Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-08 Thread Oscar Carlsson
I've been looking for something similar (using KMail), but I haven't found 
anything :-(

I'll send you an email if I found something... :-)

lördagen den 4 juni 2005 15.38 skrev Antonino Sabetta:
  Since this is known to be a Gmail feature, I would have to say that
  the answer to your question is read the list via a mail client or
  newsreader rather than via GMail.

 I almost never read this ML via Gmail, I use Thunderbird to retrieve my
 mail through pop (or whatever) but still I do not see my posts. Thank you
 anyway :) AS


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-08 Thread Antonino Sabetta
 I'm popping Gmail too, with KMail, but do see my own posts.

My fault, sorry :(
I set up a filter in Thunderbird to move every message sent by me in
the sent folder (so that when I send a msg with gmail via web, I also
have a copy of it in my sent folder locally). This obviously is not
what I wanted for the messages I send to mailing lists :)
Thanks,
  Antonino

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Antonino Sabetta schreef:
I'm popping Gmail too, with KMail, but do see my own posts.
 
 
 My fault, sorry :(
 I set up a filter in Thunderbird to move every message sent by me in
 the sent folder (so that when I send a msg with gmail via web, I also
 have a copy of it in my sent folder locally). This obviously is not
 what I wanted for the messages I send to mailing lists :)
 Thanks,
   Antonino
 

You may already know this, but you can filter the filter further :-) (I
do this, and had to kinda figure it out myself, so I figure I'll share it).

The short explanation of this example is that sometimes people mail me
off-list, but the subject line is the same as the list thread. That's
perfectly fine, but I like mail meant for me personally to be in a
separate folder than the rest of the list mail so I don't mistake
private conversations for public ones.

Obviously I couldn't filter on subject or address to accomplish this.
But messages from the list have a special header: List-Id, whereas
messages from an individual don't have that header, as it's added by the
list server.

So go to Message Filters in Thunderbird, and create a new filter (don't
forget to name it; I always do).

Select the first field, and in the drop-down menu, select Custom to
make a new filter. Type 'List-Id' in the box, and click the Add button,
then OK.

You can now select 'List-Id' as a basis to filter. If you select any
message from the list, and choose View=Headers=All and then expand the
header of the message, you will see that the List-Id header for this list is

Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org

So you can just put [List-Id] [is] [Gentoo Linux mail
gentoo-user.gentoo.org] in the three fields.

If you want to treat certain messages from the list specially, add
further filters, but don't forget to select Match all rather than
Match any. Or, if you want to do as I did, add [Subject] [contains]
[[gentoo-user]], set whatever you want to do with the message, save it,
then create another filter exactly the same except that this time set
List-Id to [is not], and of course the name and the disposition.

The result being that messages whose subject contains the string
[gentoo-user] *and* which have the List-Id go to my ML folder, whereas
messages that contain the string [gentoo-user] but do *not* contain the
List-Id go into my 'off-topic' folder. Messages that contain neither go
into my Inbox, of course, but that is as it should be, since I at least
glance at anything that winds up in my Inbox unfiltered (I've got a fair
lot of filters, both mail and junk).

Anyway, this is just one example of how cool T-bird's mail filters are.
Definitely one of it's best features if you take a little time to set it
up. You should be able to work something out so that you can have your
cake and eat it too (have a copy of your sent message and still get it
from the list). Two things that come to mind are:

1) BCC yourself rather than relying on the Sent folder (so you will get
two messages from Gmail, the BCC that you can filter into your Sent
folder, and the list post which you can filter into your List folder)

2) Set up GMail as an account and send the mail via Thunderbird;
instructions are on the GMail site, but you probably know that.

Hope this info is useful to you.
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 21:00 -0400, Antonino Sabetta wrote:
 Hi all,
 I apologize for the OT, but probably you know the answer to my question
 and will be so kind as to tell me whether is there a way to receive my posts

I think there's an option when you subscribe that stops the list from
sending you your own posts.

From the headers in messages from this list, I found
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so you could try that and see what the options are.
-- 
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-04 Thread Antonino Sabetta

Since this is known to be a Gmail feature, I would have to say that
the answer to your question is read the list via a mail client or
newsreader rather than via GMail.


I almost never read this ML via Gmail, I use Thunderbird to retrieve my mail
through pop (or whatever) but still I do not see my posts. Thank you anyway :)
AS

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-04 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Antonino Sabetta wrote:
 I almost never read this ML via Gmail, I use Thunderbird to
 retrieve my mail through pop (or whatever) but still I do not see
 my posts.

I'm popping Gmail too, with KMail, but do see my own posts.

Benno
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