build support for my sound card into the kernel but it stopped working a few months ago. Rebuilding the kernel without the built-in sound drivers and using the modules instead works now. ISTR that years ago it was the opposite, which is why I got in the habit of building kernels with alsa drivers built-in. The odd thing is I didn't see any news about it, nor was the internet packed with people suddenly having alsa problems, so I never knew what exactly happened. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with python-updater ?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Jacques Montier (Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:17:41 +0100): >> Hi all, >> >> I upgraded python2.6 to python2.7, >> then i run eselect python set python2.7, >> then python-updater. >> >> Here is the python-updater output : >> >> * Starting Python Updater... >> * Main active version of Python: 2.7 >> * Active version of Python 2: 2.7 >> * Active version of Python 3: 3.1 >> * Adding to list: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0 >> * Adding to list: app-emulation/virtualbox-bin:0 >> * Adding to list: app-office/libreoffice-bin:0 >> * Adding to list: dev-libs/boost:1.42 >> * check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage for >> more information.] >> * Adding to list: sys-libs/tdb:0 >> * Adding to list: x11-libs/vte:0 >> * check: manual [Added to list manually, see CHECKS in manpage for >> more information.] >> * emerge -Dv1 --keep-going app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0 >> app-emulation/virtualbox-bin:0 app-office/libreoffice-bin:0 >> dev-libs/boost:1.42 sys-libs/tdb:0 x11-libs/vte:0 >> ... >> Ok, everything emerge fine. >> >> If i run python-updater again, then i get exactly the same output as >> before (emerging emul-linux-x86-baselibs:0, BOOST:1.42, etc...) >> >> What's wrong ?? > > According to the list of checks python-updater performs it's indeed > weird that it's happening. But maybe python-updater has some > undocumented, hidden intelligence.:) If you run emerge or something > written in python, do you see (in the process > listing) /usr/bin/python2.7 being the interpreter in action? If so, try > moving away /usr/lib/python2.6 and /usr/bin/python2.6 (just moving > away, not deleting). Does still everything run? Then I believe you can > safely get rid of python 2.6 and python-updater will probably stop > trying to re-emerge everything. > > -rz Sounds like it could be the same problem I was having. Boost seems broken for me on two different systems since 1.42.0-r1, at least according to python-updater. I tried 1.42.0 and 1.45.0 as well but still had the same problem, so finally just got rid of boost. Afterward python updated to 2.7 in an orderly fashion, and once I switched from xmms2 to mpd no longer needed boost. -- "...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > > the best filesystem for you is the one you have > tested and found best suits your needs. > I agree with that part of what you said (which is why I've stuck with ext3 for so long), but the rest may have been a tad harsh. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Bill Longman wrote: >> On 03/24/2011 11:17 AM, Dale wrote: >> >>> kashani wrote: >>> On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your > backups are good and they can restore. > > Dale > Meh, boot a liveCD and fix it which took all of 15 minutes. I don't see that as a failing of LVM, but of Gentoo for lack of another culprit. You can only roll your OS forward in so many ways before you have to do a little offline plumbing. May as well complain that you had to shutdown your machine to put in more RAM. kashani >>> I researched using LVM a good while back. The reason I didn't was what >>> I posted. It is prone to problems that are difficult if not impossible >>> to correct. I may not have data that is worth much but I don't want to >>> loose it either way. >>> >>> People that have read these posts can't plead ignorance. >>> >> Yet you, who "have never used LVM" *can* plead knowledge? >> Uhsomething's really wrong in this formula. >> >> > > Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data. > > Dale > >:-) :-) You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty much every bit of software ever coded. *Lots* of people are not particularly competent and write horroe stories or bad reviews without bothering to mention the errors they made which actually caused the problem. I see evidence of that on this very list daily. So IMO your method is a bit suspect. :) -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: >> In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: >> >>> >>> Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >> You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty >> much every bit of software ever coded. *Lots* of people are not particularly >> competent and write horroe stories or bad reviews without bothering to >> mention the errors they made which actually caused the problem. >> I see evidence of that on this very list daily. So IMO your method is >> a bit suspect. :) >> >> > > The opposite can be said too. I seem to recall hal working for a lot of > people but for me, it was a miserable failure and forced me into a hard > reset. > So, if your method doesn't really work very well but you invert it and see that then it doesn't work well either that validates the original choice? :) > Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for > everyone either. If you lose data, it doesn't matter. LVM just adds > one more layer of something to go wrong. Me, I don't need the extra > risk of having a system that doesn't boot and a loss of data. I'm sure > there are a lot of people that see it the way I do too. They just don't > need the extra risk. > Using the least number of layers of abstraction you can get away with is a perfectly valid criteria. What I was pointing out was that informal polls of users with a sad story to tell is not a very effective way to conduct research. People say all kinds of things that just aren't true. