[gentoo-user] Re: Any Flash editor with gui?

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Long
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
 A lot of Linux users don't like Flash because it is not a standard.
 When Adobe makes the player source available, I bet we will see Flash
 compilers for other platforms. :-)

 Yeah, but I think in the long run, 'not liking flash' is a 'bad thing'.
 There's a lot of good blood in the flash community that is both willing
 and able to spontaneously develop 2 things Linux users want: games and
 User Interfaces.
 
 No I'm not saying do flash.  I'm saying there's a substantial community
 base that's alienated by Linux users, and they have a lot to bring to the
 table if only there were 'liberated'.

Agreed. It's not going to happen until the standard is liberated tho, like
ECMA JavaScript or .NET (which I believe is why mono is acceptable to
gnu.org.)


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[gentoo-user] Re: [Way OT] Kernel Symlink use or not use?

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Long
Xavier Parizet wrote:
 I think that the /usr/src/linux symlink is used in Gentoo by ebuilds (as
 vmware-modules for example) that build kernel modules for specific
 hardware which aren't yet in the kernel, and so needs to know the current
 kernel config to see if it match their dependencies or requirements.
 
This is true. I have personally found however that the USE flag symlink is
annoying, since I rarely upgrade the kernel when the sources become
available. Anything that needs to know where the currently running sources
are gets tripped over if an update has changed the symlink before I've
bothered to compile the new kernel.

The real problem comes when you change the flag, and then emerge -uDN world
tries to rebuild the sources pkg with the new use flag. This was the
motivation for the no-rebuild array (nr) in this script:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-546828.html

Sorry didn't mean to get a plug in ;)


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[gentoo-user] RE: layman overlays

2007-03-23 Thread Steve Long
John covici wrote:
 checking which gecko to use... firefox
 checking for compiler -fshort-wchar option... yes
 checking whether to enable C++ RTTI... no
 checking whether we have a gtk 2 gecko build... configure: error: This
 program needs a gtk 2 gecko build

Seems to be saying ff wasn't built with gtk2 use flag (which i thought was
set by default.)

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[gentoo-user] Re: A question regarding non-Portage software...

2007-03-11 Thread Steve Long
Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov wrote:

 On 3/10/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will begin by stating my problem.  I have the source code (in
 *.tar.bz2 format) for a couple of pieces of software that are not in the
 Portage tree at all.  I would like to compile and install them in such a
 way that I can use them, and even so Portage recognizes them.
 
 You most likely want to install that software in /usr/local as per
 Gentoo's filesystem layout [1]. The way you can do that with
 autotoolized software is like this:
 
 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
 make
 make install
 
 I don't know what you mean by making Portage recognize the software
 installed this way. Do you want Portage to be able to uninstall and/or
 upgrade this software? If so, the simple answer is you it can't do
 that. You have to manage the software outside of Portage yourself.
 
That's exactly right, which is why it goes into /usr/local. You can however
notify portage that you have a certain package on your system
with /etc/portage/package.provided - I used this for that kde-env script
that was moved last year, as certain pkgs in the tree still depended on its
ebuild, but it had been moved to kde-libs (which it blocked.) I unmerged it
to get kde-libs, and put an entry in package.provided for pkgs which still
had a dependency on it. Once the tree had all been updated I deleted the
entry.

package.provided
  A list of packages (one per line) that portage should assume have been
provided. Useful for porting to non-Linux  systems. Portage will not 
attempt to update a package that is listed here unless another package
explicitly requires a version that is newer than what has been listed.

So in that sense portage will recognise the software for dependency
calculation. You should be aware of that last bit; I recommend reading man
portage for more explanation. (Oh and man -k is useful if you've not heard
of it.)

HTH,
steveL


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[gentoo-user] UK: iplayer petition

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Long
Hi,

  One for uk users or people you know in the UK, a petition to stop the BBC
only supporting windows in its new iplayer:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/

Regards,
steveL


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