Re: [gentoo-user] Which cd player plays copy-controlled cd's?

[Harald Arnesen]

Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sunday 16 July 2006 09:46, Harald Arnesen wrote:
>> > Does someone know which of the dozens of cd-players for gentoo
>> > is able to play copy-controlled cd's (the cd's that install a
>> > player first under Windows).
>> > My discman can play them, my home audioset can play them so
>> > i guess there must be a cdplayer for gentoo that can do it.
>> > Xmms and xine won't.
>>
>> cdparanoia and cdrdao can rip most of these non-CDs, so you can burn
>> working copy..
>
> Yep, just turn down, or off, the error checking (or paranoia level).
> Copy protected CDs are just CDs with errors intentionally put in. Ignore the 
> errors, get the music.

That is rarely necessary, I find that most "copy-protected" CDs can be
ripped with full error checking. Not that I have tried with that many, I
won't buy them.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which cd player plays copy-controlled cd's?

[Harald Arnesen]

Hans de Hartog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does someone know which of the dozens of cd-players for gentoo
> is able to play copy-controlled cd's (the cd's that install a
> player first under Windows).
> My discman can play them, my home audioset can play them so
> i guess there must be a cdplayer for gentoo that can do it.
> Xmms and xine won't.

cdparanoia and cdrdao can rip most of these non-CDs, so you can burn
working copy..
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Re: [gentoo-user] graphical ssh-enabled file system browser?

[Harald Arnesen]

"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


If you install FUSE and SSHFS, you can use any file browser - or even
the command line, using the normal commands (ls, cp,...)
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Re: [SPAM] - [gentoo-user] Getting BC not to truncate at the decimal point? - Bayesian Filter detected spam

[Harald Arnesen]

"Mike Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>   I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the version
> installed through portage truncates on multiplication/division.  It didn't
> used to do this 2 years ago when I was taking number theory, and there are
> no USE flags available for sys-devel/bc to change this.  From the manpage:

$ bc
bc 1.06
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'. 
101/3
33

$ bc -l
bc 1.06
Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
For details type `warranty'. 
101/3
33.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

[Harald Arnesen]

Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I
>> thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your
>> most/least favourite X terminals, and why?
>> 
>> Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before degenerating
>> into a subset of the typical KDE/GNOME flamefest ;-/
>> 
>> 
>
> xterm and screen. Who needs tabs when you have screen?

And xterm is mostly compatible with a real VT100, which other terminal
emulators usually aren't.
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Re: [gentoo-user] App/plugin to play CD?

[Harald Arnesen]

"Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> You don't need the audio-cable to hear music from a cd - just the right
>> application ;)
>
> Oh yeah, you really don`t need the cable, it just makes things easier,
> because it will work with all applications, won`t send data using the
> system bus neither process it using the CPU, the CD drive will do all
> the work and send output directly to the soundcard, the volume manager
> of the soundcard with the "CD audio" label will work and some other
> benefits.
>
> But that`s just me. I want my hardware to do the stuff it should.

With a cable, you will (at least with some/most sound cards) have a
digital-analog conversion in the drive, an analog-digital conversion in
the sound card, and another digital-analog conversion on output from the
sound card.

With digital extraction you will just have the last digital-analog
conversion. Guess what sounds best.

A third option: most drives have a digital output connector, and most
sound cards have a digital input connector.
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Re: [gentoo-user] App/plugin to play CD?

[Harald Arnesen]

Stefán István <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hétfő 08 május 2006 11.32 dátummal Walter Dnes ezt írta:
>>   I've been so used to playing mp3 files that I'm lost with real live
>> audio CDs (not a data CD with mp3 files).  The XMMS docs aren't really
>> helpful.  Do I need an additional plug-in?  mplayer is worse.
>> "mplayer /dev/cdrom" tries to play a file by that name.  I emerged
>> cdplay and "cdplay -c -v" gets the CD spinning and the output indicates
>> that it is playing, but I get no sound.  I have unmuted the CD player
>> and set its volume via alsactl.  One additional complication is that
>> there is no headphone jack near the CD tray, so I assume I have to go
>> via the soundcard.
>
> Has your CD player been connected with your sound card? If not, I think you 
> won't hear any sound.

