Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: emerge is along the same lines. make menuconfig is the limits of my expertise. I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it against a bunch of stuff I didn't have. I can take a text-only basic system, emerge gimp, and emerge will pull in and build, in the right order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc. I end up with a functional TWM desktop. emerge bbkeys emerges blackbox key-controls... after first emerging blackbox. Try doing that with RPMs. What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of my head). Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] about grub
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 07:51:10PM +0800, sain yan wrote: On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine! But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why??? The file you want is stored as: /boot/grub/grub.conf on Gentoo systems. You need to edit that file in order to make any changes and grub will read them correctly at the next reboot (you don't need to run any commands as you do with lilo). Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:07:24AM -0700, Grant wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. My personal feeling is that Gentoo has dropped off the radar a bit, and is no longer being talked about that much beyond its own community, which probably means that it won't see much growth. Ubuntu is the distribution everyone is talking about at the moment, and no doubt that will suffer the same fate in a year or so. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. The problem with that, as far as I am aware, is a lack of volunteers, although I don't remember GWNs being absent for this long before. Apparently it is coming back in July, so hopefully its absense isn't permanent. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. I don't think Gentoo is starved for contributors, at least not judging by the number of developers listed on the website (I've no idea how many of those are active though). In terms of usability features, if you want a nice easy distro that does more or less everything for you, you go for Ubuntu (or perhaps Fedora 7), not Gentoo. They're not really aimed at the same type of user - even though I run both, it's for different purposes (Gentoo for development and breaking things, Ubuntu because sometimes I just want multimedia to work without having to mess around with USE flags and trying to track down which packages I should emerge to get the right codecs for a particular format). Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. To be fair, I think Gentoo has one of the better programmes for getting active users to become developers. There's plenty of documentation on the website, plus the developer manual, although I'd personally like to see a bit more emphasis on non-coding developers (e.g. website updates, press work etc.) for those people who want to get involved but don't like fiddling with bash scripts. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Spamassassin
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:49:23PM +0530, Gentoo Voyager wrote: how do i confirm whether my spamassassin woking or no. i'm using qmail,qmail-scanner spammassassin in gentoo.. Check the headers of your incoming emails, there should be some headers there set my SpamAssassin, such as X-Spam-Score. If those aren't present, SpamAssassin isn't processing your mail. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] qmail spamming
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:32:41AM +0530, Gentoo Voyager wrote: I'm using qmail with qmail-scanner. but i'm getting lots of mails from drug sites(drug advertiesment) to my users mail boxes. i have installed the spammassin. but still I'm getting such spam mail. please help me how I'm stop this spam mails. SpamAssassin won't 'stop' spam, that's not its job. All SA does is to analyse incoming email (assuming of course that you've set things up correctly so that incoming mail is passed through SA at some point - I'm afraid I don't know how to do this with qmail as I'm a postfix man myself) and sets some headers to say whether it thinks the mail is spam or not. Unless you do something with those headers, you won't see a reduction in spam. Personally, I'd suggest processing mail through procmail after SA and adding a rule to delete (or put in a separate folder) anything which SA marks as spam. There are hundreds of tutorials on this - Googling for 'qmail spamassassin procmail' should get you started. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GUI tools for iptables?
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 06:05:14PM +0800, sain yan wrote: It`s dificulte to me for setup iptables!!! Are there any GUI tools in profiles??? There are plenty of GUIs out there - just google for 'iptables GUI' and you'll find dozens of tools to help you. However, using iptables at the command line isn't too difficult if you're only doing simple things like closing/opening ports on your machine. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
