[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with "-*"
On Sunday 12 March 2006 01:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > Why in (diety's) name does the the average user need apache2? Or > emboss (European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite)? After the > "ipv6" fiasco, I began USE with "-*", like so... I think we are seeing a misinterpretation/bug. Apache2 flag is supposed to make the system able to decide wether to install apache1 or apache2, not to pull it in as if it was used to choose between "I want apache" and "I don't wont it" apache2 flag description: "Chooses Apache2 support when a package supports both Apache1 and Apache2" Let me stress the fact that there are 3 apache? flags: apache apache1 apache2 Despite actual behaviour (and description) I think that logically it should work this way: * apache: "install apache webserver support when optionally provided" * apache1: "chooses apache1 version when a package can support apache1 and apache2; needs apache flag" * apache2: see above, mutatis mutandis. Let me know your opinion. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo-r7, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Fri Mar 3 22:56:17 CET 2006 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4415.87 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with "-*"
Walter Dnes waltdnes.org> writes: > The whole point behind "-*" is to prevent future "surprises". > Yesterday it was emboss and ipv6. Today it's apache2. What's next; and > when? One reason I'm using Gentoo is because I want the maximum control > over my machine that's possible without going to LFS. Starting USE with > "-*" is part of my strategy for maintaining control. Walter, You are so right, it scary. I fumbled around for a while before discovering this on my first gentoo firewall. It should be pointed out and emphasised during the installation and maintenance docs, in my opinion. Now, my firewalls work flawlessly, within the parenthetical limitations of iptables... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with "-*"
Rick van Hattem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Instead of ufed I'd recommend profuse, it has the same options as ufed and > more. Really a great tool, very easy to use and gives you a clear list of > what use flags you have enabled (I do prefer the ncurses "profuse -n" command > above gtk) Wow, it has a hefty numer of dependancies here. About 25. Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-perl/DelimMatch-1.06 USE="-minimal" 8 kB [ebuild N] perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils-1.18 USE="-minimal" 35 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-XPath-1.13 USE="-minimal" 38 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/libxml-perl-0.08 USE="-minimal" 62 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Handler-YAWriter-0.23-r1 USE="-minimal" 25 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 USE="-minimal" 7 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-SAX-0.13 USE="-minimal" 57 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Text-Iconv-1.4 USE="-minimal" 8 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Filter-BufferText-1.01 USE="-minimal" 2 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-SAX-Writer-0.44-r1 USE="-minimal" 11 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Twig-3.22 USE="nls -minimal" 280 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/libconf-0.42.10-r1 USE="python -ruby" 198 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Curses-1.13 USE="-minimal" 78 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Pod-Escapes-1.04 USE="-minimal" 9 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Pod-Simple-3.03 USE="-minimal" 247 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Test-Pod-1.22 USE="-minimal" 6 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Curses-UI-0.95 USE="-minimal" 138 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/extutils-depends-0.205 USE="-minimal" 8 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/extutils-pkgconfig-1.07 USE="-minimal" 6 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.105 USE="-minimal -xml" 222 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/gtk2-perl-1.104 USE="-minimal" 592 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/yaml-0.58 USE="-minimal -test" 87 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/module-build-0.26.11 USE="-minimal" 125 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/gtk2-fu-0.10 USE="-minimal" 20 kB [ebuild N] app-portage/profuse-0.25.3 USE="gtk ncurses" 19 kB -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