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted email (gentoo-windows)
In linux.gentoo.user, James wrote: > >What I would really like is to be able to exchange encrypted mail >with any MS user What, you've never received an encrypted email from a windows user before? If you think about it, surely you have... I know ms is pretty bad about standards and interoperability, but pgp or gpg encrypted mail is relatively common on win, *nix, and os x. Pretty sure the problem you're trying to solve doesn't exist. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > --20cf3054aa33c36405049f87abd7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 28 March 2011 10:11, Mick wrote: > >> On Monday 28 March 2011 09:43:47 JM wrote: >> > to-posting? >> >> Neil meant to say "top-posting": >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >> >> and >> >> http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html >> >> (there are many links if you google about netiquette and usenet etiquette). >> >> BTW, some typos like Neil's are allowed to keep the rest of us on our toes. >> ;-) >> -- >> Regards, >> Mick >> > > lol - I'll ask google to alter gmail for me :) > It hardly matters I'm sure, since those of us who read this list on usenet with slrn can easily see the incompetent mess kmail makes of mail. Yet it's what most here seem to prefer for some weird reason. But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the "==20" crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. :) -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, Peter Humphries wrote: > On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > >> But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the >> "==20" crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. > > Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? > Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the "==20", but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but not every kmail user has the problem. It's also possible the nix-to-news gateway handles html poorly. Obviously, slrn is not supposed to handle html (which is how I like it). Overall the usenet experience of this list is poor, but of course the content is extremely useful. I just don't want all the email, because it'll end up on my phone and it'll cost me. Probably in the end I'll just end up reading it in a web browser. Lowest Common Denominator these days I guess... **sigh** -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe > wrote: >> In linux.gentoo.user, Peter Humphries wrote: >>> On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: >>> >>>> But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the >>>> "==20" crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. >>> >>> Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? >>> >> >> Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. >> Maybe it's the people who use html mail? > > The ==20 stuff is a result of quoted-printable MIME encoding. It does > not have anything to do with HTML but they can usually be found as > partners in crime... Thanks for the info. Oddly, it's mostly non-geeky folks like my Mom who send me confusing mails with weird encoding issues or html with inscrutable characters. Surprised to see it here, usenet being a text medium and all. But perhaps there are a lot of members who don't know, use, or care about nntp. And maybe the gateway is merely semi-adequate at stripping non- text. Well, it's just one of those things we have to live with, I guess, like my mother's emails with links to scam sites and explaining again and again how to use google. Such a burden, being exceptionally competent, isn't it? :) -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > >> Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. >> Maybe it's the people who use html mail? >> Neil Bothwick's posts often have the "=3D=3D20", but usually just one or >> two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of=20 >> being terribly difficult to parse. >> Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but=20 >> not every kmail user has the problem.=20 > > That's intriguing, considering it's been many years since I used > KMail. > > The =3D20 is usually caused by a quoted-printable message, meaning either > your newsreader cannot handle quoted-printable or the mail-to-news > gateway is screwing it up. > > > --=20 > Neil Bothwick > > WinErr 01C: Uncertainty error - Uncertainty may be inadequate. > > --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk2RCc4ACgkQum4al0N1GQMW0gCfUWbfcTsR0qud/emp2jPLKp+w > vTYAmgMURy8e9zJU1XSI0ZRv6Lhi7m/P > =84Zr > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I-- I see you're using claws, sorry -- guess I misremembered. You can see an "=20" though in the quote, there at your sig delimiter? It appears to replace the trailing space, so that your sig is not delimited and shows in the quote. Anyway, apologies to the kmail users. Probably the mail2news is the culprit, as I've used slrn for usenet for years and have it working extremely well on every other group. Later I'll try setting up mutt for nntp just for this one group, as it can pipe through lynx. Maybe that'll be easier to read. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