You don't need a cable from the CD player to the sound card with xmms:

Options -> Preferences -> Audio I/O Plugins -> Audio CD Reader ->
Configure -> Output -> Read Digital CD Audio
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Re: [SPAM] - Re: [gentoo-user] App/plugin to play CD? - Bayesian Filter detected spam

[Harald Arnesen]

Mattias Merilai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>
>> Stéfan is right, you need an analog audio cable connecting your CD
>> drive to your soundcard (or, if your soundcard support it, a digital
>> one). Else the drive can't send audio to your speakers.
>
> "The other o/s" can send audio to the soundcard via the system bus.
> Anybody knows if and when is this going to happen on the good o/s too?

About 5 years ago :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best Modem for Gentoo

[Harald Arnesen]

"Michael Crute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to setup a fax server using Gentoo, I tried using an Intel
> 536ep chipset card with little success. After looking around the
> general consensus seems to be go with US Robotics. Can anyone provide
> the model and manufacture of a fax modem that is known to work with
> both Gentoo any Hylafax? Right now I am running the most recent
> gentoo-sources but I am not opposed to going back to the older 2.4
> sources. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Almost any external modem should work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso

[Harald Arnesen]

Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:14 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:00:08 -0700, Joseph wrote:
>> 
>> > If I use:
>> > dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso 
>> > I only get about 2Gb file and it stops or freezes, the disk is bout
>> > 4.3Gb
>> 
>> Is it the same size every time? Is is the same with different discs? It
>> could be a fault on the disc. I usually use "cp /dev/dvd file.iso" but dd
>> has always worked for me in the past, albeit slightly slower (even with a
>> larger block size).
>
> Yes, almost the same size.
> I know there is a file size limit on ext2 but I'm using ext3, so there
> shouldn't be a problem.
> If I try "cp /dev/hdc file.iso" I get an error:
> cp: reading "/dev/hdc' : Input/output error

Have you verified that your file system supports files larger than 2GB?
Try the following:

$ dd if=/dev/zero of=largefile bs=1M count=5000
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Re: [gentoo-user] confused about suid

[Harald Arnesen]

Robert Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to create a script so users can execute a certain command
> as root without entering a password. I thought suid was the way to do
> this, but I am not having any success.
>
> The command I want to execute as root is "echo -n mem > /sys/power/status".
>
> I created a bash script (/usr/local/bin/suspendtoram) like so:
>
> #!/bin/bash
> echo -n mem > /sys/power/status
>
> then set owner and group to root:root and made the script suid.
>
> However this doesn't work. The error message goes:
>
> /usr/local/bin/suspendtoram: line 2: /sys/power/state: Permission denied
>
>
> I am still having to "sudo echo -n mem > /sys/power/status" and then
> to enter a password. What am I doing wrong?

suid shell-scripts are not allowed, for security reasons.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Building Kernel Modules with custom kernel trees

[Harald Arnesen]

Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:00:01 +, Alex Bennee wrote:
>
>> There really is no need to force people to build as root under /usr/src
>> so is it possible to educate portage to use the uname method to
>> determine the root of the kernel tree for building kernel modules?
>
> Portage doesn't build the modules in /usr/src, but it uses
> the /usr/src/linux symlink to determine the kernel for which you wish to
> build the modules; which may not be the same as returned by uname -r.

And that is a bug, in my opinion.
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Re: [SPAM] - [gentoo-user] Re: A New Linux Way (This is a Joke, laff will ya?) - Bayesian Filter detected spam

[Harald Arnesen]

Devon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> *Dear Gentoo-User,*

This can't be the real thing. You don't write the whole post in
capital letters.
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Re: [gentoo-user] world file cheating

[Harald Arnesen]

Trenton Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just boot with a gentoo CD, tar up my entire system, and untar it on
> the new system.  If your new system boots with the gentoo CD as well,
> then you can pipe this over ssh.  Something like the following...
>
>
> cd /mnt/gentoo
> tar -cz ./ | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cd /mnt/gentoo; tar -xz'

Won't you need "tar xpz" to preserve file ownership and permissions?
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Re: [gentoo-user] VI

[Harald Arnesen]

Ivan Novick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??

