Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.
On Sunday 05 February 2006 08:06, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.': 060205 Franta wrote: Maybe we should start a new thread/threads to stop the flame. I hope somebody would be interested in this. You've probably put everyone else off: it was not the way to get help. Gentoo is for people who want to manage their own machine(s). Many people don't want to do that everyone here would encourage them to choose another distro: eg I use Mandrake 2005 in my back-up box. I can't agree more with this sentiment. For the times when I'm not wants to configure things as much as gentoo (say, my x86 chroot) I use deb or a deb variant. Also, as others have said, there's nothing really wrong with letting your gentoo install go stale. Once you have a system set up and tweaked to where you want it, just don't touch it. I'll probably do just that for my media center box. Gentoo is about choice: it has no problems letting choose to shoot yourself in the foot (or face); it even gives you the metal ore, powder chemicals, metal-working and chemistry tools. ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 18:47 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Sunday 05 February 2006 08:06, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.': 060205 Franta wrote: Maybe we should start a new thread/threads to stop the flame. I hope somebody would be interested in this. You've probably put everyone else off: it was not the way to get help. Gentoo is for people who want to manage their own machine(s). Many people don't want to do that everyone here would encourage them to choose another distro: eg I use Mandrake 2005 in my back-up box. I can't agree more with this sentiment. For the times when I'm not wants to configure things as much as gentoo (say, my x86 chroot) I use deb or a deb variant. Also, as others have said, there's nothing really wrong with letting your gentoo install go stale. Once you have a system set up and tweaked to where you want it, just don't touch it. I'll probably do just that for my media center box. Absolutely (in case you wanted further confirmation!) I once set up a gentoo firewall / inet access / router / dhcp box for a non-profit org a few years ago. I went back in recently, and there it is in the corner, still running on the old 486. I checked the uptime and syslogs - it runs until there is a blackout, and then runs again faithfully!! I think it must still have linux-2.4.x on there... -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au About the only thing on a farm that has an easy time is the dog. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 19:26 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Harry Putnam wrote: But a sysadmin of 20 yrs will not have too much trouble getting lined out again. Must be one of thise old school Slowaris or HP-SUX admins... Yes, and AIX, Tru64,SCO and Linux and BSD of course Well, Changing the OS again would be a lot of work. A was a little angry because I've sent all the needed info in my USB/sound threads and nobody seems to know. Golden times of Slackware usage! :( There was some post wondering about how a person with skills like mine could run in trouble replacing a config file. I think the trouple comes from the fact, that I DID NOT repace it. I've reduced the troubles I have to udev right now. Everything works fine if I start the system, create the devices manually and work as usual. ... but that should not be normal behavior, should it? Maybe we should start a new thread/threads to stop the flame. I hope somebody would be interested in this. Regards Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.
Franta wrote: I've reduced the troubles I have to udev right now. Everything works fine if I start the system, create the devices manually and work as usual. Why not set RC_DEVICES to static in /etc/conf.d/rc then and be done with it? Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: So O.K.
Franta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've tried it half an hour ago with (a very old) knoppix CD. I have USB disks, I have sound, I have networking ... That said (xcuse me, I HAVE TO say that) Gentoo is far away from a distro for usage. Do not reply to this post - I'll unsubscribe immediatlely after posting and I'll go to have a lok for another distro which won't force me to fdisk for a newly install. Maybe it'll be Slack. Have fun customizing and repairing your systems. I prefer to work with it. Hey Franta, Whoa wait a minute. You do have to learn a bit about how gentoo approaches things but soon you will be running a working system and many many things are then easy and smooth. There is no need to update frequently unless you need something that has become available. The running of `emerge sync' is up to you. I've gone mnths and mnths without doing that. Admittedly, after that much time when you do update there is bound to be some hitches. But a sysadmin of 20 yrs will not have too much trouble getting lined out again. Once you learn how the portage/emerge system works. At least the basics, it is usually fairly easy to straighten stuff out and get back to work. There are several very knowledgable regular posters here who post daily about how to do such things. If you watch the list a while you will so learn many of the more complex ways to use portage/emerge. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