text, mime, and mail2news [was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA - Still No Sound]
In linux.gentoo.user, it is written: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --Boundary_(ID_jiktZdPjr0/tEFWOw/bFvg) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > Content-disposition: inline > > - Original Message -From=3A Mark Knecht=A0Date=3A Wednesday=2C M= > arch 30=2C 2011 9=3A52 amSubject=3A Re=3A =5Bgentoo-user=5D Re=3A ALSA=A0= > - Still No SoundTo=3A gentoo-user=40lists=2Egentoo=2EorgCc=3A dhk=A0=3E = > On Wed=2C Mar 30=2C 2011 at 2=3A37 AM=2C dhk=A0 wrote=3A=3E =3E =3E=3E =3E= > Another update=2E =A0It seem all I need to do to get sound back is run=3E= > =3E alsaconf=A0(take all the defaults) and reboot=2E =A0I=27m not sure = > why =3E it stops=3E =3E working after two or three reboots=2C but if I r= > un alsaconf=A0=3E again and=3E =3E reboot it=27s back=2E =A0It never wor= > ks right after alsaconf=2C it =3E always needs=3E =3E a reboot=2E =A0It = > would be nice if the sound state didn=27t get =3E lost=2C but at=3E =3E = > least I can get it back=2E =A0I=27d also wouldn=27t mind knowing why =3E= > it happens=2E=3E =3E=3E =3E Thanks=2C=3E =3E dhk=3E =3E Does it really = > need a reboot=2C or does (as root)=3E =3E /etc/init=2Ed/alsasound=A0rest= > art=3E =3E get it going=3F=3E =3E - Mark=3E =3EIt really needs a reboot=2E= >=A0 Bouncing alsasound doesn=27t do anything=2E=A0 Then it works for a d= > ay or two or a reboot or two and then nothing=2E=A0 Then I need to run a= > lsaconf and just hit enter for the defaults and reboot to get it back=2E= >=A0 It doesn=27t take long and I can live with it=2C but it may indicate= > something else is wrong=2Edhk > > --Boundary_(ID_jiktZdPjr0/tEFWOw/bFvg) > Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > Content-disposition: inline > >=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E- Original Message -=3Cbr=3EFrom=3A Mark Knecht=26= > nbsp=3B=3Cmarkknecht=40gmail=2Ecom=3E=3Cbr=3EDate=3A Wednesday=2C March = > 30=2C 2011 9=3A52 am=3Cbr=3ESubject=3A Re=3A =5Bgentoo-user=5D Re=3A ALS= > A=26nbsp=3B- Still No Sound=3Cbr=3ETo=3A gentoo-user=40lists=2Egentoo=2E= > org=3Cbr=3ECc=3A dhk=26nbsp=3B=3Cdhkuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E=3Cbr=3E=3Cb= > r=3E=26gt=3B On Wed=2C Mar 30=2C 2011 at 2=3A37 AM=2C dhk=26nbsp=3B=3Cdh= > kuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E wrote=3A=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Csnip=3E=3Cbr=3E=26= > gt=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Another update=2E =26nbsp=3BIt s= > eem all I need to do to get sound back is run=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B a= > lsaconf=26nbsp=3B(take all the defaults) and reboot=2E =26nbsp=3BI=27m n= > ot sure why =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B it stops=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B working a= > fter two or three reboots=2C but if I run alsaconf=26nbsp=3B=3Cbr=3E=26g= > t=3B again and=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B reboot it=27s back=2E =26nbsp=3B= > It never works right after alsaconf=2C it =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B always needs=3C= > br=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B a reboot=2E =26nbsp=3BIt would be nice if the sou= > nd state didn=27t get =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B lost=2C but at=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26= > gt=3B least I can get it back=2E =26nbsp=3BI=27d also wouldn=27t mind kn= > owing why =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B it happens=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E= >=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Thanks=2C=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B dhk=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B= > =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Does it really need a reboot=2C or does (as root)=3Cbr= >=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B /etc/init=2Ed/alsasound=26nbsp=3Brestart=3C= > br=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B get it going=3F=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26= > gt=3B - Mark=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3EIt really n= > eeds a reboot=2E=26nbsp=3B Bouncing alsasound doesn=27t do anything=2E=26= > nbsp=3B Then it works for a day or two or a reboot or two and then nothi= > ng=2E=26nbsp=3B Then I need to run =3C/snip=3E=3C/dhkuhl=40optonline=2En= > et=3E=3C/dhkuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E=3C/markknecht=40gmail=2Ecom=3Ealsac= > onf and just hit enter for the defaults and reboot to get it back=2E=26n= > bsp=3B It doesn=27t take long and I can live with it=2C but it may indic= > ate something else is wrong=2E=3Cbr=3E=3Cmarkknecht=40gmail=2Ecom=3E=3Cd= > hkuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E=3Cdhkuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E=3Csnip=3E=3Cbr=3E= > dhk=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=3C/snip=3E=3C/dhkuhl=40optonline=2Enet=3E=3C/dhkuhl=40= > optonline=2Enet=3E=3C/markknecht=40gmail=2Ecom=3E > > --Boundary_(ID_jiktZdPjr0/tEFWOw/bFvg)-- Here's a good example of the mess I was describing earlier. Doesn't appear to be using kmail thouogh. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, "this is the person I want to sit next to".