There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
.
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Re: [gentoo-user] VI

[Harald Arnesen]

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ivan Novick schrieb:
>
>> Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
>
> No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux

[Harald Arnesen]

Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In theory I suppose it does.  Has anyone gotten past the fact that when
> you try to install it returns:
>
>  root $  ./install
> Log file name:/tmp/corel/Setup.log
> which: no dpkg in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin)
> which: no rpm in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin)
>
> Then exits the installation process.  I use to use Corel Photo Paint
> with my Mandrake system (RPM) based way back in the day, but since
> moving to Gentoo I can't get it running any more.

# emerge dpkg rpm
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[gentoo-user] Re: dd isos

[Harald Arnesen]

Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:36:50 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
>
>> I've read that dd actually has problems reading from cdroms and isos 
>> produced with something like dd if=/dev/cdrom of=my.iso conv=noerror 
>> would be invalid.  Can anyone confirm / deny, preferably with some sort 
>> of reference or test.
>
> I've never tried with conv=noerror, but dd has worked fine for me on
> several occasions when extracting ISO images from data CDs and DVDs.
>
> I don't use it any more because it is slow, cp and cat give the same
> result and are faster.

dd is not slower than cp/cat if you increase the block size from the
default 512 bytes.
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

[Harald Arnesen]

Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jesús García Crespo (aka Sevein) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
>> system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
>> to create a new group, "compiler", for example, where all the users
>> who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!
>>
>> Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
>> USE?
>
> What stops the user from downloading the gcc source and install it on
> her home partition?

I was a bit fast there. What i meant was:

What stops the user from downloading the gcc source to another
machine, compiling it there and installing the binary on her home
partition on your machine?
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC only for priviliged users?

[Harald Arnesen]

Jesús García Crespo (aka Sevein) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi! I thought that GCC could means a risk if all of the users of my
> system are able to run it! I talked this with a friend and he propossed
> to create a new group, "compiler", for example, where all the users
> who will be able to run gcc must belong to it!
>
> Wouldn't be interesting to implement this into Gentoo gcc ebuild as an
> USE?

What stops the user from downloading the gcc source and install it on
her home partition?
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC error

[Harald Arnesen]

赵光 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2005/11/3, Hareesh Nagarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Last night, I emerged some ATI drivers, emerged a new kernel (didn't
>> compile it though) and emerged eselect.
>>
>> Today when I compile a C++ program I get the following error:
>>
>> /usr/include/asm/errno.h:4:31: asm-generic/errno.h: No such file or directory
>>
>
> look like not install kernel correctly
> did you run
> make modules_install
> to install the headerfile of kernel

The headers in /usr/include has nothing to do with the kernel you have
installed. They are part of sys-kernel/linux-headers.

$ equery belongs /usr/include/asm-generic/errno.h
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/include/asm-generic/errno.h in *... ]
sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2 (/usr/include/asm-generic/errno.h)
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Re: [gentoo-user] ext3: 10% non-contiguous

[Harald Arnesen]

Joshua Schmidlkofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For a more sustainable situation, switch to XFS [It involved a
> backup/format/restore by whatever means you want]

And if you do, make sure you have a good UPS.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: man ksh appears not to be about the korn shell

[Harald Arnesen]

Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Not here:
>>
>> $ man ksh
>>
>> KSH(1)  
>> KSH(1)
>>
>>
>>
>> NAME
>>ksh,  rksh,  pfksh  - KornShell, a standard/restricted command and 
>> pro-
>>gramming language
>>
>
> Gack, what is the date on your man page?
>
> Here it is: 
>  ls -l /usr/share/man/man1/ksh.1.gz
>  -rw-r--r--  1 root root 42519 Mar 23  2005 \
>   /usr/share/man/man1/ksh.1.gz

$ ls -l /usr/share/man/man1/ksh.1.gz 
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 42679 May  3 16:03 /usr/share/man/man1/ksh.1.gz
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Re: [gentoo-user] man ksh appears not to be about the korn shell

[Harald Arnesen]

Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has anyone else noticed that man ksh displays a page that at least
> appears not to be about ksh93 or the newer korn shell?
>
> The first three items:
>
>   NAME
>sh,  rsh, pfsh - shell, the standard/restricted command and
>programming
>language

Not here:

$ man ksh

KSH(1)  KSH(1)



NAME
   ksh,  rksh,  pfksh  - KornShell, a standard/restricted command and pro-
   gramming language

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 and hibernate problem.

