Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Sunday 23 December 2007, maxim wexler wrote: I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick Mebbe I'm confusing wine with vmware. I need to run a XP-specific CAD program. So, it has to be installed in XP and XP must be installed on the first partition of the HDD, right? No, it can be installed wherever you want it to be installed, (but not sure if you can install it directly on a second drive. The catch is that it will want to be on the first drive, first partition, or otherwise will try to write its bootloader files there. If the first drive is not recognisable/writeable by XP it will have a hissy fit and will bail out. The (easy) solution is to install it on the first drive and then use partimage to create an image of it, which thereafter can be unloaded in whichever partition/drive you desire. Use Grub to chainload it accordingly. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 18:38 +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 23 December 2007, maxim wexler wrote: I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick Mebbe I'm confusing wine with vmware. I need to run a XP-specific CAD program. So, it has to be installed in XP and XP must be installed on the first partition of the HDD, right? No, it can be installed wherever you want it to be installed, (but not sure if you can install it directly on a second drive. The catch is that it will want to be on the first drive, first partition, or otherwise will try to write its bootloader files there. If the first drive is not recognisable/writeable by XP it will have a hissy fit and will bail out. The (easy) solution is to install it on the first drive and then use partimage to create an image of it, which thereafter can be unloaded in whichever partition/drive you desire. Use Grub to chainload it accordingly. sorry to jump in late, but can't you avoid all this hassle, and tell VMware to use a virtual disk? That way Winblows XP would _think_ it has the entire disk (mbr and all) but it is really just a file in some directory in linux... HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au What ever happened to happily ever after? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:13:35 +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote: You are right that XP should work - or you can install it on a virtual machine. I am not sure what advantages you get from running vmware from a partition (unless of course you also want to dual boot). I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick All wight - Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick Mebbe I'm confusing wine with vmware. I need to run a XP-specific CAD program. So, it has to be installed in XP and XP must be installed on the first partition of the HDD, right? -mw Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
Be interested to hear from anyone else this has ever happened to. Maxim Do you mean the host PC shutsdown? And by sda1, do you mean you're installing to a NTFS partition and not to a virtual hard disk? Do I understand right that the installation of XP went OK but booting fails? Or are you trying to boot an installed XP from vmware? vmware hasn't even been merged yet. _Booting_ both OSes is OK. XP fails; gentoo does not. If I'm not mistaken XP has to at least work before vmware will. Anyway, my experience with such sudden failures were usually linked to either processor heat or Power Supply being not strong enough. But it was never linked to vmware. Thierry I'm guessing it's my video card, a Radeon 9250, not playing nice w/XP. As I said earlier the only thing installed was the video drivers. Both sets of XP drivers were tried, the ones that come with XP and the ATI ones that came on a CD with the card. When _no_ video drivers are installed the PC doesn't commit suicide. When either set of available XP drivers are tried the PC randomly dies. If it's the PS surely gentoo would fail as well since I run that(with the gentoo-ATI drivers BTW) for days on end without a problem running various players, merging software, moving files etc. Too much heat? Well, it was running hot as a matter of fact earlier before XP started to tank. The CPU was covered with thick brown dust but cleaning it out didn't help. To test my theory, today I ordered an nVidia Geforce vid card off eBay. I should know in a couple weeks how accurate the diagnosis ;) -mw Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Sunday 23 December 2007, maxim wexler wrote: vmware hasn't even been merged yet. _Booting_ both OSes is OK. XP fails; gentoo does not. If I'm not mistaken XP has to at least work before vmware will. (...) I'm guessing it's my video card, a Radeon 9250 You are right that XP should work - or you can install it on a virtual machine. I am not sure what advantages you get from running vmware from a partition (unless of course you also want to dual boot). My experience with video card is: stick with Nvidia as long as AMD/ATI hasn't cured the driver problems - however this is a Linux advice! You are correct about the psu and probably right about the card. It may be a card vs board problem (I had a motherboard that just would not stand a Nvidia 6600GT, however it locked, it did not shutdown). I'm afraid I can't help more as far as Windows is concerned: the latest version I booted from HD was 3.1 and the latest I run in vmware is 2000. Good luck, Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
Hi group, Trying to set up vmware, unfortunately the PC dies suddenly after booting WinXP. XP boots OK but anywhere between a couple of seconds to about 5 mins afterwards without any warning the PC simply shuts itself off. And when it reboots it doesn't complain about a sudden shutdown, just churns merrily along for a few moments then, clunk, the PC stops cold. This is a fresh install of XP SP1 with nothing added except for the (native)9250 ATI drivers. It hasn't even been on line yet, so it's not a virus. It's on sda1, which was freshly formatted NTFS; the rest of the drive is given over to gentoo which works fine. Be interested to hear from anyone else this has ever happened to. Maxim Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Saturday 22 December 2007, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, Trying to set up vmware, unfortunately the PC dies suddenly after booting WinXP. XP boots OK but anywhere between a couple of seconds to about 5 mins afterwards without any warning the PC simply shuts itself off. And when it reboots it doesn't complain about a sudden shutdown, just churns merrily along for a few moments then, clunk, the PC stops cold. This is a fresh install of XP SP1 with nothing added except for the (native)9250 ATI drivers. It hasn't even been on line yet, so it's not a virus. It's on sda1, which was freshly formatted NTFS; the rest of the drive is given over to gentoo which works fine. Be interested to hear from anyone else this has ever happened to. Maxim Do you mean the host PC shutsdown? And by sda1, do you mean you're installing to a NTFS partition and not to a virtual hard disk? Do I understand right that the installation of XP went OK but booting fails? Or are you trying to boot an installed XP from vmware? Anyway, my experience with such sudden failures were usually linked to either processor heat or Power Supply being not strong enough. But it was never linked to vmware. Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