Re: text, mime, and mail2news [was: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA - Still No Sound]
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 05:10:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > The mailer is irrelevant, this is a perfectly acceptable quoted-printable > message that reads fine when sent from the list. It's clearly the > mail2news gateway that is screwing things up by ignoring the MIME > information in the mail and treating the whole thing as plain text. > I recompiled mutt with the nntp flag, re-emerged it, consulted google about muttrc and nntp, used a little foul language, and got mutt to read the usenet version of this list. It looks *way* better in mutt (via lynx for quoted printable or html). Would be nice if the mail2news gateway worked better, but this is an acceptable workaround for me. :) -- caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that "Just Works"?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Robin Atwood wrote: >I am in the market for a new laptop and would be interested if anyone >else on the list had recently bought a laptop in which all the hardware >worked out of the box with Linux. I am most concerned about >WiFi/audio/webcam, the finer points of hibernation are of lesser >concern. Currently I have a "Linux Certified" machine but I want to >avoid shipping costs to the UK. > I've always had the best luck with the hardware support for thinkpads (and dell inspirons, though they're kind of clunky and cheesy). Can't vouch for the new ones though, it's been a few years since I upgraded. -- caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:56:56PM +0800, Einux wrote:
>Here's my lspci result:
>
>{{{
>
>00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory
>Controller Hub (rev 07)
>00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI
>Express Graphics Port (rev 07)
>00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #4 (rev 03)
>00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #5 (rev 03)
>00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #6 (rev 03)
>00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2
>EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
>00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio
>Controller (rev 03)
>00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
>Port 1 (rev 03)
>00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
>Port 2 (rev 03)
>00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
>Port 3 (rev 03)
>00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
>Port 4 (rev 03)
>00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express
>Port 6 (rev 03)
>00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #1 (rev 03)
>00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #2 (rev 03)
>00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI
>Controller #3 (rev 03)
>00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2
>EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
>00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
>00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller
>(rev 03)
>00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI
>Controller (rev 03)
>00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller
>(rev 03)
>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce
>9300M GS] (rev a1)
>02:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host
>Controller
>02:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host
>Controller
>02:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller
>04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev
>01)
>07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast
>Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
>}}}
>I've only specified VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" in my make.conf.
>The problem appeared about 5 days ago, and I have been changing my
>configurations all the time. And I issued "emerge -avuDN world" every
>time after I made some changes:)
>
[note: I replied back to the list (which appears to be misconfigured today,
"reply" sends to the original sender instead of the list as normal).]
Have you rebuilt your nvidia card's x11 drivers?
--
caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: > > > >> I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like > >> mine. > > > > Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, > > even here in UK. > > On the other hand, xorg-server 1.9.5 is perfectly fine! ;-) A lot cheaper than upgrading my video card, too -- they only sell the video card I need when you buy the whole laptop! -- caveat utilitor