[Harald Arnesen]

Paweł Madej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hibernating and resuming works flawlessly but one thing.
> When i do:
>
> # hibernate
> i got everything stopped but there is no power off on my laptop. Thing
> is a bit weird because when i do:
> # halt it turns off power

> i also got emerged hibernate-script and under it is part of hibernate.conf:
> ### suspend2 (for Software Suspend 2)
> UseSuspend2 yes
> ## Powerdown method - 3 for suspend-to-RAM, 4 for ACPI S4 sleep, 5 for
...
> poweroff
> # PowerdownMethod 5

Try uncommenting this line.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Out of order install - grub first

[Harald Arnesen]

Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:15:56 -0700
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>From experience I don't see this as a problem but I thought I'd ask.
>> 
>> 1) I just installed Win XP
>> 
>> 2) I'm going to install Gentoo
>> 
>> 3) I plan to use grub to dual-boot
>> 
>>Any reason I cannot install grub at the start of the Gentoo install
>> process instead of at the end? This would allow me to check that
>> Windows is still booting before I spend hours building the machine up
>> with Gentoo only to run into some sort of an issue with the way I've
>> got Windows on the box.
>> 
> you'll need to get to the point where you can compile grub - ie up to
> stage 3 probably.

Not really. It can be installed from a live CD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] "Copying" between hard drives potential newbie question

[Harald Arnesen]

Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ben Blount schreef:
>> MBR is probably damaged, hence why it won't boot. I would run
>> grub-install just to be sure.
>> 
>> You could also mount your old disk and the new disk, then use
>>  cp -R /mnt/olddisk/* /mnt/newdisk/
>> (putting in the appriopriate mount locations of course)
>> 
>> Ben Blount
>> 
>
> Wouldn't rsync -a be better for this, or would cp -R preserve ownership
> and permissions as well?

cp -a would preserve all file attributes. rsync would probably be
better.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS

[Harald Arnesen]

Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I might go with ReiserFS again, because no filesystem is perfect,
> but Reiser comes very close to it despite this latest problem. I'm
> also considering JFS, but I can't find any comments about it. Has
> anyone on this list had any experience with JFS as a general-purpose
> file system, and would you recommend it over ReiserFS 3.6?

I use JFS on my laptop (it's an IBM ThinkPad, so why not use an
IBM-made file system?). It has worked great for a long time. I have
never lost a file after a crash (I use all the latest kernels, so
crashes happen sometimes).

I have lost files to ReiserFS on the same machine, but it's been a
long time since I used that fs. It could be better now.

If you want to be safe, go for ext3.
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage keywords

[Harald Arnesen]

Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Harald Arnesen schreef:
>> Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> But the
>>>2.6.12 final release is now in Portage
>> 
>> 
>> How can 2.6.12 be in portage when the latest versions on kernel.org
>> are 2.6.11.12 and 2.6.12-rc6 ?
>
> Sorry, my mistake --misread both the eix output *and* the kernel.org
> page. I'll just be quiet now 

Well, 2.6.12 is out now. Compiling it as I write. Probably not long
before it is in portage either.
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage keywords

[Harald Arnesen]

Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Martins Steinbergs schreef:
>>>ATI has a policy of not supporting -rc or
>>>unreleased/unstable kernels. 
>> 
>> 
>> i tried with vanilla 2.6.12-rc6 - no luck. fglrx wont compile.
>
> Yes, that's what I said-- ATI does not support -rc kernels. But the
> 2.6.12 final release is now in Portage, and it might compile against
> that, as the support might have been included at the last minute. I
> haven't been to the Rage3d forums to check, and I'm not yet upgrading to
> 2.6.12, so I don't know for sure.

How can 2.6.12 be in portage when the latest versions on kernel.org
are 2.6.11.12 and 2.6.12-rc6 ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

[Harald Arnesen]

Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:17:33 +0200 Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
> | journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
> | (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).
>
> If you care about your data, use ext3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATAPI burning doesn't work

[Harald Arnesen]

"W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> CD burning and linux is just not "nice" in all the years I have used
> linux - and it seems to be getting worse, not better.

I have over the years burned thousands of CDs, and got about a handful
of "coasters". Are you sure you use good quality discs and a decent
burner (Plextor, maybe some others)?
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